Re: [neonixie-l] Re: Well I tried, big tubes on ebay this am

2017-06-07 Thread Paul Andrews
I made a portable ion probe out of one of those electric fly swatters. See this topic. Re. elements not lighting up - only the lead up to the element on my flaky 6844A tubes will glow unless I pump it with more current and

Re: [neonixie-l] Four NL-8091 on ebay

2017-06-07 Thread Paul Andrews
I would love to see a clock made of these. Anyone with deep pockets? Here is one over at bad Nixie: http://www.badnixie.com/The_%22RackMountable%22_Nixie.html. As my wife would say 'Le sigh'. > On Jun 7, 2017, at 5:05 PM, David Forbes wrote: > > He may have bought

Re: [neonixie-l] Re: Well I tried, big tubes on ebay this am

2017-06-07 Thread Paul Andrews
Very nice. I assume you have tried pumping more current through the non-working digits? Like do you get any glow on them at all, or just nothing? Any obvious signs that the non-functioning digits are disconnected? I was contemplating making a clock that deliberately malfunctions with some

[neonixie-l] Four NL-8091 on ebay

2017-06-07 Thread Paul Andrews
Time to take out a second mortgage folks: These on eBay: https://www.ebay.com/itm/112434355542 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "neonixie-l" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to

[neonixie-l] NIB LC-631 on sale in Poland

2017-06-07 Thread Paul Andrews
I am definitely interested. Maybe 6 tubes, but definitely one. Feel free to private message me if you like. Thanks for posting this. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "neonixie-l" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from

Re: [neonixie-l] Re: Well I tried, big tubes on ebay this am

2017-06-05 Thread Paul Andrews
Well anyway, I'm excited to see if they work. I hope they do, I have bought many untested tubes and so far had only one dud. Now I get to spend that money on other items in my long buy list, which seems to grow faster than the money comes in! On Jun 5, 2017, at 4:13 PM, Nicholas Stock

[neonixie-l] trading nixies?

2017-06-05 Thread Paul Andrews
This is my list. I can't vouch for whether they are NOS or used (except where noted), but they are all clean and work: 122P224, 2 B5442, 2, NOS B5750S, 1 B5855S, 2 B5870ST, 1 CD80-P, 8, used LC-531, 2 used Plus I have surplus IN-12 NOS and IN-14 used -- You received this message because you

[neonixie-l] Re: 6x Multiplexing Nixie Current

2017-06-05 Thread Paul Andrews
Or you could put a big variable resistor in parallel and gradually reduce it until you are happy with the result. Bearing in mind you don't want to go too low (too much current). The data sheet for the tube might tell you an acceptable multiplex current. If it doesn't, I would look at some data

[neonixie-l] trading nixies?

2017-06-05 Thread Paul Andrews
I only have a small collection, but I'll put together a trade list. Chances are that you have everything I would be willing to trade, but others might want to trade some of them. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "neonixie-l" group. To unsubscribe

[neonixie-l] Re: Well I tried, big tubes on ebay this am

2017-06-05 Thread Paul Andrews
If either of those work, you got a bargain. I thought it was worth a try too - you just beat me! I need to work on my eBay technique. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "neonixie-l" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from

[neonixie-l] Re: Coin cell nixie power supply

2017-06-02 Thread Paul Andrews
at about 3mA continuous and about 30mA peak. The voltage drops rapidly over time. On Thursday, June 1, 2017 at 11:29:06 PM UTC-4, Paul Andrews wrote: > > I thought I would share this little project > <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TVslqpSRKj4=FLCzYPC6--I0qVJd0UfMI0GQ> >

[neonixie-l] Re: Horizontal mesh nixies

2017-06-02 Thread Paul Andrews
And the ZM1212 . On Friday, June 2, 2017 at 6:13:25 AM UTC-4, Alic wrote: > > The nixies with horizontal mesh are quite popular. I like them a lot! > First I thought that there was only the CD66, but then I discovered the > ZM1210,

Re: [neonixie-l] Re: Shameless Plug: Arduino Shield for a Dekatron

2017-06-02 Thread Paul Andrews
I modified it so you can set the brightness of each pin, so the hour now defaults to be brighter than the other two. I briefly tried anti-aliasing the hour hand, but that would be a much more invasive change. The hack I tried was not good! > On Jun 2, 2017, at 8:20 AM, Jon D.

[neonixie-l] Horizontal mesh nixies

2017-06-02 Thread Paul Andrews
Mullard seemed to specialize in them. This page shows several: http://www.webx.dk/oz2cpu/clock/nixie-collection (hopefully I typed that right - I'm on my phone). -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "neonixie-l" group. To unsubscribe from this group

Re: [neonixie-l] Re: Shameless Plug: Arduino Shield for a Dekatron

2017-06-02 Thread Paul Andrews
It should be there now... On Jun 2, 2017, at 7:54 AM, Jon D. wrote: When I go look at the Github, I only see a readme.md file and no code. Am I missing something? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to a topic in the Google Groups "neonixie-l" group.

Re: [neonixie-l] Re: Shameless Plug: Arduino Shield for a Dekatron

2017-06-02 Thread Paul Andrews
be a requirement. > Since on an old analog clock, all hands were in constant motion. So here, the > "hours hand", advances every 24 minutes (0.4 hour), assuming a 12-hour clock. > > On Thursday, June 1, 2017 at 6:02:26 PM UTC-7, Paul Andrews wrote: >> >>> Clock

[neonixie-l] Coin cell nixie power supply

2017-06-01 Thread Paul Andrews
I thought I would share this little project (not mine, I just stumbled across it).The video is really well made and there is a link to the author's web site. So I ordered the parts so I could build it. In the meantime I

[neonixie-l] Re: Shameless Plug: Arduino Shield for a Dekatron

2017-06-01 Thread Paul Andrews
> > Clock code is on my github . This > is a video of it running at 100x. > @greg. Yes it is an A101. I step between 'lit pins' about once every 80-100us. I linger on each lit pin for about 7000us. It was inspired both

[neonixie-l] Re: Shameless Plug: Arduino Shield for a Dekatron

2017-05-31 Thread Paul Andrews
Because we are all about clocks. Here is a clock implemented using this shield: https://youtu.be/LNCbABuIcr0 The display looks flickery in the video, but it isn't in real life. I need to tidy the code up a bit, then I'll upload it to github. I'll leave it as an excercise to the reader to figure

Re: [neonixie-l] Pulsed DC vs direct DC in cathode poisioned

2017-05-30 Thread Paul Andrews
Maybe you just have a bad wall wart. It would be a cheap and easy test to buy another. Not all wall warts are created equal. They can be poorly regulated, noisy and what it says on the label can be an outright lie. I know you have tested the current, but I still think it would be worth a try.

Re: [neonixie-l] Re: HV control chips

2017-05-16 Thread Paul Andrews
The datasheet says: Transfer of data from the shift register to the latch occurs when the LE (latch enable) input is high. The data in the latch is stored when LE is low. > On May 16, 2017, at 2:15 PM, SWISSNIXIE - Jonathan F. > wrote: > > Oh, sorry for my fault! I

Re: [neonixie-l] Re: HV control chips

2017-05-16 Thread Paul Andrews
Just read the datasheet for the HV5122/HV5222. They are quite different than the HV5522, at least in terms of how the data is latched, hence my confusion. In the HV5122/HV5222 you have to disable the display while you update it, which is what Jonathan is doing. With the HV5522 you can update

Re: [neonixie-l] Re: HV control chips

2017-05-16 Thread Paul Andrews
Shouldn't you take OE low immediately after taking it high? The data sheet states that it is a pulse rather than it existing as a state for a long period of time. Taking it high copies the state from the shift registers to the latch. Taking it low latches the data. > On May 16, 2017, at 8:06

[neonixie-l] Re: HV control chips

2017-05-15 Thread Paul Andrews
through 30 digitalWrite(LEpin, HIGH);// Transfer data from shift register to latches. digitalWrite(LEpin, LOW); // Latch data SPI.endTransaction(); } On Tuesday, February 21, 2017 at 6:51:23 AM UTC-5, Paul Andrews wrote: > > Hi, > > I was following up on a discussion elsewhere w

[neonixie-l] Re: HV control chips

2017-05-15 Thread Paul Andrews
of the control pins. It is actually clock. So, lesson learned. Its a good job I don't mind embarassing myself in public. On Tuesday, February 21, 2017 at 6:51:23 AM UTC-5, Paul Andrews wrote: > > Hi, > > I was following up on a discussion elsewhere which mention the HV5530 as a > control

[neonixie-l] Re: HV control chips

2017-05-15 Thread Paul Andrews
This is, of course, embarassing. I had wired blanking high. When I pull it low the signals are what they should be. Of course, it still isn't behaving as I want it to, but at least I have made some progress... On Tuesday, February 21, 2017 at 6:51:23 AM UTC-5, Paul Andrews wrote: > > Hi,

[neonixie-l] Re: HV control chips

2017-05-15 Thread Paul Andrews
tV0/WRng5vVgrNI/AlM/VGEGP0nxUC8VglEv0N0Xnmp0f9d3CAUpACLcB/s1600/IMG_1471.JPG> On Tuesday, February 21, 2017 at 6:51:23 AM UTC-5, Paul Andrews wrote: > > Hi, > > I was following up on a discussion elsewhere which mention the HV5530 as a > control chip for Nixie tubes. This h

[neonixie-l] Re: Tube testing?

2017-05-13 Thread Paul Andrews
8AUYQLBIo-snORJq5qGaq-qM4qxxgNDYACLcB/s1600/IMG_1445.JPG> Naturally, I played around with creating some sparks between the output leads after I removed the capacitor and resistor, but before I removed the leads :) Well, that's it, I've done it and can move on! On Saturday, January 21, 2017 at

Re: [neonixie-l] Re: "Firmware" must-have's / nice to have's

2017-05-12 Thread Paul Andrews
I had to fine tune how I was doing that to remove the flicker. I think it is caused by a beat between how often you go around the main loop and what you think the state of the tubes should be. You have to keep of an error term to keep track of the state you should be in. Anyhow it seems to

[neonixie-l] 'Tube socket pins'. What are they really?

2017-05-12 Thread Paul Andrews
Does anyone know what these are actually called so that I can find them on digikey or mouser? I assume that they are the female

[neonixie-l] Re: Shameless Plug: Arduino Shield for a Dekatron

2017-05-11 Thread Paul Andrews
wrote: > > > On Thursday, May 11, 2017 at 1:30:39 PM UTC-7, Paul Andrews wrote: >> >> Will this work with OG-7? How will I socket it? >> > > The OG-7 is a high speed tube. It has the OG-4 pin out. If you think of > the the OG-4 as being a Russian 6802, the OG-7 is

[neonixie-l] Re: Shameless Plug: Arduino Shield for a Dekatron

2017-05-11 Thread Paul Andrews
Will this work with OG-7? How will I socket it? On Wednesday, May 10, 2017 at 2:29:40 AM UTC-4, threeneurons wrote: > > If you're familiar with the Arduino, here's a shield that will plug into > an Arduino Uno, so that sketches can control the dekatron. It also has an > A101 socket built in. I

[neonixie-l] Re: "Firmware" must-have's / nice to have's

2017-05-11 Thread Paul Andrews
Can you blank the tubes in software? If so you could implement dimming in software, which is all PWM is. No need for a dedicated pin. I did this for an Arduino controlled clock kit I bought. There were no timers left, so I just kept track of whether the tubes should be on or off in the 'PWM'

[neonixie-l] Re: IV-1 datasheet English translation

2017-05-09 Thread Paul Andrews
I 'paraphrased' much of the literal translation e.g. 'Max' instead of 'not greater'. The translator completely failed to translate Накала, though it gave the Roman alphabet equivalent of Nacala. From the context it was fairly clear that it is the filament, which I translated as heater.

[neonixie-l] Re: Constant current source design

2017-05-09 Thread Paul Andrews
Hi (Greg?), Using the datasheet for the PMOS transistor you use in your circuit, how do you calculate the value of R116 (the resistor between +200V and the source of your MOSFET)? On Saturday, March 25, 2017 at 12:30:53 PM UTC-4, gregebert wrote: > > That's basically what I use in my designs.

Re: [neonixie-l] Re: Constant current source design

2017-05-08 Thread Paul Andrews
Well that makes me feel dumb (which is fine, I will learn)! I should have had the sense to calculate a suitable load value and I should read the data sheets more carefully! Hopefully my trial and error will be instructive to others as well as myself. I'll do it again with calculated load

[neonixie-l] Re: Constant current source design

2017-05-08 Thread Paul Andrews
ld go with the very first option. On Friday, April 7, 2017 at 5:34:49 PM UTC-4, Paul Andrews wrote: > > Here is a link > <http://www.infineon.com/dgdl/Infineon-Application_Note_Applications_for_Depletion_MOSFETs-AN-v01_00-EN.pdf?fileId=5546d4624cb7f111014cd63d1a197d94> >

[neonixie-l] IV-1 datasheet English translation

2017-05-07 Thread Paul Andrews
Hi, I translated the IV-1 specs from this book into English using Google Translate. I uploaded the document to our google drive here - it includes drawings of the tube. If anyone spots

[neonixie-l] Re: Spotted on Ebay: B6091/NL8423 nixies (larger20mm/0.8 inch). Manufactured 1985

2017-05-05 Thread Paul Andrews
Or you could bid on this one: https://www.ebay.com/itm/112392941139 That seller has some interesting stuff. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "neonixie-l" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to

[neonixie-l] NL-1261

2017-05-02 Thread Paul Andrews
Someone just sold a pair of NL-1261 Nixie tubes on eBay. What are they? I can't find any info on them. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "neonixie-l" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to

[neonixie-l] Re: Radioactive Nixies - Study

2017-05-01 Thread Paul Andrews
I did try putting the SB-20 on top of a bunch of tubes (a bunch = 3 in this case). It briefly got up to around 120CPM, but mostly hovered around 50-70CPM. I'm not sure what background is at my place. Anything between 15 and 35 CPM maybe. So maybe it registered something, or it could be

[neonixie-l] Re: The insides of a B5092A...

2017-04-30 Thread Paul Andrews
Between the 5th and 6th white insulator disks starting from the top. On mine you can see a lead going from that to the grey metal support. On Sunday, April 30, 2017 at 1:36:45 PM UTC-4, gregebert wrote: > > Never knew about the extra '8'.where was it located in the vertical > stack ? > > >

[neonixie-l] Help identifying unmarked tube

2017-04-30 Thread Paul Andrews
Hi, I recently took delivery of a job lot of Nixies. It included several tubes of the B8570/B5750/B5855, which basically look like re-branded Japanese tubes too me. However, the lot also included an unmarked tube that I can't identify. It is unusual because it has a decimal point and a

[neonixie-l] 2017.5.19-21 Maker Faire Bay Area. Come to see my designs!

2017-04-28 Thread Paul Andrews
If I lived anywhere near there I certainly would. Your clocks are beautiful. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "neonixie-l" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to

[neonixie-l] Re: Video with nixies display in old secret place

2017-04-27 Thread Paul Andrews
That would be B-5*0*92-A. On Thursday, April 27, 2017 at 9:55:54 PM UTC-4, Paul Andrews wrote: > > While I was searching for information on 122P224 tubes (aka B-5992-A), I > came across a document in our very own document repository here > <https://drive.google.c

[neonixie-l] Re: Video with nixies display in old secret place

2017-04-27 Thread Paul Andrews
While I was searching for information on 122P224 tubes (aka B-5992-A), I came across a document in our very own document repository here . I transferred all the info into the shared spreadsheet, I added four more entries and I

[neonixie-l] Re: Radioactive Nixies - Study

2017-04-27 Thread Paul Andrews
Just got my radioactive nixie tubes. Sadly they seem to make my geiger counter read less than normal!

[neonixie-l] Extreme cathode cleaning?

2017-04-26 Thread Paul Andrews
Some very pretty pictures here http://www.hazardousphysics.com/misc/Nixie_tube_at_30V.html though personally I think he is taking the whole cathode cleaning thing a bit too far! One day I will (might?) build myself a Tesla coil... -- You received this message because you are subscribed to

Re: [neonixie-l] Video with nixies display in old secret place

2017-04-25 Thread Paul Andrews
I think 'no personal or commercial products' gets across what we are looking for. BTW, The Prisoner was a TV program so 'Movies' is a little restrictive. I think Videos would also qualify (for example music Videos and YouTube videos). But 'hidden' is probably a good enough term. > On Apr 25,

Re: [neonixie-l] Video with nixies display in old secret place

2017-04-25 Thread Paul Andrews
I agree. My prisoner sighting, for example, is just one tube, yet it is certainly of the right era. BTW, I will add it once I get a spare moment - I have the boxed set so I can get the exact timing. > On Apr 25, 2017, at 12:55 AM, SWISSNIXIE - Jonathan F. > wrote: > >

[neonixie-l] Video with nixies display in old secret place

2017-04-23 Thread Paul Andrews
I was staying in Portmeirion a while back, they have have a 24 hour prisoner channel on the TV in the rooms. I was watching the finale and was thinking that this is the era of the Nixie tube (1967), and what do you know? In the final minutes in the village there is a countdown sequence that

[neonixie-l] Re: What is this 6209 G from sharp calculator?

2017-04-22 Thread Paul Andrews
, 2017 at 11:15:29 AM UTC-4, Paul Andrews wrote: > > Hi, > > I'm salvaging some tubes from an old (broken) Sharp calculator and there > is this on the display board (unfortunately I couldn't de-solder it so it > is a little beat up, though probably salvageable). I can't find

Re: [neonixie-l] Re: What is this 6209 G from sharp calculator?

2017-04-22 Thread Paul Andrews
It has connections to each of the cathodes. There are twelve cathodes for these tubes (CD80-P), so twelve pins are connected each to a different cathode (that might be 11. There is one trace that is difficult to follow). That leaves 8 pins on the device itself. Each cathode on a tube is

[neonixie-l] Love for small tubes

2017-04-22 Thread Paul Andrews
This is a little video of a CD80-P cycling through all its digits (plus the decimal point is lit up). I know that most people are obsessed with the larger tubes, but I love the small tubes. The digits on this are particularly sharp (no pun intended - it was

Re: [neonixie-l] Re: Manufacturing affordable large, new nixie tubes

2017-04-22 Thread Paul Andrews
I would buy that! On Friday, April 21, 2017 at 11:39:29 PM UTC-4, Jens Boos wrote: > > Wow, now we did it. Is that really the message we want to send to a person > who is looking into making Nixie tubes? > > I admire Dalibor for what he has achieved. Perhaps some of you remember > that I tried

[neonixie-l] What is this 6209 G from sharp calculator?

2017-04-22 Thread Paul Andrews
Hi, I'm salvaging some tubes from an old (broken) Sharp calculator and there is this on the display board (unfortunately I couldn't de-solder it so it is a little beat up, though probably salvageable). I can't find out what it is, does anyone know?

Re: [neonixie-l] Re: Manufacturing affordable large, new nixie tubes

2017-04-22 Thread Paul Andrews
Quite. Thankyou for saying this. Life is full of people saying why you can't do something. Achievements happen despite that and not because of it. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "neonixie-l" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving

Re: [neonixie-l] Constant current source design

2017-04-20 Thread Paul Andrews
You need a few ions around in the Neon for the cascade to start. This can happen for a variety of reasons including cosmic rays, background radiation or doping of the gas mixture with something radioactive. There is at least one thread on here about radioactive nixies (which sent me off on a

Re: [neonixie-l] Re: Constant current source design

2017-04-08 Thread Paul Andrews
Totally agree. This is one reason I like to actually try these things out. > On Apr 7, 2017, at 11:02 PM, gregebert wrote: > > My concern with current limiters that rely heavily upon the datasheet specs > (Vgs for Depletion-mode regulator; Vbe for current-mirror) is

[neonixie-l] Re: Constant current source design

2017-04-07 Thread Paul Andrews
Although a mosfet current mirror would use fewer components as you only need one Rset (section three of this <http://web.mit.edu/6.012/www/SP07-L25.pdf>paper). I guess I need to place yet another order with digikey to try some of these out. On Friday, April 7, 2017 at 5:34:49 PM UTC-4

[neonixie-l] Re: Constant current source design

2017-04-07 Thread Paul Andrews
Here is a link to a paper about using a depletion mode MOSFET for the same purpose. It gives this equation for calculating the resistor value,

[neonixie-l] Re: Constant current source design

2017-04-02 Thread Paul Andrews
Next installment. First I tried the current mirror with 2K resistors between +300V and the emitters. This works fine, but is also no more stable than the first solution. It presumably also wastes more power as R2 has to be higher - it is setting the current, so I chose 100K here to get 2mA:

[neonixie-l] Re: Constant current source design

2017-04-01 Thread Paul Andrews
If I just look at all of the circuit diagrams for various current limiters, it begins to seem like any combination of a couple of transistors and a bunch of resistors works! Hence my need to do some 'practicals', it makes me go in to it all in enough depth to actually begin to understand. BTW,

[neonixie-l] Re: My favorite Nixie tube

2017-03-31 Thread Paul Andrews
There's some interesting tubes for sale on ebay atm. DR-2010 (made in Brasil?), and in light of Tomasz post, some ZM1080

[neonixie-l] Re: Constant current source design

2017-03-31 Thread Paul Andrews
My parts arrived, so I finally got to try it. It actually works! Now on to trying variations - I plan to follow the course here <https://www.allaboutcircuits.com/textbook/experiments/chpt-5/current-mirror/> . On Friday, March 24, 2017 at 11:26:32 PM UTC-4, Paul Andrews wrote: > &

Re: [neonixie-l] Re: My favorite Nixie tube

2017-03-29 Thread Paul Andrews
It's a Mullard ZM1177 > On Mar 29, 2017, at 8:21 AM, 'Terry S' via neonixie-l > <neonixie-l@googlegroups.com> wrote: > > I like the horizontal wire grid as well, what is the tube? > Terry > >> On Monday, March 27, 2017 at 10:56:56 PM UTC-5, Paul Andrews wrote

[neonixie-l] My favorite Nixie tube

2017-03-27 Thread Paul Andrews
at least for now! Just de-soldered a bunch of these from an old counter (and some 7441A chips). They were very grimy, but cleaned up nicely and they all work well. Cathodes are shiny and there is no darkening on the glass:

Re: [neonixie-l] Lighting up an IV-15

2017-03-27 Thread Paul Andrews
Here's a picture > On Mar 27, 2017, at 3:47 PM, Paul Andrews <p...@nixies.us> wrote: > > Hi, > > As bought some DM160 and IV-15 tubes a while back. It was difficult to find > much information on either, but especially the IV-15 tubes. There is a > partial tran

[neonixie-l] Lighting up an IV-15

2017-03-27 Thread Paul Andrews
Hi, As bought some DM160 and IV-15 tubes a while back. It was difficult to find much information on either, but especially the IV-15 tubes. There is a partial translation of the Russian data sheet here on this group and I managed to find some more information at

[neonixie-l] Re: Yahoo! group files section...

2017-03-26 Thread Paul Andrews
Works for me. Thanks for putting this up! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "neonixie-l" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send an

Re: [neonixie-l] Lixies/Tixie Clock

2017-03-24 Thread Paul Andrews
What files/photos section? i.e. How do we access that? On Friday, March 24, 2017 at 5:07:36 AM UTC-4, johnk wrote: > > Some of you might like what you see in the files/photos section of this > Google Group or the old Yahoo Group - pics of non-nixie displays and lots > of interesting stuff. >

[neonixie-l] Constant current source design

2017-03-24 Thread Paul Andrews
I wanted to start a discussion about constant current sources (as opposed to sinks, because I want to provide a constant current to the anode regardless of which cathode is pulled to ground). I've found many articles on the web. Some for Nixie constant current sinks, some for LED constant

[neonixie-l] Re: 6844A saga

2017-03-23 Thread Paul Andrews
Running them at a high currenr for a while has workee, except for one holdout. This digit will light at about 4mA, which is the maximum recommended. Occasionally it will light at 2mA. When it lights it pulls the same current as all the other digits, otherwise it draws less. So I am wondering

[neonixie-l] Re: IN-13 Burn-in

2017-03-23 Thread Paul Andrews
There is an article about IN-13 tubes here: https://www.saltechips.com/lab/the-parasitic-current-leakage-mechanism-of-the-in-13-tube/. The whole site is dedicated to those tubes. It is very interesting reading for anyone interested in how Nixie tubes work. On Thursday, March 16, 2017 at

[neonixie-l] Re: 6844A saga

2017-03-23 Thread Paul Andrews
Well this is fun! I upped the current signifcantly (6.9mA - just over 2x recommended max), which caused some internal arcing briefly! Blew a resistor (I guess it was a 1/4 W. Interestingly it went from being a 5.1K to being a 27K resistor). Bottom line is it kinda sorta works. But the results

[neonixie-l] 6844A saga

2017-03-23 Thread Paul Andrews
Hi all, I recently bought some 6844A tubes of ebay - I fancied making a four tube clock with round top-view tubes. In my head I had assumed that these would be doped with mercury, but they aren't. However, before I found that out I bought four Raytheon JAN 6844A tubes and 2 Burroughs 6844A

Re: [neonixie-l] Lixies/Tixie Clock

2017-03-21 Thread Paul Andrews
ng the backer's funds to pay for car > repairs, and nothing was ever delivered, nor was there any attempt at making > it right with backers. > >> On Tue, Mar 21, 2017 at 5:37 PM, Paul Andrews <p...@nixies.us> wrote: >> Just came across this on Tindie: >> >&

[neonixie-l] Lixies/Tixie Clock

2017-03-21 Thread Paul Andrews
Just came across this on Tindie: > > Here's a link to a cool Youtube video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FwXqQos0ZFk I have to say. I really like this. -- You

[neonixie-l] Re: Mounting IN-18 tubes

2017-03-18 Thread Paul Andrews
t how best to get them from the Eagle files! On Monday, February 6, 2017 at 10:48:04 PM UTC-5, Paul Andrews wrote: > > Hi, > > Does anyone have any suggestions about how to mount IN-18 tubes? It looks > like they are intended to be socketed and I see some sockets/pins on

[neonixie-l] Re: brightest nixie tube clock already assembled

2017-03-17 Thread Paul Andrews
l > and cheap tubes (here in Poland about 2,5$ for used tube) > > > W dniu czwartek, 16 marca 2017 15:34:05 UTC+1 użytkownik Paul Andrews > napisał: >> >> I like the clocks from these guys: >> http://www.ebay.com/usr/gra_and_afch_2?_trksid=p2053788.m1543.l2754 T

Re: [neonixie-l] Re: Mounting IN-18 tubes

2017-03-16 Thread Paul Andrews
Current measured at 6mA. > On Mar 16, 2017, at 9:40 PM, Gene Segal <wavefr...@earthlink.net> wrote: > > Looks WAY overdriven!!! Don't expect it to last too long at that current... > >> Paul Andrews March 16, 2017 at 6:28 PM >> >> A picture of one of my IN-1

[neonixie-l] Re: Mounting IN-18 tubes

2017-03-16 Thread Paul Andrews
A picture of one of my IN-18s plugged into the first PCB I have ever designed and had made (KiCAD and OSH park). It is a breadboard adaptor! It is being driven from an arduino using a K155ID1. Someone (I don't remember who) pointed out that you can use a K155ID1 to drive LEDs as a good way to

Re: [neonixie-l] Mounting IN-18 tubes

2017-03-16 Thread Paul Andrews
gt; See diagram attached: > > > John S > > > On 7 Feb 2017, at 03:48, Paul Andrews wrote: > > Does anyone have any suggestions about how to mount IN-18 tubes? It looks > like they are intended to be socketed and I see some sockets/pins on ebay. > I would like to underligh

[neonixie-l] Re: brightest nixie tube clock already assembled

2017-03-16 Thread Paul Andrews
I like the clocks from these guys: http://www.ebay.com/usr/gra_and_afch_2?_trksid=p2053788.m1543.l2754 They are direct drive so as bright as they can be. They come in various forms, so you would probably want to make sure you at least bought one with the arduino included. They have one with a

[neonixie-l] IN-18 ON EBAY?

2017-03-16 Thread Paul Andrews
Bought some NOS from Ukrainian_gifts. Haven't done much with them since other than fire one up just for the kicks. Worked fine. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "neonixie-l" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it,

Re: [neonixie-l] Re: brightest nixie tube clock already assembled

2017-03-15 Thread Paul Andrews
Interesting. I played around with adding Alexa support to one of my clocks. Nothing fancy, just being able to turn the alarm on and off, the backlights on and off etc. Basically it made it look like multiple wemo devices so all the commands were things like 'Alexa turn backlight off' The alarm

Re: [neonixie-l] Radioactive Nixies - Study

2017-03-15 Thread Paul Andrews
containing nuclear war heads would set them off... > On Mar 15, 2017, at 10:36 AM, NeonJohn <j...@neon-john.com> wrote: > > > >> On 03/15/2017 09:42 AM, Mark Moulding wrote: >> >>> On Tuesday, March 14, 2017 at 10:02:40 AM UTC-7, Paul Andrews wrote: &g

Re: [neonixie-l] Radioactive Nixies - Study

2017-03-14 Thread Paul Andrews
My wife sends us this link: http://thedollop.net/wp/episode-20-dollop/ about David Hahn. I think she means it as a cautionary tale! > On Mar 14, 2017, at 2:01 PM, gregebert wrote: > > Anyone know how the radiation "hazard" of nixies compares to Xrays produced > by color

[neonixie-l] Any good guides to building boost converters?

2017-03-14 Thread Paul Andrews
Hi, I have decided that I need to actually understand the details of boost converter design, rather than just the principles (you know, back-emf and all that). It would be helpful to have a course that takes me through a basic implementation and then addresses issues such as efficiency, input

[neonixie-l] Re: Any good (simple) guides to building puck converters?

2017-03-14 Thread Paul Andrews
I need to wait until the coffee takes effect. I mean boost converters! Can I change the title? On Tuesday, March 14, 2017 at 8:35:02 AM UTC-4, Paul Andrews wrote: > > I've come to the conclusion that I need to be able to build my own puck > converters, at least so I can understand

[neonixie-l] Any good (simple) guides to building puck converters?

2017-03-14 Thread Paul Andrews
I've come to the conclusion that I need to be able to build my own puck converters, at least so I can understand what I am looking at when I look at schematics for other people's converters! I could do with something that takes me from a simple example up to more complex examples that fix

[neonixie-l] A new old NixiSat about to be built!

2017-03-14 Thread Paul Andrews
Does this help (not sure it is the same thing, but it might help you get in touch with the right people): http://www.azevedo-devices.com/blog/nwts-syncing-a-jeff-thomas-gpsii-clock -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "neonixie-l" group. To unsubscribe

[neonixie-l] Re: Radioactive Nixies - Study

2017-03-14 Thread Paul Andrews
Which is where my thoughts about the provenance of tubes from the Ukraine arises. Where are these warehouses that for some reason still have large quantities of Nixie tubes in them? This doesn't keep me up at night, but I would like to know. Perhaps someone could make a documentary about the

Re: [neonixie-l] Re: IN-14 and Mystery Tube?

2017-03-13 Thread Paul Andrews
The only components in there were resistors and the breadboard itself. Voltages were nixie level. I would say it was either a resistor or the breadboard itself. I am pretty religious about measuring stuff before I turn the power on (and after), and if there had been anything more complicated in

[neonixie-l] Re: Lighting up a DM160

2017-03-13 Thread Paul Andrews
, Paul Andrews wrote: > > I just impulsively bought some DM160 VFD indicators and now I am at a loss > as to how to power them! Can anyone help? > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "neonixie-l" group. To unsubscribe from this group and

[neonixie-l] Re: IN-14 and Mystery Tube?

2017-03-12 Thread Paul Andrews
Tell me about it :-/ I had smoke coming out of something the other day. Amazingly nothing was damaged. Live and learn! On Sunday, March 12, 2017 at 10:17:17 PM UTC-4, gregebert wrote: > > *If everything is properly connected*, even an internal short in the > 74141 that leaked high-voltage back

[neonixie-l] Re: Radioactive Nixies - Study

2017-03-12 Thread Paul Andrews
I have often wondered about taking a geiger counter to my tubes. Call me paranoid, but I wonder where some of the NOS tubes come from precisely. On Sunday, March 12, 2017 at 3:41:11 PM UTC-4, SWISSNIXIE - Jonathan F. wrote: > > Hi > > This might be a little off topic or irrelevant, but maybe

[neonixie-l] Re: Lighting up a DM160

2017-03-12 Thread Paul Andrews
Here is a schematic. Some notes about it: The filament (aka the cathode) should always have 1V across it. It has to be warm. When it is warm it has a resistance of about 30R. So the purpose of the resistor network there is that it cuts the 12V up into 3V, 1V and 8V (approximately). The filament

[neonixie-l] Re: Lighting up a DM160

2017-03-11 Thread Paul Andrews
Boy did I buy myself into a hole with this one! I had just about got to grips with Nixie tubes, now I have a whole new technology to learn; I'm sure a lot of the folks on this list know the ins and outs of triodes - I'm not one of them! I will get there eventually though. Apologies if what

[neonixie-l] Lighting up a DM160

2017-03-09 Thread Paul Andrews
I just impulsively bought some DM160 VFD indicators and now I am at a loss as to how to power them! Can anyone help? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "neonixie-l" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email

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