I believe that we should be #1 nationally in football.
To meet this goal we need a new stadium. To finance
a new stadium every citizen in Minneapolis should
contribute an additional $500 in taxes annually.
Let's make Minneapolis Number 1!
Irony and sarcasm should be noted.
Michael Atherton
still order drinks in the restaurant without going
into the bar?
I hope that now the Minneapolis City Council will consider
allowing its citizens a choice as well.
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force everyone else to met your needs?
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Why force everyone else to met your needs?
Right back at you, Michael.
Sorry, but it's the ban augments that have the contradictions.
Why should many among us put up with the gut-level emotional
disgust of losing friends
of non-smokers from the
unhealthy effects of second-hand smoke. Smoking in public
places is that which takes choice away, not the other way around.
A large percentage of the 80% majority of non-smokers never set foot
in many of the places that the smoking ban effects.
Michael Atherton
because nothing you
have *chosen* to do, good or bad, is likely to be the
subject of a ban anything school. I love how you've
decided that it's now time for me to reinvent myself.
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suggestions won't work. ;-) But, I can analyze and
explain execute all of them successfully given a
specific situation.
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Seth Kirk wrote:
I only voted for the most recent referendum, but I know for certain
that the actual ballots contained no wording about class size. The
ballot language only described the technical detail of the tax
increase. The referendum campaign talked about specific class size,
are these threads so focused on teachers' needs,
rather than students and achievement?
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Thanks,
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sizes are more important for
the numbers of union members that they result in and not
how they benefit students. Voters should think twice
before once again accepting an increase in funding that
does not increase student achievement and also fails to
reduce class sizes.
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validated by
a national study. :-) So how long is it going to
take before we see any improvement in the MPS?
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is a public health hazard. Recently, several hunters
(not to mention regular citizens), have been killing by their
own hunting parties. To protect the public from secondhand
bullets we need to ban all hunting!
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Election day should be a national holiday.
Then everyone can be out of town on election
day. Why don't we make the 4th of July election
day? It'd be patriotic.
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Dan McGrath wrote:
I guess most voters decided, better the devil you know.
The ones who chose to stay home must have reached the
conclusion that it makes no difference.
Some countries have laws that require voting. Should
Minneapolis? Can Minneapolis legally require voting?
Michael
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of Amsterdam.
If you enlarge it enough you might be able to see the marijuana
plants growing in the window. If you so choose, you can stop
in have a cup of coffee and smoke a marijuana cigarette. If
you were to do so, who is harmed against their will?
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PS: I don't smoke
they are compromised and
in need of revision.
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is untenable and intellectually corrupt.
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David Strand wrote:
Michael Atherton asks:
Not that I don't have sympathy for people with
asthma, but what is the comparative percentage of
asthma sufferers who will frequent bars compared to
the percentage of smokers?
I don't know if the following statistics help or not
but here
Farheen Hakeem wrote:
[snip]
So do want to know my opinion about this? Maybe you should
come to the debate and maybe I'll make a statement.
Gosh, I am such a tease!
Teasing is not an attribute that I look for in
mayoral candidates. I much prefer directness
and honesty.
Michael
has something to say to us, I think
she should say it.
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in Minneapolis?
All of the advantages the rest of us share living in the city. :-)
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people to choose not to frequent
places where it is played. The latter option allows people
who enjoy Mariachi music to have some places to go and
hear it.
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does not want to be exposed to secondhand smoke has other
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Home Education Research Institute. [you can access a summary
of this report at:
http://www.hslda.org/research/ray2003/HomeschoolingGrowsUp.pdf]
If anyone would like to engage in a how and why discussion of
homeschooling in Minneapolis I'd be happy to.
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it would be fun for them to hear a Mariachi
band (not to mention getting to try out a new restaurant),
but then Mr. Kahn doesn't think very much of
homeschooling either. :-|
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in Spanish. :-|
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Bill Kahn wrote:
The bias suggested by Michael Atherton is ridiculous. I
simply responded to his request for good Mexican restaurants
in S. Minneapolis with Mariachi music on weekends.
Mr. Kahn said, ...the underlying themes in most Mariachi
music are not very suitable or interesting
Is there a Mexican restaurant in Minneapolis where
you can go to hear Mariachi music on weekends?
Also, after randomly driving around S Mpls looking
for an excellent (central Mexican) taco/burrito
takeout place and not finding one, can anyone offer
a suggestion?
Thanks in advance,
Michael
. Is there anyone in the List
who has eaten there and can recommend somewhere in Mpls
with a similar style of cooking?
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If this is the best the DFL can do, then I think they're blind
to what many Americans are hoping to see in a political party.
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the amount of prejudice.
I also don't believe that you can teach compassion. What
you might be able to teach is respect, courtesy, and tolerance
(none of which require compassion), but this is difficult to
do when student realize that such attitudes are conditional,
even for adults.
Michael
anyway? ;-)
If Councilmember Samuels did call someone a pornographer
I think he owes them an apology.
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will consider running
for a citywide office in the future so that I can have a
chance to vote for him.
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http://news.minnesota.publicradio.org/features/2005/09/29_williamsb_zimmerma
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to become a founding member! :-) You don't need
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Doug Mann responded:
In a message dated 9/23/2005 Michael Atherton wrote,
Just for the sake of fairness, before calling for Mr. Hefflefinger's
resignation, shouldn't we ask Mr. Zimmermann to make a public
declaration of his innocence and provide us with his version of
events
. Zimmermann to make a public
declaration of his innocence and provide us with his version of
events?
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to look like one giant sleaze ball.
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cookie jar attitude, Why me? Why can't I end up with
a great cooperate job after I leave office?
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activity may be indicative of Mr. Zimmermann's cooperation. I guess
Mr. Mann doesn't watch The Sopranos. ;-)
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a random contributor,
but someone with business outcomes impacted by council
decisions. The fact that such contributions are even
legal should be an embarrassment to the city of Minneapolis.
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One of the few times I have to agree with Michael Atherton.
Actually, Mr. Graham and I still disagree. While Mr. Graham
appears to only be concerned with the indiscretion of one
green politician, I am concerned about the ethical pitfalls
of the entire system, including Mr
think that the
FBI is just blowing smoke rings. Whoa. How are they suppose
to tell the difference between collusion and contribution?
When it shows up on the contributor list? Well, apparently
they didn't show on Councilmember Zimmerman's.
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For state
OPPS! Right! Sorry, my mistake. Misread the map.
Thanks Loki. Well, that's also interesting given that
it's Cam Gordon's neighborhood. Right? Goes to show
what can go wrong when you rush things. Ack.
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the stagnant political quagmire that Minneapolis has become,
but looking across the candidates I see only isolated
possibilities for change. May God (or the FBI) help us all.
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and is uncharacteristic of the performance
that I would expect of a city councilmember. I had more
respect for Candidate Mann when he ran his school board campaigns
on facts, rather than wild unverified accusations.
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in Minneapolis have been changed with corruption? It's not
because the FBI is biased against Greens and the DFL, it's because
there are no Republicans on the council!
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but in truth no amount of liberal word waving vacates the
semantics of individual moral responsibility.
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then have decided that it was in the interests of an informed
electorate that they should proceed with their investigation
(not to mention that they might have compromised their case by
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that someone be so quick to rush to judgment
without any evidence, regardless of whether
it's evidence of guilt or innocence.
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consequences for our society.
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others have said. I made no presumptions of innocence or guilt.
I was making a point about the moral dangers of unconditional
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No matter what it is a sad day for Minneapolis.
Again.
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edges of commitment to Old Labor (as can be evidenced by the
Police Federation recommendation) support for the pork barrel NRP program,
and hope for a more progressive and farsighted DFL.
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is one that
could have benefited greatly from the sleep on it rule.
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unlikely that they would incarcerate anyone based on a
misdemeanor citizen's arrest. Could this situation been
handled better? It would seem so, but it would have
depended on now busy a night it was and how serious the
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would be any different?
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, this is DEFINITELY not
proof of her effectiveness. I could as easily claim that
the improvement in test scores is due to NCLB.
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-preservation.
I always thought it was funny that every year or so
Minnesotan papers have an article about the dangers
of walking or driving on the ice, while in L.A. every
year or so there's an article about how to protect
yourself at ATMs and what to do if your car breaks down
on the freeway.
Michael
this constant harassment strategy to be offensive.
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an stake in perpetuating them).
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Would equality of educational opportunity eliminate crime and
poverty? No, of course not, but it would reduce their pervasiveness.
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asking rhetorical questions like this when the answers
are so obvious. I guess it might have something to do
with being the 23rd most liberal city in America. ;-)
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keyboard. What bores you
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everyone who currently drinks (and
swallows) in public to do it at home, that'd really make
the bar and restaurant industry happy. Unbelievable.
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At most, your argument would require the isolation of smokers,
not the prohibition of smoking. As I have pointed out many
times previously: Vancouver, B.C. has required the construction
of smoking rooms by bars that want to allow patrons to smoke
Jim Bernstein wrote:
To quote Michael Atherton: . . . which is why I spend so much time
defending the rights of others to make their own choices as long as
they don't inflict their choices on other people.
Smoking in enclosed public spaces is a near perfect example of
inflicting
successful in getting it banned, using many of
the same reasons to justify the smoking ban. The power to
force your values on others, when their behavior has no direct
impact, allows the same type of impositions on you.
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loyalties lie? With the staff?
With the teachers? With the DFL? Whose loyalties
lie with the students?
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in significant progress at this point in time.
It's certainly reasonable to conclude that the MPS haven't made
much progress with the currently staff in the last ten years.
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. What were we saying about bad
principles? What about bad administrators?
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that it does. Can we please stay on the same topic? If you'd
like to argue that the seniority system results in equitable
educational opportunities for all races please be my guest.
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that would have been open
to everyone, this is why. Talk about social justice!
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Drawn from the DOE website:
WhiteBlack Years of Exp
Students Students3 10
to
equalize the delivery of educational services then we have failed as
a free and democratic society. And there is no need to fail. As
an individual I can come up with any number of possible solutions,
none of which will be entirely pleasant for teachers, but so what.
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of students by perpetuating a seniority system that assigns
the least experienced teachers to the students in the greatest
need and secondly, they continue to use instructional methods
and practices that rely on unexamined and unverified philosophical
assumptions.
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this problem. When discussing this type of issues it is
important to look at the numbers. Perhaps someone from the
MPS can provide us with a breakdown by school or by race
matched with years of teaching experience? Don't hold your
breath.
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are as much a part of the problem as they are a part of the
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left the details of test design up to the States (a big mistake in
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the answer was focused summer programs that students didn't attend,
why did the MPS continue to move students onto the next grade even
though they hadn't mastered basic skills? As far as I know the MPS
are still practicing social promotion!
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testing at most grade levels and include all students.
The type of test and testing standards are left up to
individual states. The fact that the District hasn't
modified and consolidated their tests to conform
with NCLB is their responsibility.
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The fact that the District hasn't
modified and consolidated their tests to conform
with NCLB is their responsibility.
David Brauer wrote:
Can you explain more about this?
NCLB requires testing of all students in grades 3-8,
annually, in reading
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All the other tests are the District's
idea ...
Opps, sorry! I should have said the District's
or the State's idea.
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over and above those at similar schools in the Metro.
I haven't seen that analysis yet. If such an analysis
does show a significant difference, then the Board's
concern about style should be ignored.
Michael Atherton
Prospect Park
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is not that discrimination exists
(most us of probably agree that it does). What we need to
know is what factors can be modified to help people find
jobs.
Michael Atherton
Prospect Park
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vehicles are known to cause permanent and fatal
injuries to secondhand drivers and even innocent
pedestrians. Do you drive?
Michael Atherton
Prospect Park
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, because we already know
(and ignore) that there is a solution that reduces the
risk of secondhand smoke in bars and restaurants to close
to zero.
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probability of being killed by someone with a license to carry one is
even smaller. This all breaks down to whether you feel carrying guns
is a good idea or not.
Michael Atherton
Prospect Park
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Michael Atherton wrote:
Most importantly, I would like to point out that it might
be that the majority of those ARRESTED are Blacks who claim
to live in Minneapolis and those not arrested are suburban
Whites.
Also, keep in mind that only a fool would give an out-of-state
address
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