you'll have to send an email from your new address to
> netsurf-users-j...@netsurf-browser.org
It might be easier to use
https://listmaster.pepperfish.net/postorius/lists/netsurf-users.netsurf-browser.org/
as you can unsubscribe your current address at the same time.
(That link is from http
S front-end -- which, aside from being relatively complex, also took
us into areas best described as "sparsely documented" and hence fragile if
the OS developers change the way things work.
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wo mailing lists, one of which you don't have posting
rights to.
The answer to your original question is yes, by the way, because 3.10 Dev is
the ongoing test build version after 3.9 was taken out and released. 3.9 is
the stable release, while 3.10 is the potentially unstable versions arising
from o
n deleted? I
have a recollation of corrupt Unicode cache (RUFL) data preventing the
browser from starting.
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g on that -- as Chris says, it has been many
years.
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aying "limited by available
memory"...
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's operation.
This obviously means that there's a limit to the size of URL that you can
type in, too. But that's it. You can follow any length of link in NetSurf,
and launch any length of URL via the launch protocols.
All subject to that 4GB limit, of course.
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ust a series of suitable GET variables.
Allocating the necessary memory is the correct way to do it, yes.
> A number would be easier! How many?
As long as the URL is? My memory is that the RISC OS GUI might apply some
limits, but that the core probably doesn't.
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3%A9n
> y-%C3%BCltet%C3%A9si-a-vid%C3%A9ken-m/jpg
>
> whereupon it works into the apps.
Is % actually a valid character in a Fileswitch filename? It represents the
CSD, and is included in the reserved characters list, so I'd suggest not.
So NetSurf is correct to replace % with _ wh
nter, adding a
different action to Adjust double-click is likely to be problematic from a
technical point of view because RISC OS won't allow the two actions to be
differentiated.
RISC OS sends a single click, followed shortly after by a double-click --
exactly what's required for a selection m
; like etc. I have looked at the forecast on an android but the site looks
> quite different. An earlier NS shows the same lack of icons.
>
> NS 3421 Iyo 5.18
Which weather site is this?
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ispatch I take Messenger out of the loop, we know it
> > hasn't anything to do with Messenger.
>
> OK, thanks, Jan-Jaap, understood. Got me worried there. I'll stick with
> Pluto.
Pluto will very likely be doing exactly the same behind the scenes.
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quot; being ticked ;-).
No, as Rob said:
"The System Merge tool won't overwrite newer versions with older".
Don't merge !System manually. Ever. (Unless you have a very good reason to,
and know what you're doing.)
:-)
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sh.net/pipermail/netsurf-users-netsurf-browser.org/2015-August/013219.html
...or...
http://bugs.netsurf-browser.org/mantis/view.php?id=2343
...for the background.
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On 13 Aug, Jim Nagel wrote in message
ede9a0f254@abbeypress.net:
Steve Fryatt wrote on 12 Aug:
On 12 Aug, cj wrote in message
54f1f9a962ch...@chris-johnson.org.uk:
In article cd18f7f154@abbeypress.net,
Jim Nagel nets...@abbeypress.co.uk wrote:
Warning
On 12 Aug, cj wrote in message
54f23593afch...@chris-johnson.org.uk:
In article mpro.nszgmv00xukt901zy.li...@stevefryatt.org.uk,
Steve Fryatt li...@stevefryatt.org.uk wrote:
I'm not sure it's that odd.
What is odd is that out of hundreds of zip files on the hard drive, only a
very
-blocking error dialogues, so WimpLog won't ever see
the errors reported.
In terms of bug reporting, NetSurf's own log is far more detailed and far
more useful.
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of it.
Indeed. Two people were interested, I gave up a few evenings when I should
have been doing other things to document some bits and pieces as an
introduction to the RISC OS front-end before they lost that interest, a
couple of patches came in... and then it went quiet.
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for someone wanting to get involved with the RISC OS
front-end. The offers of guidance that I made to Glen a couple of months
back still stand for anyone interested in picking it up.
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writable?
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comparison using another browser (on another OS), to
confirm that it's actually NetSurf and not the sites themselves? For many
sites, your connection speed won't be the limiting factor.
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broken, because it isn't supporting the Block Transfer
Protocol correctly.
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of contiguous free memory available there), so problems do need
investigating.
Proper bug reports, with full log files, are essential, however.
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errors or having other side-effects.
Our options are to get Cache from http://www.snowstone.org.uk/riscos/
fixed, and continue using it, or create our own simpler solution.
Steve Fryatt: any thoughts on this?
Well, I can't reproduce the problems that people are seeing. That's on
RISC OS 5
the facts, not complaining except I did
moan about the bug tracker.
From a post on the dev list, there would seem to have been hardware issues
affecting the bug tracker over the weekend (which are now fixed). Maybe try
again?
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this at 13:59. I received a confirmatory email at 14:16 saying
the issue has been referred to Steve Fryatt. Apparently the problem is:
Caused by failed assertion in RISC OS mouse handling:
riscos/mouse.c, line 183: ro_mouse_track_start: Assertion failed:
ro_mouse_poll_end_callback == NULL
to understand and maintain the mouse
tracking code, as part of fixing issues in this area which came to light
with the new treeview displays (such as the hotlist).
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behaviour seems to be correct.
Obviously the other platforms that NetSurf runs on might have other views.
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On 30 Jun, Christopher Dewhurst wrote in message
0f86116453.cri...@cdewhurst2010.btinternet.com:
In message mpro.mp5l7i03cirzk01ob.li...@stevefryatt.org.uk
Steve Fryatt li...@stevefryatt.org.uk wrote:
Probably not a good approach for the long term, as the disc map clearly
directory to
populate.
Probably not a good approach for the long term, as the disc map clearly
isn't very happy. I'd endorse the advice to check/fix the disc with
DiscKnight, before doing much else with the system.
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half a
line often isn't.
I see there's actually some tooltip code buried in the local history GUI for
the RISC OS front-end (turn them on via the option in Interface). Can a
front-end find out from the core that the pointer is hovering over a link,
form submission button or similar?
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on. However, I'm much more likely to
remember what needs to be done if the issues are all in the bug tracker.
Thanks.
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move the focus every time you dragged a window or
brought it to the top of the heap.
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get five minutes -- although that may not now be for a few weeks.
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Technology USB stack.
Correct. HID also complicates things, as it removes some of the quirks of
the vanilla RISC OS 5 scroll wheel support. I'm fairly sure that I tested
NetSurf with and without HID running, however.
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when the app doesn't take scroll events as
quickly as you produce them. See also scrolling via PageUp/Down.
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forced off on those builds).
Otherwise I'm not aware of any other mechanism for discerning which of the
versions you have (other than a much larger !RunImage on disc!)
Don't the infobox strings differ? I've not got RISC OS in front of me at
present, so I can't check.
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.
Please remember to enable javascript via the nice shiny new
configuration interface Steve Fryatt has provided.
The configuration interface in my 740 is different from the shiny new one
in Steve's picture.
It will do: that wasn't my picture. Chris G did the version in the picture
build with Javascript
yet (something else to sort out), I haven't definitely confirmed that it all
works as intended beyond that.
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Saturday 20 April 2013
http
) *all* of
NetSurf's data inside !Boot on the affected system? There's some in Choices
and some in Scrap.
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hotlist.
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Choices$Write correctly in it's theme install,
although that's just based on a quick read through the code in question.
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Saturday 28 April 2012
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before I have the time to do it and I'll forget otherwise.
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of, at
least) runs quite happily under at least some RPCemu setups, whether or not
networking is active. The RISC OS front-end gets tested like that quite
frequently, so I'd probably notice if it didn't work.
So yes, a logfile will be needed.
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investigate
when I get the chance. As I said in my first post, scroll wheel support
on RISC OS is something of a minefield... :-(
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http
On 19 Dec, Brian Howlett wrote in message
065e1f4452.br...@bhowlett.plus.net:
On 19 Dec, Steve Fryatt wrote:
This could be more of an HID feature than a NetSurf one: I'll
investigate when I get the chance. As I said in my first post, scroll
wheel support on RISC OS is something
worked pre-ROL), then things will still work
on unframed sites. With frames, however, you'll see the effect described by
Roger above: the whole site will simply scroll out of view and leave a blank
work area in its place.
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)
Yes, but (as has just been pointed out to me this evening) only if the
dialogue is opened via the menu. Press F4 and it stays on the screen as
intended.
That gives a pretty good clue as to where the problem lies, I think, so I'll
look into it when I've got a few minutes.
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that I'm not logged
in.
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interested or affected. Is there are reason not to mail the
developer mailing list and thereby catch everyone in one go?
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, let me know.
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in
the logfile.
Hmm. It doesn't here. If you load NetSurf, go to a page, try that action
twice, does it do it? Or do you need to have been browsing around first?
Should I just submit a logfile anyway?
Please.
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On 11 Oct, Dr Peter Young wrote in message
9c238b2052.pnyo...@pnyoung.ormail.co.uk:
On 11 Oct 2011 Steve Fryatt li...@stevefryatt.org.uk wrote:
Hmm. It doesn't here. If you load NetSurf, go to a page, try that
action twice, does it do it? Or do you need to have been browsing
generally at about 230-ish characters. This wasn't that
problem.
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(Iconv, Unicode etc) are actually changed.
Surely NetSurf should RMEnsure the minimum versions of the modules it
needs in the !Run file?
AFAIAA, it does.
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as it took
the machine out.
Example sites would be useful: I've been running r12912 on RO5.16 all
evening and using it for work, and it's been totally stable (he says,
tempting fate).
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a bug report, so that I don't forget).
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with higher 'r' numbers) will still contain the same changes
unless one of the developers specifically undoes them again for some reason.
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On 28 Apr, Tim Powys-Lybbe wrote in message
mpro.lkd2te2hm0068@powys.org:
On 28 Apr at 11:26, Steve Fryatt li...@stevefryatt.org.uk wrote:
Just download the current build. You can see what rev it's up to from
the entries under Recent SVN Activity further down the page: as I
On Sun, April 24, 2011 12:13 pm, Brian wrote:
So, what was the reason this was removed?
It stopped working after other changes to the browser core, IIRC (and if I
don't, then I'm sure I'll be corrected :-).
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question...
Untried, but a quick glance at the source code suggests that the RISC OS
front-end should.
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of the most recent fix, because the
problem that affected certificates could also affect the other tree
windows in more extreme cases (if the text line was wider than your
monitor).
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On 20 Mar, Steve Fryatt wrote in message
mpro.lid0vi07nzp6o01ji.li...@stevefryatt.org.uk:
On 18 Mar, Jim Nagel wrote in message
286dfbb551@nails.abbeypress.net:
there appears to be no way to scroll right to read the rest of the text
in the inner pane of this warning generated
on, and has that been getting ignored?
If so, did it perhaps break around r11774 when I fiddled with the download
filename code and forgot (amongst other things) to check the strip
extension option, then fix itself around r12127 when someone kindly
corrected my mistakes for me?
;-)
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reproduce the problem on 5.16 either.
A log file from an affected copy of NetSurf might help (although that's
not a promise that anything will get fixed soon: it depends on what's
wrong and what the fix entails). Don't post it to this list, though...
;-)
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On 6 Mar, Roger Darlington wrote in message
8a4fb5af51.roger...@rogerarm.freeuk.com:
On 6 Mar 2011, Steve Fryatt wrote:
Do you mean that you accidentally click Menu over the browser window,
and then accidentally traverse to Page-Export-Text, or that you have
the Export Text dialogue
; r11907 and r11922 on the Iyonix don't.
A bit more specifically, it stops working in r11877 having been OK in
r11876. I'm afraid that's probably as far as I can usefully go without a
very steep learning curve, though.
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to an unrelated issue, so
there's not much to find. See the Favicons thread.
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On 21 Feb, Martin Bazley wrote in message
e21724a951.mar...@blueyonder.co.uk:
Firstly, congratulations and many thanks to Steve Fryatt fo his sterling
work on the RISC OS toolbar implementation. While, as mentioned on the
wiki, user-facing improvements aren't much in evidence, I
style=font-family:monospace does work,
...and that's CSS, included inline in a style attribute.
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interface as it looks as if it could
be useful on the slower hardware.
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at a
bit less than SA RiscPC speed on my system. I get:
Incremental Non-Incremental
URL 1: 5.7s 4.5s
URL 2: 7.7s 8.5s
I'm using a broadband connection. What processor and internet connection do
you have with the RiscPC, Richard?
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inefficient overall. (I
don't know for sure as I don't know that much about the layout engine in
NetSurf, but your logic seems faulty to me).
Also, define any browser compatible. These days, I'd take that to mean
lots of CSS and not Fresco-friendly; YMMV.
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to understand the browser window content stuff better to risk
attempting a fix, I'm afraid: I'm not sure how much the search still needs
to tidy up at that point.
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Saturday 16 April
to store the URL and terminator in. I'm afraid that I'm not immediately
about to fix that, because I'm already working on that code in other ways at
present.
2. There is a hardcoded limit of 399 bytes for an ANT URL file's contents,
but you haven't (quite) hit that with your address.
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.
That seems to always have been the case: I've finally understood what the
scroll code was (or wasn't) doing. It's the kind of thing that could well
fall under the work I'm doing away from the trunk at present, so it's
noted but any fix may not appear in test builds immediately.
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is removed).
SparkFS, which I expect most of us use, gets it right.
I suspect that there's some RISC OS-side jiggery-pokery going on there
with the MIME Map or DOSMap, then.
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still
want to get 2.29, even if you need 26-bit).
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the help pages to work
for one application.
Any suggestions for a better prog any one?
A more up-to-date copy (as I'm fairly sure this 'feature' was fixed ages
ago)?
InfoZip?
http://www.starfighter.acornarcade.com/mysite/utilities.htm
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tell us:
- What OS you're using (full version, please)?
- What screen mode you're using (colour depth in particular)?
And please try the latest build just in case: fixes to the tree code seem to
be coming thick and fast at present.
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. If it was outside, Shift/ Ctrl/ Alt would
close the edit.
But use the latest build, because there have been other fixes to treeview
and textarea code since then.
Does r11090 sort the wierd things?
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the
fraction shown.
Patches gratefully received.
If you're not a programmer, then consider contacting Steve Fryatt and
persuading him of your correctness.
Not much persuasion necessary: this has niggled me for ages, too. :-)
r11081 tries to use a modified moving average, which if I remember my
on this list:
http://vlists.pepperfish.net/pipermail/netsurf-users-netsurf-browser.org/2010-October/009732.html
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/RISC_OS_frontend
has a list of the main things that are now broken. Reports of bugs are
still very useful (and if in doubt, it may be best to err on the side of
presuming a bug).
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it does do for a .zip file. Is this a riscos configuration thing or
Netsurf.
It's probably a server issue: the server is reporting the file's MIME type
as text (because it doesn't know what .arc is), and so NetSurf tries to
display it.
Shift-click on the link to force a save box to open.
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be relevant, perhaps? There's
likely to be less getting written to NetSurf's log file now, at least.
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and not the text itself?
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is with EFP.
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problems, the sooner it will be possible to turn off detailed
logging again.
And as also mentioned here, the logs compress very well if you need to keep
copies of any.
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or abort as
appropriate.
Where is the crash coming from (NetSurf, or the scrolling module), on what
OS, and with what mouse support utilities (if any)? HID is known to crash
out on scrolling with certain types of window, for example.
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On Thu, July 22, 2010 12:40 pm, Dr Peter Young wrote:
As I want to be kind to my hard drive, I haven't dared go beyond
10649. Sorry, developers!
In what way do you expect the logging to be unkind to your hard drive?
Discs are designed for use; that's what they're for.
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NetSurf down, i.e., Continue worked.
Could you tell us what printer driver you're using? That's a pretty vital
piece of information when reporting printing bugs.
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On 30 Apr, Steve Fryatt wrote in message
mpro.l1ph4n06o4rf401yx.li...@stevefryatt.org.uk:
On 30 Apr, Dave Symes wrote in message
511035e204d...@triffid.co.uk:
In article mpro.l1pale02xmifk01yx.li...@stevefryatt.org.uk,
Steve Fryatt li...@stevefryatt.org.uk wrote:
I can
the address to.
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I am nearest, but I will not be able to attend due to other commitments.
I'll be there as myself, but would be happy to represent NetSurf to some
degree if that would help. It wouldn't be a separate stand, though -- I've
already got one.
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http
On 2 Jul, Jim Nagel wrote in message
3e788d3051@nails.ukonline.co.uk:
Michael Drake wrote on 2 Jul:
This should work:
file:///ADFS::IYO4.$/~Mine/WFF/!WildFlowers/ [...]
but 'tis curious that the dot in IYO4.$ is OK?
That dot isn't a directory seperator, is it?
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On 18 May, Tim Hill wrote in message
51196f11fe...@timil.com:
In article 56328.82.109.43.222.1274200724.squir...@91.84.211.154, Steve
Fryatt li...@stevefryatt.org.uk wrote:
[snip]
And, for the record, once things have stabilised following 2.5, I hope
there will still be work done
, although the headline was a lillte tabloid (and I pointed
that out at the time).
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and
crashes.
I'll leave it to someone else to comment on if there's something wrong with
the way NetSurf is dealing with the supplied Content-Type headers in this
case; it's not something I'm familiar with.
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, which suggests it might be something more specific to your setup.
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