On Thu, Feb 20, 2014 at 06:31:28PM -0800, ga...@garryricketsonartworks.org
wrote:
At first I asked nicely, but this BS is getting on my nerves. REMOVE ME
FROM THIS LIST!
Why are you reminding yourself and bitching at yourself for the fact that
you haven't removed yourself from the list
On Tue, Jul 30, 2013 at 11:44:44AM -0500, David Champion wrote:
* On 30 Jul 2013, James Griffin wrote:
David, out of curiosity, how do you get voicemail sent to your email
server?
I have home VoIP service, and the provider (Megapath, formerly known
as Speakeasy) has this as a built-in
On Thu, Jan 10, 2013 at 05:56:15PM +, Grant Edwards wrote:
On 2013-01-10, Jim Graham spooky1...@gmail.com wrote:
On Thu, Jan 10, 2013 at 10:57:03AM -0500, Mark H. Wood wrote:
On Wed, Jan 09, 2013 at 01:59:22PM -0600, Jim Graham wrote:
[snip]
Btw, port 587 is one of those that I said
On Tue, Jan 08, 2013 at 05:33:02PM -0500, Patrick Shanahan wrote:
* Jim Graham spooky1...@gmail.com [01-08-13 13:38]:
[...]
Just be advised, this will result in SPF=NEUTRAL or SPF=FAIL (usually
neutral, from what I've seen). Depending on the settings for the list
you're on (as well
On Wed, Jan 09, 2013 at 11:54:57AM -0500, Patrick Shanahan wrote:
* Alexander Gattin xr...@yandex.ru [01-09-13 11:23]:
On Wed, Jan 09, 2013 at 09:50:59AM -0500, Patrick
Shanahan wrote:
that way 10 years ago. SMTP servers no longer accept users' mail at
port 25, but tend to do this at
On Wed, Jan 09, 2013 at 12:42:42PM -0500, Patrick Shanahan wrote:
* Jim Graham spooky1...@gmail.com [01-09-13 12:25]:
On Wed, Jan 09, 2013 at 11:54:57AM -0500, Patrick Shanahan wrote:
* Alexander Gattin xr...@yandex.ru [01-09-13 11:23]:
On Wed, Jan 09, 2013 at 09:50:59AM -0500, Patrick
On Wed, Jan 09, 2013 at 03:05:17PM -0500, Patrick Shanahan wrote:
* Jim Graham spooky1...@gmail.com [01-09-13 15:02]:
But you are not limited to port 25 for outgoing mail. Assign a higher
port, 1024.
You mean a port like, say, port 587, which I have had configured for
no, 1024
On Tue, Jan 08, 2013 at 08:04:05AM -0500, Patrick Shanahan wrote:
* horseriver horseriv...@gmail.com [01-08-13 06:16]:
I can not receive mails which are sent by myself to a mail list .
If you want to see the list mail you post, use a different smtp agent,
ie: your own isp, and use your
On Wed, Dec 19, 2012 at 04:12:55PM -0500, Alan McConnell wrote:
I call up mutt from one of my terms(URxvt) and it displays my
E-mail from /var/spool/mail/alan, as is normal. With many
of my mails I press 'v' to get a display like
I 1 no description
Changing the subject so this (hopefully) doesn't restart the endless
thread.
On Mon, Dec 10, 2012 at 06:27:42AM -0500, Rich Kulawiec wrote:
On Tue, Nov 20, 2012 at 06:44:35PM -0600, Jim Graham wrote:
If you keep track, you'll probably find, as I have, that HTML-only
e-mail is between 99
On Mon, Dec 10, 2012 at 02:33:56PM +0200, Nikola Petrov wrote:
What about clients that you are doing support for?
That's so easy to handle, I'm surprised to see it asked (at least,
if you're using procmail). You create two (or more) rc files for
procmail. For example, I have a setup that
On Fri, Nov 30, 2012 at 09:57:50AM -0500, Mark H. Wood wrote:
I don't think it was about sending mail through a .gmail address; it
was about using the GMail web thingy to compose the mail being sent,
People actually USE that POS!? The e-mail lists (now only one left)
that I've created all
On Fri, Nov 30, 2012 at 06:20:00PM +, Grant Edwards wrote:
I killfiled all postings from google groups years ago...
Well, I suppose you'll never be on my list, then (it's a support and
announcement type list for the freeware hurricane tracker (JStrack)
that I wrote back in ca. 1996, and
On Sat, Dec 01, 2012 at 02:12:03AM +, Grant Edwards wrote:
On 2012-11-30, Jim Graham spooky1...@gmail.com wrote:
announcement type list for the freeware hurricane tracker (JStrack)
[]
It's a google groups list.
If needed I can change the killfile rule so that it doesn't apply
On Fri, Nov 30, 2012 at 11:15:42PM -0500, Patrick Shanahan wrote:
Yahoo now requires posting from a yahoo account via their smtp or from
their web service, since last year some time. I have dropped all but one
group, but only read. I refuse to use their web service.
Strange...because one of
On Thu, Nov 29, 2012 at 08:42:16AM +, Jamie Paul Griffin wrote:
[ Erik Christiansen Wrote On Thu 29.Nov'12 at 5:26:49 GMT ]
It can be worse than just evidencing irritation at inconsiderately
formatted posts, fullquoting, top posting, lack of proper sentence
structure, html, or other
On Thu, Nov 29, 2012 at 11:27:13AM -0500, Patrick Shanahan wrote:
* Jim Graham spooky1...@gmail.com [11-29-12 11:16]:
Perhaps the same as for a hotmail/yahoo/ms/aol/... address. Years past
Well yeah, I remember those...never used them because I knew they were
useless from day one (except
On Fri, Nov 23, 2012 at 09:27:49PM -0500, Peter Davis wrote:
I don't think there's any question in typography circles or in usability
circles that proportional fonts are more readable than fixed width
fonts.
On this, I agree 100%. But when did we switch from e-mail to typography?
I use TeX
On Sat, Nov 24, 2012 at 09:16:22AM +, Tony's unattended mail wrote:
On 2012-11-23, Jim Graham spooky1...@gmail.com wrote:
On Fri, Nov 23, 2012 at 09:47:46PM +, Tony's unattended mail wrote:
BTW, sending a variable width format allows for 72 character
rendering, so these dated
On Sat, Nov 24, 2012 at 11:01:16AM -0500, Peter Davis wrote:
Excuse me if I've misinterpreted your question again
You have. Oh well.
Later,
--jim
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spooky1...@gmail.com
On Sat, Nov 24, 2012 at 09:58:03AM -0600, Derek Martin wrote:
Stop right there... reread what he said. We're not talking about
variable width *fonts* -- we're talking about variable width
*formats*, like flowed formatting.
Yes, I read that in a previous post. That will happen sometimes.
On Sat, Nov 24, 2012 at 11:49:26AM -0600, Derek Martin wrote:
I repeat what I said in an earlier message in this thread. HTML is
best for handling this. But the matter is not that simple, and for
those of us who love Mutt, it's currently not (pratically speaking) an
option at all, for
On Sat, Nov 24, 2012 at 03:43:21AM +1300, Chris Bannister wrote:
On Wed, Nov 21, 2012 at 01:21:18PM -0600, Jim Graham wrote:
Interesting, considering that Unix doesn't use CR/LF ... it uses a single
newline instead. So I suppose that means that the entire e-mail, from
the From line
On Fri, Nov 23, 2012 at 09:47:46PM +, Tony's unattended mail wrote:
BTW, sending a variable width format allows for 72 character
rendering, so these dated ergonomics studies are not at odds with an
unwrapped source text anyway.
Two questions about variable width fonts, then
First,
On Sat, Nov 24, 2012 at 01:45:42AM +0100, Andre Kl?rner wrote:
On Fri, Nov 23, 2012 at 05:04:38PM -0600, Jim Graham wrote:
Two questions about variable width fonts, then
First, how does Mutt do with variable width fonts? I gather that it does
handle them, but how? My version
On Thu, Nov 22, 2012 at 12:09:17AM +1300, Chris Bannister wrote:
Because there are no CR/LF in a paragraph then it is treated all as one
line.
Interesting, considering that Unix doesn't use CR/LF ... it uses a single
newline instead. So I suppose that means that the entire e-mail, from
the
On Wed, Nov 21, 2012 at 05:02:50PM +, Tony's unattended mail wrote:
LF means begin next line now. So as an author posting text to a
forum, at what point do you need an LF? Not after XX width, because
that makes poor assumptions about the readers medium (is it an LCD, or
a phone?).
So
On Wed, Nov 21, 2012 at 07:03:07AM +, Jamie Paul Griffin wrote:
I, like David do prefer vi over vim not that it's especially relevent,
so this is great. Being set-up immediately here :-) thanks guys
I'm going to post this one (two-part) comment on preferred editors..
The right/best
On Tue, Nov 20, 2012 at 09:02:11PM +, Jamie Paul Griffin wrote:
+--+--+-+--+
|Year | Hurricane | Deaths | Location |
|1780 | Great Hurricane of 1780| 27,500+ |
On Tue, Nov 20, 2012 at 05:51:40PM -0600, Derek Martin wrote:
Top posting almost invariably requires me to re-read WAY more of the
previous thread than I would have had to if the user posted in line
and trimmed quoted text appropriately. And on top of that, you have
to read, in chunks,
On Tue, Nov 20, 2012 at 02:57:00PM -0800, Jeremy Kitchen wrote:
I really can't believe I'm about to say this, but:
HTML solves this problem entirely.
There, I said it.
If you keep track, you'll probably find, as I have, that HTML-only
e-mail is between 99% to 100% spam. I send those to
On Wed, Oct 24, 2012 at 06:09:03AM +0300, Alex Efros wrote:
Mutt variable: set markers
It enabled, will show + sign at beginning of each wrapped line (using
different color, to make clear that + is mutt's special thing, not part
of email text).
THANKS! That little '+' has been annoying the
On Thu, Sep 27, 2012 at 12:07:51PM -0500, Luis Mochan wrote:
On Wed, Sep 26, 2012 at 11:06:00PM +0200, Ambrevar wrote:
I don't recall any problem reading with Android 2.1 mail sent by
mutt. I use K-9 as my Android mail client in my phone.
Best regards,
My fellows recently let me aware of
On Wed, Sep 19, 2012 at 03:54:48PM +1000, m...@raf.org wrote:
at least my Mutt 1.5.21 (2010-09-15) on my ubuntu-11.04 system at home
can render it but my Mutt 1.5.20 (2009-06-14) on a debian-6.0 system
doesn't render it at all. that's odd. they have the same compile options
but different
On Wed, Sep 19, 2012 at 11:02:49PM +1000, m...@raf.org wrote: > Jim Graham wrote: > > > On Wed, Sep 19, 2012 at 03:54:48PM +1000, m...@raf.org wrote: > > > check the email headers. i tried the above and the resulting email > still had the usual Content-Type: text/plain;
On Wed, Sep 19, 2012 at 08:12:25AM -0500, Jim Graham wrote:
Ok, I just did that. Now let's see if this is bold or if this is
underlined.
One thing I don't remember is how to specify colors
I also forgot that the usual line breaks go awayand how to
make line breaks. What a mess
I'm not sure of the exact year, but somewhere around 1996--1997, I was
using an e-mail markup language that was similar in some respects to
html, but it wasn't html. It was limited to simple text markup such
as bold, simple colors, *maybe* italic and underline (don't remember),
and if I remeember
On Wed, Sep 19, 2012 at 02:32:59PM +1000, m...@raf.org wrote:
m...@raf.org wrote:
Jim Graham wrote:
I'm not sure of the exact year, but somewhere around 1996--1997, I was
using an e-mail markup language that was similar in some respects to
html, but it wasn't html. It was limited
On Tue, Jul 24, 2012 at 06:29:33PM +0100, Joe McCool wrote:
On Tue, Jul 24, 2012 at 6:19 PM, stargr...@stargrave.org wrote:
Thanks to all the Mutt developers, contributors, and user
community. Mutt is a great app! It doesn't suck at all.
Joining in! Really, Mutt is absolutely the
On Wed, Jul 25, 2012 at 04:17:59AM -0500, Jim Graham wrote:
As will I. :-)
Forgot one thing: I've been using Mutt since right around the time
it went from alpha to beta status, ca 1995, I think, and have never
had even the slightest regret. It has, simply, always been the
best for me
On Wed, Jul 25, 2012 at 01:00:28AM +0200, Andre Kl?rner wrote:
Well, what do you mean with that? I also noticed that sometimes the
fullscreen running mutt looks a bit unusual when you use 80 of your 250
columns. But how would you think could one make it better?
I'm not sure what you're
On Wed, Jul 25, 2012 at 11:11:03AM +1000, Cameron Simpson wrote:
On 24Jul2012 15:20, Aaron Toponce aaron.topo...@gmail.com wrote:
| - No ability to change signatures when changing accounts automatically.
Well, mutt doesn't have accounts. It has individual settings for a
bunch of things,
On Wed, Jul 25, 2012 at 08:48:08AM +, John Long wrote:
Guys, what are you using for killfiling/mail filtering?
procmail. There's no substitute, IMHO.
Later,
--jim
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73 DE N5IAL (/4) | Peter da Silva: No, try rm -rf /
spooky1...@gmail.com
On Sun, May 13, 2012 at 03:26:15PM +0400, Alexander Gattin wrote:
Hello,
I use msmtp vs several email accounts (1 personal and 2 corporate).
I had zero luck getting msmtp to work, but found it very easy to
configure Mutt to handle it (once I got the right options to pass
to configure before
On Sun, May 13, 2012 at 01:15:23PM +0100, Koralatov wrote:
On Sun, May 13, 2012 at 12:37, Jim Graham wrote:
Especially after I tracked down a copy of the O'Reilly on sendmail
:-( That's the one I had (at an old job...it was the company's copy,
not mine) ... and really wish I STILL had. Sigh
On Sun, May 13, 2012 at 04:18:53PM -0400, David J. Weller-Fahy wrote:
* Cameron Simpson c...@zip.com.au [2012-05-12 20:26 -0400]:
Wow...I never thought my little question would generate all of this!
Lots of great (even if off-topic for the list) info. Thanks.
I use the mutt from MacPorts
On Mon, May 14, 2012 at 09:48:49AM +1000, Cameron Simpson wrote:
On 13May2012 03:32, Indulekha indule...@theunworthy.com wrote:
| On Sat, May 12, 2012 at 09:04:00PM -0500, Jim Graham wrote:
| Ok... Why does mutt-users not show up as a list with your posts,
| and works for all others? I've
On Mon, May 14, 2012 at 09:53:57AM +1000, Cameron Simpson wrote:
On 13May2012 16:18, David J. Weller-Fahy
dave-lists-mutt-us...@weller-fahy.com wrote:
We should point out to Jim that these are all independent. He can
install the lot, and pick and choose. Personally I recommend he does.
One
On Mon, May 14, 2012 at 10:13:38AM +1000, Cameron Simpson wrote:
eg you've been offline for a week and need to suck down thousands of
messages).
My FreeBSD system only gets shut down when the power goes out AND
doesn't come back up before I get to the console and type shutdown -h
now.
Later,
I'm going to be replacing my old, rapidly dying systems with a
Mac next month, and am wondering if anyone here has used Mutt
on Mac OS X (Lion). I'm curious about how that's working out,
etc. (I've never actually SEEN Mac OS X, so I don't know how
much of the Unix base is still there).
Thanks,
On Sat, May 12, 2012 at 07:03:29PM -0500, Indulekha wrote:
On Sat, May 12, 2012 at 06:51:52PM -0500, Jim Graham wrote:
I'm curious about how that's working out, etc.
I used to, a few years ago. Good guide here:
http://linsec.ca/opensearch_desc.php
On Sun, May 13, 2012 at 12:22:49AM +0100, Koralatov wrote:
As for OS X's Unix base: I'm not at all experienced, or even
particularly knowledgeable, about Unix, but it appears pretty intact to
me. The biggest difference I've discovered from other *nixen is that it's
deprecated cron in
On Sun, May 13, 2012 at 10:23:53AM +1000, Cameron Simpson wrote:
I use the mutt from MacPorts (WELL worth installing - very easy and
gives you access to a HUGE suite of common UNIX tools). If you install
MacPorts it is important to use mutt-devel instead of mutt as the
package name; the
On Sat, May 12, 2012 at 07:34:29PM -0500, Jim Graham wrote:
I'm also going to have to (hopefully) remember
the set of options I set to use Gmail to SEND mail, and fetchmail to
get mail, and procmail as my MDA/mail filter.
sendmail---it's been a LONG time since configuring sendmail
Ummm
Just a quick comment on a .sig
On Sun, May 13, 2012 at 10:23:53AM +1000, Cameron Simpson wrote:
Mac OS X. Because making Unix user-friendly is easier than debugging
Windows.
1) Unix is user-friendly. It's just finicky about who its friends are.
2) Unix is by far the most user-friendly OS
Ok... Why does mutt-users not show up as a list with your posts,
and works for all others? I've never seen this happen before with
Mutt and lists.
On Sun, May 13, 2012 at 11:39:00AM +1000, Cameron Simpson wrote:
On 12May2012 19:39, Jim Graham spooky1...@gmail.com wrote:
Simple enough
On Sat, May 12, 2012 at 10:01:03PM -0400, Ravi Pina wrote:
That and I haven't figured out how to save custom words to a aspell
dictionary. I also haven't spent much time on it either after it
wasn't immediately obvious how to do it.
I'd offer to help, but I use ispell (when I remember
On Sun, May 13, 2012 at 12:40:27PM +1000, Cameron Simpson wrote:
and I miss my infinite desktops setup I use under FVWM). I do turn off
the when switching to an app, switch to a desktop with its window
setting in the spaces prefs.
Ok, here's a question for you: can I use ctwm for my window
On Sat, Jan 14, 2012 at 02:34:55PM -0500, Patrick Shanahan wrote:
R and L seem to function the same for lists where I am
subscribed. The only way w/o directly entering the addressee to Reply
to the individual is to use Group and delete the cc: address.
What has changed recently that would
On Fri, Oct 21, 2011 at 09:14:20AM -0400, Patrick Shanahan wrote:
* Jim Graham spooky1...@gmail.com [10-21-11 09:02]:
I'm on several e-mail lists, and none of them send me
copies of my own e-mail (nor do they offer that option).
iianm, it is gmail that is not providing you with copies
Ok
Oops...accidentally did a 'r'eplay, not 'L'ist reply
- Forwarded message from Jim Graham spooky1...@gmail.com -
Date: Sat, 22 Oct 2011 08:14:25 -0500
From: Jim Graham spooky1...@gmail.com
To: Michael Graham mich...@skky.org
Subject: Re: add Bcc for lists but not regular e-mail
I did it again...regular reply instead of a list reply
My chemobrain (brain nuked by two types of chemotherapy, both very
hard on the brain, plus tumors, plus three brain surgeries, plus
max-dose radiation ... I do at least have an excuse!)
On Sat, Oct 22, 2011 at 02:30:13PM +0100,
On Sat, Oct 22, 2011 at 02:30:13PM +0100, Michael Graham wrote:
Perhaps something like this may work for you:
send-hook @mutt.org pushedit-bcckill-liney...@address.comEnter
No Bcc. It didn't work.:-(
Later,
--jim
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73 DE N5IAL (/4)| DMR: So
Interesting... List reply doesn't work if the list is CCd,
and not in the From: field. I never noticed that before.
On Sat, Oct 22, 2011 at 11:35:41AM -0500, David Champion wrote:
I haven't tried this and it's only off the cuff, but perhaps a
send2-hook setting $sendmail would work:
I
I'm on several e-mail lists, and none of them send me copies of my
own e-mail (nor do they offer that option). The strange thing is,
this only started to happen when I upgraded to 1.5.21 and set p
proper authentication with gmail's SMTP server (I use fetchmail
and procmail for incoming from the
As the subject line says...is there ay possibility of either
a direct port of Mutt, or at least something similar, for the
Android?
I'm not sure if this qualifies as an absurd question or not
(I'm thinking it probably is, but I've been surprised enough
times now with Android apps that mimic
On Fri, Oct 21, 2011 at 06:11:31AM -0700, Ray Van Dolson wrote:
On Fri, Oct 21, 2011 at 06:05:56AM -0700, Jim Graham wrote:
Man, that sounds pretty painful. mutt is so keyboard dependent and
unless you had a physical keyboard on your Android device, the mutt
folks would have to do a lot
I've been trying to get Mutt 1.5.21 working directly with Gmail (only
for outgoing e-mail---I already have fetchmail working nicely via cron
for incoming e-mail), and am down to what I believe is the last step:
getting SASL into the build.
There's just one problem Based on what I've read on
Ok, ok I can already hear the heckling starting, and this e-mail
hasn't even left my system yet :-) But for those of us who
have to use a windoze box at work, this might be useful information,
so it's time to de-lurk and post what I've gotten done so far.
This is a preliminary look
On Sat, Jun 05, 1999 at 09:21:39PM -0500, phuzz phactor wrote:
would someone be kind enough to explain how I use filters with mutt?
i'm trying to sort my mail into different folders based on different
You use filters (and from reading your previous post, I gather you mean
procmail, and that
On Mon, Jun 07, 1999 at 08:03:38AM -0500, Jim Graham wrote:
Now, as to how you use filters, lots of others have provided links to
the procmail web page(s), etc.,
I just took a closer look at the responses I mentioned above, and I'm
correcting one error myself: make that ftp sites, not web
On Thu, May 27, 1999 at 01:01:52AM -0700, Kim DeVaughn wrote:
On Wed, May 26, 1999, Brandon Long ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) said:
|
| some people like slrn, though I could never get past the single
| pager/index thing. Others like tin. Personally, if I'm not using
| mutt+nntp, I use nn.
And
On Sun, May 02, 1999 at 09:58:57PM +0200, Roland Rosenfeld wrote:
On Sun, 02 May 1999, David Resnick wrote:
I recieve mail from MS-Outlook clients with attachments that I
cannot access. Mutt displays these attachments in the body of the
email, like this:
[non-standard uuencoded
When I do a group-reply from Mutt, it seems that roughly half of the
time, I end up being CC'd in that reply. I'm already saving a copy
of outbound e-mail, so this is (IMHO) a complete waste. Is there a
way to turn that off that I missed while RTFMing...actually, I guess
that should be RingTFM,
On Thu, Apr 15, 1999 at 02:14:55PM -0500, David DeSimone wrote:
Jim Graham [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
When I do a group-reply from Mutt, it seems that roughly half of the
time, I end up being CC'd in that reply.
Mutt removes your name from the list of respondents if it can determine
On Tue, Feb 02, 1999 at 12:27:07PM -0600, David DeSimone wrote:
The name you're looking for is "envelope separator", I believe. :)
[]
The information stored there comes from the "envelope" of the message.
The From: header is a cosmetic header stored in your message, but the
On Wed, Feb 03, 1999 at 10:52:38AM -0500, Stan Ryckman wrote:
Jim Graham wrote:
incoming via UUCP -- sendmail -- procmail -- disk
At some point between the message being received via UUCP and procmail
actually starting to work with it, the original envelope "From "
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