Re: [Mpls] Police behavior

2003-01-23 Thread dyna
Hi Don, good to finally hear from you after over a month of campaigning. In response to Tamir, Let me apologise for any negligence on my part for not responding to your call. I have no recollection of your call or of receiving any message regarding your call. But, please understand, these are

Re: [Mpls] Sharing the Budget Pain

2003-01-23 Thread David Shove
On Wed, 22 Jan 2003, Tim Bonham wrote: Vicky's idea here is as senseless as Jesse Ventura's unicameral plan. Reducing the number of elected representatives just makes it much harder to reach them. . Three reps are cheaper than 13. My plan reduces the number to zero(0). We

[Mpls] 3rd Ward Politics~Observations

2003-01-23 Thread V.L. Freeman
Once again, your campaign has decided to use the race card. Why is this so? Can the samuels show find any other means to addressing the community besides using the race card? Don, in your interview a few weeks ago, you said: I will use the office as a bully pulpit to encourage African-American

[Mpls] Olson's reticence

2003-01-23 Thread Shawn Lewis
Olson's reticence A lawsuit reveals that Minneapolis police have routinely supported businesses that have denied service to minorities by threatening or carrying out an arrest (Star Tribune, Jan. 22) and Police Chief Robert Olson, who should be ultimately accountable, does not see fit to

[Mpls] Tom Johnson was a lobbyist; his words!!

2003-01-23 Thread Dave Piehl
Remember the debate some months back where I claimed Tom Johnson of Access Project fame was a lobbyist, and questioned why a lobbyist rather than a community organizer would be put in charge of community input on the Excess Project? Well, Tom Johnson wouldn't give a clear answer, so a few project

RE: [Mpls] The City's Financial Management

2003-01-23 Thread David Brauer
Michael writes: I can and do claim that city government is more democratic. 1) Knowledge. Residents must understand the function, purpose, and process of the NRP to vote wisely. I doubt very seriously that a citizen picked at random could you very much at all about the NRP

Re: [Mpls] 3rd Ward Politics

2003-01-23 Thread Susan Maricle
--- Jim Mork [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: However, Mr. Samuels disturbs me in another way. He says that drugs are sold by gangs and gangs fight for turf, and that innocents get harmed. Fine. But WHAT does drug dealing have to do with this?? /jim/ I didn't attend the truth in taxation meeting, nor

[Mpls] Don Samuels' Demagogic Campaign Rhetoric

2003-01-23 Thread Jim Mork
Susan Maricle: That's a novel perspective. Drugs cause loitering and foul language? I don't think so. I think the idle lifestyle that fosters drug business is reciprocally related to loitering and foul language. Not completely sure what all the reasons for it are, though my first reaction is

[Mpls] Chino billboards come down. Thanks, List members.

2003-01-23 Thread Lynnell Mickelsen
From Jeremy Iggers column in today's Strib Taste section, page T6 Bye-bye Billboards: Chino Latino's billboards boasting that Our happy hour is cheaper than a Bangkok brothel are gone, thanks to a protest campaign of calls and e-mails complaining that the message was racist and

RE: [Mpls] 3rd Ward Politics~Observations

2003-01-23 Thread Pamela Taylor
Good Morning List, I find it interesting that anyone is being accused of using the race card. The race issue is a FACT in dealing with the police and the community, whether people want to classify it as rhetoric or not. Wasn't the Jordan melee considered racial to a large degree? Just because

[Mpls] Letters from readers (Startribune) Chief Olson

2003-01-23 Thread Shawn Lewis
Olson's reticence A lawsuit reveals that Minneapolis police have routinely supported businesses that have denied service to minorities by threatening or carrying out an arrest (Star Tribune, Jan. 22) and Police Chief Robert Olson, who should be ultimately accountable, does not see fit to

[Mpls] Croneyism the I-35W Excess Project

2003-01-23 Thread Dave Piehl
Russell Raczkowski wrote: Tom Johnson's career as related by the SW Journal follows. I think it is clear that Johnson has some mighty connections streching from MnDOT, to corporations, to the federal level, and to Hennepin County. (snip) He has public relations, marketing, and lobbying

RE: [Mpls] 3rd Ward Politics~Observations

2003-01-23 Thread V.L. Freeman
pt: Brian did what he could do, and people were okay with that. The fact that he happened to take money under the table was a personal problem of greed. It had absolutely nothing to do with me, nor you. Well, let's see here, someone saying they are a role model to the community and the

Re: [Mpls] A favor to ask: can you forward?

2003-01-23 Thread Susan Maricle
Jim: I accidentally hit reply instead of reply all on your Third Ward message about small businesses/drugs. Would you be able to forward it to the list? If not, no biggie, I just wanted to know where I am on my daily ration of posts. Thank you! SAM

[Mpls] Re: Police Behavior

2003-01-23 Thread Tamir Nolley
Dyna Slyuter wrote: Don, good to finally hear from you after over a month of campaigning. Tamir: Don actually did get back to me as did Jonathan Palmer, who's opinions I value very much. On this, I'm sort of predisposed to support Don Samuels, but I still feel that there's a lot to answer for.

RE: [Mpls] 3rd Ward Politics

2003-01-23 Thread Michael Atherton
Jim Mork wrote: Well, I guess I won't trouble myself with Michael's answer about democracy. I think he really needs a dictionary to sort out the confusion between representation and democracy (they aren't the same thing). de-moc-ra-cy (di-mokr-se)n.pl. de-moc-ra-cies. 1. Government by

Don Samuels on the Issues (was Re: [Mpls] Union printers, trivial crimes)

2003-01-23 Thread Jhpalmerjp
Brian is either unaware of the contact I received and the requests for information regarding the DFL pledges and rules or else we have a different definition of respectful. And I look forward to discussing this matter with him more as rationale people to resolve this for the good of all

Re: Don Samuels on the Issues (was Re: [Mpls] Union printers, trivial crimes)

2003-01-23 Thread Jhpalmerjp
forgot to sign: Jonathan Palmer in Victory TEMPORARY REMINDER: 1. Send all posts in plain-text format. 2. Cut as much of the post you're responding to as possible. Minneapolis Issues Forum - A City-focused Civic Discussion - Mn E-Democracy Post messages to:

RE: [Mpls] 3rd Ward Politics~Observations

2003-01-23 Thread Pamela Taylor
Good Afternoon List Members, I have to use my second post for the day on this. Vanessa, what Brian Herron did WAS NOT a reflection on me nor any of the people who believed in his abilities as a council person. The fact that we were disappointed in his behavior is one thing, but claiming

[Mpls] Save Our Schools

2003-01-23 Thread Victoria Heller
Just a suggestion... Someone might contact the school board in our sister city Austin, Texas to find out how they deliver education for $9,000 LESS per student than Minneapolis. Districtwide Per Student Spending: $7,450 Districtwide Median SAT: 1052 Average Elementary School Performance: 75%

Re: [Mpls] Save Our Schools

2003-01-23 Thread Dana Bacon
Visiting http://www.mpls.k12.mn.us/about/report_2001/challenges_progress.shtml, I found that Minneapolis spent $10,226 per pupil in 2000. Did our per-pupil expenditures increase by $6,000 over the past two years? If not, I'd like to know how 7,450 plus 9,000 equals 10,226. On a related note, 70

Re: [Mpls] Chino billboards come down. Thanks, List members.

2003-01-23 Thread Conor Donnelly
Apparently a gleeful acceptance of the global prostitution of girls is not simply a local phenomenon. How nice of Chino to down the billboard, now I'm all happy. Can't wait to take my new daughter there when she's old enough to swallow the sarcasm. Anyone get a photo of this billboard before it

[Mpls] Save Our Schools

2003-01-23 Thread Victoria Heller
Dana Bacon wrote: I found that Minneapolis spent $10,226 per pupil in 2000. Did our per-pupil expenditures increase by $6,000 over the past two years? If not, I'd like to know how 7,450 plus 9,000 equals 10,226. Vicky replies: The $17,000 per student figure in Minneapolis (2002) came from

[Mpls] Thanks, Lynnell! + Park Board facts

2003-01-23 Thread Annie Young
Hats off to Lynnell for leading this brief but effective campaign. My 30 year olds ate with a bunch of their friends at a birthday party there last weekend and were saying how much fun and how good it was. I was feeling kind of yucky about that knowing the billboard issue. Glad to know

RE: [Mpls] Save Our Schools

2003-01-23 Thread Brown, Terrell
Try this: 46,037 students (from the MN Dept of CFL) http://cfl.state.mn.us/datactr/enroll/GED0203.xls The District's budget for fiscal year 2002 is $664.5 million (from MPS) http://www.mpls.k12.mn.us/about/report_2001/challenges_progress.shtml That is $14,434 per student. Then one of the MPS

Re: [Mpls] Save Our Schools

2003-01-23 Thread ABerget
In a message dated 1/23/03 10:41:31 AM Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Here are the key messages our legislators need to hear: 1. They will be held accountable -- We will hold our legislators accountable for funding the "adequate and efficient" public education guaranteed to

Re: [Mpls] Chino billboards come down. Thanks, List members.

2003-01-23 Thread Alan Hooker
First of all, hats off to Lynnell Mickelsen and others on this list who so believe in the power of the comsumer, as well as the power of citizens, to let their voices be agents of change. Whether it's through this List or through the ballot box, one or two voices can truly make a difference.

[Mpls] NRP Funding

2003-01-23 Thread Dee Long
Jim Graham writes, in part: Is it true NRP is not a City Program, it is a State mandated program set up by State of Minnesota Statute? While this might be technically true, here is the actual situation. First, State law fairly specifically controls how and where cities may use Tax

[Mpls] RE: Save our schools

2003-01-23 Thread happy_kappy
If all the list members who are talking about the budget issues for MPS, they should attend the SOS meeting this Sunday, January 26, 2003, at 2 p.m. at the Whittier Community Center, 2600 Grand Avenue South, Minneapolis. and hear from legislators and School Board members about the costs for

Re: [Mpls] 3rd Ward Politics~Observations~Brian Herron

2003-01-23 Thread WizardMarks
V.L. Freeman wrote: pt: Brian [Herron] did what he could do, and people were okay with that. The fact that he happened to take money under the table was a personal problem of greed. It had absolutely nothing to do with me, nor you. Well, let's see here, someone saying they are a role model

[Mpls] 3 CM NRP Addendum and Municipal Service Consolidations?

2003-01-23 Thread Jeffrey Strand
#CM NRP Addendum and Municipal Service Consolidations? When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than Re: Contents of Mpls digest... Today's Topics: 3. 3 Council Members NRP Commentary Very sorry, I forgot to sign my post from January 22. I heard from an informed

RE: [Mpls] The City's Financial Management

2003-01-23 Thread Michael Atherton
Before responding to Mr. Brauer's points individual I would like to stress that the major problem with the NRP is that there are no standardized procedures related to voting that are uniformly enforced. There are no serious checks and balances to detect fraud. And, there are no realistic ways

RE: [Mpls] Goodman, Lane, Benson Commentary NRP Resolution

2003-01-23 Thread Gregory D. Luce
I'm not yelling--I actually hadn't thought through the equation yet, and perhaps the bigger question is the one you raise--non-funding. But non-funding from whom, and who decides non-funding? Can the city unilaterally determine not to fund NRP? Or is it merely an equation of leftover TI money