Jay Garcia [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On 03/11/2002 3:30 PM, Erik Corry wrote:
Christian Biesinger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Jay Garcia wrote:
Also, according to your're explanation, if we list groups from our ISP,
then these very same groups should appear. They don't ... Why not? It's
usenet
On 03/12/2002 5:23 AM, Erik Corry wrote:
Yes, thanks for the confirmation.
There was no confirmation that I was aware of. I don't think you
understood what I wrote.
I understood exactly what you wrote. You are reading this group from
your ISP's news feed or other feed OTHER than logging
On 03/12/2002 7:35 AM, Jay Garcia wrote:
I'll reply to this reply using COX's feed and we'll see what's different
in the header info. I'm curious as well.
The reply I mentioned was done at approximately 7:37 CST on the COX group.
Still waiting to see it here at 7:50 am CST which should prove
On 03/12/2002 7:52 AM, Jay Garcia wrote:
This reply should be seen immediately upon refreshing the group while
logged in to THE server.
It is, as witnessed by the posted time of this reply.
--
Jay Garcia - Netscape Champion
Novell MCNE-5/CNI-Networking Technologies-OSI
UFAQ -
Bamm Gabriana wrote:
Having to register it? That is a big issue
You don't have to register it.
He's right on this one. I tried to install Netscape 6.2.1 on my
friend's new computer. Netscape will not open the first time
until you sign up with a Netcenter account. But my friend
could not
Bamm Gabriana wrote:
sorry, that was kinda harsh.. I meant to just say that you dont have to
go around removing code like a Hack when you can just hit the cancel
buttons to get out of activation..
Try installing Netscape 6 in a computer without an internet connection
like I did in my
dman84 wrote:
Peter Lairo wrote:
Christian Biesinger wrote:
I said you need not register it. The following page describes how to
get rid of the Activation Screen.
http://www.hmetzger.de/net6e.html#4
The activation occurrs *during* the installation. How do you delete
On 03/11/2002 12:39 AM, Bamm Gabriana wrote:
I AM fully aware of how all this works. Kyle is confused by SERVER and
SERVER SOFTWARE !!
No, he is confused between hosting a newsgroup
and carrying the newsgroup.
Jay, I hope you cool down. You are a highly intellectual
person but your
dman84 wrote:
sorry, that was kinda harsh.. I meant to just say that you dont have to
go around removing code like a Hack when you can just hit the cancel
buttons to get out of activation..
Last time I checked, this was not possible.
--
They that can give up essential liberty to obtain
Jay Garcia [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
My statement/reply was in reference to the physical location of the
server that hosts these groups. It's in Mountain View California and
this SERVER feeds usenet.
A newsgroup isn't hosted on a specific host.
A mail-to-news gateway may be, but that is a
sorry, that was kinda harsh.. I meant to just say that you dont have to
go around removing code like a Hack when you can just hit the cancel
buttons to get out of activation..
Try installing Netscape 6 in a computer without an internet connection
like I did in my friend's computer (in
On 03/11/2002 8:39 AM, Erik Corry wrote:
Jay Garcia [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
My statement/reply was in reference to the physical location of the
server that hosts these groups. It's in Mountain View California and
this SERVER feeds usenet.
A newsgroup isn't hosted on a specific host.
It
Jay Garcia wrote:
Also, according to your're explanation, if we list groups from our ISP,
then these very same groups should appear. They don't ... Why not? It's
usenet isn't it?
If you are talking about netscape.public.mozilla.* when you say the
very same groups, I can confirm that my
Christian Biesinger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Jay Garcia wrote:
Also, according to your're explanation, if we list groups from our ISP,
then these very same groups should appear. They don't ... Why not? It's
usenet isn't it?
Probably your ISP doesn't carry the netscape.* groups. I'm sure
On 03/11/2002 3:30 PM, Erik Corry wrote:
Christian Biesinger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Jay Garcia wrote:
Also, according to your're explanation, if we list groups from our ISP,
then these very same groups should appear. They don't ... Why not? It's
usenet isn't it?
Probably your ISP
Christian Biesinger wrote:
I said you need not register it. The following page describes how to get
rid of the Activation Screen.
http://www.hmetzger.de/net6e.html#4
The activation occurrs *during* the installation. How do you delete
activation.dll, or edit all-ns.js *before* you install?
Garth Wallace wrote:
Since you've only used Netscape 6.2, which is based on a very old
version of Mozilla, and have never used a recent milestone, how could
you possibly be able to say one way or the other? Opinions founded on
ignorance are worthless.
Please, be careful Mr. Wallace.
As are those founded on self-delusion. This privacy-invasion BS is just
what Mozilla didn't need.
But JTK, Mozilla does not have this feature so what are you
complaining?? Only Netscape has it, as proved by others.
On 03/09/2002 6:06 PM, Netscape Basher wrote:
And then they will claim only technical information is supposed to be
posted there. Which is fair because on those groups, Netscape does
provide the bandwidth.
Netscape has nothing to do with running this newsgroup.
Again, you
On 03/09/2002 6:16 PM, Netscape Basher wrote:
And Netscape 6 was supposed to provide dozens of users added themes.
What happened? Netscape pulled the plug on it.
That is Netscape shitting on its users.
Not the same as Mozilla.
Again, you have no concept or either you refuse to
On 03/10/2002 2:56 AM, Peter Lairo wrote:
The activation occurrs *during* the installation. How do you delete
activation.dll, or edit all-ns.js *before* you install?
The solution you (and Holger Metzger) provide doesn't seem possible for
someon who just downloaded N6Setup.exe. :(
I
Jay Garcia wrote:
On 03/10/2002 2:56 AM, Peter Lairo wrote:
You can of course proceed up to the point of Activation and then
cancel it. Then you can rename the .dll file or edit the .js file.
What a (unsatisfactory) hack! :(
--
Regards,
Peter Lairo
Jay Garcia wrote:
On 03/09/2002 6:06 PM, Netscape Basher wrote:
Netscape has nothing to do with running this newsgroup.
This server is a PRIVATE server located in Mountain View Ca.
Say, which server are you talking about?
For example, the server I am using to post here is located in Berlin,
Peter Lairo wrote:
The activation occurrs *during* the installation. How do you delete
activation.dll, or edit all-ns.js *before* you install?
Last time I used Netscape, it occured when I started Netscape after I
have installed it. Was this different for you?
--
They that can give up
Netscape Basher wrote:
Christian Biesinger typed:
Personally, I find that RealPlayer 8 works with everything that I've
tried.
Wait until you find a site that will tell you have to update your
player. Netscape should be giving it's customers the lastest stuff.
I didn't bother searching
Netscape 6.2.1 is based on the VERY OLD Mozilla 0.9.4.1. Themes that
work in 6.2.1 may NOT work in a future build. Therefore, why waste
programming time and effort into something that may or may not work.
Same goes for Mozilla. Themes that worked in the 0.9.8 release may NOT
work in the
I'm not totally facted-up on how usernet hierarchies work, but if
someone like Netscape sets itself up as some sort of original source of
information for a newsgroup (ie. the main/final repository), then
doesn't that mean that they have to ensure that enough high-availability
disk space +
And it came to pass that Netscape Basher wrote:
Jay Garcia typed:
On 03/09/2002 6:06 PM, Netscape Basher wrote:
And then they will claim only technical information is
supposed to be posted there. Which is fair because on those
groups, Netscape does provide the bandwidth.
Netscape has
And it came to pass that Netscape Basher wrote:
Christian Biesinger typed:
Jay Garcia wrote:
On 03/09/2002 6:06 PM, Netscape Basher wrote:
Netscape has nothing to do with running this newsgroup.
This server is a PRIVATE server located in Mountain View
Ca.
Say, which server are
On 03/10/2002 10:17 AM, Christian Biesinger wrote:
Jay Garcia wrote:
On 03/09/2002 6:06 PM, Netscape Basher wrote:
Netscape has nothing to do with running this newsgroup.
This server is a PRIVATE server located in Mountain View Ca.
Say, which server are you talking about?
For example,
On 03/10/2002 10:41 AM, Bamm Gabriana wrote:
Netscape 6.2.1 is based on the VERY OLD Mozilla 0.9.4.1. Themes that
work in 6.2.1 may NOT work in a future build. Therefore, why waste
programming time and effort into something that may or may not work.
Same goes for Mozilla. Themes that worked
On 03/10/2002 5:23 PM, Netscape Basher wrote:
Jay Garcia typed:
On 03/09/2002 6:06 PM, Netscape Basher wrote:
And then they will claim only technical information is supposed to be
posted there. Which is fair because on those groups, Netscape does
provide the bandwidth.
Netscape has
Peter Lairo wrote:
Christian Biesinger wrote:
I said you need not register it. The following page describes how to
get rid of the Activation Screen.
http://www.hmetzger.de/net6e.html#4
The activation occurrs *during* the installation. How do you delete
activation.dll, or edit
This is almost not worth posting, but if you check the full header this
newsgroup is hosted at secnews.netscape. End of argument!
Jay Garcia wrote:
On 03/09/2002 6:06 PM, Netscape Basher wrote:
And then they will claim only technical information is supposed to be
posted there. Which
Basher,
No one is complaining that you do not recomend NS 6.2.1. What people are
complaining about is the way you said it. You came across as a basher.
To paraphrase: There is nothing good about NS 6.2.1. Now if you had
simply said Wait for the next version of Netscape, or download Mozilla
On 03/10/2002 10:55 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
This is almost not worth posting, but if you check the full header this
newsgroup is hosted at secnews.netscape. End of argument!
Yup, end of argument. This group is hosted on secnews.netscape.com on
port 119 (unsecure). The name of the
it is available from 100's of servers. Jay is confused on how usenet works.
If the group was only available from secnews.netscape.com or/and
news.mozilla.org, Jay would have a point. But he doesn't.
Hello,
A newsgroup may be carried by hundreds of servers, but only
one server can host it.
I AM fully aware of how all this works. Kyle is confused by SERVER and
SERVER SOFTWARE !!
No, he is confused between hosting a newsgroup
and carrying the newsgroup.
Jay, I hope you cool down. You are a highly intellectual
person but your behavior has been worse than him. We
expect more from
Netscape Basher wrote:
And I've noticed you can't name one single meaningful advantage Netscape
6.21 has over IE 6.0
No killfilter on usenet? That is a big issue.
Well... it is a bit annoying, but big issue? no.
High memory usage? That is a big issue.
Not in my opinion.
Abandonment of
Having to register it? That is a big issue
You don't have to register it.
He's right on this one. I tried to install Netscape 6.2.1 on my
friend's new computer. Netscape will not open the first time
until you sign up with a Netcenter account. But my friend
could not sign up because she has
Bamm Gabriana wrote:
Having to register it? That is a big issue
You don't have to register it.
He's right on this one.[...]
So I uninstalled Netscape and installed Mozilla and all was fine.
I said you need not register it. The following page describes how to get
rid of the Activation
Netscape Basher wrote:
Which validates my statement. Do not download 6.2.1 until the next release.
You are posting in the wrong newsgroup. This one is about the Mozilla
project. The only reason the name begins with netscape is that
Netscape was so kind to donate disk space and bandwidth for
Netscape Basher wrote:
Christian Biesinger typed:
Bamm Gabriana wrote:
Having to register it? That is a big issue
You don't have to register it.
He's right on this one.[...]
So I uninstalled Netscape and installed Mozilla and all was fine.
I said you need not register it. The
Arg. OK. Let's continue flaming.
Netscape Basher wrote:
Christian Biesinger typed:
Netscape Basher wrote:
Abandonment of theme development on 6.2.1? Shitting on users
Pardon?? You call it shitting on users providing five themes for a
browser?
Considering Netscape hasn't made single one
Christian Biesinger wrote:
And, by the way, I just went to the Opera Home Page and was unable to
find a single theme there.
www.opera.com -- My Opera -- Customize
/Jonas
ARG! You have two possibilities: (actually, three)
Either you do what I suggested, or you do register for Netcenter, or you
close that window on every start of Netscape.
I think close that window on every start of Netscape is
bad advice.
My friend definitely wouldn't want to close it
Which validates my statement. Do not download 6.2.1 until the next
release.
Exactly the point. We all agree with you here so there's no
point bashing us on this. But the fact that NS621 sucks is
no reason to hate Mozilla, since most of your complaints
do not apply to Mozilla.
It's like
Bamm Gabriana wrote:
ARG! You have two possibilities: (actually, three)
Either you do what I suggested, or you do register for Netcenter, or you
close that window on every start of Netscape.
I think close that window on every start of Netscape is
bad advice.
My friend definitely wouldn't
Jonas Jørgensen wrote:
Christian Biesinger wrote:
And, by the way, I just went to the Opera Home Page and was unable to
find a single theme there.
www.opera.com -- My Opera -- Customize
Oh indeed, thanks for the link.
Netscape Basher: These themes are not provided by Opera. Well,
Christian Biesinger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in news:3C89F76D.20600
@web.de, on 09 Mar 2002:
Every day a full version of Mozilla is made available.
Actually, looking at the ftp server it's more like 2 to 3 times a day a
full version is made available
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Netscape Basher wrote:
Bamm Gabriana wrote:
This is a newsgroup for Mozilla, not Netscape.
We don't care about AOL's shortcuts or spyware
coz we don't have them.
netscape.public.mozilla.general
Then rename the group so it doesn't say Netscape in it.
That's what we all want, so we
Garth Wallace wrote:
Netscape Basher wrote:
Bamm Gabriana wrote:
This is a newsgroup for Mozilla, not Netscape.
We don't care about AOL's shortcuts or spyware
coz we don't have them.
netscape.public.mozilla.general
Then rename the group so it doesn't say Netscape in it.
Since you've only used Netscape 6.2, which is based on a very old
version of Mozilla, and have never used a recent milestone, how could
you possibly be able to say one way or the other? Opinions founded on
ignorance are worthless.
As are those founded on self-delusion. This privacy-invasion
I never Seen So Much Paranoia over nothing, netscape and mozilla nothing
to complain about them. look at ie 6.0 thats really invasion of privacy
its the worst when it comes to privacy. netscape 6.2.1 since to be
outdated on cookie managment but does alot better than ie 6.0. the
lastest mozilla
And it came to pass that Netscape Basher wrote:
Jonas Jørgensen typed:
Netscape Basher wrote:
Which validates my statement. Do not download 6.2.1 until
the next release.
You are posting in the wrong newsgroup. This one is about
the Mozilla project. The only reason the name begins
On Fri, 08 Mar 2002 23:35:25 GMT esteemed Netscape Basher did hold forth
thusly:
a whole bunch of snipped complaints
Well Basher Bundy, my suggestion is that you don't use NS 6.21 and stop
complaining about it.
I think Moz is maturing very nicely. Since about Moz v0.97 I've found it is
a
If you download it with the Real Player option, the Real Player it gives
is out of date. Another 8 megs to download!!
Four themes available for Netscape 6.2.1, why even bother?
No killfille for newsgroups.
Tons of reports of transferring mail settings from Communicator to 6.2.1
As reported
This is a newsgroup for Mozilla, not Netscape.
We don't care about AOL's shortcuts or spyware
coz we don't have them.
netscape.public.mozilla.general
Then rename the group so it doesn't say Netscape in it. You Mozilla
gurus are always telling people that Netscape is not Mozilla.
Even Mozilla people have always been complaining about the netscape
in the name of the mozilla newsgroup. It confuses a lot of
Also check out what client I am using tonight.
That gives me the right to bash.
I can see that you are using Netscape, not Mozilla. That
gives you the right to bash Netscape. Not Mozilla.
Please download Mozilla from www.mozilla.org
to know that your complaints do not apply to Mozilla.
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