Re: [NTG-context] chapter setup / table of contents

2008-04-16 Thread Wolfgang Schuster
Hi Hraban,

 Never heard about sectionworld before - ConTeXt's sources still
 aren't my usual bedtime reading.

It was only mentioned in one of the release notes.

 I just managed to add outputting the author (not only in the ToC)...

 Could you please show me how to set also the header to Author: Title?

 BTW: Just added rsyncing luaTeX binaries to my daily update script,
 format generation went through, will try more tomorrow...
 (Thanks Mojca, Wolfgang, Hans, Taco, Luigi etc. so far!)

No problem.

Wolfgang
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Re: [NTG-context] chapter setup / table of contents

2008-04-16 Thread Wolfgang Schuster
On Wed, Apr 16, 2008 at 12:32 AM, Henning Hraban Ramm [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I have now:

 \unprotect

 \resetvalue{\??sw\v!chapter}

 \startsetups chapter:list

   \doifsomething{\sectionworldparameter\c!author}
 {\expanded{\writetolist[\v!chapter]
   {\sectionworldparameter\c!author:\space
\sectionworldparameter\c!text}{}}}

   \def\ChapterAuthor{{\rm\tf\sectionworldparameter\c!author}}
   \def\ChapterTitle{{\ss\bfa\sectionworldparameter\c!text}}
   \def\ChapterSubTitle{{\ss\bf\sectionworldparameter\c!subtitle}}

 \stopsetups

 \setupsectionworld  [chapter]
   [setups={chapter:list},
author=]

 \def\ChapterCommand#1#2%
   {\vbox{\ChapterAuthor\crlf\ChapterTitle\crlf\ChapterSubTitle}}

 \let\ChapterAuthor\relax
 \let\ChapterTitle\relax
 \let\ChapterSubTitle\relax

 \protect

 \setuphead  [chapter]
 [incrementnumber=no,
command=\ChapterCommand,
 page=yes,number=no,
 align={flushleft,nothyphenated,verytolerant}
 ]


 The result is about:

 \rm\tfa Author
 \ss\bf Title
 \ss\bfa Subtitle

 instead of (like I defined):

 \rm\tf Author
 \ss\bfa Title
 \ss\bf SubTitle

Add style=, to \setuphead[chapter] because the default value
influence your own settings.

You should also define a new header for the ToC because it use
\title by default and this is also changed with \setuphead[chapter].

Wolfgang
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Re: [NTG-context] chapter setup / table of contents

2008-04-16 Thread Henning Hraban Ramm
2008/4/16, Wolfgang Schuster [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 Add style=, to \setuphead[chapter] because the default value
  influence your own settings.

I tried that before but the results were not satisfying (it was
unclear to me, where it did apply and where not) - I need a different
style for the three lines anyway.

  You should also define a new header for the ToC because it use
  \title by default and this is also changed with \setuphead[chapter].

ok, will try tonight.

Greetlings, Hraban
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Re: [NTG-context] Fonts and other tips for thesis and other academic works

2008-04-16 Thread Henning Hraban Ramm
2008/4/16, Suno Ano [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
  You want to pick a font family which has entire support for mathematical
  glyphs like for example
   - Computer Modern Roman or

That's Latin Modern (LM) nowadays.

   - Lucida Bright

AFAIK there are also math fonts for Palatino (px), Times (tx?),
Helvetica (hx? and commercial) and the Euler fonts that work with
different serif fonts.
And soon (I hope) we'll get math support for the TeXGyre fonts as well.

I'd suggest a readable serif as body font, I like e.g. TeXGyre Schola
(Century Schoolbook) - it's a bit conservative and ill suited for
titling sizes - and perhaps a sans-serif for titlings, e.g. LM Sans or
TeXGyre Heros (Helvetica).

Greetlings, Hraban
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[NTG-context] --autopdf closes all documents

2008-04-16 Thread richard . stephens
I am using Scite on Windows to edit and build my documents.  The most 
annoying behaviour is that when I press F7 to build the document the 
texexec --pdf --autopdf command that it executes closes ALL open pdf 
documents.  So that I have to keep re-opening everything :-(
Is there a way to build which just closes the document you are building 
and leaves others open?

Thanks,

Richard Stephens

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Re: [NTG-context] Unable to generate luatex formats

2008-04-16 Thread John Devereux
John Devereux [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Michael Green [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 I'm getting the following error when running this command: luatools -- 
 ini --verbose --compile cont-en

 [...]

 Hi, I am getting a similar error on debian unstable.

 Following the instructions in the debian README.MarkIV when I get to:

   luatools --ini --compile --verbose cont-en

 I get the error

   ! LuaTeX error [string luas[0]]:1: attempt to call field 'luafilechunk' 
 (a nil value).

 (full listing at end of mail).

 I have not run the ctxtools --update since I m not sure if is
 appropriate for debian...

 Any ideas?

For the record, this now appears to be fixed thanks to help of Norbert
and Mojca.

[...]

Hi Norbert,

I updated debian and sure enough there is a new luatex - was that you?

But this in itself did not fix things immediately.

I then looked at /usr/local/share/texmf and now realise that this
installation is not the debian one, it must have come from something
off the website as you suspect.

I got rid of it with a rm -rf.

I then realised that my manual setting of TEXMF (suggested by Hans)
was wrong - I was only setting it to /usr/local/share/texmf which
omits most of tex. I think then when I generated the lua cache that is
why it could not find the fonts.

So I unset TEXMF and followed your README instructions again - and it
is working now it seems!

(I don't know whether the luatex update was needed or not).

Anyway thank you very much for your help, and Mojca too.


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[NTG-context] followup: arrows in mplib

2008-04-16 Thread Thomas A. Schmitz
I'm afraid arrows look better now, but they're not yet quite what they  
used to be. Test:

\setupcolors[state=start]

\starttext

\startuseMPgraphic{arrowtest}
z1=(0,0) ;
z2=(3cm,0) ;
ahlength := 15pt ;
pickup pencircle scaled 5pt ;
drawarrow z1--z2 withcolor red ;
\stopuseMPgraphic

\useMPgraphic{arrowtest}

\stoptext

Homework for Hans and Taco again? :-)

Thomas
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Re: [NTG-context] small caps and old numbers with open type fonts

2008-04-16 Thread Wolfgang Schuster
On Wed, Apr 16, 2008 at 11:59 AM, Antoine Junod [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi Wolfgang!

 Wolfgang Schuster [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

  On Sun, Apr 13, 2008 at 8:39 PM, Antoine Junod [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Hello list,
 
  I actually use my font as simple as possible with a
  \definefont[boum][MyFont at 12pt]. Is it the problem?
 
  It the same with the \sc command.
 
  \definefont[boum][MyFont at 12pt]
  \definefont[scboum][MyFont*smallcaps at 12pt]

 Wow, beautifull, thanks :) Where is the * and what we can put after
 (smallcaps for example) described? I have the strong feeling to search
 in the wrong place without any result.

The * is used to assign a feature to the font and you could find
a description in font-ini.tex /grep for \definefontfeature) but the better
way is to use typescripts for your fonts.

ConTeXt has the following features predefined:
- default
- smallcaps
- oldstyle

It is also possible to change the features of a font within the text
with the command \setfontfeature{...}.

Wolfgang
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[NTG-context] latest

2008-04-16 Thread Thomas A. Schmitz
Hi all (Hans, Taco...),

thre appears to be a problem with font-syn.lua in the latest release.  
First, there's a typo in l. 291. I think

if not filename and not reloaded and fonts.name.autoreload then

should be

if not filename and not reloaded and fonts.names.autoreload then

But even after correcting that, I still get errors when compiling  
something with Greek in it:

This went wrong: ...al/texlive/texmf-local/tex/context/base/font- 
syn.lua:296: attempt to index local 'name' (a nil value)
report  fontnames: 0 system files identified, 0 hash entries added,  
runtime 0.24 seconds.
to be read again
\relax
\xxdododefinefont ...tspec {#4}\newfontidentifier
   \let  
\localrelativefontsiz...
\fontstrategy ...me \fontclass #2#3#4#5\endcsname
   \tryingfontfalse \fi
inserted text ...yle \fontalternative \fontsize
   \fi \iftryingfont  
\fontstr...
\synchronizefont ...strategy \the \fontstrategies
   \relax \fi  
\iftryingfont \...
argument \getvalue [EMAIL PROTECTED]@ \fontstyle }
\edef \fontstyle  
{\fontstyle }\if...
...
l.68 \startgreek

?
! Emergency stop.

Any pointers?

Thanks! Thomas
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Re: [NTG-context] {Spam?} Degree of MKII isolation from MKIV changes

2008-04-16 Thread Hans Hagen
Michael Santy wrote:
From watching the mailing list, it seems that there's been a bit of
 instability due to recent changes for MKIV.  For the benefit of those of us
 exclusively using MKII, can someone comment on how insulated MKII users are
 from changes made for development on MKIV?

relatively isolated, unless i reimplement mechanisms


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Re: [NTG-context] small caps and old numbers with open type fonts

2008-04-16 Thread Antoine Junod
Hi,

Thanks a lot for your reply :)

Henning Hraban Ramm [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Am 2008-04-13 um 20:39 schrieb Antoine Junod:
 I actually use my font as simple as possible with a
 \definefont[boum][MyFont at 12pt]. Is it the problem?

 Yes. You should set up your fonts with a typescript and access small  
 caps / oldstyle as features.

Okay. I've digged a bit about typescripts. If I've understood what I
read, I need to use the \definefontsysnonym command. But I'm currently
not able to find any doc about \definefontsynonym (a grammar or a
definition or something identical). Texshow does not contain it, nor
does the context commands manual. I've seen a bit about it in the
Fonts in Context manual (mfonts.pdf) but nothing about the 'feature'
as in type-otf.tex [1]. I'll try to copy / paste in an clever way (hum
:) but would be relly interesting if someone could point me to a
complete doc.

Thanks for you reply and greetings from Lake Léman, not Constance :)
-AJ

[1] http://source.contextgarden.net/type-otf.tex
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[NTG-context] {Spam?} Degree of MKII isolation from MKIV changes

2008-04-16 Thread Michael Santy
From watching the mailing list, it seems that there's been a bit of
instability due to recent changes for MKIV.  For the benefit of those of us
exclusively using MKII, can someone comment on how insulated MKII users are
from changes made for development on MKIV?

Cheers,
Mike 

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[NTG-context] Lost in columnset

2008-04-16 Thread luigi scarso
I realize that in
\definecolumnsetarea[one][right][x=1,y=25,nx=2,ny=18,page=19,state=start]
page=19 is relative to \startcolumnset[AAA] ...\stopcolumnset
not to \realfolio .
So, what about [right]  ?
Is related to \realfolio or to page ?
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it's new .
it's powerful .
it's luatex .
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Re: [NTG-context] small caps and old numbers with open type fonts

2008-04-16 Thread Antoine Junod
Hi Wolfgang!

Wolfgang Schuster [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 On Sun, Apr 13, 2008 at 8:39 PM, Antoine Junod [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hello list,

 I actually use my font as simple as possible with a
 \definefont[boum][MyFont at 12pt]. Is it the problem?

 It the same with the \sc command.

 \definefont[boum][MyFont at 12pt]
 \definefont[scboum][MyFont*smallcaps at 12pt]

Wow, beautifull, thanks :) Where is the * and what we can put after
(smallcaps for example) described? I have the strong feeling to search
in the wrong place without any result.

Best regards, 
-AJ
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Re: [NTG-context] luatex feature question/request

2008-04-16 Thread Olivier Guéry
On Wed, Apr 16, 2008 at 10:50 AM, Hans Hagen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Arthur Reutenauer wrote:
  but if we support such a
   thing, we need a better specification; there are probably more space
   related chars that needs treatment then
  
 There's not much to it, actually.  There are some space characters in
   Unicode, and we should handle them as much Unicode-compliantly as
   possible; and there are some particular typographic conventions on top
   of that, for each language.  It's easy to come up with a simple scheme
   to support both, and I've already outlined it on a different
   mailing-list (http://tug.org/pipermail/xetex/2008-February/008529.html).
   The problem is to decide how much of the users' old typing habits we

  this is indeed an important point ... we don't want to cripple default
  behaviour by that (we already have -- --- and such)

The spaces before « ; » and others are not the same habits than « -- »
and « --- ». « -- » is TeX specific, the spaces no, it's just a french
habit.

  the problem with all these automatisms is that it then becomes
  impossible to do something verbatim, i.e bypass those mechamisms

I can't imagine a french text without those spaces. So maybe this
specific question should be on for all french text, and something like
\setcharacterspacing [frenchpunctuation]  [no] can be use for the
excepts.

(For sure questions like always indenting the paragraphs are more
complex since modern typography sometime don't put them).

 I can discuss that with you at BachoTeX, Hans.  It's best done around
   a beer or two, anyway ;-)

  sure, enough beer at bachotek anyway ...

If it can be solve with a beer ;o)

Olivier.

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Re: [NTG-context] small caps and old numbers with open type fonts

2008-04-16 Thread Antoine Junod
Wolfgang Schuster [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 On Wed, Apr 16, 2008 at 11:59 AM, Antoine Junod [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi Wolfgang!

 Wolfgang Schuster [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

  On Sun, Apr 13, 2008 at 8:39 PM, Antoine Junod [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Hello list,
 
  I actually use my font as simple as possible with a
  \definefont[boum][MyFont at 12pt]. Is it the problem?
 
  It the same with the \sc command.
 
  \definefont[boum][MyFont at 12pt]
  \definefont[scboum][MyFont*smallcaps at 12pt]

 Wow, beautifull, thanks :) Where is the * and what we can put after
 (smallcaps for example) described? I have the strong feeling to
 search in the wrong place without any result.

 The * is used to assign a feature to the font and you could find a
 description in font-ini.tex /grep for \definefontfeature) but the
 better way is to use typescripts for your fonts.

Okay. That's what I'm trying to do right now.

 ConTeXt has the following features predefined:
 - default
 - smallcaps
 - oldstyle

Yep, I saw them in font-ini.tex, as you pointed me to.

 It is also possible to change the features of a font within the text
 with the command \setfontfeature{...}.

But, if I've understood the point, there is no reason to do that if I
use a proper typescript. Right?

Best regards,
-AJ
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[NTG-context] mtxrun can’t find the scripts

2008-04-16 Thread Olivier Guéry
Hello,

I still can't run
mtxrun --scripts fonts --mtxrun --reload the output give me :
MtxRun | unknown script: fonts

I tried with my context installation in /usr/share/texmf and with
context minimal.

Digging in my directories, I supose that thoses scripts are the mtx-*
in $LOCALTEX/scripts/context/lua
I can't run any of them (assuming that the syntax is mtxrun --scripts
{the name of the script without the « mtx- » prefix and « .lua »
sufix}).

I tried do chmod +x them… nothing

I haven't see problems in the install process… (exept that I must run,
ctxtools --update and texexec --make --all --{pdf,xe,lu}tex being
root, but my user don't have write rights on these directories, so…)
Any idear ?

Cheers,
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Re: [NTG-context] mtxrun can’t find the scripts

2008-04-16 Thread Wolfgang Schuster
On Wed, Apr 16, 2008 at 12:07 PM, Olivier Guéry [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hello,

 I still can't run
 mtxrun --scripts fonts --mtxrun --reload the output give me :
 MtxRun | unknown script: fonts

mtxrun --scripts fonts --reload

 I tried with my context installation in /usr/share/texmf and with
 context minimal.

 Digging in my directories, I supose that thoses scripts are the mtx-*
 in $LOCALTEX/scripts/context/lua
 I can't run any of them (assuming that the syntax is mtxrun --scripts
 {the name of the script without the « mtx- » prefix and « .lua »
 sufix}).

 I tried do chmod +x them… nothing

 I haven't see problems in the install process… (exept that I must run,
 ctxtools --update and texexec --make --all --{pdf,xe,lu}tex being
 root, but my user don't have write rights on these directories, so…)
 Any idear ?

you could also try mtxrun --selfupdate before you update the database

Wolfgang
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Re: [NTG-context] latest

2008-04-16 Thread Thomas A. Schmitz
On Apr 16, 2008, at 12:26 PM, Taco Hoekwater wrote:
 Can you test the latest upload? This should be fixed now
 (arrows forthcoming).


Hi Taco,

yes, latest upload works. Looking out for arrows...

Thanks

Thomas
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Re: [NTG-context] latest

2008-04-16 Thread Taco Hoekwater


Thomas A. Schmitz wrote:
 Hi all (Hans, Taco...),
 
 thre appears to be a problem with font-syn.lua in the latest release.  
 First, there's a typo in l. 291. I think
 
 if not filename and not reloaded and fonts.name.autoreload then
 
 should be
 
 if not filename and not reloaded and fonts.names.autoreload then

Can you test the latest upload? This should be fixed now
(arrows forthcoming).


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Re: [NTG-context] small caps and old numbers with open type fonts

2008-04-16 Thread Wolfgang Schuster
On Wed, Apr 16, 2008 at 12:34 PM, Antoine Junod [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Wolfgang Schuster [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

  On Wed, Apr 16, 2008 at 11:59 AM, Antoine Junod [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Hi Wolfgang!
 
  Wolfgang Schuster [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 
   On Sun, Apr 13, 2008 at 8:39 PM, Antoine Junod [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   Hello list,
  
   I actually use my font as simple as possible with a
   \definefont[boum][MyFont at 12pt]. Is it the problem?
  
   It the same with the \sc command.
  
   \definefont[boum][MyFont at 12pt]
   \definefont[scboum][MyFont*smallcaps at 12pt]
 
  Wow, beautifull, thanks :) Where is the * and what we can put after
  (smallcaps for example) described? I have the strong feeling to
  search in the wrong place without any result.
 
  The * is used to assign a feature to the font and you could find a
  description in font-ini.tex /grep for \definefontfeature) but the
  better way is to use typescripts for your fonts.

 Okay. That's what I'm trying to do right now.

  ConTeXt has the following features predefined:
  - default
  - smallcaps
  - oldstyle

 Yep, I saw them in font-ini.tex, as you pointed me to.

You could also define your own font features with \definefontfeature

  It is also possible to change the features of a font within the text
  with the command \setfontfeature{...}.

 But, if I've understood the point, there is no reason to do that if I
 use a proper typescript. Right?

It depends what do you want, normally no but you could use it to
change the figures in a table to tabular figures.

Wolfgang
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Re: [NTG-context] followup: arrows in mplib

2008-04-16 Thread Hans Hagen
Thomas A. Schmitz wrote:
 I'm afraid arrows look better now, but they're not yet quite what they  
 used to be. Test:
 
 \setupcolors[state=start]
 
 \starttext
 
 \startuseMPgraphic{arrowtest}
 z1=(0,0) ;
 z2=(3cm,0) ;
 ahlength := 15pt ;
 pickup pencircle scaled 5pt ;
 drawarrow z1--z2 withcolor red ;
 \stopuseMPgraphic
 
 \useMPgraphic{arrowtest}
 
 \stoptext
 
 Homework for Hans and Taco again? :-)

ah, a side effect of the arrow fix (which has to do with some complex 
deduction of combined filled/stroked paths) .. i'll fix it (and in the 
process sacrifice some fill/draw color optimizations)

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Re: [NTG-context] --autopdf closes all documents

2008-04-16 Thread Hans Hagen
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 I am using Scite on Windows to edit and build my documents.  The most 
 annoying behaviour is that when I press F7 to build the document the 
 texexec --pdf --autopdf command that it executes closes ALL open pdf 
 documents.  So that I have to keep re-opening everything :-(
 Is there a way to build which just closes the document you are building 
 and leaves others open?

in principle yes, but then the document needs to be opened first using 
pdfopen which then gives an annoying message

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Re: [NTG-context] mtxrun can’t find the scripts

2008-04-16 Thread Olivier Guéry
Thank's I find the problem reading to another post.
I had a TEXMF variable set to /usr/share/texmf
I unset it and it seems that mtxrun go well.
But strange isn't it ?

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Re: [NTG-context] Problem to save data font in cache

2008-04-16 Thread Wolfgang Schuster
On Tue, Apr 15, 2008 at 3:09 PM, Hans Hagen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Wolfgang Schuster wrote:
  Hi,
 
  I tried to use the cwTeX fonts with MkIV and I can use them but ConTeXt is 
  not
  able to save the font data and read the font for every run, this did
  work but it takes
  quiet some time to do this.
 
  A attached the result from the terminal and the log file.
 
  The font are available from the following page:
  http://cle.linux.org.tw/fonts/cwttf/baseline/
 
  My example document is:
 
  % engine=luatex
 
  \definefont[cwheib][file:cwheib*default at 12pt]
 
  \starttext
  \cwheib cwTeXHeiBold
  \stoptext

 can you check if there's an tma file in the cache? and if so, if you can
 run texluac -s blabla.tma on it?

I did this and I found also a file with the name cwheib.tma, you can see
what I get after I made waht you told.

C:\Dokumente und Einstellungen\Wolfgang\Lokale Einstellungen\Temp\luatex-cache\c
ontext\aa3708bbacfa039a6085d2b5c7446e1e\fonts\otftexluac -s cwheib.tma
texluac: cwheib.tma:169863: unfinished string near '={'

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Re: [NTG-context] mtxrun can’t find the scripts

2008-04-16 Thread Hans Hagen
Olivier Guéry wrote:
 Thank's I find the problem reading to another post.
 I had a TEXMF variable set to /usr/share/texmf
 I unset it and it seems that mtxrun go well.
 But strange isn't it ?

the problem can be that some distributions have hard coded paths and use 
autofoo and autoparentfoo magic

context mkiv ha sit sown file searching (kpse compatible) and it needs 
to know where to start looking which is why it needs TEXMFCNF and/or 
TEXMF and/or TEXMFCACHE

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Re: [NTG-context] Problem to save data font in cache

2008-04-16 Thread Hans Hagen
Wolfgang Schuster wrote:
 On Tue, Apr 15, 2008 at 3:09 PM, Hans Hagen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Wolfgang Schuster wrote:
 Hi,

 I tried to use the cwTeX fonts with MkIV and I can use them but ConTeXt is 
 not
 able to save the font data and read the font for every run, this did
 work but it takes
 quiet some time to do this.

 A attached the result from the terminal and the log file.

 The font are available from the following page:
 http://cle.linux.org.tw/fonts/cwttf/baseline/

 My example document is:

 % engine=luatex

 \definefont[cwheib][file:cwheib*default at 12pt]

 \starttext
 \cwheib cwTeXHeiBold
 \stoptext
 can you check if there's an tma file in the cache? and if so, if you can
 run texluac -s blabla.tma on it?
 
 I did this and I found also a file with the name cwheib.tma, you can see
 what I get after I made waht you told.
 
 C:\Dokumente und Einstellungen\Wolfgang\Lokale 
 Einstellungen\Temp\luatex-cache\c
 ontext\aa3708bbacfa039a6085d2b5c7446e1e\fonts\otftexluac -s cwheib.tma
 texluac: cwheib.tma:169863: unfinished string near '={'


can you show the +/- ten lines surrounding this?

it looks like a funny character is in there

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Re: [NTG-context] followup: arrows in mplib

2008-04-16 Thread Hans Hagen
Hans Hagen wrote:
 Thomas A. Schmitz wrote:
 I'm afraid arrows look better now, but they're not yet quite what they  
 used to be. Test:

i uploaded a beta, please check other color things in mp graphics too

thanks for testing

Hans

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Re: [NTG-context] Problem to save data font in cache

2008-04-16 Thread Wolfgang Schuster
On Wed, Apr 16, 2008 at 1:46 PM, Hans Hagen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Wolfgang Schuster wrote:
  On Tue, Apr 15, 2008 at 3:09 PM, Hans Hagen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Wolfgang Schuster wrote:
  Hi,
 
  I tried to use the cwTeX fonts with MkIV and I can use them but ConTeXt 
  is not
  able to save the font data and read the font for every run, this did
  work but it takes
  quiet some time to do this.
 
  A attached the result from the terminal and the log file.
 
  The font are available from the following page:
  http://cle.linux.org.tw/fonts/cwttf/baseline/
 
  My example document is:
 
  % engine=luatex
 
  \definefont[cwheib][file:cwheib*default at 12pt]
 
  \starttext
  \cwheib cwTeXHeiBold
  \stoptext
  can you check if there's an tma file in the cache? and if so, if you can
  run texluac -s blabla.tma on it?
 
  I did this and I found also a file with the name cwheib.tma, you can see
  what I get after I made waht you told.
 
  C:\Dokumente und Einstellungen\Wolfgang\Lokale 
  Einstellungen\Temp\luatex-cache\c
  ontext\aa3708bbacfa039a6085d2b5c7446e1e\fonts\otftexluac -s cwheib.tma
  texluac: cwheib.tma:169863: unfinished string near '={'


 can you show the +/- ten lines surrounding this?

 it looks like a funny character is in there

the problematic entry is below [subtables], every other subtable
entry has the form

  [subtables]={
{

with just a normal left brace at the begin of the line


  [internals]={},
  [marks]={},
  [name_to_type]={
   [ctx_tlig_1]=gsub_ligature,
   [ctx_trep_1]=gsub_single,
   [ss__DFLT_l_0_s]=gsub_single,
  },
  [subtables]={
   [={
[dflt]={
 [dflt]={
  [lookups]={ ss__DFLT_l_0_s },
  [valid]={
   [ss__DFLT_l_0_s]=true,
  },
 },
},
[jamo]={
 [dflt]={
  [lookups]={ ss__DFLT_l_0_s },
  [valid]={
   [ss__DFLT_l_0_s]=true,
  },
 },
},
   },


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Re: [NTG-context] Fonts and other tips for thesis and other academic works

2008-04-16 Thread Matija Šuklje
Dne sreda 16. aprila 2008 je Suno Ano napisal(a):
 Would you mind translating your comments into English? That would help
 others (including me) a lot! Tia :-)

Will do as soon as I can. Probably this week. When I do I'll make sure to 
notify you (and others) on the list :)

Wow, I didn't think anyone would really have any use for it, since the 
citation styles are quite specific. Perhaps I should also include a .pdf (and 
source files) as a download, so people can see how it looks like.

 Take a look at
 http://www.pragma-ade.com/general/manuals/cont-eni.pdf -- chapter 5

 You want to pick a font family which has entire support for mathematical
 glyphs like for example
  - Computer Modern Roman or
  - Lucia Bright

Thanks, will take notice of it. I suppose these don't come out-of-the-box, or 
do they?

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Re: [NTG-context] Fonts and other tips for thesis and other academic works

2008-04-16 Thread Matija Šuklje
Dne sreda 16. aprila 2008 je Henning Hraban Ramm napisal(a):
 AFAIK there are also math fonts for Palatino (px), Times (tx?),
 Helvetica (hx? and commercial) and the Euler fonts that work with
 different serif fonts.
 And soon (I hope) we'll get math support for the TeXGyre fonts as well.

As a law student I don't actually need any major math support, but I'll take 
notice of these as well.

 I'd suggest a readable serif as body font, I like e.g. TeXGyre Schola
 (Century Schoolbook) - it's a bit conservative and ill suited for
 titling sizes - and perhaps a sans-serif for titlings, e.g. LM Sans or
 TeXGyre Heros (Helvetica).

Thanks for the suggestion. Is there a page where I can preview these fonts?


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Re: [NTG-context] Fonts and other tips for thesis and other academic works

2008-04-16 Thread Wolfgang Schuster
On Wed, Apr 16, 2008 at 2:03 PM, Matija Šuklje [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Dne sreda 16. aprila 2008 je Henning Hraban Ramm napisal(a):
  AFAIK there are also math fonts for Palatino (px), Times (tx?),
  Helvetica (hx? and commercial) and the Euler fonts that work with
  different serif fonts.
  And soon (I hope) we'll get math support for the TeXGyre fonts as well.

 As a law student I don't actually need any major math support, but I'll take
 notice of these as well.

You should also take a look at Myriad and Minion (Shipped with Adobe Reader)
and Microsofts new fonts for Vista (Part of the PowerPoint Viewer 2007) or take
a look at the following link (the dutch designer behind the 6th
provides a few nice
and free fonts).

http://www.typografie.info/typoforum/viewtopic.php?f=7t=4779

  I'd suggest a readable serif as body font, I like e.g. TeXGyre Schola
  (Century Schoolbook) - it's a bit conservative and ill suited for
  titling sizes - and perhaps a sans-serif for titlings, e.g. LM Sans or
  TeXGyre Heros (Helvetica).

 Thanks for the suggestion. Is there a page where I can preview these fonts?

Latin Modern has a manual with Examples from the Fonts, not sure if
the other fonts include also one.

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Re: [NTG-context] Fonts and other tips for thesis and other academic works

2008-04-16 Thread Olivier Guéry
On Wed, Apr 16, 2008 at 2:03 PM, Matija Šuklje [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Dne sreda 16. aprila 2008 je Henning Hraban Ramm napisal(a):

  AFAIK there are also math fonts for Palatino (px), Times (tx?),
   Helvetica (hx? and commercial) and the Euler fonts that work with
   different serif fonts.
   And soon (I hope) we'll get math support for the TeXGyre fonts as well.

  As a law student I don't actually need any major math support, but I'll take
  notice of these as well.


   I'd suggest a readable serif as body font, I like e.g. TeXGyre Schola
   (Century Schoolbook) - it's a bit conservative and ill suited for
   titling sizes - and perhaps a sans-serif for titlings, e.g. LM Sans or
   TeXGyre Heros (Helvetica).

  Thanks for the suggestion. Is there a page where I can preview these fonts?

The main site seems to be down.
But you can see them here :
Schola : http://www.tug.dk/FontCatalogue/tgschola/
Heros : http://www.tug.dk/FontCatalogue/tgheros/

And with a fontviewer in the contex path :
$YOURPATH/fonts/opentype/public/tex-gyre/

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Re: [NTG-context] followup: arrows in mplib

2008-04-16 Thread Thomas A. Schmitz

On Apr 16, 2008, at 1:53 PM, Hans Hagen wrote:
 i uploaded a beta, please check other color things in mp graphics too

 thanks for testing

 Hans

Yes, the new beta does work. I'll have an eye on other things; so far,  
I haven't seen anything unusual.

Thanks for the swift action!

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Re: [NTG-context] Problem to save data font in cache

2008-04-16 Thread Taco Hoekwater


Wolfgang Schuster wrote:

 C:\Dokumente und Einstellungen\Wolfgang\Lokale 
 Einstellungen\Temp\luatex-cache\c
 ontext\aa3708bbacfa039a6085d2b5c7446e1e\fonts\otftexluac -s cwheib.tma
 texluac: cwheib.tma:169863: unfinished string near '={'

 can you show the +/- ten lines surrounding this?

 it looks like a funny character is in there
 
 the problematic entry is below [subtables], every other subtable
 entry has the form
 
   [subtables]={
 {

The font is a Macintosh-style TTF font (not OpenType).

Unfortunately, these are not yet supported by luatex nor mkiv.
The simple reason is that neither Hans nor me knows what those
macintosh features are supposed to do. I'll try to make luatx
at least serialize such fonts properly, but official support
will be quite a while off.

Best wishes,
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Re: [NTG-context] luatex feature question/request

2008-04-16 Thread Peter Münster
On Wed, Apr 16 2008, Olivier Guéry wrote:

 I can't imagine a french text without those spaces. So maybe this
 specific question should be on for all french text, and something like
 \setcharacterspacing [frenchpunctuation]  [no] can be use for the
 excepts.

There is already \setcharacterspacing[reset], but it does not work:
ERROR: Missing number, treated as zero.

Until a bug-fix, you can use \doresetattribute{spacing}.

I use for example
\setuptyping[style=\doresetattribute{spacing}\tt]
\setuptype[style=\doresetattribute{spacing}\tt]
at some places.

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[NTG-context] Homework for Hans and Taco

2008-04-16 Thread Yue Wang
Hi,

Exactly the same input as described in the metafont manual.

\starttext
Hello world!

\useMPlibrary[txt]
\startuseMPgraphic{test 1}
path p ; p := fullcircle scaled 6cm ;
build_parshape(p,6pt,0,0,\baselinedistance,
\strutheight,\strutdepth,\strutheight) ;
draw p withpen pencircle scaled 1pt ;
\stopuseMPgraphic
\startuseMPgraphic{test 2}
path p ; p := fullsquare rotated 45 scaled 5cm ;
build_parshape(p,6pt,0,0,\baselinedistance,
\strutheight,\strutdepth,\strutheight) ;
draw p withpen pencircle scaled 1pt ;
\stopuseMPgraphic
\startuseMPgraphic{test 3}
numeric w, h ; w := h := 6cm ;
path p ; p := (.5w,h) -- (0,h) -- (0,0) -- (w,0) 
(w,0) .. (.75w,.5h) .. (w,h)  (w,h) -- cycle ;
build_parshape(p,6pt,0,0,\baselinedistance,
\strutheight,\strutdepth,\strutheight) ;
draw p withpen pencircle scaled 1pt ;
\stopuseMPgraphic
\startuseMPgraphic{test 4}
numeric w, h, o ;
def shape = (o,o) -- (w-o,o)  (w-o,o) .. (.75w-o,.5h) ..
(w-2o,h-o)  (w-2o,h-o) -- (o,h-o) -- cycle
enddef ;
w := h := 6cm ; o := 6pt ; path p ; p := shape ;
w := h := 6cm ; o := 0pt ; path q ; q := shape ;
build_parshape(p,q,6pt,6pt,\baselinedistance,
\strutheight,\strutdepth,\strutheight) ;
draw q withpen pencircle scaled 1pt ;
\stopuseMPgraphic
\defineoverlay[test 1][\useMPgraphic{test 1}]
\defineoverlay[test 2][\useMPgraphic{test 2}]
\defineoverlay[test 3][\useMPgraphic{test 3}]
\defineoverlay[test 4][\useMPgraphic{test 4}]
\startshapetext[test 1,test 2,test 3,test 4]
\input douglas % Douglas R. Hofstadter
\stopshapetext
\startbuffer
\setupframed
[offset=overlay,align=normal,frame=off,
width=\parwidth,height=\parheight]
\startcombination[2*2]
{\framed[background=test 1]{\getshapetext}} {test 1}
{\framed[background=test 2]{\getshapetext}} {test 2}
{\framed[background=test 3]{\getshapetext}} {test 3}
{\framed[background=test 4]{\getshapetext}} {test 4}
\stopcombination
\stopbuffer
\placefigure
[here][fig:shapes]
{A continuous text, typeset in a non||standard shape,
spread over four areas, and right alligned.}
{\getbuffer}
\stoptext

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Re: [NTG-context] Homework for Hans and Taco

2008-04-16 Thread Hans Hagen
Yue Wang wrote:
 Hi,
 
 Exactly the same input as described in the metafont manual.

ok, fixed in next release (had to do with different temp file model for 
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Re: [NTG-context] luatex feature question/request

2008-04-16 Thread Hans Hagen
Peter Münster wrote:
 On Wed, Apr 16 2008, Olivier Guéry wrote:
 
 I can't imagine a french text without those spaces. So maybe this
 specific question should be on for all french text, and something like
 \setcharacterspacing [frenchpunctuation]  [no] can be use for the
 excepts.
 
 There is already \setcharacterspacing[reset], but it does not work:
 ERROR: Missing number, treated as zero.
 
 Until a bug-fix, you can use \doresetattribute{spacing}.
 
 I use for example
 \setuptyping[style=\doresetattribute{spacing}\tt]
 \setuptype[style=\doresetattribute{spacing}\tt]
 at some places.

i didn't know that this was broken .. fixed

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Re: [NTG-context] Unable to generate luatex formats

2008-04-16 Thread John Devereux
Mojca Miklavec [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

  However I have been using context for years, and may well have messed
  something up! It seems to work OK with my normal documents. Except I
  notice \usemodule[gnuplot] does not work.

 What exactly goes wrong?

I have got this working now too. The problems were:

  - the syntax seems to have changed since I originally used it. Used
to be \startGNUPLOTgraphic now needs to be \startGNUPLOTscript

  - I missed the bit on the wiki about enabling write18

  - I was misled by some examples (in the source code) into thinking
that parameters go in curly brackets, but this does not work for
me (and fails silently).

So in the source code you have

  \startGNUPLOTscript{sin}
  plot sin(x)
  \stopGNUPLOTscript
  \useGNUPLOTgraphic{sin}

but I needed


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  plot sin(x)
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Re: [NTG-context] [dev-context] New context release

2008-04-16 Thread Norbert Preining
Hi all,

On Mi, 16 Apr 2008, Taco Hoekwater wrote:
http://wiki.contextgarden.net/Release_Note
 
 for everything we did change and patch in the past 24 hours.
 If nothing bad happens, this release will go to CTAN (and
 debian, I presume) sometime tomorrow.


Preliminary packages are available at the usual location
deb http://people.debian.org/~preining/TeX/ context/
deb-src http://people.debian.org/~preining/TeX/ context/
Please give it a try.

I made tests and it passed all context/pdftex tests and the simple
context/luatex I am using.


Taco/Hans: Do you require the newest lmodern with the change of font
names in this context version? Debian currently has 1.010x.

This is important because we have to make a concerted action in case the
deps are on the new lmodern.

Thanks and all the best

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Re: [NTG-context] [dev-context] New context release

2008-04-16 Thread Norbert Preining
On Mi, 16 Apr 2008, Hans Hagen wrote:
 indeed we need the latest although in the luatex version there is a kind 
 of fallback name subsystem,

Aehm what does this mean??? So either you need it, or there is a
fallback system ... semantics are sometimes dangerous ;-)

So if we ship the old or the new one there is no problem with the one or
the other?

 thanks for your prompt package building

No problem, there are normally not many things to do but running the
tests.

But I still hope that some Debian ConTeXt user could check that
everything works as expected etc etc.

Best wishes

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Re: [NTG-context] [dev-context] New context release

2008-04-16 Thread Hans Hagen
Norbert Preining wrote:
 Hi all,
 
 On Mi, 16 Apr 2008, Taco Hoekwater wrote:
http://wiki.contextgarden.net/Release_Note

 for everything we did change and patch in the past 24 hours.
 If nothing bad happens, this release will go to CTAN (and
 debian, I presume) sometime tomorrow.
 
 
 Preliminary packages are available at the usual location
   deb http://people.debian.org/~preining/TeX/ context/
   deb-src http://people.debian.org/~preining/TeX/ context/
 Please give it a try.
 
 I made tests and it passed all context/pdftex tests and the simple
 context/luatex I am using.
 
 
 Taco/Hans: Do you require the newest lmodern with the change of font
 names in this context version? Debian currently has 1.010x.
 
 This is important because we have to make a concerted action in case the
 deps are on the new lmodern.

indeed we need the latest although in the luatex version there is a kind 
of fallback name subsystem,

thanks for your prompt package building

Hans


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Re: [NTG-context] [dev-context] New context release

2008-04-16 Thread Hans Hagen
Norbert Preining wrote:
 On Mi, 16 Apr 2008, Hans Hagen wrote:
 indeed we need the latest although in the luatex version there is a kind 
 of fallback name subsystem,
 
 Aehm what does this mean??? So either you need it, or there is a
 fallback system ... semantics are sometimes dangerous ;-)

well, it may work with the old fonts (depends on how old), in 
font-syn.tex  you will find

fonts.names.new_to_old = {
 [lmroman10-capsregular]= lmromancaps10-oblique,
 [lmroman10-capsoblique]= lmromancaps10-regular,
 [lmroman10-demi]   = lmromandemi10-oblique,
 [lmroman10-demioblique]= lmromandemi10-regular,
 [lmroman8-oblique] = lmromanslant8-regular,
 [lmroman9-oblique] = lmromanslant9-regular,
 [lmroman10-oblique]= lmromanslant10-regular,
 [lmroman12-oblique]= lmromanslant12-regular,

etc. so older fonts are ok for context/luatex; while for xetex new fonts 
are needed.

 So if we ship the old or the new one there is no problem with the one or
 the other?

not for luatex/context

Hans

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Re: [NTG-context] [dev-context] New context release

2008-04-16 Thread Norbert Preining
On Mi, 16 Apr 2008, Hans Hagen wrote:
 well, it may work with the old fonts (depends on how old), in 
 font-syn.tex  you will find

Well it is the last release before the renaming of the fonts, as I said
1.01x.

 etc. so older fonts are ok for context/luatex; while for xetex new fonts 
 are needed.
 
 So if we ship the old or the new one there is no problem with the one or
 the other?
 
 not for luatex/context

Huuu ... above you say

   so older fonts are ok for context/luatex; while for xetex new fonts
are needed

and then

   not for luatex/context


So I assume the situation is as follows:

- for context/luatex: ok with old and new ones
- for context/xetex: new ones are necessary

Ok, I will think about updating the lmodern fonts, too, but renaming the
font names is really a pain, you shouldn't do that after a 1.something
release. No idea why they did that.

Thanks for the information

Best wishes

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Re: [NTG-context] [dev-context] New context release

2008-04-16 Thread Norbert Preining
On Mi, 16 Apr 2008, Norbert Preining wrote:
 - for context/luatex: ok with old and new ones
 - for context/xetex: new ones are necessary
 
 Ok, I will think about updating the lmodern fonts, too, but renaming the

Hmm, according to Ralf updating the lmodern is a no-go because that
would need euenc/fontspec updates, which would need ... devilish.
(See bugs.debian.org/469437)

I guess we have to live with this for lenny. And for the next we will
have TL2008 with new xetex/luatex and can ship new context and fonts.

Or do you have another suggestion???

Best wishes

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[NTG-context] mtx-update --context=beta?

2008-04-16 Thread Joel C. Salomon
I'm putting together my own rsync calls based on the Minimals
firstsetup.bat and Vyatcheslav's installer.  Found a difference:
firstsetup.bat includes the switch --context=beta in its call to
mtx-update.  What is the difference if it's used or no?
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Re: [NTG-context] ConTeXt ultraminimals (was re: Perl/Ruby dependency)

2008-04-16 Thread Joel C. Salomon
On Sat, Apr 12, 2008 at 3:02 AM, Hans Hagen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   Slight tangent: Is there any support for using any of the OpenType
   math fonts (I know of Cambria Math, STIX, and Asana Math—this last on
   tug.org) in mkiv?

  cambria ... probably in the near future (as tex gyre will also have math
  and), since stix is type 1 and spread over many fonts, it will not be
  supported (that is: i will not make the typescripts for pdftex, but
  someoneelse may see it as a challenge)

So will Stix be supported in mkiv or ConTeXt+XeTeX?

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Re: [NTG-context] [dev-context] New context release

2008-04-16 Thread Mojca Miklavec
On Wed, Apr 16, 2008 at 7:21 PM, Norbert Preining wrote:
 On Mi, 16 Apr 2008, Norbert Preining wrote:
   - for context/luatex: ok with old and new ones
   - for context/xetex: new ones are necessary

True.

   Ok, I will think about updating the lmodern fonts, too, but renaming the

  Hmm, according to Ralf updating the lmodern is a no-go because that
  would need euenc/fontspec updates, which would need ... devilish.
  (See bugs.debian.org/469437)

  I guess we have to live with this for lenny. And for the next we will
  have TL2008 with new xetex/luatex and can ship new context and fonts.

  Or do you have another suggestion???

ConTeXt + XeTeX will be broken without the latest LM fonts. ConTeX +
LuaTeX works OK.

For XeLaTeX you indeed need to update fontspec, but if you're
reluctant to upgrade the rest of XeTeX, a fix of fontspec to support
the latest LM fonts is so minor, that it's really not worth having a
broken ConTeXt+XeTeX. fontspec might need only a few name fixes,
that's all.

Maybe Jonathan and Will have something more to say about which version
of XeTeX and fontspec might be best to consider to make its way into
Debian, but a humble request from my side - please do upgrade LM.
(MikTeX has done that already.)

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[NTG-context] mswincontext.zip

2008-04-16 Thread Idris Samawi Hamid
Dear gang,

There has not been an update to mswincontext.zip since last August... Are  
there any plans to update this? For years now mswincontext.zip has been my  
one and only TeX distribution. With the new TeX-Gyre and Latin Modern  
fonts, as well as the rest of our developments, I think the time is way  
overdue for a new release. And it is safer to install a fresh distribution  
than to muck around with replacing the fonts etc.

Any news?

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Re: [NTG-context] Unable to generate luatex formats

2008-04-16 Thread Joel C. Salomon
Same problem, fresh rsync from minimals:

C:\Users\chesky\Programs\ConTeXtluatools --ini --compile cont-en

LuaTools | creating initialization file cont-en
LuaTools | using library path :
C:/Users/chesky/Programs/ConTeXt/texmf-context/tex/context/base
LuaTools | using lua libraries: l-string.lua l-lpeg.lua l-table.lua
l-boolean.lua l-number.lua l-set.lua l-unicode.lua l-md5.lua l-os.lua
l-io.lua l-file.lua l-url.lua l-dir.lua l-utils.lua l-tex.lua
luat-env.lua luat-lib.lua luat-inp.lua luat-tmp.lua luat-zip.lua
luat-tex.lua
LuaTools | using compiled initialization file cont-en.luc
LuaTools | using lua initialization file cont-en.luc
LuaTools | running command: luatex --ini --lua=cont-en.luc
C:/Users/chesky/Programs/ConTeXt/texmf-context/tex/context/base/cont-en.tex
\dump
(C:/Users/chesky/Programs/ConTeXt/texmf-context/tex/context/base/cont-en.tex
(C:/Users/chesky/Programs/ConTeXt/texmf-context/tex/context/base/context.tex
(C:/Users/chesky/Programs/ConTeXt/texmf-context/tex/context/base/syst-pln.tex)
(C:/Users/chesky/Programs/ConTeXt/texmf-context/tex/context/base/syst-prm.tex)
(C:/Users/chesky/Programs/ConTeXt/texmf-context/tex/context/base/luat-env.tex)
(C:/Users/chesky/Programs/ConTeXt/texmf-context/tex/context/base/luat-lib.tex
! LuaTeX error ...ams/ConTeXt/texmf-context/tex/context/base/l-aux.lua:55:
attempt to call field 'Carg' (a nil value).
\ctxluabytecode ...ode  .. #1 .. str) end end }

\registerctxluafile ...{\the \luabytecodecounter }
  \fi
l.45 \registerctxluafile{l-aux}{1.001}

?

Multiple runs of luatools --selfupdate and luatools --generate don't help.

I'll try pulling again later, see if that works.

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Re: [NTG-context] [dev-context] New context release

2008-04-16 Thread Norbert Preining
On Mi, 16 Apr 2008, Mojca Miklavec wrote:
 For XeLaTeX you indeed need to update fontspec, but if you're
 reluctant to upgrade the rest of XeTeX, a fix of fontspec to support
 the latest LM fonts is so minor, that it's really not worth having a
 broken ConTeXt+XeTeX. fontspec might need only a few name fixes,
 that's all.

Give me a patch and I will see whether it is so minor.

 Debian, but a humble request from my side - please do upgrade LM.

There are people using xetex without context, and I don't want to break
anything for them. context/luatex and context/xetex are more
experimental (or at least I consider them that way).

I need to see the necessary changes before I can discuss that.

Jonathan, Will: It is about TeX Live 2007 in Debian/lenny. There will be
no TL2008 in lenny. But we have recent context and recent luatex.

It is about updating the lmodern fonts, currently we have 1.01x, the
last before the otf and font names were renamed.

What changes would be necessary for fontspec and/or euenc and/or xetex
so that we don't break everything, and have a working:
xetex
context/xetex

Thanks for any enlightening comments!!

Best wishes

Norbert

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Re: [NTG-context] Unable to generate luatex formats

2008-04-16 Thread Mojca Miklavec
On Wed, Apr 16, 2008 at 5:18 PM, John Devereux wrote:
 Mojca Miklavec writes:

   However I have been using context for years, and may well have messed
something up! It seems to work OK with my normal documents. Except I
notice \usemodule[gnuplot] does not work.
  
   What exactly goes wrong?

  I have got this working now too. The problems were:

   - the syntax seems to have changed since I originally used it. Used
 to be \startGNUPLOTgraphic now needs to be \startGNUPLOTscript

   - I missed the bit on the wiki about enabling write18

   - I was misled by some examples (in the source code) into thinking
 that parameters go in curly brackets, but this does not work for
 me (and fails silently).

  So in the source code you have

   \startGNUPLOTscript{sin}
   plot sin(x)
   \stopGNUPLOTscript
   \useGNUPLOTgraphic{sin}

  but I needed


   \startGNUPLOTscript[sin]
   plot sin(x)
   \stopGNUPLOTscript
   \useGNUPLOTgraphic[sin]

  to make it work.

I'm sorry about that. Yes, the syntax change is my fault, but it won't
happen again. If I wanted to support
   \useGNUPLOTgraphic[sin][1,3][width=.7\textwidth]
and alike, the curly braces didn't fit in so nicely.

The module has initially been part of ConTeXt (Hans has written most
of it at the beginning), but it was easier to develop it as a module
once I started writing metapost code for the dedicated terminal etc.

I have removed the faulty examples a few days ago (just didn't upload
the new version yet). I was trying to write code in such a way that
curly braces would work as well for backward compatibility, but failed
to do so (the code is there, but only half of it works). However, all
of these changes have happened rather early in the process and won't
happen again.

Moreover, it would be nice to get the TikZ terminal working with
ConTeXt (I need to find some time for it, and then finally convince
the gnuplot developers to include it into the binary).

Mojca
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Re: [NTG-context] Unable to generate luatex formats

2008-04-16 Thread Mojca Miklavec
On Wed, Apr 16, 2008 at 8:53 PM, Joel C. Salomon wrote:
 Same problem, fresh rsync from minimals:

  C:\Users\chesky\Programs\ConTeXtluatools --ini --compile cont-en


  LuaTools | creating initialization file cont-en
  LuaTools | using library path :
  C:/Users/chesky/Programs/ConTeXt/texmf-context/tex/context/base

 LuaTools | using lua libraries: l-string.lua l-lpeg.lua l-table.lua
  l-boolean.lua l-number.lua l-set.lua l-unicode.lua l-md5.lua l-os.lua
  l-io.lua l-file.lua l-url.lua l-dir.lua l-utils.lua l-tex.lua
  luat-env.lua luat-lib.lua luat-inp.lua luat-tmp.lua luat-zip.lua

 luat-tex.lua
  LuaTools | using compiled initialization file cont-en.luc
  LuaTools | using lua initialization file cont-en.luc

 LuaTools | running command: luatex --ini --lua=cont-en.luc
  C:/Users/chesky/Programs/ConTeXt/texmf-context/tex/context/base/cont-en.tex
  \dump
  (C:/Users/chesky/Programs/ConTeXt/texmf-context/tex/context/base/cont-en.tex
  (C:/Users/chesky/Programs/ConTeXt/texmf-context/tex/context/base/context.tex
  
 (C:/Users/chesky/Programs/ConTeXt/texmf-context/tex/context/base/syst-pln.tex)
  
 (C:/Users/chesky/Programs/ConTeXt/texmf-context/tex/context/base/syst-prm.tex)
  
 (C:/Users/chesky/Programs/ConTeXt/texmf-context/tex/context/base/luat-env.tex)
  (C:/Users/chesky/Programs/ConTeXt/texmf-context/tex/context/base/luat-lib.tex
  ! LuaTeX error ...ams/ConTeXt/texmf-context/tex/context/base/l-aux.lua:55:
  attempt to call field 'Carg' (a nil value).
  \ctxluabytecode ...ode  .. #1 .. str) end end }

  \registerctxluafile ...{\the \luabytecodecounter }
   \fi
  l.45 \registerctxluafile{l-aux}{1.001}

  ?

  Multiple runs of luatools --selfupdate and luatools --generate don't help.

  I'll try pulling again later, see if that works.

Just pulling later won't help you (most probably?).

I'm now updating LuaTeX for windows to the development version if that
would change anything (but I doubt it). You can try again in several
minutes. I'm actually sitting near a windows machine, so I can also
try it myself now.

Mojca
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Re: [NTG-context] mtx-update --context=beta?

2008-04-16 Thread Mojca Miklavec
On Wed, Apr 16, 2008 at 7:19 PM, Joel C. Salomon wrote:
 I'm putting together my own rsync calls based on the Minimals
  firstsetup.bat and Vyatcheslav's installer.  Found a difference:
  firstsetup.bat includes the switch --context=beta in its call to
  mtx-update.  What is the difference if it's used or no?

Hello Joel,

I have added that switch after Vyatcheslav has created his installer
(and forgot to ask him to support the switch in his GUI).
Vyatcheslav, I hope that you're reading this :)

Hans uploads current and beta releases on his web page (sometimes
also alpha, but not very often).
http://www.pragma-ade.com/download-1.htm
http://www.pragma-ade.com/download-2.htm
Beta versions mean: I have put some experimental stuff there - dear
users, please test and tell me if it works OK. If nobody complains for
several days or weeks, this will become a curren/stable release.

--context=beta means that it will sync with either beta (if one
exists) or current (if there is no beta). Default is
--context=current.

See also
   http://minimals.contextgarden.net/current/context/
You can also say --context=2008.01.11, but I have no idea whether
there is/will be space to store all of the distributions (I need to
move the files to Taco's server first).

By writing your own calls I meant even circumventing mtx-update (it
doesn't do anything really clever) and write rsync calls directly. If
you do that, you will have full control of what not to include (you
might want not to include fonts/other for example).

Mojca
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Re: [NTG-context] ConTeXt ultraminimals (was re: Perl/Ruby dependency)

2008-04-16 Thread Hans Hagen
Joel C. Salomon wrote:
 On Sat, Apr 12, 2008 at 3:02 AM, Hans Hagen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   Slight tangent: Is there any support for using any of the OpenType
   math fonts (I know of Cambria Math, STIX, and Asana Math—this last on
   tug.org) in mkiv?

  cambria ... probably in the near future (as tex gyre will also have math
  and), since stix is type 1 and spread over many fonts, it will not be
  supported (that is: i will not make the typescripts for pdftex, but
  someoneelse may see it as a challenge)
 
 So will Stix be supported in mkiv or ConTeXt+XeTeX?

quite probably not

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[NTG-context] gnuplot module

2008-04-16 Thread John Devereux
Mojca Miklavec [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 On Wed, Apr 16, 2008 at 5:18 PM, John Devereux wrote:
 Mojca Miklavec writes:

   However I have been using context for years, and may well have messed
something up! It seems to work OK with my normal documents. Except I
notice \usemodule[gnuplot] does not work.
  
   What exactly goes wrong?

  I have got this working now too. The problems were:

   - the syntax seems to have changed since I originally used it. Used
 to be \startGNUPLOTgraphic now needs to be \startGNUPLOTscript

   - I missed the bit on the wiki about enabling write18

   - I was misled by some examples (in the source code) into thinking
 that parameters go in curly brackets, but this does not work for
 me (and fails silently).

  So in the source code you have

   \startGNUPLOTscript{sin}
   plot sin(x)
   \stopGNUPLOTscript
   \useGNUPLOTgraphic{sin}

  but I needed


   \startGNUPLOTscript[sin]
   plot sin(x)
   \stopGNUPLOTscript
   \useGNUPLOTgraphic[sin]

  to make it work.

 I'm sorry about that. Yes, the syntax change is my fault, but it won't
 happen again. If I wanted to support
\useGNUPLOTgraphic[sin][1,3][width=.7\textwidth]
 and alike, the curly braces didn't fit in so nicely.

Yes it's fine, the square brackets are better.

 The module has initially been part of ConTeXt (Hans has written most
 of it at the beginning), but it was easier to develop it as a module
 once I started writing metapost code for the dedicated terminal etc.

 I have removed the faulty examples a few days ago (just didn't upload
 the new version yet). I was trying to write code in such a way that
 curly braces would work as well for backward compatibility, but failed
 to do so (the code is there, but only half of it works). However, all
 of these changes have happened rather early in the process and won't
 happen again.

 Moreover, it would be nice to get the TikZ terminal working with
 ConTeXt (I need to find some time for it, and then finally convince
 the gnuplot developers to include it into the binary).

I really like gnuplot and the gnuplot module. It is great to be able
to include the data inline with the document. And it would be nice to
see it part of the distribution. I am using a stock debian gnuplot, so
I don't know the implications of the context and TikZ terminals. Does
it mean I would not end up with so many  *-gnuplot-* files? :)

-- 

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Re: [NTG-context] mswincontext.zip

2008-04-16 Thread Hans Hagen
Idris Samawi Hamid wrote:
 Dear gang,
 
 There has not been an update to mswincontext.zip since last August... Are  
 there any plans to update this? For years now mswincontext.zip has been my  
 one and only TeX distribution. With the new TeX-Gyre and Latin Modern  
 fonts, as well as the rest of our developments, I think the time is way  
 overdue for a new release. And it is safer to install a fresh distribution  
 than to muck around with replacing the fonts etc.

i could update it ... but i was wondering if i still should supply it 
now that we have a new minimals system ... ok, we need to add scite to 
it ...

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Re: [NTG-context] [dev-context] New context release

2008-04-16 Thread Jan-Erik Hägglöf
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Hans Hagen skrev:
 Norbert Preining wrote:
 Hi all,

 On Mi, 16 Apr 2008, Taco Hoekwater wrote:
http://wiki.contextgarden.net/Release_Note

 for everything we did change and patch in the past 24 hours.
 If nothing bad happens, this release will go to CTAN (and
 debian, I presume) sometime tomorrow.

 Preliminary packages are available at the usual location
  deb http://people.debian.org/~preining/TeX/ context/
  deb-src http://people.debian.org/~preining/TeX/ context/
 Please give it a try.


It seems that the debian install on above repository not did work for me
as expected.
The luatex engine were lost.

I did the first-setup.sh script
and setuptex

and added necessary lines in my .bashrc

so my documents are build perfect.

I have ubuntu gutsy 7.10

with only minimal-context installed

All best and wishes
and thanks for this wonderful tool

no more microsoft word
no more LateX
forever conteXt

Janneman - Sweden

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[NTG-context] Pb with ConTeXt ver: 2008.04.16 17:34 and mkiv

2008-04-16 Thread Otared Kavian
Hi Hans and Taco,

I would like to report a problem with the latest release: I just  
updated my ConTeXt installation and got the following error message:

[…]
This is LuaTeX, Version snapshot-0.25.2-2008041100 (Web2C 7.5.6)  
(INITEX)
(/usr/local/gwTeX/texmf.texlive/tex/context/base/cont-en.tex
(/usr/local/gwTeX/texmf.texlive/tex/context/base/context.tex
(/usr/local/gwTeX/texmf.texlive/tex/context/base/syst-pln.tex)
(/usr/local/gwTeX/texmf.texlive/tex/context/base/syst-prm.tex)
! I can't find file `luat-env.tex'.
to be read again
\relax
l.153 \loadmkivfile{luat-env.tex}

Please type another input file name:

However ConTeXt mkii works fine (ConTeXt  ver: 2008.04.16 17:34 MKII   
fmt: 2008.4.16  int: english/english).
My previous version of mkiv used to work fine until  ConTeXt version  
2008.04.16 11:45.
For your information, I am running this on MacBook Pro Intel running  
MacOS X 10.5.2, and I follow Thomas Schmitz' indications to install  
LuaTeX.

Best regards: OK
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Re: [NTG-context] LuaTeX problems with \seeindex and \from

2008-04-16 Thread Drazen Baic
 On Tue, Apr 15, 2008 at 8:47 PM, Drazen Baic [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   On Tue, Apr 15, 2008 at 6:51 PM, Hans Hagen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Drazen Baic wrote:
   Hi,
  
   Here is a small test file. Compiled with 'texexec --lua' the register
   has only the entry 'Software 1' but it should have one additional
   entry 'Apache see Software'. This works OK when compiled with
   'texexec --xtx'
  
   \starttext
   \index{Software}Software
   \seeindex{Apache}{Software}Apache
  
   \placeindex
   \stoptext

  see was not supported yet; i added it

  I just did an update to ConTeXt 2008.04.15 21:21 and it works perfectly
  for my example above. But if you use abbreviations the 'see ...' entry in
  the registers shows the value between the brackets in the abbreviation
  definition. Here is a small example:

  \definesynonyms [abbreviation] [abbreviations][\infull]
  \setupsynonyms [abbreviation]
  \abbreviation [GCc] {\sc gcc} {GNU C Compiler}
  \abbreviation [GNU] {\sc gnu} {{\sc gnu'}s Not Unix}


  \starttext
  \index{Software}Software
  \seeindex{Apache}{Software}Apache
  \index[GCC]{\GCc}\GCc\
  \seeindex[GNU C Compiler]{\GNU\ C Compiler}{\GCc}\GNU\ C Compiler

  \placeindex

  \stoptext

  I defined the GCc abbreviation with small c on purpose to demonstrate
  that 'GCc' shows up in the register instead of {\sc gcc}.

  I tried to look at the file core-reg.lua and thought that the error has
  to be at

  if vv[1] == 'e' then
 -- format reference pagespec realpage
 flush(template.page:format(class,,,vv[4],vv[5],vv[3]))
  elseif vv[1] == 's' then
 flush(template.see:format(class,,,vv[5],vv[3]))

  but as I know nothing about Lua I gave up pretty soon.

  Regards,
  Drazen


I played a little bit around with the above sample and thought that
putting a second '\' in front of the second argument for the \seeindex
command could help as it looks like the abbreviation \GCc looses the
backslash when the 'see' entry is generated in the registry.

As this was working I looked at the '.toc' file and saw that the key and
entry values are enclosed between [===[ and ]===] but the abbreviation
\GCc wasn't. I thought that maybe this works like an escaping mechanism
and changed the command \mksaveregistersee in core-reg.mkiv from

\def\mksaveregistersee#1#2#3#4#5#6#7% class type reference key entry
see pagespec
  
{\expanded{\writeutilitytua{ti(jr['#1'],{'#2','#3',\!!bs#4\!!es,\!!bs#5\!!es,'#6','#7'})}}}

to

\def\mksaveregistersee#1#2#3#4#5#6#7% class type reference key entry
see pagespec
  
{\expanded{\writeutilitytua{ti(jr['#1'],{'#2','#3',\!!bs#4\!!es,\!!bs#5\!!es,\!!bs#6\!!es,'#7'})}}}

and it worked. I don't know if this breaks something else and if I was
right with what
I thought but the register is now created correctly and I couldn't see
anything weird
going on.

Regards,
Drazen
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Re: [NTG-context] mplib

2008-04-16 Thread Wolfgang Werners-Lucchini
On 16 Apr 2008 at 1:52, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Hallo,

  (I have temporary appended 'dump;' to plain.mp)
  After the above, you should have plain.mem in the local
 directory.
  
  No.
  There is neither a 'plain.fmt' nor a 'plain.mem'!
 
 Everything I read below says there should be a 'plain.mem'
 in the folder where you ran theat file in.  If there
 really really isn't, then my only advise to you is to buy
 a less thieving operating system, as it seems this one steals
 your files before you can even have an admiring look at them. :-)

I tried the same with 'mpost'. This has the advantage that one has 
not to adapt 'plain.mp'.

But here too, there is no 'mpost.mem' and no 'mpost.log'.

I have included a test before and after mp:finish().

Can anybody with a minimal under windows run this example?
---
\starttext
% start low-level
\startlua
local function finder(name, mode, ftype)
 if mode==w then
 return name
 else
 return kpse.find_file(name,ftype)
 end
end
mp = mplib.new ( {
 hash_size = 10,
 main_memory = 200,
 param_size = 10,
 find_file = finder,
 ini_version = true
} )
if mp then
 res = mp:execute(mpost)
 tex.print([ .. tostring(res.status) .. ])
 print(table.serialize(res))
 if io.open(mpost.mem,r) then
   print(found)
 else
   print(nothing)
 end
 res = mp:finish()
 print(table.serialize(res))
 if io.open(mpost.mem,r) then
   print(found)
 else
   print(nothing)
 end
end
\stoplua
% stop low-level
\stoptext
---

Gruß, Wolfgang
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Re: [NTG-context] Pb with ConTeXt ver: 2008.04.16 17:34 and mkiv

2008-04-16 Thread Mojca Miklavec
On Wed, Apr 16, 2008 at 10:42 PM, Otared Kavian wrote:

  For your information, I am running this on MacBook Pro Intel running
  MacOS X 10.5.2, and I follow Thomas Schmitz' indications to install
  LuaTeX.


Thomas - you should be happy not to attend the conference, else you
would probably be punished there for all the problems that Mac users
experience with LuaTeX recently :)

Mojca

PS: do not be taken seriously, of course :)
(I gave up the idea of enabling luatex system-wide already after some
unsuccessful tries last year.)
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Re: [NTG-context] [dev-context] New context release

2008-04-16 Thread Jonathan Kew
On 16 Apr 2008, at 7:56 pm, Norbert Preining wrote:

 Jonathan, Will: It is about TeX Live 2007 in Debian/lenny. There  
 will be
 no TL2008 in lenny. But we have recent context and recent luatex.

 It is about updating the lmodern fonts, currently we have 1.01x, the
 last before the otf and font names were renamed.

 What changes would be necessary for fontspec and/or euenc and/or xetex
 so that we don't break everything, and have a working:
   xetex
   context/xetex

Given that there won't be TL2008 in lenny, I think it would be very  
desirable to update xetex to a more recent version than 0.996 as  
shipped with TL2007. This would provide several important bug-fixes  
and improve compatibility with certain latex packages (I don't know  
much about the context situation). If you stay with the TL2007  
release, it will quickly look quite stale compared to other  
distributions that are around, and will frustrate users when features  
that others are using don't work for them.

If you're willing to consider this, I can make and tag a branch in  
our Subversion repository to give you a stable version to use (you'll  
need to use that rather than the TL repository). Let me know if I  
should do that. Don't try to grab the latest code from my TRUNK, as  
that's sometimes a bit too experimental.

JK

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Re: [NTG-context] [dev-context] New context release

2008-04-16 Thread Mojca Miklavec
On Thu, Apr 17, 2008 at 1:42 AM, Jonathan Kew wrote:
 On 16 Apr 2008, at 7:56 pm, Norbert Preining wrote:

  Given that there won't be TL2008 in lenny, I think it would be very
 desirable to update xetex to a more recent version than 0.996 as shipped
 with TL2007.

 (I don't know much about the context situation).

ConTeXt would be happy to have the \supressfontnotfounderror fix
available (which means: happy to have a binary version of XeTeX later
than the one in TL 2007), but should work OK with the old one with
some semi-serious time penalty. If one also forgets all the other nice
bug fixes in xetex, old LM fonts are the only issue that would really
break functionality.

Mojca
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Re: [NTG-context] [dev-context] New context release

2008-04-16 Thread Norbert Preining
On Do, 17 Apr 2008, Jonathan Kew wrote:
 If you're willing to consider this, I can make and tag a branch in  
 our Subversion repository to give you a stable version to use (you'll  

I am considering that, and (but) best would be to have a patch against
the sources in TeX Live 2007 (the bug fix branch I mean).

Is there a chance to get such a patch?

And we should at the same time update the necessary packages (is euenc
and fontspec enough?)

So, yes, I am consider that.

Best wishes

Norbert

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Re: [NTG-context] [dev-context] New context release

2008-04-16 Thread Norbert Preining
Hi Will,

On Do, 17 Apr 2008, Will Robertson wrote:
 All other XeTeX+LaTeX packages are unaffected and you should use the  
 latest versions from the SVN repository. If you need me to upload the  

Umpf, I don't like to package stuff that is in some svn repository for a
stable release, stuff that hasn't seen at least a decent amount of
testing.

Honestly, I fear to open a pandora's box here. We are now at a level
that I would have to:
- patch xetex and probably xdvipdfmx
- patch several tex packages
- update the lmodern fonts

And I am not sure that all this will *not* affect anything else in
TeX Live 2007!?!?

Furthermore, to be honest, I currently have not the time to prepare such
a big thing.

If one wants to step in and make a patch please grab

http://people.debian.org/~preining/TeX/src/texlive-bin_2007.dfsg.1.orig.tar.gz
and send a patch against it. It contains fontspec, euenc, and xltxtra.

Receiving this patch I can (re)consider the whole thing.

Sorry, but I have my time constraints, final theoretical mountain guide
exam, upstream TeX Live work, and a real life ;-


Best wishes

Norbert

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Dr. Norbert Preining [EMAIL PROTECTED]Vienna University of Technology
Debian Developer [EMAIL PROTECTED] Debian TeX Group
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GOLANT (adj.)
Blank, sly and faintly embarrassed. Pertaining to the expression seen
on the face of someone who has clearly forgotten your name.
--- Douglas Adams, The Meaning of Liff
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