Please ian, I'm not crititsizing you, or your poject. Perhaps this is a
bad quality, but I'm one of those people who don't like incomplete links
(and that is what is I'm crititsizing.) I expect to click on a link and
voila, there is the web page I'm looking for. Of course, I could look for
the core
> Umm, there are at least
> 24 links on that page to various projects that need done, to which are
if you don't have the time to look through a list of a couple dozen
items for the subject of what you have been criticizing, then i don't
have the time to reply to your petty, innocuous emails. i don
> refering to http://www.openbsdfoundation.org/ does not contain, as far
as
> http://www.openbsdfoundation.org/gsoc2014.html Umm, there are at least
24 links on that page to various projects that need done, to which are
you refering?
> refering to http://www.openbsdfoundation.org/ does not contain, as far as
http://www.openbsdfoundation.org/gsoc2014.html
> software that you speak of be portable to Linux or is it BSD only? I've
i am planning (post-GSOC) on writing an archlinux PKGBUILD and
eventually a debian package.
> I intend to produce the four systemd utilities as outlined on the
OpenBSD Foundation's web page, ... This seems unclear to me what you are
refering to http://www.openbsdfoundation.org/ does not contain, as far as
I could see, any software specs/ideas. And, though this sounds quite
pretty, are you
> https://uglyman.kremlin.cc/gitweb/gitweb.cgi?p=systemd-utl.git There
> is either something wrong with the web page or firefox as it mentions
> that the connection was reset while the page was loading. However,
> I've used
you probably caught me in the middle of a reboot
> yet. But I wanted to k
On 6/30/2014 19:31, frank ernest wrote:
> If I'm posting to the wrong bsd list kindly redirect me to the correct
> one, I thought misc was best. >
> https://uglyman.kremlin.cc/gitweb/gitweb.cgi?p=systemd-utl.git There is
According to the page about the project on the Google Summer of Code
2014 we
If I'm posting to the wrong bsd list kindly redirect me to the correct
one, I thought misc was best. >
https://uglyman.kremlin.cc/gitweb/gitweb.cgi?p=systemd-utl.git There is
either something wrong with the web page or firefox as it mentions that
the connection was reset while the page was loading.
previously on this list Gustav Fransson Nyvell contributed:
> UNIX is very old. Some hang on to one or two principles like they're the
> word of god. For example, in this discussion, that one tool should do
> one thing and do it well. It kind of makes you blind. Look at the bigger
> picture. Is
Ok then my counter argument will be: second of all, this is misc@
Franco Fichtner wrote:
>On 29 Jun 2014, at 13:43, Antoine Jacoutot wrote:
>
>> Why are people poluting our lists with systemd rants??? There is nothing to
>> discuss since we do not want and will never have systemd. If you don'
2014-06-29 13:40 GMT+02:00 Antoine Jacoutot :
> So first you comment on Ian's GSoC and now on systemd... thai is confusing.
> I don't care about systemd we will never have it. We just need some
> interfaces
> that are currently only implemented in systemd.
This is the right approach to the subj
On 06/29/14 13:43, Antoine Jacoutot wrote:
Why are people poluting our lists with systemd rants??? There is nothing to
discuss since we do not want and will never have systemd. If you don't
understand what the systemd-utl GSoC is about then move along.
Gustav Fransson Nyvell wrote:
On 06/
On 29 Jun 2014, at 13:43, Antoine Jacoutot wrote:
> Why are people poluting our lists with systemd rants??? There is nothing to
> discuss since we do not want and will never have systemd. If you don't
> understand what the systemd-utl GSoC is about then move along.
First of all, this is misc@.
Why are people poluting our lists with systemd rants??? There is nothing to
discuss since we do not want and will never have systemd. If you don't
understand what the systemd-utl GSoC is about then move along.
Gustav Fransson Nyvell wrote:
>On 06/29/14 13:09, bodie wrote:
>> On 29.06.2014 12:
So first you comment on Ian's GSoC and now on systemd... thai is confusing. I
don't care about systemd we will never have it. We just need some interfaces
that are currently only implemented in systemd.
Eric Furman wrote:
>My real helpful comments are that it violates every real concept of
On 06/29/14 13:09, bodie wrote:
On 29.06.2014 12:40, Eric Furman wrote:
My real helpful comments are that it violates every real concept of UNIX
Do ONE thing and do it WELL
It's because RedHat (and Oracle) doesn't care about Unix principles
(or initial ideas of Linux). They are stating it qui
On 29.06.2014 12:40, Eric Furman wrote:
My real helpful comments are that it violates every real concept of
UNIX
Do ONE thing and do it WELL
It's because RedHat (and Oracle) doesn't care about Unix principles (or
initial ideas of Linux). They are stating it quite clearly and yet
people and c
My real helpful comments are that it violates every real concept of UNIX
Do ONE thing and do it WELL
Systemd does none of these things.
On Sun, Jun 29, 2014, at 04:51 AM, Antoine Jacoutot wrote:
> > https://uglyman.kremlin.cc/gitweb/gitweb.cgi?p=systemd-utl.git;a=blob;f=scripts/gen-gdbus-interface
>If we are in such dire need of an init system replacement, why has
there not been widespread frenzy as >with schedulers, package managers,
packet filters, programming languages and so forth?
Maybe because people don't seem to think the same thing, or feel the
urgency to replace it. But a dece
> https://uglyman.kremlin.cc/gitweb/gitweb.cgi?p=systemd-utl.git;a=blob;f=scripts/gen-gdbus-interfaces.sh;h=f827434d0211ea8765c075fdb2916386ffc16ecb;hb=HEAD
>
> btw. it's bashism in a posix shell suit?
If that is all you were able to spot then move along :-)
It's very pre-alpha WIP and many thing
2014-06-29 1:05 GMT+02:00 ian kremlin :
>> that bsd is being crowded out, a thought that had not crossed my mind.
>> I wanted to know, before assuming that it is the case everywhere, do
>> people really not like systemd and is it really hurting bsd? If so,
>> I'd be interested in doing something ab
> that doesn't make the slightest sense.
>
> "pure C" can be and often is perfectly portable.
those were not the right words, i meant to convey that because systemd
uses its own DBus binding (and not an already-ported lib like
GIO/GDbus) it would be difficult to port, as that binding is seemingly
On 6/28/14, Henning Brauer wrote:
> * ian kremlin [2014-06-29 01:05]:
>> due to its unportability (as it's written in pure C)
>
> that doesn't make the slightest sense.
>
> "pure C" can be and often is perfectly portable.
i took it as sarcasim.
--patrick
* ian kremlin [2014-06-29 01:05]:
> due to its unportability (as it's written in pure C)
that doesn't make the slightest sense.
"pure C" can be and often is perfectly portable.
--
Henning Brauer, h...@bsws.de, henn...@openbsd.org
BS Web Services GmbH, http://bsws.de, Full-Service ISP
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Em 28-06-2014 20:39, Stuart Henderson escreveu:
> Even a significant number of Linux users I've talked to about it really
> don't like systemd.
Hate it. Made all my linux based systems slower.
>
> Just looking at the pid 1 part and ignoring the rest, there are way too
> many tentacles (library depe
On 28 Jun 2014, at 19:55, frank ernest wrote:
> wanted to know, before assuming that it is the case everywhere, do people
> really not like systemd and is it really hurting bsd? If so, I'd be
> interested in doing something about it. Thanks, David
A fact is that systemd slowly tears the open sou
On 2014-06-28, Kenneth Westerback wrote:
> On 28 June 2014 13:55, frank ernest wrote:
>> Hello, I'm ballsystemlord from the Opensuse forums and I've been reading
>> a lot about how systemd is unportable, even for use with some linux
>> programs and the systemd devs are not concerned about it. I,
> that bsd is being crowded out, a thought that had not crossed my mind.
> I wanted to know, before assuming that it is the case everywhere, do
> people really not like systemd and is it really hurting bsd? If so,
> I'd be interested in doing something about it. Thanks, David
yes, systemd has beco
On 28 June 2014 13:55, frank ernest wrote:
> Hello, I'm ballsystemlord from the Opensuse forums and I've been reading
> a lot about how systemd is unportable, even for use with some linux
> programs and the systemd devs are not concerned about it. I, as a single
> person, can't possibly hope to ma
Hello, I'm ballsystemlord from the Opensuse forums and I've been reading
a lot about how systemd is unportable, even for use with some linux
programs and the systemd devs are not concerned about it. I, as a single
person, can't possibly hope to maintain the old sysVinit system and also
systemd is a
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