Re: mutt IMAP configuration for outlook.office365.com

2020-03-12 Thread Sam Kuper
On Wed, Mar 11, 2020 at 06:55:14PM -0500, Greg Marks wrote: > my university e-mail account [..] uses outlook.office365.com [..] Commiserations. Universities used to be capable of hosting their own email servers. > It would be great to get some authoritative guidance on this! Here is my

Re: mutt IMAP configuration for outlook.office365.com

2020-03-12 Thread Sam Kuper
On Thu, Mar 12, 2020 at 02:32:13PM -0500, Greg Marks wrote: > Dear Mr. Kuper, Please don't address me as "Mr", but anyhow... >> I would suggest attempting the same workaround that you used for the >> IMAP password. I.e. escape the dollar sign in the smtp_pass field >> with a backslash. > >

Re: Going GUI...er

2020-04-10 Thread Sam Kuper
On Thu, Apr 09, 2020 at 09:32:01AM -0500, Derek Martin wrote: > On Wed, Apr 08, 2020 at 01:17:12PM +0100, Sam Kuper wrote: >> On Tue, Apr 07, 2020 at 09:23:34PM -0500, Derek Martin wrote: >>> Sorry, but this is an archaic way of looking at the problem. >>> People have

Re: Going GUI...er

2020-04-08 Thread Sam Kuper
On Wed, Apr 08, 2020 at 03:08:45PM -0400, Ben Boeckel wrote: > On Wed, Apr 08, 2020 at 14:43:47 -0400, Kurt Hackenberg wrote: >> On 2020-04-07 22:18, Derek Martin wrote: >> >>> Then again, maybe I should just move everything to gmail and be done >>> with it. >> >> Please remember that Google

Re: Going GUI...er

2020-04-20 Thread Sam Kuper
On Fri, Apr 17, 2020 at 06:08:37PM -0500, Derek Martin wrote: > On Fri, Apr 10, 2020 at 01:09:12PM +0100, Sam Kuper wrote: >> On Thu, Apr 09, 2020 at 09:32:01AM -0500, Derek Martin wrote: >>> On Wed, Apr 08, 2020 at 01:17:12PM +0100, Sam Kuper wrote: >>>> On Tue, Ap

Re: Going GUI...er

2020-04-08 Thread Sam Kuper
On Tue, Apr 07, 2020 at 09:18:37PM -0500, Derek Martin wrote: > I've said it before--I too would love a mutt-based (or mutt-similar) > GUI mail client. Frankly, no matter how much I love Mutt (and you > know I do), trying to make the case that Mutt's handling of modern, > every-day common e-mail

Re: Going GUI...er

2020-04-08 Thread Sam Kuper
On Tue, Apr 07, 2020 at 09:23:34PM -0500, Derek Martin wrote: > On Sun, Apr 05, 2020 at 12:09:55AM +0100, Sam Kuper wrote: >> I'll assume you mean that the email has multiple parts or >> attachments, one (or more) of which is an HTML file and one (or more) >> of w

Re: Going GUI...er

2020-04-04 Thread Sam Kuper
On Sat, Apr 04, 2020 at 09:41:59AM +0200, Vegard Svanberg wrote: > I'm increasingly finding myself having to resort to various tricks to > deal with HTML only emails (with picture attachments), calendar > invites, and other oddities and awkward stuff people send. AKA "stuff awkward people send"

Re: Going GUI...er

2020-04-05 Thread Sam Kuper
On Sun, Apr 05, 2020 at 10:47:56AM +1000, raf wrote: > For other document attachments, I use various mailcap > filters to render things as text such as catdoc, > xls2csv, mutt.octet.filter and mutt.vcard.filter by > David A Pearson, vcalendar-filter by Martyn Smith etc. I knew about some of

Re: Going GUI...er

2020-04-05 Thread Sam Kuper
On Sat, Apr 04, 2020 at 07:18:42PM +0200, steve wrote: > I can display images, read pdf's, etc… but one thing I never managed > to do is open an html file containing images. I mean, I can send the > html part to firefox but the images don't follow. > > How do you guys cope with that? Depends

Re: Going GUI...er

2020-04-05 Thread Sam Kuper
On Sun, Apr 05, 2020 at 04:43:20PM -0400, Fred Smith wrote: > On Sun, Apr 05, 2020 at 12:45:09PM -0700, Felix Finch wrote: >> On 20200405, Akkana Peck wrote: >> >Is there any way to configure mutt to alert me at the top of the >> >message if there are any text/calendar or image/* attachments >>

Re: Going GUI...er

2020-04-05 Thread Sam Kuper
On Sun, Apr 05, 2020 at 01:08:05PM -0700, m...@amrx.net wrote: > On Sun, Apr 05, 2020 at 08:48:35PM +0100, Sam Kuper wrote: >> If/when it becomes possible to RSVP, in a machine-readable fashion >> directly from Mutt, to calendar-invites-sent-via-email, I'll switch >> to that.

Re: Going GUI...er

2020-04-05 Thread Sam Kuper
On Sun, Apr 05, 2020 at 08:05:29AM -0700, m...@amrx.net wrote: > Truly, sending the human an E-Mail, to read, is a great response, but > could trigger a frustrating conversation about auto populating > calendar items, be prepared to defend your mutt way of life. Been there, done that. Several

Re: Going GUI...er

2020-04-05 Thread Sam Kuper
On Sat, Apr 04, 2020 at 09:06:13AM -0700, Felix Finch wrote: > On 20200404, Sam Kuper wrote: >>This ~/.mailcap works tolerably under Gnome [...] > > I've been using something similar for several years, and one thing > missing from this is a way to respond to invites. Perhaps

Re: Going GUI...er

2020-04-28 Thread Sam Kuper
On Thu, Apr 23, 2020 at 03:52:53PM -0500, Derek Martin wrote: > On Mon, Apr 20, 2020 at 03:49:46PM +0100, Sam Kuper wrote: >> On Fri, Apr 17, 2020 at 06:08:37PM -0500, Derek Martin wrote: >>> On Fri, Apr 10, 2020 at 01:09:12PM +0100, Sam Kuper wrote: >>>> On Thu, Ap

Re: Going GUI...er

2020-04-28 Thread Sam Kuper
On Tue, Apr 28, 2020 at 06:57:14PM +0100, Sam Kuper wrote: > On Thu, Apr 23, 2020 at 03:52:53PM -0500, Derek Martin wrote: >> On Mon, Apr 20, 2020 at 03:49:46PM +0100, Sam Kuper wrote: > If you want to read my emails [...] By which I meant "If you want to read emails

Re: Elimination of mime/html part

2020-04-30 Thread Sam Kuper
On Thu, Apr 30, 2020 at 08:54:25AM +0200, Angel M Alganza wrote: > [...] I've been looking for ways to remove the text/html part [...] > > Is there an automated way that you know of to get that done? Or do > you know of any third party program that could help me out? Python and some other

Re: Going GUI...er

2020-05-02 Thread Sam Kuper
On Sat, May 02, 2020 at 04:16:45PM -, Grant Edwards wrote: > Insisting that the world switch from HTML to plaintext for e-mail is > just tilting at a windmill. I don't insist that the world switch from HTML to plaintext. I do ask that, at least, compatibility be maintained. (By a similar

Re: Inconvenient Signature Requirements

2020-05-04 Thread Sam Kuper
On Mon, May 04, 2020 at 03:54:09PM -0500, Kevin Monceaux wrote: > My employer is trying to force me to downgrade to Outlook. One of the > powers that be came up with the brilliant idea of having a standard > company signature, with logo, specific font requirements, etc. Is > there any way to

Re: Going GUI...er

2020-04-29 Thread Sam Kuper
On Wed, Apr 29, 2020 at 08:56:16AM -0400, Mark H. Wood wrote: > Two cultures in contact, which do not share customs and manners, can > disengage; they can fight; or they can agree on protocols that they > *will* share, even though the protocols make no sense *within* either > culture. > > So how

Re: Syntax for creating Muttrc.

2020-10-02 Thread Sam Kuper
On Thu, Oct 01, 2020 at 10:01:56PM -0700, Will Yardley wrote: > On Thu, Oct 01, 2020 at 09:58:17PM -0700, M.R.P. zensky wrote: >> Can someone tell me the syntax for creating a Muttrc file on linux? I >> have installed it on linux and am trying to understand how to >> configure it. > > man 5

Re: Can mutt be persuaded to use a sensible maildir hierarchy?

2020-09-30 Thread Sam Kuper
On Tue, Sep 29, 2020 at 08:13:14AM +0100, Chris Green wrote: > On Mon, Sep 28, 2020 at 05:48:38PM -0500, Derek Martin wrote: >> I confess to some curiosity here... What are you doing in your >> home-grown MDA, that you could not already do with procmail, which >> (if you're on a Linux system at

Re: Can mutt be persuaded to use a sensible maildir hierarchy?

2020-09-30 Thread Sam Kuper
On Wed, Sep 23, 2020 at 09:04:11AM +0100, Chris Green wrote: > On Wed, Sep 23, 2020 at 09:44:22AM +1000, raf wrote: >> On Tue, Sep 22, 2020 at 06:30:52PM +0100, Chris Green wrote: >>> On Tue, Sep 22, 2020 at 05:46:53PM +0100, Chris Green wrote: Is there some way I can get to use real

Re: Can mutt be persuaded to use a sensible maildir hierarchy?

2020-10-01 Thread Sam Kuper
On Wed, Sep 30, 2020 at 04:39:52PM +0100, Chris Green wrote: > On Wed, Sep 30, 2020 at 03:20:50PM +0100, Sam Kuper wrote: >> On Wed, Sep 30, 2020 at 02:18:08PM +0100, Chris Green wrote: >>> I've attached them here anyway. >> >> Thanks :) Would you be willing to

Re: Can mutt be persuaded to use a sensible maildir hierarchy?

2020-09-30 Thread Sam Kuper
On Wed, Sep 30, 2020 at 02:18:08PM +0100, Chris Green wrote: > On Wed, Sep 30, 2020 at 12:03:41PM +0100, Sam Kuper wrote: >> On Tue, Sep 29, 2020 at 08:13:14AM +0100, Chris Green wrote: >>> On Mon, Sep 28, 2020 at 05:48:38PM -0500, Derek Martin wrote: >>>> I confess t

Re: support for Office365?

2020-09-27 Thread Sam Kuper
On Sun, Sep 27, 2020 at 10:16:07AM -0400, Spackman, Chris wrote: > On 2020/09/27 at 12:05pm, ed neville wrote: >> Just out of interest, does anyone know /why/ organisations, in their >> rampant desire to outsource to the cloud disable IMAP and SMTP >> protocols whilst doing that? Is something to

Re: support for Office365?

2020-09-27 Thread Sam Kuper
On Fri, Jun 26, 2020 at 02:20:25PM -0400, Andrew D. Arenson wrote: > My organization is moving to Office365 and have decided, sadly, not to > support IMAP. > > Anyone have insight in how mutt might still be able to connect to > Office365? > > A co-worker has been investigating a project called

Re: mutt for office 365 mfa

2020-06-10 Thread Sam Kuper
On Wed, Jun 10, 2020 at 02:09:17PM -0400, Scott Brozell wrote: > The organization i work for has forced on us office 365 multi factor > authentication. In addition to outlook duo they are supporting > evolution and have setup a tenant and application id for it. > Is it possible to use those with

Re: Mutt - a scriptable email client?

2020-06-09 Thread Sam Kuper
On Tue, Jun 09, 2020 at 11:06:57AM +0100, Sam Kuper wrote: > On Tue, Jun 09, 2020 at 10:36:28AM +0200, Bastian wrote: >> On 09Jun20 09:51+0200, Kia Niskavaara wrote: >>> I'm looking for a scriptable email client for linux cli. >>> Specifically I need to connect it to

Re: Mutt - a scriptable email client?

2020-06-09 Thread Sam Kuper
On Tue, Jun 09, 2020 at 10:36:28AM +0200, Bastian wrote: > On 09Jun20 09:51+0200, Kia Niskavaara wrote: >> I'm looking for a scriptable email client for linux cli. Specifically >> I need to connect it to a Gmail account using IMAP IDLE so that I >> will be able to find new emails almost

Macro to mark as "read" and then archive

2020-07-28 Thread Sam Kuper
Dear Mutt nuts, I wanted a Mutt macro that met the following desiderata: 1. Allows the user to choose, at each invocation, whether to apply the macro: - to only the current message (by simply running the macro); or instead - to currently-tagged messages (by pressing the

Re: Is it possible to change/add headers to incoming mail?

2020-12-09 Thread Sam Kuper
On Wed, Dec 09, 2020 at 03:23:20AM -0500, Philippe Meunier wrote: > raf wrote: >> for mail delivered locally, procmail could do it. > > procmail is not a good option anymore, and has not been for a while > now: > https://marc.info/?l=openbsd-ports=141634350915839 Debian continues to make

Re: mutt 2.0.0 released

2020-11-07 Thread Sam Kuper
On Sat, Nov 07, 2020 at 01:46:16PM -0800, Kevin J. McCarthy wrote: > My thanks to [the contributors], and to all the others who helped by > submitting tickets, testing, doing translation, and just providing > moral support. :-) Mutt is one of a tiny handful of habitable islands in the raging sea

Re: Truncated link in html email

2021-02-10 Thread Sam Kuper
On Mon, Feb 08, 2021 at 07:23:16PM -0600, boB Stepp wrote: > On 21/02/08 07:04PM, boB Stepp wrote: >> Just now I came across one of those html emails that Mutt + urlview >> does not seem to be able to handle. This was an email from the >> clinic I go to that has embedded a "CLICK TO CHECK-IN"

Re: My experiences with Mutt to date: Suggestions for overcoming some issues

2021-02-10 Thread Sam Kuper
On Mon, Feb 08, 2021 at 02:43:48PM -0600, boB Stepp wrote: > Today's task is to understand and install/configure "notmuch" to > search through this locally stored mail. Notmuch is quite nice in some ways, but (as Dan Bernstein kindly pointed out to me a couple of years ago), it probably isn't

Re: simple formatting possibilities

2021-02-16 Thread Sam Kuper
On Mon, Aug 31, 2020 at 01:06:48PM -0400, Mark H. Wood wrote: > Things like HTML and PDF are designed for finalized documents. PDF, yes. But historically, TimBL very much designed HTML for revisable documents. (Sadly, as was already pointed out earlier in the thread, many people are unwilling

Mailman strips subject from DMARC messages (was: Re: Fwd:)

2021-02-16 Thread Sam Kuper
On Sat, Oct 24, 2020 at 12:49:12PM -0700, Kevin J. McCarthy wrote: > On Sat, Oct 24, 2020 at 12:24:23PM -0700, Kevin J. McCarthy wrote: >> On Sat, Oct 24, 2020 at 02:04:11PM -0400, Remco Rijnders wrote: >>> Unfortunately, the subject of such messages seems to get cleared. I >>> don't think this is

Re: Marking as unread when moving mail to another folder

2021-02-16 Thread Sam Kuper
On Thu, Jul 16, 2020 at 10:57:13AM +0200, Kai Weber wrote: > I have a save-hook defined to move all mail into a certain folder. > > save-hook "~A" +personal/Archive > > Very often I want to move the mail into the archive without opening the > mail at all but then the mail ends up as unread

Re: Deleting old maildir messages, is what I'm doing OK?

2021-02-15 Thread Sam Kuper
On Mon, Feb 15, 2021 at 06:00:47PM +, Chris Green wrote: > It's odd that none of the "maildir works like this" descriptions I > could find had anything about deleting mails. I agree. That's an unfortunate gap in the literature. -- A: When it messes up the order in which people normally

Re: [unixbhas...@gmail.com: Notify-send pop up for specific mails]

2021-02-14 Thread Sam Kuper
On Sun, Feb 14, 2021 at 11:24:59AM +1100, Cameron Simpson wrote: > On 13Feb2021 19:29, Bhaskar Chowdhury wrote: >> How?? Show us...share with the people .. > > I collect my email with getmail, deliver to my local "+spool" mail > folder, a Maildir (~/mail/spool). > > I filter my messages using

Re: My experiences with Mutt to date: Suggestions for overcoming some issues

2021-02-14 Thread Sam Kuper
On Sun, Feb 14, 2021 at 10:25:21AM +0100, Angel M Alganza wrote: > msmtp-queue -r -- runs (flushes) all the contents of the queue > > Try running 'msmtp-queue -r' at your shell. It should trigger sending. > > Adding 'msmtp-queue -r' as a cron job should do it automatically. Exactly. If you

Re: Should I have all my mailing lists in both 'lists' and 'subscribe'?

2021-02-15 Thread Sam Kuper
On Mon, Feb 15, 2021 at 01:04:15PM +, ಚಿರಾಗ್ ನಟರಾಜ್ wrote: > 12021/01/05 03:27.03 ನಲ್ಲಿ, Chris Green ಬರೆದರು: >> Currently I automatically add all mailing lists I am subscribed to >> into my muttrc file against both 'lists' and 'subscribe', is this >> correct/OK? >> >> I've never been quite

Re: Deleting old maildir messages, is what I'm doing OK?

2021-02-15 Thread Sam Kuper
On Mon, Feb 15, 2021 at 04:21:11PM +, Chris Green wrote: > This isn't specifically mutt but it's definitely to do with managing > mail and there's lots of knowledgeable people here. > > I currently have the following two lines in my crontab to delete old > mails in my junk catching

Re: My experiences with Mutt to date: Suggestions for overcoming some issues

2021-02-13 Thread Sam Kuper
On Fri, Feb 12, 2021 at 01:30:04PM +0100, Angel M Alganza wrote: > On Mon, Feb 01, 2021 at 04:34:47PM -, Grant Edwards wrote: >> I maintained a local queueing MTA for many years, but after multiple >> screwups where mail wasn't getting sent (and I didn't find out in a >> timely manner) I

Re: Dead url, returning 404 in wiki under configlist/Configs

2021-02-13 Thread Sam Kuper
On Fri, Feb 12, 2021 at 09:45:41AM -0800, Kevin J. McCarthy wrote: > On Fri, Feb 12, 2021 at 02:25:44PM +0530, Bhaskar Chowdhury wrote: >> Please take out the dead url from the Configlist page under Configs > > Thanks, I've removed the dead link. > > Note, to anyone else: although the wiki is

Re: UserPages dead url ..the first one the page

2021-02-13 Thread Sam Kuper
On Sat, Feb 13, 2021 at 06:59:04AM +0530, Bhaskar Chowdhury wrote: > On this page : https://gitlab.com/muttmua/mutt/-/wikis/UserPages > > The url: http://mutt.justpickone.org/ -- David T-G > > While clicking on the url Showing: > > "Error resolving “mutt.justpickone.org”: Name or service not

Re: My experiences with Mutt to date: Suggestions for overcoming some issues

2021-02-13 Thread Sam Kuper
On Sun, Feb 14, 2021 at 11:00:45AM +1100, Cameron Simpson wrote: > On 13Feb2021 20:03, Sam Kuper wrote: >> A queue script is included with msmtp, so you can have the best of >> both worlds :) >> >> https://git.marlam.de/gitweb/?p=msmtp.git;a=blob_plain;f=scripts/m

Re: My experiences with Mutt to date: Suggestions for overcoming some issues

2021-02-13 Thread Sam Kuper
On Sun, Feb 14, 2021 at 02:43:32AM +0100, Angel M Alganza wrote: >On Sun, Feb 14, 2021 at 02:35:38AM +0100, Angel M Alganza wrote: >>On Sat, Feb 13, 2021 at 08:03:49PM +0000, Sam Kuper wrote: >>> On Fri, Feb 12, 2021 at 01:30:04PM +0100, Angel M Alganza wrote: >>>>

Re: How to generate html mime message?

2021-02-13 Thread Sam Kuper
On Fri, Feb 12, 2021 at 10:19:07PM -, Grant Edwards wrote: > After a couple years of that, they turned of the SMTP server, so you > can only use Outlook or the OWA web API. No more using mutt for > work... Off-topic, but DavMail might let you resume using Mutt at work. Or switch jobs, since

Re: OT: "domain-level" email hosting services?

2021-10-24 Thread Sam Kuper
On Fri, Oct 22, 2021 at 08:43:02PM -0400, Nathan Stratton Treadway wrote: > So on the theory that there are likely to be other users of advanced > email-server functionality among the Mutt folks, I thought I would ask > here to see if anyone has recommendations for mail hosting services > that

Re: pretty-print mutt emails

2021-11-23 Thread Sam Kuper
On Mon, Nov 22, 2021 at 12:47:10AM +, Globe Trotter via Mutt-users wrote: > What is the recommended way to pretty-print mutt emails? I found a > sourceforge perl script called muttprint but that was last updated in > 2008, and I was wondering what folks here recommended? On systems without a

Re: mutt 2.2.0 released

2022-02-13 Thread Sam Kuper
Thank you from me, too!

Re: Unexplained mutt error

2022-02-22 Thread Sam Kuper
On Tue, Feb 22, 2022 at 04:40:06PM -0600, Ion wrote: > Thanks to all of you for trying to solve my problem. But I have been > trying to setup mutt for nine days now. I have followed all your > advice and instructions to the best of my ability, to no avail. [...] > Much as I want to use a CLI

Re: How is this spam hiding from mutt search?

2022-02-01 Thread Sam Kuper
On Tue, Feb 01, 2022 at 10:16:51AM -0800, Kevin J. McCarthy wrote: > On Tue, Feb 01, 2022 at 10:36:29AM -0500, Ofer Inbar wrote: >> One feature they all share is that "support_id:" prefix in the fake >> email address. > > The ':' isn't allowed in the address local part, so I believe the mutt >

Re: Can one get at the current mailbox name (directory)?

2022-01-27 Thread Sam Kuper
On Thu, Jan 27, 2022 at 05:31:01PM +, Chris Green wrote: > Is there a way of accessing the current mailbox name (i.e. for maildir > the directory name) in mutt? IIRC, the caret symbol (^) can be used as a shortcut for the current mailbox. Possibly relevant sections of the manual:

Re: Colours aspell creating messages

2022-04-21 Thread Sam Kuper
On Thu, Apr 21, 2022 at 05:40:20AM +, Piet wrote: > Am 04/20/ schrieb Francesco Ariis: >> Il 20 aprile 2022 alle 12:54 Piet ha scritto: >>> I use Mutt with aspell to check my texts. >>> >>> Unfortunately the aspell dedections from potential errors are >>> highlighted so strong, that the

Re: New to Mutt, unable to send messages in *any* attempted way

2022-05-12 Thread Sam Kuper
On Wed, May 11, 2022 at 09:51:28PM +0100, Sam Kuper wrote: > Once you know your shell's quoting syntax, you will see that you can > probably achieve your goal in any of several different ways. Which to > use is a matter of taste. > > E.g. > > '/ho

Re: Mailcap selectively applying settings

2022-05-12 Thread Sam Kuper
On Thu, May 12, 2022 at 03:38:23PM -0400, Christopher Conforti wrote: > text/html lynx -dump %s | more > > is seemingly ignored, even when there are no other options given for > handling HTML. I may be wrong, but shouldn't there be a semicolon in that entry? I.e. text/html; lynx -dump

Re: ask-yes for sending?

2022-06-08 Thread Sam Kuper
On Tue, Jun 07, 2022 at 08:31:50PM +0200, Marcus C. Gottwald wrote: > bwalton.22...@leepfrog.com asked (Tue 2022-Jun-07 10:26:50 -0500): >> Is there a way to configure my muttrc so that when I press "y" to >> send the message, it will prompt for confirmation before actually >> sending? > > In

Re: ask-yes for sending?

2022-06-08 Thread Sam Kuper
On Tue, Jun 07, 2022 at 10:26:50AM -0500, bwalton.22...@leepfrog.com wrote: > Is there a way to configure my muttrc so that when I press "y" to send > the message, it will prompt for confirmation before actually sending? Instead of having Mutt invoke your MTA, you could have it invoke a script

Re: Mutt configuration tips

2022-06-14 Thread Sam Kuper
On Tue, Jun 14, 2022 at 03:26:47PM -0400, Christopher Conforti wrote: > * If you could give three tips to a new user, what would they be? Maybe these: - Try a bitmap font, for nice crisp text. (You may have to mess with your X or desktop or terminal configurations, to achieve this.

Re: too many useless warnings

2022-07-28 Thread Sam Kuper
On Wed, Jul 27, 2022 at 05:12:51PM +0100, Darac Marjal wrote: > On 27/07/2022 13:08, Fourhundred Thecat wrote: >> Hello, >> >> when I press key that is not bound, I get following warning in the >> lower left corner: >> >>   Key is not bound.  Press '?' for help. >> >> this is actually a helpful

Re: New to Mutt, unable to send messages in *any* attempted way

2022-05-07 Thread Sam Kuper
Hi X Tec, Not sure if you have read this web page? https://gitlab.com/muttmua/mutt/-/wikis/MailConcept You may find life simpler if, following the advice there, you apply the concept of "separation of concerns". https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Separation_of_concerns In other words: - use an

Re: New to Mutt, unable to send messages in *any* attempted way

2022-05-10 Thread Sam Kuper
On Mon, May 09, 2022 at 11:01:20PM -0500, x...@trimaso.com.mx wrote: > [...] In the end, I chose to begin with Msmtp instead of Postfix... > Why? Because after just installation, I realized that Postfix is kind > of "overkill" if just wanting to send: it's designed as a full-blown > server for

Re: New to Mutt, unable to send messages in *any* attempted way

2022-05-05 Thread Sam Kuper
On Thu, May 05, 2022 at 11:24:36AM -0500, x...@trimaso.com.mx wrote: > *Beforehand*, if you'll answer just with questions without advise, or > mock, just ban me better. I do have questions, but these are to help understand what might be going wrong. > printf "%b\n" "$msg" | mutt -s "Test

Re: New to Mutt, unable to send messages in *any* attempted way

2022-05-05 Thread Sam Kuper
On Thu, May 05, 2022 at 03:11:48PM -0500, x...@trimaso.com.mx wrote: > On Thu, May 05, 2022 at 12:07:44PM -0500, Kevin J. McCarthy wrote: >> 1) On the command line, the shell will expand shell variables inside >> double quoted strings, before Mutt even sees it. >> >> So in the part "set

Re: New to Mutt, unable to send messages in *any* attempted way

2022-05-11 Thread Sam Kuper
al in any of several different ways. Which to use is a matter of taste. E.g. '/home/.user.gpg' vs "~"'/.user.gpg' If you still find yourself stuck (or even if you don't), you might want to try using Pass as a wrapper around GPG: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pass_%28soft

Re: Visualising contents of a Maildir

2022-08-19 Thread Sam Kuper
On Fri, Aug 19, 2022 at 09:08:01AM +0200, martin f krafft via Mutt-users wrote: > Regarding the following, written by "Victor Goff" on 2022-08-18 at 20:09 Uhr > -0400: >> I have used https://tmate.io for those on Windows and those with a >> small amount of experience with computers in general.

Re: Having problems with POP3 setup

2022-08-30 Thread Sam Kuper
On Mon, Aug 29, 2022 at 03:14:21PM -0500, X Tec wrote: > I think I kind of sorted the "not a mailbox" issues: each mailbox > seems to have its own defined directory tree, which will give the > aforementioned error if not found, or will alternatively be created > but only when the mailbox is really

Re: Visualising contents of a Maildir

2022-08-18 Thread Sam Kuper
On Thu, Aug 18, 2022 at 10:10:38AM +0200, martin f krafft via Mutt-users wrote: > The reason I need this index is that I have to provide evidence of "a > huge volume of mails" on a given topic, without actually sharing the > emails. OK, but... > So I need a PDF index. That is a non-sequitur.

Re: Visualising contents of a Maildir

2022-08-18 Thread Sam Kuper
On Wed, Aug 17, 2022 at 04:59:41PM -0500, Derek Martin wrote: > On Wed, Aug 17, 2022 at 09:33:44PM +0000, Sam Kuper wrote: >> On Wed, Aug 17, 2022 at 09:22:31PM +0200, martin f krafft via Mutt-users >> wrote: >> > For reasons you don't want to know, >> >> You

Re: Visualising contents of a Maildir

2022-08-18 Thread Sam Kuper
On Thu, Aug 18, 2022 at 10:45:04AM +0100, Sam Kuper wrote: > If you find a lightweight markup language that has PDF output AND has > table markup tags that correspond one-to-one with the '|' filter's > ncurses strings, then you could use the `|` filter as Kevin proposes > abo

Re: Identifying messages with no To: or CC: headers?

2022-09-02 Thread Sam Kuper
On Fri, Sep 02, 2022 at 04:03:22PM -0400, John Hawkinson wrote: >> Could you not prepend your EXPR with something like this? >> >> `^(Delivered|Envelope)-To:\ ` > > I belive that you want this to be all-lowercase, because those headers > can be any case, and mutt will search

Re: Postponing and forwarding

2022-08-31 Thread Sam Kuper
On Wed, Aug 31, 2022 at 11:51:24AM -0500, X Tec wrote: > When composing an email, I decided to postpone instead of immediately > send. It got saved in Drafts folder, but when deciding to send it, I > opened the draft, but there's no "send" option; just the usual > respond, new email, and the other

Re: in search of OAuth2 tokens for Microsoft Office 365

2022-10-29 Thread Sam Kuper
On Wed, Oct 26, 2022 at 08:36:49PM -0600, Jon Brinkmann via Mutt-users wrote: > [...] I configured my university account to send copies of all my > email to my Apple iCloud mail, which does support app passwords. > > https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT202304 >

Re: The way mutt handles long lines, seems odd/wrong to me

2022-10-01 Thread Sam Kuper
On Sat, Oct 01, 2022 at 09:33:16AM +0100, Chris Green wrote: > On Sat, Oct 01, 2022 at 01:24:37PM +0800, Kevin J. McCarthy wrote: >> In [the] past, I've tried a few things to see if it has an effect on >> the output of long lines, but haven't found anything that makes a >> difference. In the end,

Re: Identifying messages with no To: or CC: headers?

2022-09-02 Thread Sam Kuper
On Fri, Sep 02, 2022 at 06:24:24PM +, Tim Chase wrote: > On 2022-09-02 20:07, Francesco Ariis wrote: >> Il 02 settembre 2022 alle 18:01 Tim Chase ha scritto: >>> However, often these messages don't have a To: or CC: header, so I >>> can't identify them with a ~C and I don't see an option for

Re: Having problems with POP3 setup

2022-09-02 Thread Sam Kuper
On Fri, Sep 02, 2022 at 01:11:53PM -0500, X Tec wrote: > On 2022-08-31 11:46:15, X Tec wrote: >> On 2022-08-30 18:34:42, Kevin J. McCarthy wrote: >>> On Mon, Aug 29, 2022 at 03:14:21PM -0500, X Tec wrote: Fetching email with 'G' key just ignores the "pop_last=yes" setting because it

Re: setting up subscribed groups

2022-08-05 Thread Sam Kuper
On Fri, Aug 05, 2022 at 07:19:34AM -0400, Jude DaShiell wrote: > Very basic question ahead. In man muttrc subscribe [group-name] > [regexp] [regexp] has two regexp entries beside it. how are those > used correctly to subscribe mutt-users and other groups? It's a bit unclear what you are asking.

Re: Using several SMTP servers

2022-08-11 Thread Sam Kuper
On Thu, Aug 11, 2022 at 06:23:56PM +0200, Sébastien Hinderer wrote: > So far I use exim4 to send e-mails but I didn't see a way to specify > which "smarthost" to use to send e-mails e.g. on the sendmail command > line. So, even if I could use mutt send hooks to choose which SMTP > configuration to

Re: Using several SMTP servers

2022-08-12 Thread Sam Kuper
On Fri, Aug 12, 2022 at 07:01:52PM +0200, Sébastien Hinderer wrote: > 1. Am I correct that it will be possible, when calling smstp-queue, to > specify which smarthost to use? > > In other words, am I correct that this will let me associate one smart > host (SMTP configuration) to each mail in the

Re: Using several SMTP servers

2022-08-12 Thread Sam Kuper
On Fri, Aug 12, 2022 at 04:05:55PM +0200, Sébastien Hinderer wrote: > Hello Sam, many thanks for your interesting response! :) > Sam Kuper (2022/08/11 17:43 +): >> Consider using msmtp for sending, and msmtp-queue for queueing: >> >> https://lists.mutt.org/pipermai

Re: Using several SMTP servers

2022-08-12 Thread Sam Kuper
On Fri, Aug 12, 2022 at 08:53:23PM +0200, Daniel Tameling wrote: > On Fri, Aug 12, 2022 at 03:58:02PM +0000, Sam Kuper wrote: >> - Test/tweak/re-test msmtp until working. (E.g. using Mutt or GNU >> Mailutils's `mail` command to send emails from the command-line, >>

Re: Using several SMTP servers

2022-08-12 Thread Sam Kuper
On Fri, Aug 12, 2022 at 10:57:41PM +0200, Sébastien Hinderer wrote: > As I see it, the SMTP configuration to use is fully determined by the > from address of the mail to be sent. > > [...] there shouldn't be any need for interactivity. For each outoging > mail, pick up the right SMTP config based

Re: mutt, imaps and OAuth2

2022-08-04 Thread Sam Kuper
On Thu, Aug 04, 2022 at 09:40:03AM +0200, Sébastien Hinderer wrote: > I am about to work for an organization whose e-mails are managed by > Google. Commiserations. > I tried to configure mutt to read those e-mails, in particular to make > the OAuth2 authentification method work for imaps [but

Re: mutt, imaps and OAuth2

2022-08-04 Thread Sam Kuper
On Thu, Aug 04, 2022 at 12:14:04PM +0200, Matthias Apitz wrote: > El día Donnerstag, August 04, 2022 a las 10:07:47 +0000, Sam Kuper escribió: >> As a *temporary workaround*, maybe see if you can edit the >> GMail/GoogleMail settings so that a copy of each incoming email

Re: mutt, imaps and OAuth2

2022-08-04 Thread Sam Kuper
On Thu, Aug 04, 2022 at 02:51:14PM +0200, Matthias Apitz wrote: > El día Donnerstag, August 04, 2022 a las 12:23:08 +0000, Sam Kuper escribió: >> On Thu, Aug 04, 2022 at 12:14:04PM +0200, Matthias Apitz wrote: >>> El día Donnerstag, August 04, 2022 a las 10:07:47 +,

Re: Visualising contents of a Maildir

2022-08-17 Thread Sam Kuper
On Wed, Aug 17, 2022 at 09:22:31PM +0200, martin f krafft via Mutt-users wrote: > For reasons you don't want to know, You may be underestimating the curiosity of your audience. > I have to visualise a Maildir with a couple of thousand messages, i.e. > essentially provide a mutt-style index with

Re: Deleting large number of emails from busy mailbox

2023-04-17 Thread Sam Kuper
On Wed, Mar 15, 2023 at 08:47:44AM +0100, Vegard Svanberg wrote: > Multi-threaded GUI version coming up any time soon? ;-) Let's hope not. That would massively increase Mutt's attack surface and the burden on its maintainer. People who really want to expose themselves to the risk that

Re: Forward with attachments

2023-04-18 Thread Sam Kuper
On Tue, Apr 18, 2023 at 04:02:36PM -0500, Jason wrote: > 3. Open attachment view, tag all attachments including body, do 'tag > prefix' then 'forward', and select 'no' when asked whether to send as > attachments. This seems to do what I want for the most part, body text > is included in body and

Re: Forward with attachments

2023-04-27 Thread Sam Kuper
On Thu, Apr 27, 2023 at 11:28:32AM -0400, Ofer Inbar wrote: > These days I usually do it by hitting 'v' on the original, separately > saving the attachments I want as local files, and then re-attaching > them to my reply or forward. If you want to save them locally, fair enough. If not, then

Re: sample muttrc file for AOL email...

2023-04-13 Thread Sam Kuper
On Thu, Apr 13, 2023 at 04:22:01AM -0500, Lester Rees wrote: > Damn, I never thought getting help configuring Mutt for my AOL email > account would be such a big hassle.  I used to use mutt for my Gmail > accounts, but Google, as you know [is phasing out app-specific > passwords]. As others in