As a fairly new DFLer and Rybak supporter, I find Wizard Marks' post a bit
ironic.
I too find that the DFL can be a bit stagnant, but I've come to that
conclusion for opposite reasons. It was the DFL party itself that came
within a whisker of endorsing Peter McLaughlin for mayor. It seems that
I nominate Mr. Cooney post below as Post of the Year. A fantastic
analysis in a pithy 250 words.
Dean E. Carlson
East Harriet, Ward 10
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Date: Monday, November 14, 2005 9:44 am
Subject: Re: [Mpls] Doug Grow on the Death
Cooney, Dale [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Its that very same insular party apparatus that allows the Walt Dzeidzics
and Bob Fines of the world to secure relatively pain-free DFL endorsements.
It seems we have to correct this error almost every couple weeks. Bob Fine
has never been a DFL endorsed
Correcting myself here: Bob Fine failed to get endorsed. (See. There is
hope!)
-Dale Cooney
Central
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Its that very same insular party apparatus that allows the Walt Dzeidzics
and Bob Fines of the world to secure relatively pain-free
Again perhaps a little out of your kneck of the woods,
Scott ran for Park Board as a Green in 2001 and as a
DFL'er in 2004. I think it says alot about the fine
qualities that Scott will bring to the park board that
both parties have endorsed him in races for office. I
wouldn't reduce this to a
I agree to a certain extent with Grow's and others assessment that the
old guard is old, I believe his point was. That's true and I've been
hearing staunch leaders of the party say they want to retire. They've
been in office a long time and they're tired, particularly since the
Pawlenty onset.
Wizard writes:
I think that the young turks, at this point, are more likely to come
from the Greens than from the DFL. It's a young party and is attracting
bright people. Farheen Hakeem is one such.
While I don't disagree the Greens are attracting bright people, I think this
is way too harsh
I agree with David Bauer that the future isn't promised to any political
party. I would hope that the future is promised to those parties (and
candidates) that bring forth the issues that best serve the people.
As Greens we do have a lot of party building to do, but despite blatant
From Doug Grow's column:
She (Arvonne Fraser) believes the electorate is in a state of denial, not
prepared to take on the serious issues of the day.
Contrasted to this viewpoint is that of George Latimer, who sees the future
of the DFL in candidates like Rybak: independent and aware of the
What I have noticed is that Minneapolis likes to cut its own noise off to spit
its face. In other posts people were complaining about the urban/suburban
split yet are not trying to understand how to overcome said split. This split
must be overcome, or more and more Minneapolis and St. Paul
GP is the second party. Some years ago running for state house Cam Gordon
got 25%, the RP 19%, and the DFL all the rest.
Greens had 2 council members, now due to DFL dirty tricks has only one.
Where are the RP council members?
--David Shove
Roseville
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Wizard writes:
I think that the young turks, at this point, are more likely to come
from the Greens than from the DFL. It's a young party and is attracting
bright people. Farheen Hakeem is one such.
While I don't disagree the Greens are attracting bright people, I
think
No, this is all wrong also...first it is the DFL party, then the DFLer
party, then the Green party and
the Republicans are tied :+}! I think the GOP vote is higher than the
greens in most wards. Even in
12 ...GOP goes as high as 24% with Greens at 11-14. Knowingly, Greens
outvote the GOP's
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works for me. I think Grow's topic was legit - the delay took a lot of starch
out of people - but he missed the bigger story - nearly 2,000 people
participating! Was the snafu really the most important thing that happened May 12?
Personally, that would be a point I'd emphasize.
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Lots of delegates...and delay.
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Why do some of us have to keep pointing out and pointing out and pointing
out... the obvious. Why are we using public tax monies to support private
businesses, which the Twins and the Vikings most certainly are? Why do we have
to keep shoveling money down the maws of the wealthy when
I'm shocked, shocked not to see any defense of the Mayor
after he was skewered by Doug Grow. I guess most people on
this list plan to hold their noses when they pull the lever. Or
do we think the Mayor is truthful when he sidesteps the issue.
Say what you will about the stadium but at least
Tim Connolly wrote:
I'm shocked, shocked not to see any defense of the Mayor
after he was skewered by Doug Grow. I guess most people on
this list plan to hold their noses when they pull the lever. Or
do we think the Mayor is truthful when he sidesteps the issue.
Say what you will about the stadium
Doug Grow: A $1-a-year civil rights leader
Doug Grow, Star Tribune
May 28, 2004
Spike Moss, one of the most loved, most feared,
most loathed and most respected civil rights
leaders in the Twin Cities, is about to become
unemployed. Or is he?
Doug Grow: A $1-a-year civil rights leader
Doug Grow, Star Tribune
May 28, 2004
Spike Moss, one of the most loved, most feared,
most loathed and most respected civil rights
leaders in the Twin Cities, is about to become
unemployed. Or is he?
Eureka will be pleased...
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Please read Doug Grow's column first
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Minneapolis has already paid out over $20 million in judgments for
violating property rights, AND OUR CITY LEADERS STILL DON'T GET THE
MESSAGE. Of course it's not their money that they are losing - it's
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Good grief! Blaming the white power structure for the infighting at
the NAACP makes about as much sense as blaming
#163, #164, and #172.
Peter Jessen, Portland
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Historical memory. Here
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Historical memory. Here is a much more comprehensive of the power
struggles
Subject: RE: [Mpls] Doug Grow on Mpls NAACP infighting
JORDAN - Thanks for the City Pages link! I remembered the story as soon
as I opened the link.
I also recall reading the story at that time and wondering what the
cover and headline of the City Pages story had to do with the article
, to political
organizations, and even to advocacy organizations.
Jim Bernstein
Fulton
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Good grief! Blaming the white power structure for the infighting at
the NAACP makes about as much sense as blaming a black power structure
for the infighting at the Daughters of the American
Anyone even marginally aware of the struggle within the NAACP knows that it
is about efforts by the white power structure to insert their operatives
into the organization to maintain the status quo.
The NAACP was going to be given money to monitor the consent decree in the
lawsuit against the
Grow: This is an organization that has become success-proof. The NAACP is
so busy bickering with itself that it can't take on the issues of our time.
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Thank you, Doug Grow, for separating the good Negroes from the bad
Negroes.---Peter Schmitz CARAG
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Playing off a Strib copy editor/MPS teacher's tale, Grow unintentionally
confirms Doug Mann's point about
Playing off a Strib copy editor/MPS teacher's tale, Grow unintentionally
confirms Doug Mann's point about experience discrimination (my quotes) at
poorer MPS schools.
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Can someone please tell me when it is officially White History Month? I would be interested to know when and where this exhibit will be put up, and by whom. And, what specifically would this exhibitcontain?
Sounds stupid does it not? A White person will never even have to think of
Once again, DFL shows that it only talks the talk
Doug Grow
Star Tribune
Published Feb. 4, 2003 GROW04
The boys inside the DFL club spend a lot
of time wondering why they're not loved
more.
Just listen to us, the boys like to say.
We speak eloquently for women. We speak
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The 'Choice is Yours' program did not resolve the problem of black students
receiving an inferior education in the Minneapolis Public Schools, as the
settlement of the NAACP educational adequacy lawsuit stipulates. The Choice
is Yours program is the type limited, one-way, city-to-suburb
Doug Grow: New leader of NAACP branch faces an uphill battle
Doug Grow
Star Tribune
Published Jan. 5, 2003
In a period of new leadership in Minnesota,
no one is taking on a more difficult or
more important job than Al Gallmon, who
last week became president of the Minneapolis
I think that Reverend Gallmon did not stand a good chance of winning a
three-way
contest for the presidency of the Minneapolis NAACP because he was seen as
an outsider. I never saw Mr. Gallmon at an NAACP branch meeting prior to
October 2002. Gallmon ran for the post of first vice-president
Hey, what ever happened to Shariff Willis/Gangs for Peace and all that
stuff? SSB and him organized some sort of 'get out of gangs free'
organization in the say, early 90s. Anyone know?
How about a group called MAD DADS - Men Against Destruction -Defending
Against Drugs and Social disorder?
leadership, not by words but by praxis.
Jim Graham
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Doug Grow: Activist or act. Spike Moss is a
conundrum
Doug Grow
Star Tribune
Published Aug 29, 2002
I've lived in Minneapolis for 23 years and
for too much of that time I've been trying
to figure out Spike Moss.
An activist? An act? A Sharpton? A tough?
A civil-rights leader? Or
the people responsible for these assaults and bring
them to justice?
Karen Forbes
Central
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Doug Grow
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I was pleased to read Doug Grow's column on Spike Moss because I have been
wondering
I don't know Spike Moss personally, but I can share an experience that sheds
some light on who he is.
In 1999, following the Hollman Decree and the decision to tear down numerous
public housing units on the north side of Minneapolis, Mr. Moss, along with
12 other local activists (including
At 10:46 AM 8/29/02 -0500, Karen Forbes wrote:
I was pleased to read Doug Grow's column on Spike Moss because I have been
wondering who this guy is. I have heard his name bantered about for years
but I know little about him. Does anyone out there know anything about him?
For example where does
Thank you to Doug Grow for his article in today's StarTribune on the
resumption of Metropolitan Airports Commission meetings beyond the security
checkpoints at the airport (MAC seems safe from any attack):
http://www.startribune.com/stories/465/3175790.html
Grow's description of a public
Doug Grow and Paul Rohlfing are right on target on
this issue. Who could suggest with a straight face
that air-traffic safety in Minnesota would be
jeopardized by holding MAC meetings outside the
security zone? The putting a beautiful space to good
use argument doesn't hold water, either.
Assessing the man who may have a street named for him.
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Strib editorial on the Federation-Johnson Lee aftermath, and Syl Jones
on the same subject...
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According to Grow, Johnson Lee got advice from a couple of other council
members on the two fellow citizens -- two fellow human beings part
before releasing the letter.
They said it was fine, but they're being silent now,
she said, mild disgust in her voice.
I wonder who the
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The funniest part of this is:
Sabri emphatically believes there should be just one Cinco de Mayo
celebration this year -- the one promoted by him. He's furious with City
Council Vice President Robert Lilligren, whom Sabri calls King Tut and
On 4/29/02 11:35 AM, Eva Young wrote:
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The funniest part of this is:
Sabri emphatically believes there should be just one Cinco de Mayo
celebration this year -- the one promoted by him. He's furious with City
Council Vice President
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Interesting column, and one paragraph stood out:
There are other political differences [between Minneapolis and St. Paul].
For example, the Neighborhood Revitalization Program in Minneapolis has turned the
city into a maze of little neighborhood fiefdoms, each clamoring for dollars for local
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Interesting column, and one paragraph stood out:
There are other political differences [between Minneapolis and St. Paul].
For example, the Neighborhood Revitalization Program in Minneapolis has
turned the city into a maze of little neighborhood
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Jim Niland was quotes saying this:
But Niland added that Rybak also caught breaks, not of his making. Sayles
Belton made the huge mistake of not leaving on top. If Sharon had not run, it
would have been a different, Niland said. Cherryhomes or [Hennepin
County Commissioner] Peter McLaughlin
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