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Peter:
Hear here. I'd like to address the part about
Taxes: Collection and Spending
Marks:The second issue is how tax money gets spent. I think you're outta
luck here, Jim. The city's first three jobs are fire, police, and public
works. If you live anywhere in this country, you're gonna pay for at
least two of those. (I hear that some areas still
On Oct 28, 2003, at 1:21 AM, Peter Jessen wrote:
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Peter Jessen, Portland
Oregon.
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From our website:
WHAT IS POLICE BRUTALITY?
Communities United Against Police Brutality defines police brutality as
the use of excessive or unnecessary force by police officers with the
purpose or expectation of causing death, bodily harm or mental harm to a
human being. It is generally
Garrity refers to a legal case in which it was ruled that police officers
are compelled by law to testify to CRA, Internal Affairs and other
quasi-courts but, in exchange, that testimony cannot be used against them
in actual court hearings.
I wasn't on the list back when I chaired the Outcomes
I'm confused. Why is this called the settlement offer? I have been out of the country for three weeks and didn't realize there had been a settlement to the redistricting suit brought by Council Members Johnson Lee, Zimmermann etal.
Karen Collier
Linden Hills
Lee Eklund wrote:
Having observed the Minneapolis
City Council since 1988, I, among others have noticed a change since the
remodeling of the council chambers. In the former configuration (horseshoe),
council members for the most part faced or observed each other during
debate. In the new
Lee Ecklund has some good points here...
I total agree about the shape of the horseshooe vs the old setting in the
old chambers...
I know that is true also in the old vs new Park
Board Board room. Our horseshoe is much bigger now and my adversary
is really far away and I certainly can't look him
Members,
It brings me sadness to relay the death of list member Jude Poseley. I
didn't know Jude that well, but I will remember her as a class act and a
deeply committed member of the community. For example, we disagreed on the
last mayor's race, but during the election season, when we met, she
Mork: It is the MIS-spending of it to make law enforcement feel
safe when the JOB is to make the TAXPAYER feel safe. When cops
attack taxpayers, the purpose of the largest expenditure is not being
achieved. The city is LESS safe, and the money is wasted.
Heller: 8% of the Mpls budget is for
David Brauer wrote: Our last few unsubscribers have
written to express displeasure with the belligerent,
one-on-one tone of many posts that do little to build
community, propose solutions, or sincerely and
respectfully debate differences.)
David, thanks again for all the work you do on this
Thanks again David, and speaking of building
community, how many members do we have? Is the number
going up or down?
We've been static for nearly a year...between 875-900 addresses subscribed.
Inactive addresses are regularly purged, by the way.
By the way, the two biggest reasons people
Police Violence
Heller: 8% of the Mpls budget is for Police and 4% is for Fire protection.
That totals a whopping 12% spent for public safety -- a shameful pittance.
The largest expenditure in Minneapolis is actually corporate welfare, real
estate developer subsidies, and related debt service.
I've just returned from ten days in the North Dakota Badlands, where
I visited a sick parent. Not a happy occasion, to be sure, but it was
eased somewhat by the chance to do a bit of hiking and take a few
photographs. And I have to tell you, I was stunned (as I always am)
by the beauty of that
Welcome back from your trip to the Prairie. Another
event in that neck of the woods worth mentioning. Just
down the street from Franklin Library was the Grand
Opening kick-off for the new Franklin Street Bakery. I
heard they were passing out free bread. It will be
open to the public in time for
In further communications, with the City of Minneapolis'
Elections and Voter Registration office and the Secretary of State's office, I'm
hearing the following:
While the State of Minnesota is considering DRE machines, it
has not made any decision about future voting technology. It is
Heller: 8% of the Mpls budget is for Police and 4% is for Fire
protection. That totals a whopping 12% spent for public safety -- a
shameful pittance.
. . .
Vicky Heller
North Oaks
As usual, Vicky is leaving out a big part of the story here.
Way more of the city budget is spent on public
My fears are probably the same as many of you when it comes to electronic voting
machines.
Paper ballots are the only way to go.
Without it there is way too much risk of tampering by many, many entities.
I happen to very much like the system in Mpls used right now.
It works, and its verifiable,
It's always sad when someone dies, but sadder still
when the person is so young. Jude was only 58. She
was part of the young DFL activists of the 1970's
that were the new wave of that time. Like David, I
did not know her well, but had met her several times
as she is a good friend of many good
The defeat of the River Run housing proposal in Sheridan neighborhood
generated quite a lot of discussion about the influence of neighborhood
groups in conducting citizen review of proposed projects in their
neighborhoods. I believe the criticism leveled by some affordable
housing groups over
Community
If the goal (or even just one of the goals) of this list is community
building, then WHAT sense does it make to retain people who think
Minneapolis is terrible, finished, or anything negative like that. I will
make the modest proposal that only BOOSTERS of Minneapolis, people who
Jim Mork writes:
Community
If the goal (or even just one of the goals) of this list is community
building, then WHAT sense does it make to retain people who think
Minneapolis is terrible, finished, or anything negative like that. I will
make the modest proposal that only BOOSTERS of
I agree that there are many problems with ensuring accountability in
electronic voting machines and there are many more problems with reliability.
But to answer Ron Leurquin's question: The idea is that the receipt is
printed out in such a way that the voter can check it, then it is deposited
Well, I have held my tongue all day, but this last was the tipping point.
If you can't say anything nice.
Today's conversation on this forum has been deafening by the total silence
of the main topic of conversation on this forum for the last couple of
weeks, namely, the Porter case. Ms Gross
Anne McCandless says, Shame on you all. At least have the grace to say that
you may be wrong if not sorry.
What a shameful thing to say Anne! Can you imagine the hypocrites taking
their foot out of their mouths let alone shrinking their long self righteous
arm so that they can no longer feel
I don't much jump into the fray anymore but I do want
to address some misconceptions about Barbara
Schneider.
If one reads the investigative report of the event it
becomes painfully clear that the police over reacted.
You won't find many police wanting to defend action
taken in this instance.
Good post Bruce!
Bruce Shoemaker makes some very good points about NIMBY rants by some
Affordable Housing advocates. Ethical organizations do in fact work with
neighborhoods and communities to create housing that is both acceptable and
supported by the residents of those communities. In my
Excuse me, but CUAPB is not the ones who held the press conferences with
Stephen Porter. In fact, we disagree very much with the way that case is
being handled, however that is an internal movement dispute--not an
appropriate subject for public discussion, especially on a list full of
folks
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From: gemgram [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I think we, as a community, cannot tolerate either police misconduct
or the
false accusations that seem to be so prevalent.
Well said, Jim.
MN here, with something I heard on the radio recently. It appears to
have been written some
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