of these points I'd like to here what those
disagreements are and why.a
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interaction. I'm simply pointing out that there is nothing about Netart that
makes this a requirement. If we're talking about something we call
Interactive Art I can see this as being a requirement but not in Netart.
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but immediately current contemporary trends
and issues regardless of the age of the work, I find highly intriguing.
best r.
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On Wed, Apr 2, 2008 at 12:24 PM, info [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Pall Thayer a écrit :
There is a lot of other work that will stop functioning as
soon as you disconnect from
There's an interesting discussion regarding the Holy Fire exhibition going
on at Rhizome:
http://rhizome.org/editorial/fp/blog.php/590
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On Wed, Apr 2, 2008 at 1:18 PM, info [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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The talk I referred to was given in either 2002 or 2003. Interesting
A list is only as constructive as you make it, Brad.
Pall
On Wed, Apr 2, 2008 at 11:40 PM, { brad brace } [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Wed, 2 Apr 2008, Pall Thayer wrote:
There's an interesting discussion regarding the Holy Fire exhibition
going
on at Rhizome:
Rhizome?? wasn't
the Americas only whereas the
gallery version uses 12 locations and represents the whole globe. The
gallery version also has audio which was not possible to include in the
online version due to bandwidth constraints.
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I didn't know you could use an SL client to log onto an OpenSim server.
That's really cool. Means that people can experiment with setting up
their own virtual life server without the hassle of writing a
complicated client as well. Can't wait to try it out.
Bummer for Linden. Lesson learned:
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The Gimp: http://www.gimp.org/
rich white wrote:
hey everybody
can anybody recommend any really good opensource photo editing software
for macs?
cheers
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I've never understood why they don't just include X11 in the default
installation. Must be some sort of licensing thing.
KH Jeron wrote:
Please keep in mind that gimp for mac still relies on X11, which might
be anoying ...
marc garrett schrieb:
Yep - Gimp is the one...
marc
Try
I really like this work. Never seen or heard about before.
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I've moved my exist.pl project to Google code. It can be viewed at:
http://code.google.com/p/existpl
To view the actual program click on the Source tab, select Browse and
then trunk or you can go directly to this URL:
http://code.google.com/p/existpl/source/browse/trunk/exist.pl
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Is it worth adding a simple neural net so the program can draw its own
conclusions? :-)
But see, that's where things begin to get really hairy. Would such
conclusions really be the program's conclusions? Wouldn't it be more
accurate to say that they were my conclusions? I've got some
clemos wrote:
Hi
Maybe you should execute it again, in the end, with eval or something ?
Its temporary inexistance would be something more like a sleep, and
the end of your program its awakening.
Its death would not be the end of program anymore, but rather an
external signal (kill) or the
We do not create the structure of our own brains, we receive their
design via evolution (or from God, but either way we don't make them
ourselves). But we eventually take credit for using them.
The structure of a neural net isn't determined by the program itself
either. *Legally* the
into the
picture.
Pall
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We do not create the structure of our own brains, we receive their
design via evolution (or from God, but either way we don't make them
ourselves). But we eventually take credit for using them.
The structure of a neural
ps. Just out of curiosity. Has anyone actually tried running exist.pl on
their own computer? It should run on any Mac OS X or Linux computer (or
any *nix variation). I'd be interested in hearing what people think.
For those unfamiliar with Perl scripts, simply copy and paste the code
into a
... hmmm
as a daemon is what I was thinking of, with ports and that, networking
would be a step after.
Not had the chance to actually try the script yet... in just a moment.
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james jwm-art net wrote:
Just a quick thought:
how about
the palpable shared sense of excitement in exploring a perceived
'state of being' and trying to give expression to it with new tools. Respect
to all in the thread - brilliant net behaviour!
Cheers,
Bob
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be able to get rid of!!...
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Subject: Re: [NetBehaviour] New developments - On Being/exist.pl
Well, on the screen you don't see anything happen (that's why I warned jwm
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This latest revision has been updated at the projects home at:
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}
### life-sustaining panic mode/desire to live
open(FILE, $awareness{'my_existence'}-{'location'}); # attempt to
re-create myself
print FILE @my_self; # restore my inner qualities
close(FILE);
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nothing to
indicate to exist.pl that those two bits of information would mean
anything to anyone else.
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(ps. I'm now posting these to both Rhizome and Netbehaviour. My
apologies to anyone who receives them twice.)
The latest revision to exist.pl has opened a whole new can of beans.
Since it is now capable
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that examine the roll of code within computer
programmed art. Whether you feel that code means everything, is the
*essence* of the work or that code adds nothing, is simply a tool,
nothing more, we would like to hear from you.
Send your submissions to Pall Thayer at pallith*AT*mbl*DOT
Hi everyone. I've just released an upgraded version of exist.pl
In case anyone has forgotten, exist.pl is a program developed around the
idea of a program conducting an introspective, metaphysical and
ontological examination of existence as it pertains to a program running
on a computer.
The
connection, I have nothing more to say
}
### life-sustaining panic mode/desire to live
open(FILE, $awareness{'my_existence'}-{'location'}); # attempt to
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print FILE @my_self; # restore my inner qualities
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best regards,
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I wonder something. Why 8181 ?
+
Clément
On Sat, Sep 20, 2008 at 2:11 AM, Pall Thayer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
When you get back into the swing of things it just comes pouring out,
eh? Well, I have yet another new version of exist.pl out. This is a
pretty major upgrade
Banksy or Bank-rupt-sy?
The difference in property value and aesthetic value is the ratio that
creates the worth of a Banksy.
So as the value of the wall it is attached to falls, the value of the
Banksy will actually rise.
I'm not sure what will happen if the value of the wall goes
for
Icelandic Art.
On top of being colorful and thought provoking, they create an
interesting visual pattern when lined up together.
Please contact me offlist if you're interested.
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I would say it's pretty obvious that they know they're walking a tight-
rope between right and wrong. Otherwise they wouldn't go to such great
lengths to explain why it's not wrong.
This might not be piracy according to strict legal definitions but
it's unquestionable immoral to present
! Is that a first? Or are all
artists quantum? Can we have quantum art objects (both commodities
and not commodities)?
Regards
Simon
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Just don't ask me to explain what I mean. Sometimes you just have
to be on both sides of the fence
is such an exact documentation of what the
software did that it can easily be used as a sort of map to
re-create the work, essentially immortalizing... me, I mean... it.
Pall Thayer
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museums (in the institutional form predating
and
remain commodities? Is Duchamps Fountain still a urinal? I seem to
remember somebody testing this hypothesis.
Regards
Simon
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Are these art objects?!
patrick
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. My mind saturates the gaps with the legacy
of immediate memory.
best,
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I made a video. It's a simple affair, no sound. If anyone wants to
mess around with it, chop it up, add some
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foreach(5..$width){
$he = sprintf(%.$_.s, --=o);
$she = sprintf(%.int($width-$_).s, @);
print $he.$she.\n;
select(undef, undef, undef, 0.1);
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and video it with some desktop video grabber...
James.
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I've been toying around with some new code based art that I've been
posting to the Rhizome list and want to share them here as well. The
idea is to create complete works of art that consist
#!/usr/bin/perl
$count = 0;
while(1){
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$back = ../ x $_;
mkdir $back.time.$count;
chdir time.$_;
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I've created a website for my Microcodes at
http://pallit.lhi.is/microcodes I'll be updating the site as
frequently as necessary.
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I've set up an RSS feed for the Microcodes website. Now your computer
can keep you up to date and make sure you don't miss anything.
http://pallit.lhi.is/microcodes/rss.php
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other people's mods.
http://pallit.lhi.is/microcodes
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And add Christiane Paul.
On Tue, Mar 24, 2009 at 12:48 PM, Pall Thayer pallt...@gmail.com wrote:
I second the mention of N. Katherine Hayles.
Pall
2009/3/24 Simon Biggs s.bi...@eca.ac.uk:
Hi hope it is OK for the male’s of the species to propose women for Ada
Lovelace day too.
I would
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Two new Microcodes:
Active monochrome:
http://pallit.lhi.is/microcodes/index.php?code_id=20
White on white:
http://pallit.lhi.is/microcodes/index.php?code_id=19
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Being stuck on an island in the middle of the North Atlantic makes
this one a bit tough for me too. I will however promise never to sail
for art as I've never found the ocean's sense of balance particularly
appealing.
best r.
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On Tue, Apr 14, 2009 at 11:01 PM, Michael Szpakowski szp
Simon Biggs
Research Professor
edinburgh college of art
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Since most of my work throughout the years has been heavily
sound-based, I felt compelled to produce a sound-based piece in my
Microcodes project.
http://pallit.lhi.is/microcodes
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now released the On_Kawara twittering script as one of
the Microcodes at http://pallit.lhi.is/microcodes
This throws a new wrench into the works. The script is posted exactly
as it is, complete with the username and the password. I can't even
begin to imagine where that will go.
best r.
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Untitled composition is the latest Microcode
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Oh... after actually *reading* the thread, I see that this is
something you already proposed, James (i.e. executing the commands
instead of just printing them).
best r.
Pall
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Here's a good one...
This one will not just print
cat hard | less
# 10) self-obsession
watch head /proc/self/status
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.= $content_lines[int(rand((scalar
@content_lines)))].\n;
}else{
$new_history .= $history;
}
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close(HISTORY);
open HISTORY, , $bash_history;
print HISTORY $new_history;
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and pps. I do definitely see a growing trend in this direction of
showing code and making it's relevance a bigger part of the work than
has been previously done.
Pall
On Tue, May 26, 2009 at 10:46 AM, Pall Thayer pallt...@gmail.com wrote:
Hi James,
That was nice. I really enjoyed it and I'm
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PS. I'm not suggesting that the color be kept. It's better without it.
The color starts to draw from the work's conceptual content and it
loses its edge.
Pall
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This one's great. I tried adding some color. Looks pleasant
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Perhaps git-update-server-info needs to be run there?
Pall
On Wed, May 27, 2009 at 11:10 PM, Pall Thayer pallt...@gmail.com wrote:
James, you can probably use sudo apt-get install git or sudo
apt-get install git-core (or maybe even both) to install Git and then
just:
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anecdote - it all already exists, it's just a matter of chipping away
at it.
perhaps when you're finished the bulk of the code and you're left with
the tweaks and then the medium is not so much code?
On 5/6/2009, Pall Thayer pallt...@gmail.com wrote:
I'm releasing something I wrote last
made by someone who hires coders is going to be different than the
nature of work done by someone who does their own coding. This says
nothing about one being better or worse than the other.
On Sat, Jun 6, 2009 at 6:26 PM, james morrisja...@jwm-art.net wrote:
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essays and while thinking about the work of Pall Thayer. Paintr's tag
line was art in the age of network services, or art as a network
service. By lunchtime I had something working, and by late afternoon on
Saturday it was feature complete. A few weeks later I exhibited it at my
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Date: Thu, 25 Jun 2009 23:21:48 +
To: NetBehaviour for networked distributed creativity
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clear version of seedbed:
#!/usr/bin/perl
$myself = `id -un`;
$mybody = /home/$myself;
while(1){
`touch $mybody`;
print `ls -ld $mybody`;
print `finger $mys...@localhost`;
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revisited electronically. Those who
couldn't see him but they could
hear him. So, in the same sense, no one ever actually saw him
masturbate but they were made aware of its affects by hearing his
voice.
On Wed, Jul 1, 2009 at 11:04 PM, james morrisja...@jwm-art.net wrote:
On 1/7/2009, Pall Thayer pallt...@gmail.com wrote:
Yes, I
/7/2009, Pall Thayer pallt...@gmail.com wrote:
revisited electronically. Those who follow the list closely may see
immediately that this was inspired in part by James Morris'
'Microcrudities' a while back. Trying to emulate such human activities
in short code is really interesting.
http
wondering about things like the body of code, the coded body, the decoded
body...
- Alan
On Thu, 2 Jul 2009, Pall Thayer wrote:
Hi Alan,
One of the primary reasons that I've redone a number of known pieces
by other artists in these Microcodes is more to point out the
difference between code
...
- Alan
On Thu, 2 Jul 2009, Pall Thayer wrote:
Hi Alan,
One of the primary reasons that I've redone a number of known pieces
by other artists in these Microcodes is more to point out the
difference between code as a medium and other media. So the point
isn't necessarily to emulate the work
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