Re: [MOPO] [FA] ULTRA Rare English One Sheet - The Third Man (1949)

Indeed, it's been a blast, it never ceases to amaze me the depth of knowledge of so many who are willing to share it too. That said, it will be good when it is all over and we can go back to the adverts. :P regards, *David Rew [mob] 0402 925 158* bidll.com

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I’d just like to say I’m impressed by the research capabilities of MOPO as a group. Fun to see folks working together on something they love. It unleashes genius. Alan Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___

Re: [MOPO] [FA] ULTRA Rare English One Sheet - The Third Man (1949)

Exactly. As has been proved in this thread, there was a public announcement when 'Lion Films International' was formed in September 1955. To me, it is entirely out of the question that this name could've been used anytime before this date. Helmut > >> I think Threadgall may just have been ge

Re: [MOPO] [FA] ULTRA Rare English One Sheet - The Third Man (1949)

Was typing mine before I read this Paul, maybe respond later, brain hurts. Sent from my iPhone > On 27 Jun 2015, at 13:50, Paul Gerrard > <0060c3f9be9c-dmarc-requ...@listserv.american.edu> wrote: > > Rich, > > With the pressbook I was thinking more of the distributor name on the > pressb

Re: [MOPO] [FA] ULTRA Rare English One Sheet - The Third Man (1949)

Neither the quad, 3-sht, domestic 1-sht or International are offset, they're hand drawn/stone litho. The disputed International is different plates to domestic 1-sht. My understanding is they reused those plates (for different posters.) So if saved (for 6+ years) what were created for originall

Re: [MOPO] [FA] ULTRA Rare English One Sheet - The Third Man (1949)

Rich, With the pressbook I was thinking more of the distributor name on the pressbook itself. Poster images may help as well, but as you say, more of a guideline, since they might not have finalised every single detail before compiling the pressbook, and it might not be an exact copy anyw

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David, just curious: At this point, do you have any doubt that this poster was printed in 1955 or later? In my view, it has been proven beyond a reasonable doubt that the production company listed on the Bidll poster did not exist before 1955. Also, back in the days, rent was cheap, but the pla

Re: [MOPO] [FA] ULTRA Rare English One Sheet - The Third Man (1949)

Well said, Helmut. Points are worth pondering. And the omitted (deleted) production /London Film Co, logo and name (the text at the top of the poster) still makes no sense, were it from the 1st release --- international / territory release or not. Questions, questions, that's for sure. Jef

Re: [MOPO] [FA] ULTRA Rare English One Sheet - The Third Man (1949)

Unfortunately I have not heard back from Greg as yet to my follow up email where I asked about the (actual) number on this poster or his opinion on the re-release question, I do not know him at all so could not be too forward in chasing him up. I did provide him with a link to the MoPo conversa

Re: [MOPO] [FA] ULTRA Rare English One Sheet - The Third Man (1949)

Indeed, Richard. As was discussed prior, the art of the bidll piece is not the same as the HA '49 copy. The are 2 different critters. On Jun 26, 2015, at 11:39 AM, Richard C Evans wrote: I'm pretty certain they didn't reuse the original plates. While obviously very similar, it's a di

Re: [MOPO] [FA] ULTRA Rare English One Sheet - The Third Man (1949)

I'm pretty certain they didn't reuse the original plates. While obviously very similar, it's a different rendering. Other than changes to text, if you look at the detail the images are illustrated differently throughout. Subtle, but the variances can't be down to differences caused by separate pri

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Did Greg give any indication of what the number might look like if it were a re-release? Would Stafford & Co issue a new one (or blank it out)? I hate to differ from Greg, as he obviously has a load of experience in this area. I bought some of my first posters from him all those years ago

Re: [MOPO] [FA] ULTRA Rare English One Sheet - The Third Man (1949)

The same number B.L. 838 can be seen on the domestic onesheet sold by Heritage. Fact remains that the distributor of the Bidll poster did not exist before 1955, so it seems that the original plates were edited and re-used for this poster. IF the Bidll poster had indeed been printed in 1949, it w

Re: [MOPO] [FA] ULTRA Rare English One Sheet - The Third Man (1949)

Davidthanks my friend...Grey is a great man I agree. We had some funny interesting times looking back! Philipp Sent from my iPhone > On Jun 24, 2015, at 11:13 PM, David Kusumoto > wrote: > > I just read the string of posts since I posted mine two days ago. Thanks for > the public commen

Re: [MOPO] [FA] ULTRA Rare English One Sheet - The Third Man (1949)

The number at the bottom of this The Third Man UK poster currently listed on BIDLL is *B.L. 838* regards, *David Rew [mob] 0402 925 158* bidll.com for serious collectors Follow

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No discounting at all... all are parts/pieces of the same puzzle. On Jun 25, 2015, at 10:49 AM, Richard C Evans wrote: You're completely discounting Greg Edwards' input based on perceived logic and patterns of behaviour? I think you'd need to explain why the number is right for first re

Re: [MOPO] [FA] ULTRA Rare English One Sheet - The Third Man (1949)

You're completely discounting Greg Edwards' input based on perceived logic and patterns of behaviour? I think you'd need to explain why the number is right for first release (even if counter to reason) when it should from your standpoint be a post 55 code. Sent from my iPhone > On 25 Jun 2015,

Re: [MOPO] [FA] ULTRA Rare English One Sheet - The Third Man (1949)

Well said, David K. As was noted prior, also,.. the missing London Films logo in the lower right corner, is also a potential real indicator/"flag" that the bidll copy is a later RR. There would be no reason to remove the logo of the production company that produced/made the film, and repl

Re: [MOPO] [FA] ULTRA Rare English One Sheet - The Third Man (1949)

Phew, the cavalry arrived. Quad is B.L. 833. I believe rather than 49, release year for Third Man was 50. BIDL looks to be B.L. (three figures). Game still on. Phew, almost waved the white flag last night after the Big Bruce email. On 25 Jun 2015, at 11:44, David Rew wrote: > Just had an em

Re: [MOPO] [FA] ULTRA Rare English One Sheet - The Third Man (1949)

.From: David RewSent: Thursday, 25 June 2015 11:45To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDUReply To: David RewSubject: Re: [MOPO] [FA] ULTRA Rare English One Sheet - The Third Man (1949

Re: [MOPO] [FA] ULTRA Rare English One Sheet - The Third Man (1949)

Just had an email back from Greg Edwards in the UK (Rare Film Posters), who I asked after a suggestion from John Reid and Vesna (from the thread on Vintage Movie Posters Forum ) - I told him the queries

Re: [MOPO] [FA] ULTRA Rare English One Sheet - The Third Man (1949)

I just read the string of posts since I posted mine two days ago. Thanks for the public comments from Jeff Potokar and Phillipp Kainbacher - (and from Bruce H. via Jeff) - and from others who privately wrote me about this. And Phillipp, congratulations for getting a happy reso

Re: [MOPO] [FA] ULTRA Rare English One Sheet - The Third Man (1949)

I wrote to Bruce to ask his thoughts on this poster and discussion. He wrote me back and also said I could post his reply to MOPO: Jeff "I personally think it is very likely that it is from 1955 or so. Here is why: IMDb only lists a handful of films from Lion International. But because w

Re: [MOPO] [FA] ULTRA Rare English One Sheet - The Third Man (1949)

It’s in Ed Harris’ Britain’s Forgotten Film Factory: The Story Of Isleworth Studios. 2012. And also Derek Threadgall’s 1994 British Film Institute publication, Shepperton studios: an independent view. Which Ed Harris may have got it from. Just spotted, thanks to that humongous Third Man quad

Re: [MOPO] [FA] ULTRA Rare English One Sheet - The Third Man (1949)

I don't know, is the original UK release easily obtainable? HA is the only one on record who has sold the original back in 2006 for US$5,750 in comparison the BIDLL one has a starting bid of just USD$2,750 David Tommy Barr wrote on 24/06/2015 12:32

Re: [MOPO] [FA] ULTRA Rare English One Sheet - The Third Man (1949)

Under London Films International for the 1st release (an offshoot of London Films who owned British Lion), according to the Sydney Herald article that David posted. I originally had the same sort of doubts as you, and that’s why I researched backwards to try and find if the Lion Internat

Re: [MOPO] [FA] ULTRA Rare English One Sheet - The Third Man (1949)

That’s why I think the Lion International is relevant, but not as relevant as the absence of the London Film logo. To use another rule that is not applicable all of the time: on original release the info of the production company is always there, while on rereleases the distributor info is alway

Re: [MOPO] [FA] ULTRA Rare English One Sheet - The Third Man (1949)

Richard, THE THIRD MAN was originally released in Germany by 'Deutsche London Film' in 1950. The first re-release must've been around 1956, and the poster still shows this company as distributor. By the end of 1956, they either changed names or went out of business. It would make sense that al

Re: [MOPO] [FA] ULTRA Rare English One Sheet - The Third Man (1949)

And shot thru some nice, soft diffusion, too. :) On Jun 23, 2015, at 5:46 AM, allen day wrote: Now ... this is what I refer to as a "hi-res' pic of a poster. ad On Tue, Jun 23, 2015 at 5:58 AM, David Rew wrote: Just wanted to offer this follow-up. As you know I had written to Mr Peter Sn

Re: [MOPO] [FA] ULTRA Rare English One Sheet - The Third Man (1949)

According to chap at Canal relating to Third Man, "British Lion distributed internationally." (Under what name?) And accounts of Woolf's IFD have them utilising Lion International from 1950. Since Lion didn't distribute in the USA prior to 55, then presumably, once they started to in 55 after

Re: [MOPO] [FA] ULTRA Rare English One Sheet - The Third Man (1949)

All this has been very interesting, but I wonder how it affects the question of value. In general, however, is a rare re-release poster worth more than an original release poster which is fairly easily obtainable? Tommy On Tue, Jun 23, 2015 at 2:56 PM, Helmut Hamm wrote: > I must admit that I h

Re: [MOPO] [FA] ULTRA Rare English One Sheet - The Third Man (1949)

I must admit that I have somewhat lost track about the back and forth around this poster. However, the information that Paul has dug up can hardly be contradicted: http://www.archive.org/stream/motionpicturedai78unse#page/n481/mode/2up/search/%27lion+international+films%27 Motion Picture Daily

Re: [MOPO] [FA] ULTRA Rare English One Sheet - The Third Man (1949)

Now ... this is what I refer to as a "hi-res' pic of a poster. ad On Tue, Jun 23, 2015 at 5:58 AM, David Rew wrote: > Just wanted to offer this follow-up. > > As you know I had written to Mr Peter Snell owner of CEO of British Lion > Film in the hope he might be able to help with the puzzle of

Re: [MOPO] [FA] ULTRA Rare English One Sheet - The Third Man (1949)

It's really good of them to reply so quickly. However, I should point out that the 1st image you attached is not a quad, but (most of) a first release US Half Sheet style B. The 2nd image is a really nice one of the original quad though. Paul _www.movieposterstudio.com_ (http://www.moviepost

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Just wanted to offer this follow-up. As you know I had written to Mr Peter Snell owner of CEO of British Lion Film in the hope he might be able to help with the puzzle of the poster. Although he did not respond directly to me he did kindly pass on my email to Studio Canal to respond. For those

Re: [MOPO] [FA] ULTRA Rare English One Sheet - The Third Man (1949)

Hi All Well as you know our NZ based collector and seller of this rare poster on BIDLL has been following the conversations on MoPo with much interest, and although he did not ask me to pass on this message I felt I would let you know that he said: /

Re: [MOPO] [FA] ULTRA Rare English One Sheet - The Third Man (1949)

Good Morning all! Once again my beauty sleep has worked wonders for my skin, the wrinkles have fallen to one side, which has made me a little blind in one eye as I see I have a lot of reading. Well if nothing else I have enjoyed the hunt and the excellent resources that have been used and po

Re: [MOPO] [FA] ULTRA Rare English One Sheet - The Third Man (1949)

Rich, Without looking at these in detail, you also have to take domestic distributors into account. For example, British Lion distributed Third Man and Fallen Idol (produced by London Films) domestically, hence Lion logo on quads. It's all very complicated when British Lion are owned by Lond

Re: [MOPO] [FA] ULTRA Rare English One Sheet - The Third Man (1949)

Sure there's room for margin/error there, but then again the London Film logo is on the "one vetted original British onseheet". Op 22 jun 2015, om 15:30 heeft Richard C Evans het volgende geschreven: Think this is a lesson for not putting too much faith in the logic of what's printed on poste

Re: [MOPO] [FA] ULTRA Rare English One Sheet - The Third Man (1949)

As i noted earlier about the start of Lion International: You can find it here: http://www.screenonline.org.uk/film/id/457344/ and here https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_Lion_Films. Granted it does not say that Lion Internantional Flms started then, but it's clear that the receivershi

Re: [MOPO] [FA] ULTRA Rare English One Sheet - The Third Man (1949)

That is why I think it is telling that the London Film logo, basically Alexander Korda's signature, is not on the poster in question whilst it is on the few posters I resarched up and until Korda's last production Richard III. I must admit though that the info on the several depots of Staff

Re: [MOPO] [FA] ULTRA Rare English One Sheet - The Third Man (1949)

Think this is a lesson for not putting too much faith in the logic of what's printed on posters. Quads for Third Man, Fallen Idol, and Small Back Room, have London and Lion logos. Lion logo not on Third Man 1 and 3 sheet. Likewise, Fallen Idol 1-sheet, 6 sheet just the London Films logo. Tale

Re: [MOPO] [FA] ULTRA Rare English One Sheet - The Third Man (1949)

If this is accurate then IFD (Independent Film Distributors) was using Lion International from 1950. (IFD apparently existed 50-59.) https://books.google.co.uk/books?id=E1ioAwAAQBAJ&pg=PP174&lpg=PP174&dq=ifd+woolf&source=bl&ots=ehI2myI7tF&sig=oCAsIlRVdncbJvlm8vm6HtXz4og&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0CCMQ6AEwAm

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David, It appears Lion International was indeed created in 1955, just after the old British Lion collapsed with Korda’s London Films and was resurrected under new ownership. Some brief columns in the Sept 21, Nov 15 and Dec 2 editions of Motion Picture Daily 1955 describe the set-up of the

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was released in Australia March 1950. OK the poster is in New Zealand but I think with that sort of info that sways me into thinking that way. Simon Sent from my BlackBerry 10 smartphone. *From: *Richard C Evans *Sent: *Saturday, 20 June 2015 18:06 *To: *MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU <ma

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mon Sent from my BlackBerry 10 smartphone. From: Richard C Evans Sent: Saturday, 20 June 2015 18:06 To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Reply To: evan...@mac.com Subject: Re: [MOPO] [FA] ULTRA Rare English One Sheet - The Third Man (1949) The unfavourable scenario (presumably no one is thinking

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that way. Simon Sent from my BlackBerry 10 smartphone. *From: *Richard C Evans *Sent: *Saturday, 20 June 2015 18:06 *To: *MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU <mailto:MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU> *Reply To: *evan...@mac.com <mailto:evan...@mac.com> *Subject: *Re: [MOPO] [FA] ULTRA Ra

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y. Simon Sent from my BlackBerry 10 smartphone. From: Richard C Evans Sent: Saturday, 20 June 2015 18:06 To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Reply To: evan...@mac.com Subject: Re: [MOPO] [FA] ULTRA Rare English One Sheet - The Third Man (1949) The unfavourable scenario (presumably no one is th

Re: [MOPO] [FA] ULTRA Rare English One Sheet - The Third Man (1949)

>> more details on the release schedule, probably not though. >>>>>> >>>>>> Looking at the re-release posters on Heritage and emovie I�m wondering >>>>>> how sure are we that those are not international releases and the Biddl >>>

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ort of info that sways me into thinking that way. Simon Sent from my BlackBerry 10 smartphone. *From: *Richard C Evans *Sent: *Saturday, 20 June 2015 18:06 *To: *MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU *Reply To: *evan...@mac.com *Subject: *Re: [MOPO] [FA] ULTRA Rare English One Sheet - The Third Man (1949

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ort of info that sways me into thinking that way. Simon Sent from my BlackBerry 10 smartphone. From: Richard C Evans Sent: Saturday, 20 June 2015 18:06 To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Reply To: evan...@mac.com Subject: Re: [MOPO] [FA] ULTRA Rare English One Sheet - The Third Man (194

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smartphone. From: Richard C Evans Sent: Saturday, 20 June 2015 18:06 To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Reply To: evan...@mac.com Subject: Re: [MOPO] [FA] ULTRA Rare English One Sheet - The Third Man (1949) The unfavourable scenario (presumably no one is thinking fake), is that it could be an I

Re: [MOPO] [FA] ULTRA Rare English One Sheet - The Third Man (1949)

18:06 *To: *MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU <mailto:MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU> *Reply To: *evan...@mac.com <mailto:evan...@mac.com> *Subject: *Re: [MOPO] [FA] ULTRA Rare English One Sheet - The Third Man (1949) The unfavourable scenario (presumably no one is thinking fake), is th

Re: [MOPO] [FA] ULTRA Rare English One Sheet - The Third Man (1949)

I wrote to one of the people I know at the BFI a day or so ago asking if they could help shed some light, I am waiting to hear back - as an aside, they own a Quad for the film, not a UK1SH I also wrote to Peter Snell, CEO of British Lion (yes, I used Google to find him/the company) but sad

Re: [MOPO] [FA] ULTRA Rare English One Sheet - The Third Man (1949)

e: [MOPO] [FA] ULTRA Rare English One Sheet - The Third Man (1949) The unfavourable scenario (presumably no one is thinking fake), is that it could be an International RR? (Prior to that horrible "RR" which is based on it. I think based on the actual printed poster, and no c

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and but I think with that sort of info that sways me into >>> thinking that way. >>> >>> Simon >>> >>> Sent from my BlackBerry 10 smartphone. >>> From: Richard C Evans >>> Sent: Saturday, 20 June 2015 18:06 >>> To: MoPo-L@L

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t sways me into thinking that way. Simon Sent from my BlackBerry 10 smartphone. From: Richard C Evans Sent: Saturday, 20 June 2015 18:06 To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Reply To: evan...@mac.com Subject: Re: [MOPO] [FA] ULTRA Rare English One Sheet - The Third Man (1949) The unfavourable scenario

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Entirely possible Wim. It’s just another conjecture. Personally though I’d lay more money out for the one that appeared at HA. Simon From: Wim Jansen Sent: Saturday, June 20, 2015 7:04 PM To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Subject: Re: [MOPO] [FA] ULTRA Rare English One Sheet - The Third Man

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hat sort of info that sways me into thinking > that way. > > Simon > > Sent from my BlackBerry 10 smartphone. > From: Richard C Evans > Sent: Saturday, 20 June 2015 18:06 > To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU > Reply To: evan...@mac.com > Subject: Re: [MOPO] [FA]

Re: [MOPO] [FA] ULTRA Rare English One Sheet - The Third Man (1949)

Seems very sound, based on that information (if the wiki info is correct, that is). And as mentioned before.. why would a second plate/ art be done for an international release OS? The art is very similar to the HA copy, but it is NOT the same. Why go to that added creative "trouble" and add

Re: [MOPO] [FA] ULTRA Rare English One Sheet - The Third Man (1949)

[FA] ULTRA Rare English One Sheet - The Third Man (1949)The unfavourable scenario (presumably no one is thinking fake), is that it could be an International RR? (Prior to that horrible "RR" which is based on it. I think based on the actual printed poster, and no connection to original plates

Re: [MOPO] [FA] ULTRA Rare English One Sheet - The Third Man (1949)

As London Films went bust in 1955 and Lion International Films was set up as a distribution company in January 1955 (surely wikipedia is right on this one) I am sorry to say it’s almost sure to be a re-release. Why should London Films take off their logo for an international issue? Or are there

Re: [MOPO] [FA] ULTRA Rare English One Sheet - The Third Man (1949)

The unfavourable scenario (presumably no one is thinking fake), is that it could be an International RR? (Prior to that horrible "RR" which is based on it. I think based on the actual printed poster, and no connection to original plates.) Would they bother doing it for International RR? Especi

Re: [MOPO] [FA] ULTRA Rare English One Sheet - The Third Man (1949)

Just my silly joke. Yes, you're right there's a lot of information out there - perhaps too much sometimes - it's just the tracking down, the collating, and filtering out the misinformation. Not always easy - especially with the speed of my broadband connection! Paul In a message dated

Re: [MOPO] [FA] ULTRA Rare English One Sheet - The Third Man (1949)

True, but information like this proves to be so important. And there so much more info on lots of older stuff available. By the way wikipedia states that a controlling share of British Lion was bought in 1946 by London Films. Then in 1955 LF went into receivership and British Lion Films Lt.d sta

Re: [MOPO] [FA] ULTRA Rare English One Sheet - The Third Man (1949)

Unfortunately the internet wasn't around in the 1940s ;) Paul _www.movieposterstudio.com_ (http://www.movieposterstudio.com) In a message dated 20/06/2015 16:52:33 GMT Daylight Time, w...@bqjansen.demon.nl writes: That's so odd, isn't it? With all the internetsites available, we can't

Re: [MOPO] [FA] ULTRA Rare English One Sheet - The Third Man (1949)

What about the British Film Institute - worth a call to them don’t you think - given their trade papers, info and resources. Alan Please Visit Our New Website: WWW.MUSEUMOFMOMANDPOPCULTURE.COM And Our Ebay Store: http://stores.ebay.com/Museum-Store-Gifts > On Jun 20, 2015, at 8:52 A

Re: [MOPO] [FA] ULTRA Rare English One Sheet - The Third Man (1949)

That's so odd, isn't it? With all the internetsites available, we can't say categorically when a subsidiary of an important company started. Wim Op 20 jun 2015, om 17:40 heeft Paul Gerrard het volgende geschreven: > Different companies! Eagle-Lion was Rank as you correctly say; but Lion > Inter

Re: [MOPO] [FA] ULTRA Rare English One Sheet - The Third Man (1949)

Different companies! Eagle-Lion was Rank as you correctly say; but Lion International was part of London Films/British Lion. It's just that we can't be 100% sure when Lion International started... Paul _www.movieposterstudio.com_ (http://www.movieposterstudio.com) In a message dated

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Helmut, Not sure what you intended with this follow-up message, but just to avoid confusion: You're right that British Lion Films Ltd was (re-)created in 1955 as a new limited company when Korda went bust, but as you said in your previous message British Lion as a company existed long be

Re: [MOPO] [FA] ULTRA Rare English One Sheet - The Third Man (1949)

Agree with Helmut, think there's nothing to worry about with this. Sent from my iPhone > On 20 Jun 2015, at 13:51, Helmut Hamm wrote: > > Anyone can see that the poster listed on Bidll is not the same poster sold > through Heritage. Aside from the difference in the image, the Heritage poster

Re: [MOPO] [FA] ULTRA Rare English One Sheet - The Third Man (1949)

] ULTRA Rare English One Sheet - The Third Man (1949) Thanks Paul Some incredibly valuable insight I appreciate you sharing, I've learned something. So, essentially the dig is on to find out about Lion International. Hopefully Richard Evans can share more, unless the send button on his phon

Re: [MOPO] [FA] ULTRA Rare English One Sheet - The Third Man (1949)

Apparently, British Lion Films Ltd. was formed in January 1955, after the owners of London Films encountered some financial troubles. I believe that 'Lion International Films' as a division of London Films existed before that. Helmut > >> The only slight question mark in my mind is whether Li

Re: [MOPO] [FA] ULTRA Rare English One Sheet - The Third Man (1949)

Anyone can see that the poster listed on Bidll is not the same poster sold through Heritage. Aside from the difference in the image, the Heritage poster has a British censor stamp, so it was quite obviously used in Britain. As a general rule, the British onesheet was used for export use only. N

Re: [MOPO] [FA] ULTRA Rare English One Sheet - The Third Man (1949)

Seems you are good with Google and/or wikipedia. Congrats. :) On Jun 19, 2015, at 11:57 PM, David wrote: Being printed in England is a clue as to what country (the poster was for)...how do you figure that? Here is the list of British Colonies in 1949, let me know what country the poster

Re: [MOPO] [FA] ULTRA Rare English One Sheet - The Third Man (1949)

And it's missing both the London Films logo, lower right, and top text as well. On Jun 20, 2015, at 12:05 AM, David wrote: AND if you look very very carefully you can see it is quite obvious the poster was printed for use in the film itself... Jeff Potokar wrote on 20/06/2015 4:47 P

Re: [MOPO] [FA] ULTRA Rare English One Sheet - The Third Man (1949)

AND if you look very very carefully you can see it is quite obvious the poster was printed for use in the film itself... Jeff Potokar wrote on 20/06/2015 4:47 PM: It being printed in England should be some clue as to what country it was for... to some degree, anyhow. And there are many ar

Re: [MOPO] [FA] ULTRA Rare English One Sheet - The Third Man (1949)

AND if you look very very carefully you can see it is quite obvious the poster was printed for use in the film itself... Jeff Potokar wrote on 20/06/2015 4:47 PM: It being printed in England should be some clue as to what country it was for... to some degree, anyhow. And there are many ar

Re: [MOPO] [FA] ULTRA Rare English One Sheet - The Third Man (1949)

Being printed in England is a clue as to what country (the poster was for)...how do you figure that? Here is the list of British Colonies in 1949, let me know what country the poster was printed for...take your time. ;) Aden Colony Antigua (and Barbuda) Ashanti Bahamas Barbados Basutoland Beli

Re: [MOPO] [FA] ULTRA Rare English One Sheet - The Third Man (1949)

It being printed in England should be some clue as to what country it was for... to some degree, anyhow. And there are many artistic and textual (wording) variations with this copy. Many. Let alone the missing London Films logo in the lower right corner. That, to me, is also key. Put it

Re: [MOPO] [FA] ULTRA Rare English One Sheet - The Third Man (1949)

I guess based on what has Paul said, it seems the the poster is most likely to be from a print run for the foreign market rather than a print run for the local (UK market) which is what the HA one appears to be; this in itself would explain some of the minor variations, yet it still holds some

Re: [MOPO] [FA] ULTRA Rare English One Sheet - The Third Man (1949)

Sure thing, Dave. Better to err on the side of caution, when this kind of asking price is involved. All may not be as it seems. Jeff On Jun 19, 2015, at 1:32 PM, David Rew wrote: The point about more research should have been done - I'll let the seller know, or feel free to log on to

Re: [MOPO] [FA] ULTRA Rare English One Sheet - The Third Man (1949)

Thanks Paul Some incredibly valuable insight I appreciate you sharing, I've learned something. So, essentially the dig is on to find out about Lion International. Hopefully Richard Evans can share more, unless the send button on his phone get in the way again. ;) cheers David speedys...@

Re: [MOPO] [FA] ULTRA Rare English One Sheet - The Third Man (1949)

The point about more research should have been done - I'll let the seller know, or feel free to log on to BIDLL and drop the seller a note just as you would on eBay, the seller would appreciate the advice. regards, *David Rew [mob] 0402 925 158* bidll.com

Re: [MOPO] [FA] ULTRA Rare English One Sheet - The Third Man (1949)

* The bidll copy also has the same text at the top (as the 50RR), wherein "A LONDON FILMS PRODUCTION" has been omitted before Korda and Selznick's name. * The bidll copy is missing the London Films logo in the lower right (as is also missing from the 50s RR). * "Distributed by Lion Intern

Re: [MOPO] [FA] ULTRA Rare English One Sheet - The Third Man (1949)

Hi David, This actually popped up in a previous thread several years ago: _http://www.mail-archive.com/mopo-l%40listserv.american.edu/msg29685.html_ (http://www.mail-archive.com/mopo-l@listserv.american.edu/msg29685.html) Like Rich Evans said, on face value the version with the A rating – w

Re: [MOPO] [FA] ULTRA Rare English One Sheet - The Third Man (1949)

I guess the question for someone more knowledgeable on the Brit stuff is why is there (on the HA '49) a British Censor's stamp on a poster that was never designed to be used in the UK - as I understand it 1shts and 3shts were printed for the colonies not used in the UK, so no reason to print U

Re: [MOPO] [FA] ULTRA Rare English One Sheet - The Third Man (1949)

Geez fellas ... looks like a hybrid (in a 10 second comparison). Logos at bottom left / right on HA's '49 example are on neither of the other examples, however, the overall colors appear similar to bidll example and HA '49. ad On Fri, Jun 19, 2015 at 3:45 AM, David wrote: > Looks nothing li

Re: [MOPO] [FA] ULTRA Rare English One Sheet - The Third Man (1949)

0 +1000 From: shadow@gmail.com Subject: Re: [MOPO] [FA] ULTRA Rare English One Sheet - The Third Man (1949) To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Looks nothing like the 50s re-release here: http://movieposters.ha.com/itm/film-noir/the-third-man-selznick-r-1950s-british-one-sheet-27-x-40-/a/693-

Re: [MOPO] [FA] ULTRA Rare English One Sheet - The Third Man (1949)

Looks nothing like the 50s re-release here: http://movieposters.ha.com/itm/film-noir/the-third-man-selznick-r-1950s-british-one-sheet-27-x-40-/a/693-64326.s Looks like this here: http://movieposters.ha.com/itm/film-noir/the-third-man-london-films-1949-british-one-sheet-27-x-40-here-is-a-real-ra

Re: [MOPO] [FA] ULTRA Rare English One Sheet - The Third Man (1949)

Isn't this the early 1950's re-release? I thought the original release had a black background and also had more color. I know the last time Heritage sold this poster which was five years ago, they listed it as an early 1950's re-release and it sold for $900. Todd Feiertag Date: Fri, 19 Jun 20