Re: Skype alternatives for OpenBSD

2019-11-06 Thread Stuart Longland
On 7/11/19 4:23 am, Jan Stary wrote: > On Nov 03 11:55:21, secli...@boxdan.com wrote: >> Not sure about the original poster but I would be interested in any >> end-to-end encrypted video/audio/chat programs that are available. > > On this general purpose operating system, > the following is in a

Re: Skype alternatives for OpenBSD

2019-11-06 Thread Jan Stary
On Nov 03 11:55:21, secli...@boxdan.com wrote: > Not sure about the original poster but I would be interested in any > end-to-end encrypted video/audio/chat programs that are available. On this general purpose operating system, the following is in a base install: aucat ... | ssh user@host 'aucat

Re: Skype alternatives for OpenBSD

2019-11-04 Thread Frank Beuth
On Sun, Nov 03, 2019 at 11:12:48AM +, Andrew Luke Nesbit wrote: On 03/11/2019 10:55, Frank Beuth wrote: Not sure about the original poster but I would be interested in any end-to-end encrypted video/audio/chat programs that are available. Have a look at Tox. It might work out for you on

Re: Skype alternatives for OpenBSD

2019-11-04 Thread Stuart Longland
On 5/11/19 2:19 pm, Frank Beuth wrote: > On Sun, Nov 03, 2019 at 11:12:48AM +, Andrew Luke Nesbit wrote: >> On 03/11/2019 10:55, Frank Beuth wrote: >>> Not sure about the original poster but I would be interested in >>> any end-to-end encrypted video/audio/chat programs that are >>> available.

Re: Skype alternatives for OpenBSD

2019-11-03 Thread Jordan Geoghegan
On 2019-11-03 05:15, Stefan Sperling wrote: On Sat, Nov 02, 2019 at 02:47:16PM -0700, Jordan Geoghegan wrote: Assuming Firefox or chromium on OpenBSD has WebRTC support (havent checked in a while), talky.io should work. It's a free website that supports WebRTC chats. I've used it in the past

Re: Skype alternatives for OpenBSD

2019-11-03 Thread Stuart Longland
On 3/11/19 11:27 pm, Jonathan Drews wrote: > The woman offering the class uses Skype so I am probably going to have to use > Windows. I have a laptop with Windows 10 but I hardly ever use it. Windows is > a big step down in performance when compared to OpenBSD. > I thought Skype use

Re: Skype alternatives for OpenBSD

2019-11-03 Thread Roderick
On Sun, 3 Nov 2019, Jonathan Drews wrote: I thought Skype used a protocol that allowed other clients to connect to it then I read the Wikipedia page on Skype. The technology is owned by Microsoft. A standard is SIP. Then a solution would be something like:

Re: Skype alternatives for OpenBSD

2019-11-03 Thread Florian Viehweger
>I thought Skype used a protocol that allowed other clients to connect >to it then I read the Wikipedia page on Skype. The technology is owned >by Microsoft. Many moons ago you could at least chat with other clients, but you also had to run Skype itself. It was more or less remote controlling

Re: Skype alternatives for OpenBSD

2019-11-03 Thread 陈贤文
Dear Mr. Drews, > The woman offering the class uses Skype so I am probably going to have to use > Windows. I have a laptop with > Skype usually runs well on Linux. It may run on FreeBSD too, although I have never looked into that. One trick that I use is to run Skype on my Android phone.

Re: Skype alternatives for OpenBSD

2019-11-03 Thread Jonathan Drews
> Sent: Sunday, November 03, 2019 at 7:51 AM > From: "Stuart Longland" > To: misc@openbsd.org > Subject: Re: Skype alternatives for OpenBSD > > On 3/11/19 7:35 am, Jonathan Drews wrote: > > Is there an alternative to Skype that runs on OpenBSD? I looked in >

Re: Skype alternatives for OpenBSD

2019-11-03 Thread Stefan Sperling
On Sat, Nov 02, 2019 at 02:47:16PM -0700, Jordan Geoghegan wrote: > Assuming Firefox or chromium on OpenBSD has WebRTC support (havent checked > in a while), talky.io should work. It's a free website that supports WebRTC > chats. I've used it in the past with great success. The www/nextcloud port

Re: Skype alternatives for OpenBSD

2019-11-03 Thread Andrew Luke Nesbit
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 On 03/11/2019 10:55, Frank Beuth wrote: > Not sure about the original poster but I would be interested in > any end-to-end encrypted video/audio/chat programs that are > available. Have a look at Tox. It might work out for you on a technical

Re: Skype alternatives for OpenBSD

2019-11-03 Thread Bertalan Zoltán Péter
Frank Beuth [2019-11-03 11:55:21 +0100]: > Not sure about the original poster but I would be interested in any > end-to-end encrypted video/audio/chat programs that are available. Matrix may be interesting https://matrix.org/ It has ETE chat, but I am not sure about audio/video. It is possible

Re: Skype alternatives for OpenBSD

2019-11-03 Thread Frank Beuth
On Sun, Nov 03, 2019 at 04:51:48PM +1000, Stuart Longland wrote: Do you need any video conferencing software (i.e. the group running the online class is willing to switch to whatever you can get working?), or do you specifically need Skype? Not sure about the original poster but I would be

Re: Skype alternatives for OpenBSD

2019-11-03 Thread Stuart Longland
On 3/11/19 7:35 am, Jonathan Drews wrote: > Is there an alternative to Skype that runs on OpenBSD? I looked in > http://openports.se/ > and didn't see anything. I want to take online classes nad need a video > conferencingsoftware Do you need any video conferencing software (i.

Re: Skype alternatives for OpenBSD

2019-11-02 Thread Antoine Jacoutot
On Sat, Nov 02, 2019 at 10:35:36PM +0100, Jonathan Drews wrote: > Is there an alternative to Skype that runs on OpenBSD? I looked in > http://openports.se/ > and didn't see anything. I want to take online classes nad need a video > conferencingsoftware. --Kind regards,Jonathan It

Re: Skype alternatives for OpenBSD

2019-11-02 Thread Jordan Geoghegan
Assuming Firefox or chromium on OpenBSD has WebRTC support (havent checked in a while), talky.io should work. It's a free website that supports WebRTC chats. I've used it in the past with great success. On 2019-11-02 14:35, Jonathan Drews wrote: Is there an alternative to Skype that runs

Skype alternatives for OpenBSD

2019-11-02 Thread Jonathan Drews
Is there an alternative to Skype that runs on OpenBSD? I looked in http://openports.se/ and didn't see anything. I want to take online classes nad need a video conferencingsoftware. --Kind regards,Jonathan

Re: Skype on the OpenBSD

2007-12-07 Thread michael hamerski
Ok, fair enough. I just went through their feature list on the site, my two cents are it should be on by default. I'm not saying anything bad about it though, as I haven't used it. My point still stands though, ultimately the weakest links in any such app will probably be the username/password

Re: Skype on the OpenBSD

2007-12-07 Thread Predrag Punosevac
Siju George wrote: On Dec 2, 2007 1:39 PM, Predrag Punosevac [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dear All, I was wondering if I could get some feed back about running Skype on the OpenBSD 4.2. (i386 with the generic kernel) I read wonderful article about installation of Skype on OpenBSD http

Re: Skype on the OpenBSD

2007-12-07 Thread Siju George
On Dec 2, 2007 1:39 PM, Predrag Punosevac [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dear All, I was wondering if I could get some feed back about running Skype on the OpenBSD 4.2. (i386 with the generic kernel) I read wonderful article about installation of Skype on OpenBSD http://permalink.gmane.org

Re: Skype on the OpenBSD

2007-12-06 Thread michael hamerski
Lars NoodC)n [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://forum.skype.com/index.php?showtopic=95261 I have no intention of refueling this debate but I found this an interesting read some time ago: paper by Garfinkel http://skypetips.internetvisitation.org/files/VoIP%20and%20Skype.pdf your link

Re: Skype on the OpenBSD

2007-12-06 Thread William Graeber
I'm running wengo 2.1.2, and under the security tab on the configuration page there is an option for call encryption - WengoPhone can encrypt calls using the AES 128-bits encryption system and Diffie-Hellman for key exchange.

Re: Skype on the OpenBSD

2007-12-03 Thread Stuart Henderson
On 2007/12/02 21:22, Pau Amaro-Seoane wrote: Now that I know that there is pjsua in ports waiting for us (it's only -current), which seems to be compatible for windows and MacOSX and linux, It uses SIP, so the other party can use any SIP-compliant soft phone. sjphone is alright as a

Re: Skype on the OpenBSD

2007-12-03 Thread Stefan Wollny
-Urspr|ngliche Nachricht- Von: Daniel Ouellet [EMAIL PROTECTED] Gesendet: 02.12.07 17:15:00 An: misc@openbsd.org Betreff: Re: Skype on the OpenBSD Jonathan Schleifer wrote: David Kaye [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If you're interested in VoIP, then you might want to look

Re: Skype on the OpenBSD

2007-12-03 Thread Jonathan Schleifer
ropers [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If you chose to dig your heels in over this, you could sue the German revenue service and very likely win. AFAIK, somebody has already tried that. That's why they granted to send it in using the postal way for a few companies which meet certain conditions.

Re: Skype on the OpenBSD

2007-12-03 Thread Alexandre Ratchov
On Sun, Dec 02, 2007 at 06:35:13PM +, Jacob Meuser wrote: On Sun, Dec 02, 2007 at 06:04:50PM +0100, Daniel wrote: On Sun, 2 Dec 2007 16:48:14 + Jacob Meuser [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: VoIP applications generally require full-duplex audio operation (or two soundcards, but that

Skype on the OpenBSD

2007-12-02 Thread Predrag Punosevac
Dear All, I was wondering if I could get some feed back about running Skype on the OpenBSD 4.2. (i386 with the generic kernel) I read wonderful article about installation of Skype on OpenBSD http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.os.bsd.india/352 and I have couple of questions. I checked

Re: Skype on the OpenBSD

2007-12-02 Thread Jonathan Schleifer
Predrag Punosevac [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: When I checked the Skype website I see that the current version 1.4 is for Fedora Core 6.0 There is also Skype Static OSS. You should try static OSS. Can anyone share hers/his experience in running Skype on OpenBSD. I tried it a long time ago, when

Re: Skype on the OpenBSD

2007-12-02 Thread Lars Noodén
Predrag Punosevac wrote: I was wondering if I could get some feed back about running Skype on the OpenBSD 4.2. (i386 with the generic kernel) ... If you read up on Skype, you'll find that the theoretical shortcomings of not having the source code are more than theoretical. Here's *one

Re: Skype on the OpenBSD

2007-12-02 Thread David Kaye
Predrag Punosevac wrote: I was wondering if I could get some feed back about running Skype on the OpenBSD 4.2. (i386 with the generic kernel) I read wonderful article about installation of Skype on OpenBSD Howdy, If you're interested in VoIP, then you might want to look at wengophone

Re: Skype on the OpenBSD

2007-12-02 Thread Jonathan Schleifer
Lars NoodC)n [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://forum.skype.com/index.php?showtopic=95261 That's why you run it in a chroot (or a vm). -- Jonathan

Re: Skype on the OpenBSD

2007-12-02 Thread Jonathan Schleifer
David Kaye [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If you're interested in VoIP, then you might want to look at wengophone, ( http://www.openwengo.com ), it seems to be basically the same thing, but it's GPL'd and the linux version is kept up to date. It might be easier to get working than Skype. Please

Re: Skype on the OpenBSD

2007-12-02 Thread Jacob Yocom-Piatt
Lars NoodC)n wrote: Predrag Punosevac wrote: I was wondering if I could get some feed back about running Skype on the OpenBSD 4.2. (i386 with the generic kernel) ... If you read up on Skype, you'll find that the theoretical shortcomings of not having the source code are more than

Re: Skype on the OpenBSD

2007-12-02 Thread Robert Gilaard
--- Jacob Yocom-Piatt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Lars NoodC)n wrote: Predrag Punosevac wrote: I was wondering if I could get some feed back about running Skype on the OpenBSD 4.2. (i386 with the generic kernel) ... If you read up on Skype, you'll find that the theoretical

Re: Skype on the OpenBSD

2007-12-02 Thread Daniel Ouellet
Jonathan Schleifer wrote: David Kaye [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If you're interested in VoIP, then you might want to look at wengophone, ( http://www.openwengo.com ), it seems to be basically the same thing, but it's GPL'd and the linux version is kept up to date. It might be easier to get

Re: Skype on the OpenBSD

2007-12-02 Thread Jacob Meuser
VoIP applications generally require full-duplex audio operation (or two soundcards, but that gets icky as far as configuration goes). you'll have much more luck with full-duplex audio in -current (or when 4.3 is released). also see ports/telephony/pjsua in -current. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] SDF

Re: Skype on the OpenBSD

2007-12-02 Thread Daniel
On Sun, 2 Dec 2007 16:48:14 + Jacob Meuser [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: VoIP applications generally require full-duplex audio operation (or two soundcards, but that gets icky as far as configuration goes). you'll have much more luck with full-duplex audio in -current (or when 4.3 is

Re: Skype on the OpenBSD

2007-12-02 Thread Jacob Meuser
On Sun, Dec 02, 2007 at 08:07:35PM +0200, Lars Nood?n wrote: Twinkle might (or might not) be an option http://www.twinklephone.com/ twinkle is being worked on. hopefully it will be imported before 4.3 is cut, assuming I quit slacking (sorry brad :(). -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] SDF Public

Re: Skype on the OpenBSD

2007-12-02 Thread Lars Noodén
I'm not much for VoIP, but commented on Skype because I had been following the problems this summer. The main two strikes against Skype are its closed (BLOB) nature and its proprietary protocol. To bring up the security track record of Skype would be to just kick it while it's already down.

Re: Skype on the OpenBSD

2007-12-02 Thread Jacob Meuser
On Sun, Dec 02, 2007 at 06:04:50PM +0100, Daniel wrote: On Sun, 2 Dec 2007 16:48:14 + Jacob Meuser [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: VoIP applications generally require full-duplex audio operation (or two soundcards, but that gets icky as far as configuration goes). you'll have much more luck

Re: Skype on the OpenBSD

2007-12-02 Thread Jonathan Schleifer
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: RIPEMD160 Daniel Ouellet [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I find this to be an interesting statement here. I hope I miss understood it. You totally misunderstood it. So, you may run OpenBSD, I assume this as you are on OpenBSD list, so your

Re: Skype on the OpenBSD

2007-12-02 Thread Deanna Phillips
What other sip clients are there which will work on OpenBSD? I'm using icewm and don't consider Ekiga an option. As was mentioned earlier, pjsua, a command-line sip user agent, is in ports. It's the definition of nothing fancy, but it does demonstrate that the MI audio layer and various

Re: Skype on the OpenBSD

2007-12-02 Thread Predrag Punosevac
apologize to everyone for my first message as it seems stirred high unintended emotions. I was merely interested in the technical possibility to run the Skype on the OpenBSD box. As of this moment I do not have even a Linux emulator turned on as I have strong preference for BSD license

Re: Skype on the OpenBSD

2007-12-02 Thread Predrag Punosevac
apologize to everyone for my first message as it seems stirred high unintended emotions. I was merely interested in the technical possibility to run the Skype on the OpenBSD box. As of this moment I do not have even a Linux emulator turned on as I have strong preference for BSD license

Re: Skype on the OpenBSD

2007-12-02 Thread Lars Noodén
Predrag Punosevac wrote: ... It seems that SIP phones and in particularly Ekiga that I am the most familiar with have poor support for Windows and OS X. As most of people that I talk to (family and friends) run those operating systems it seems to me logical that I try to accommodate them ...

Re: Skype on the OpenBSD

2007-12-02 Thread ropers
[quotes rearranged (but not changed) for easier parsing] On 02/12/2007, Jonathan Schleifer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I neither use Skype, nor do I promote it. (...) Again: I never said it's ok to run it. (...) I've recommended not running it outside of a chroot. (...) I care about security

Re: Skype on the OpenBSD

2007-12-02 Thread Pau Amaro-Seoane
. I apologize to everyone for my first message as it seems stirred high unintended emotions. I was merely interested in the technical possibility to run the Skype on the OpenBSD box. As of this moment I do not have even a Linux emulator turned on as I have strong preference for BSD license

Re: Skype on the OpenBSD

2007-12-02 Thread Alexey Suslikov
Predrag Punosevac wrote: I apologize to everyone for my first message as it seems stirred high unintended emotions. I was merely interested in the technical possibility to run the Skype on the OpenBSD box. As of this moment I do not have even a Linux emulator turned on as I have strong

Re: Skype on the OpenBSD

2007-12-02 Thread Jonathan Schleifer
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: RIPEMD160 ropers [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So you DO use Skype, after all. You said above that you didn't. Which is it? No, not anymore. I used it in the past but now I use the normal telephone since I got a flatrate. Well, it's untrue that

Re: Skype on the OpenBSD

2007-12-02 Thread Pau Amaro-Seoane
Do not pretend that you have no choice. quite This is indeed the point. It's hard, it hurts, but it's the point. After one year of migration, I am now using exclusively obsd on this laptop, without any kind of blob, and all hardware is supported. I have learnt to be patient. If you support your

Re: Skype on the OpenBSD

2007-12-02 Thread Jacob Meuser
On Sun, Dec 02, 2007 at 11:05:57PM +0200, Alexey Suslikov wrote: Predrag Punosevac wrote: I apologize to everyone for my first message as it seems stirred high unintended emotions. I was merely interested in the technical possibility to run the Skype on the OpenBSD box. As of this moment

Re: Skype on the OpenBSD

2007-12-02 Thread ropers
On 02/12/2007, Jonathan Schleifer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well, it's untrue that you have a choice. For example, in Germany the tax computation program that companies need runs only on Windows and they *HAVE* to use it and to send it over the internet using it. I'm pretty sure that the state

Re: Skype on the OpenBSD

2007-12-02 Thread Douglas A. Tutty
On Mon, Dec 03, 2007 at 12:30:16AM +0100, ropers wrote: On 02/12/2007, Jonathan Schleifer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: One of my mainboards has a UniChrome Pro onboard graphics chip, and there is a fully free and open source Linux driver for that ( http://www.openchrome.org/ ) and with it,