John is quite right to postulate that the fingering WD would have used
would not be that of today --- I don't think the old GHB used two roof
tiles and a bit of string for a reed in his time !
There is far too much evidence pointing to the the idea of an 8ve and
two or three extras up top --
Hi Matt,
Could be, though I won't use facebook for the sake of my personal
information ( 35years computing experience) , it may be just summer hols
and many families are away
regards
Dave
On 8/15/2012 6:17 PM, Matt Seattle wrote:
And where has everybody gone? There's little activ
Hi all, the song whose last line was "the reel of tullochgorum" was
writ by non-other than the Rev John Skinner way back in "the good
ol'days - 1721-1807. There may just be a tie in to smallpipes because
the first line is Come gie's a sang Montgomery cried - ie the
Montgomery set ---
hav
I have the idea that if one looks at the buttons on coats and waistcoats
( if present) one can solve the problem of whether the image is true or
not. Ladies have buttons on the left and Gents on the right.
good spotting
Dave Singleton
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T THE VALUE OF A GOOD REED --- coupled with a good ear !!
have fun
Dave S
Gibbons, John wrote:
The survey may not tell Malcolm as much as he hopes.
As well as 'where are the holes?' we also need to know 'is the note
sharp or flat?'.
It's not just size that matters - in
me to search for them --
Ciao
Dave S
Barry Say wrote:
I am writing a reply to Malcolm's message, but in the meantime, I have a
related question which I hope that readers of this list can help with.
The Northumbrian Smallpipes are unusual in that they have a very small bore
compare
Placing myself as a not so good player ( I just don't practise often
enough), I like to listen to most of the varieties that we now have.
Some of these sources will dry up, others will fluff and die, a couple
may dig in and be around for a long while. Thus we have the spice of
"life" but there
oops
guarranttee or so
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Francis -- how about neck oil for the many and gunpowder lapsong for the few
Dave
Francis Wood wrote:
Can anybody suggest a suitable oil to pour on these troubled waters?
Ideally, it should be capable of spreading evenly and fairly as well
as making the tone of everything seem much brighter. S
I sincerely hope this is not meant to have the xenophobic overtones that
can be read between the lines --- there are many avid fans of NSP who
have no chance of getting to listen to the present interpretation of the
tradition -- they only have cd ,mp3, etc surely this is not tradition.
Jack A
Hi Anthony, let me quote a passage showing that perhaps todays tradition
started from the dots and yes I agree "Keep your ears open"
ciao
Dave
A LETTER TO
HIS GRACE THE DUKE OF NORTHUMBERLAND ON THE
ANCIENT NORTHUMBRIAN MUSIC,
ITS COLLECTION AND PRESERVATION.
BY THOMAS DOUBLEDAY.
*' Nor
That's a bugger, now us out here won't get to see them over there doin
it to the rest over wherever
TIC
Dave
Julia Say wrote:
On 29 May 2009, Francis Wood wrote:
Some further clarification would be useful. As I read the message, the
list is to discuss NPS matters, i.e. issues pertaining
Is it really this dead after the what me mail ? or has a lurgy got settled
Dave S
Wayne Cripps wrote:
I should also add that the NSP mail list can no longer
transmit computer viruses.
Wayne
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I,m sure it's online somewhere Francis, but my question is who actually
learnt these tunes from the tradition --- ie from someone who learnt
them from someone whose knew someone who learnt from Peacock ? do we
have anyone -- if so could they please set up a master class
Dave S (Tong
we have, do and will
continue to have two separate methodologies-- they both have a valid
raison d'etre both supply a much needed service and occasionally one or
the other crosses over and makes a splash
Vive la difference vive la musique
Dave S
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Hi Ross,
Thanks very much for the thought !!
very useful
Dave Singleton
Ross Anderson wrote:
I've scanned Peacock and put it online at http://www.piob.info.
I worked from Francis Wood's copy, for the loan of which I'm very
grateful. I'm sure Google Books would have got round to it eventually
Hi John,
How's about C# .net and Dflat (Dr Dobb's Callisthenics & Orthodontics)
the former for the pro's and the latter for the con's ...
Of course the pro's KNOW exactly what we must do, how we should do it
and all the other arguements are mere piffle and squeak ---
ciao
Dave
gibbonssoi.
yup well said, both Colin and Philip
It does seem that the tension, verve and perspicacity have dwindled
somewhat, what we need is someone to put a bit of dino in the - list
again
ds
Philip Gruar wrote:
Well said "colin" (Hill, of course)
I have been reading this list (both lists)
Hi Wayne, How are you doing ? Still playing lute ? and decrypting early
music --
Thanks for the work and good wishes for everything --
Dave
wayne cripps wrote:
Hi Folks -
Thanks to Richard for reminding people that this list, the "dartmouth"
list,
is not affiliated with the Northumbrian Pi
Hi Julia,
here's one ---
[1]Tune Req: Ganglat Fran Mockfjard
Gaerdebylaaten appears in this book on the same page as another popular
Swedish Tune Aeppelbolaaten (Appelbolaten). I also have Nick Barber's
"English Choice" .
Julia Say wrote:
Can anyone tell me where the letters
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Thanks Tony,
Nice -- but watch out for the young ladies left wrist -- it's a prime
candidate for RSI
maybe a new fatter bag ???
regards
Dave
Anthony Robb wrote:
Here's a bit choyt for the bairns.
[1]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vOg93tdh0Ms
Anthony
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References
1. http://w
Responsorial ?
rosspi...@aol.com wrote:
Has anyone got the name of the musical form of the question and answer
type that is the basis for sea shanties and our local song 'Dolly Ah'
and more interestingly the two pipe tunes 'Lang Stayed Away' and
'Highland Laddie'(first two parts) in Peacock's
Hi Francis, isn't that todays' paradox -- a working party -- starts ok
but swiftly declines in effectiveness until as the percentage get higher
things degenerate into rest, monotone and finally a theoretical silence
-- with the odd ( generally very odd ) blowout
good one ---
Dave
Francis Wo
Wunnerbar eppes vun déi schéi sprooch vun hei ze léiesen
kriit's d'och schéi greiss vun Useldéng
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melsmaerch, Mozart, etc etc
Tra 4 now ( confirmed dots supporter)
Dave S (
Anthony Robb wrote:
Dave
I did have one but the wheels fell off.
Anthony
--- On *Mon, 2/11/09, Dave S //* wrote:
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Subject: [NSP] schei greiss
To: nsp@cs.dartmouth.edu
Date: Monday, 2 Nove
like this ." or
am I mistaken in thinking that all the top musicians play(ed) with like
minded/musicked people never corrected vocally a tune that did not run
to their ideas.
mFG
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Yup -- that's the one
beat me to it -- I was still looking for Jul's
Thanks
Dave S
Dru Brooke-Taylor wrote:
Is the tune on these links it?
http://lb.wikipedia.org/wiki/Feierwon
or
http://lb.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fichier:De_Feierwon.png
It's completely unfamiliar to me.
D
Hello Colin,
You are spot on :-) but it was the "wedding night" finale --- where
things were a little in tune, a little frenetic, then syncope then built
to a crescendo and finally resolved into gentle snores -- great fun and
well played I thought!
Dave S
rosspi...@aol.com wrote:
Hi Ernie,
Seasons greetings; how about Smallpiper -- Mystery / Mysterious smallpiper
ciao
Dave S
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Hi Anthony,
Windz 7 does not yet have sufficient drivers or debugging to be fully
stable, and it will take a while for the third parties to write the low
level drivers, when and if they get access to the system hooks.
I suggest you boot from a win xp non-install (boot sys cd) cd or linux
non-
Hi Anita,
not being a Grauniad reader I have to guess the BAE is BEE Arable
Entrepreneurs or some such biz
Dave Singleton
Anita Evans wrote:
We're in trouble - according to a letter in the Guardian newspaper,
BAE is 'racing to capture the domestic UK drones market'
Anita
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Hi Richard,
Other slight annoyances occuring when messing with bags/neck is
"resonance" or a change in the resistance to airflow.
Some bag/neck shapes give rise to top A and top B sounding flat at which
point the unsuspecting will start chopping or scraping reeds - BEWARE
Dave Singleton
Mr Bewick must have just visited Barrow-in -Fairness, where the wind
blows hard enough
to turn dogs inside out, so they look like surgical gloves ( according
to Mr Mike Harding)
Francis Wood wrote:
Mr Bewick, the ingenious wood-engraver, has put on record a fact regarding rats
nearly as mysti
Hi,
arry mentioned "between the nut and the bridge" OK but if the nut gets
tight does the pitch go up or down?
ciao
Dave
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Sorry missed me B didn I
Dave S wrote:
Hi,
arry mentioned "between the nut and the bridge" OK but if the nut gets
tight does the pitch go up or down?
ciao
Dave
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Hi,
Does anyone have a list of the open tunes and the year they were used
for competition (where) going back 50 years ?
I asked Julia maybe 15 years ago but she didn't have time to follow up
on it.
She mentioned that she had some in abc so if they exist I would most
appreciate it
Dave Single
ny memories out there it would be mighty appreciated
Dave
Julia Say wrote:
On 5 Apr 2010, Dave S wrote:
Does anyone have a list of the open tunes and the year they were used
for competition (where) going back 50 years ?
Dave:
Do you mean the "set" tunes - ones which
Hello all,
Can some kind person pass on a more meaningful, corrected text for the
Chantry to Ann -- or is this the level that passes for English in
todays' world.
extracted home page text follows:-
*
Housed in Morpeth's medieval Chantry buildings since 1987, the Bagpipe
Museum his home to a
Hi Anthony,
Don't miss the idea that one can clearly hear the beat note between
mis-tuned drones with the Saymulator. This does actually give a target,
and knowing that pressure controls all, in the real world, may well help
beginners to start to use their ears.
ciao
Dave
Anthony Robb wrote:
Hi Tim,
it should be without, but then yesterday was once today, tomorrow will
turn into today -- in time
Dave
tim rolls BT wrote:
Hi Dave,
Would that be today's world, rather than todays' world?
Tim
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Hi Julia,
Could you send me a zip fiile with all the bits ? this is right up my
street, I used to work in 6502 & 65c12 code. I may be able to set up and
emulation for it.
ciao
Dave
Julia Say wrote:
On 20 Apr 2010, neil smith wrote:
I don't know whether any readers know (or care)
Original Message
Subject: Re: [NSP] Re: Where hast though been all the night?
Date: Thu, 04 Nov 2010 18:33:22 +0100
From: Dave S [1]
To: Matt Seattle [2]
Hey Matt,
carry on for me -- it's well worth the bandwidth, plus we get to see
som
Francis, many thanks for the tip -- I don't often get to see the radio
times !!
Dave Singleton
On 11/23/2010 9:57 AM, Francis Wood wrote:
BBC Radio 7 is broadcasting 'The Secret History of Bagpipes' at 14.30 today
Described as 'Tom Morton investigates Pipes and Politics', this item m
bill, i programmed it on satellite at 15:30 european time -bbc r7
ciao
dave
On 11/23/2010 2:18 PM, Bill wrote:
Bill . . . are you looking at the correct schedule? This is on BBC Radio 7,
not Radio Scotland
Francis, My first message quotes the url for BBC Radio7 schedules for tod
Hi Richard,
[1]http://books.google.lu/books?id=VoQXAQAAIAAJ&printsec=frontcover&dq=
%22essays+in+musicology%22&source=bl&ots=ITEFvN0Hii&sig=iIvdnoOEE_CRl_u
bQ_wRLOiSuyQ&hl=en&ei=cRD4TOSQMY2dOrX-kbkI&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=resul
t&resnum=1&ved=0CBEQ6AEwAA#v=onepage&q&f=false
The li
the pipes
express his wishes.
Thanks (we have winter here as well!)
Dave S
On 12/6/2010 2:14 AM, inky-adrian wrote:
Hello all
this instrument does not lack ability, it lacks players who can't play
in the correct method; not many can do that. Expression is emphasised
in precision. I&
tune their drone reeds to the pressure they like to use to have
their chanter "ring true"
Dave S
On 1/11/2011 1:40 PM, Colin and Cheryl McNaught wrote:
Following on from these sage comments, does anyone have ideas about
what causes some drones to be significantly more pre
Hi Ian,
Check out "Shotley Sword-makers" - it may have be a link to the spa
and the German sword makers who emigrated in the time of King William
Tschüss
Dave s
On 2/1/2011 5:09 AM, Ian Lawther wrote:
I've just noticed a tune called "German Spa" in Bewick a
et. I
therefore set up for A=440( as close as is possible) and like the way it
sounds.
As for re-reeded pipes that get modded at the top end -- that would be a
staple conicity variation, thus not just the old reed that was in it, it
has to be the original makers staple --
Dave S
On 2/9/2011 7:
scope for NSP), so it may save a chanter fill and re-drill
operation by "spooning" in the bore around the hole (let's say a bottom
E that is too high).
Dave S
On 2/10/2011 11:38 AM, Julia Say wrote:
On 9 Feb 2011, Philip Gruar wrote:
Well, quite. One can both hear and feel the dri
equi-distant and two octaves in tune --
always glad of snippits from the makers --
Dave S
On 2/11/2011 11:32 AM, Dave Shaw wrote:
#snip
In an Irish chanter bore if you enlarge the bore round a tone hole,
the first octave sharpens and the second octave flattens.
Getting the right balan
I would recommend Uwe Seitz who lives near HeilBrunn in Germany, his set
are A440 F so one can play at concert pitch with a consort/ensemble/ etc
and push a bit for F+
Dave Singleton
On 3/23/2011 3:35 PM, John Dally wrote:
You want us to recommend a maker? ha, ha, ha.
On Wed, Mar 23, 2011 a
Thanks John,
Dave Singleton
On 4/30/2011 11:22 AM, John Liestman wrote:
I have decided to "set my book free", so you can now download The
Northumbrian Smallpipes Tutor from my website at [1]www.liestman.com
for free. I am no longer offering the book in a printed and bound
versio
Hi Philip,
This is another idea -- the bottom keys ( D - Eb I think) allow choice
of finger -
regards
Dave S
On 5/5/2011 11:10 AM, Philip Gruar wrote:
> a.d.s wrote
>> Clough played in A maj and C maj. The arrangement of the Clough
>> arrangement of key's was C low at
live music
live.
If Alice were to choose a second instrument I would recommend Bassoon,
where agile thumbs are a necessary part of playing.
Anyway the list has been quiet
Thumbs up
Dave S
On 5/22/2011 3:25 AM, inky-adrian wrote:
Hello all,
to play so many notes with the thumb? What
Hi John,
I agree wholeheartedly -- I can't think of a more wondrous thing than
pipes played with emotion and "soul" -- if they are in tune that is ---
Dave S
On 5/23/2011 6:52 PM, John Dally wrote:
Melodeon.net is a remarkably interesting and helpful resource if you'
fairly large abc's -- excellent for practise as it has a
metronome
Try it out --
enjoy
Dave S
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Just checking my send connection
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Original Message
Subject: Re: [NSP] divorce
Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2011 14:16:16 +0200
From: Dave S [1]
To: Francis Wood [2]
Hi Francis,
I concur with all of your points, it's not bad at all that there are now
3 places to pick up
Hi Inky,
-- glad you keep one eye open and nope I can't play proper - I don't
have the wrapper of the tradition anywhere near - so I don't even bother
with any form of competition, I just like great instruments.
Dave S
On 6/16/2011 8:08 PM, Inky- Adrian wrote:
The annual
Hi Inky-Adrian,
This now brings us full circle -- doesn't it
Please define "Play" and "Play the NSPs"
This can of worms just lost it's lid
Viva la Vida
Dave S
On 6/17/2011 2:22 AM, Inky- Adrian wrote:
Anthony, can you play the NSPs?
--
To ge
Sent: Friday, June 17, 2011 10:15 AM
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Cc: nsp@cs.dartmouth.edu
Subject:RE: [NSP] Re: The Dartmouth Competitions
Please define "can" ;-)
>This CAN of worms just lost it's lid
&
Love it -- copulating skeletons eh bien 'enri c'est formidable
Thanks for that Barry
cheers
Dave S
On 6/17/2011 10:44 PM, barr...@nspipes.co.uk wrote:
Quoting Francis Wood :
Ah. harpsichord duets. The sound of skeletons copulating on a
corrugated tin roof.
(Boult? Arn
his pipes -- fabulous
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oops --- creating having problems with seing at the moment
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Hi Ian -- I think there are some books by Derek Hobbs on the NSP site
cheers
Dave S
On 6/18/2011 6:59 PM, Ian Lawther wrote:
I know there have been some books published in the past that include
tune arrangements for Northumbrian pipes and other instruments though
as someone who is normally a
Colin, that would be popapoms then, er, hope there are no cheerleaders
affronted
Dave
On 6/21/2011 3:31 PM, cwhill wrote:
So popadoms then :)
Colin Hill
On 21/06/2011 12:18, Gibbons, John wrote:
When I was in a choir, a composer of a piece we'd commissioned explained
legato, poco staccat
nah Tim, propa poms
Dave
On 6/21/2011 3:54 PM, Tim Rolls wrote:
Popapoms would be the Australian version then?
Tim
On 21 Jun 2011, at 14:44, Dave S wrote:
Colin, that would be popapoms then, er, hope there are no cheerleaders affronted
Dave
On 6/21/2011 3:31 PM, cwhill wrote:
So popadoms
Hello Barry,
That seems like a very fair and well thought out description of the
state of the art
it's clear to me, but then the mind can be like a parachute
Dave S
On 6/22/2011 11:56 PM, barr...@nspipes.co.uk wrote:
In the instruction book published by the Northumbrian Small
Etymology+Origin of rant (verb)
1598, from Du. randten "talk foolishly, rave," of unknown origin (cf.
Ger. rantzen "to frolic, spring about"). The noun is first attested
1649, from the verb. Ranters "antinomian sect which arose in England
c.1645" is attested from 1651; applied 1823 to
Hi,
The Arethusa is from a musical farce called "Lock and Key" and in the
British Minstrelsy the melody is assigned to Shield
Dave S
On 7/15/2011 2:21 PM, Anthony Robb wrote:
Hello Matt
Lovely!
--- On Fri, 15/7/11, Matt Seattle
wrote:
From: Matt Seattle
does
anyone have vol 2 or later with it in ?
sods to the music moguls - keep music live
Dave
On 7/15/2011 3:57 PM, Francis Wood wrote:
On 15 Jul 2011, at 14:48, Dave S wrote:
The Arethusa is from a musical farce called "Lock and Key" and in the British
Minstrelsy the melody is ass
from the last couple of mail it's a critiques slam dunk
Dave
H . . . Dunk and disorderly.
Francis
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Hi,
It's probably a lighthouse on a promontary called "Da Slockit" in the
Shetland Islands -- super tune on NSP.
Tom Anderson wrote some superb melodies for violin --- and the Kielder
is a village and a river
Dave S
On 7/15/2011 10:43 PM, Kevin wrote:
Hello to All,
i
Thanks John, for the correction -- I had assumed and was wrong - sorry
Kevin !
Dave S
On 7/16/2011 12:00 AM, Gibbons, John wrote:
Kevin,
Tom Anderson, who wrote it, explained in an interview in 1970, printed in his
book ''Ringing Strings''
''I was coming o
Hi all,
Some piping to listen to
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LhSjIanP9EA&feature=player_detailpage
ciao
Dave S
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if anyone wants a copy let me know and I will check with Barry/Tim
to get it on site somewhere
best
Dave S
On 7/29/2011 11:16 AM, Anthony Robb wrote:
> Hello all
> I've been reluctant to vote on this since our house is fighting back
> whilst we put in a new kitchen, dow
Hi -- I have posted the Mad Moll on Northumbrianpipers forum so all
interested can have a look at an early version of the tune.
Quite possibly it is a droneless undefined key tune -- I have no idea
and am not qualified to hazard a quess
Dave
On 8/1/2011 7:37 PM, Matt Seattle wrote:
On M
d2g2 |e2c2 c2e2 |d2G2 G2AB
|c2E2 E2FG :|
ABcd e2fg |decB ABGF |G3E G2B2 |e2B2 B2e2 |d3A d2e2 |a2e2 e2f2 |g3e g2f2
|e2d2 c2B2 |A2d2 d2fd :|
A2d2 e2fg |a3g gfed |B2G2 GABG |A2D2 D2EF |G2G2 GABc |d6 g2 | e2c2 c2de
|1 d2G2 G2AB |c2B2 A2G2 :|2 dedB GAGE |c2F Fd2G-||G3E G4 |]
ciao
Dave S
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to be asked for) but has it
been orchestrated by anyone?
Thanks
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Hi Francis,
well spotted, and well proportioned what !
Dave
On 8/10/2011 1:23 PM, Francis Wood wrote:
You really have to see this. A great demonstration of playing pressure, from
full glory to Pipers' Droop. Especially the ending:
http://youtu.be/fPedwnc5e_s
Francis
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Hi,
does anyone have a pastoral set for sale, if so reply PM
thanks
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I agree, and the playing great, I hope it continues to reach new heights
and directions for NSP. As was said, it is a chamber instrument ---
Dave S
On 9/16/2011 2:47 PM, Richard Shuttleworth wrote:
On 16 Sep 2011, at 13:18, Richard Shuttleworth wrote:
Why did I get Rachmaninov
Thanks for the link -- time in 1h12'ish to 1h33 on the one I played
Dave S
On 11/18/2011 11:44 AM, Di Jevons wrote:
A fiddler friend of mine has sent me a BBC iplayer link to a Radio
Scotland programme Travelling Folk featuring Chris Stout from Fiddlers
Bid.
Also on the
Hi all,
It has the look of a dudy/hummel from the other side of Poland, but for
certain I wouldn't mind the bellows to help with our fire, it looks like
a dual action type. We ought to ask Pavel Cip (sorry for any spelling
errors in his name)
Dave
On 12/7/2011 11:35 AM, Gibbons, John wrote:
Hi John,
That sounds like a great proposal, brilliant learning possibilities and
history background too
Super
Dave S
On 12/14/2011 9:40 AM, John Dally wrote:
How would the group feel if we changed the present tune/topic/theme
selection process? There must be better ways to make the choice
Reading in F and playing in G is also very worthwhile -- all the
renaissance and boaroque dance music ---
Dave
On 2/29/2012 1:39 PM, Gibbons, John wrote:
Reading in A and playing in G is also a skill worth learning!
It opens up an awful lot of the Scottish repertoire.
John
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