Re: Silverlight?

2008-01-03 Thread Angus Scott-Fleming
On 3 Jan 2008 at 12:36, Micheal Espinola Jr wrote: > Well, hurrumph! I find the response to be just about the same. > > I don't visit microsoft.com for updating my servers. I visit it > directly from servers for emergencies: Which is primarily for > information searching, and updates/hotfixes.

RE: Silverlight?

2008-01-03 Thread Angus Scott-Fleming
On 3 Jan 2008 at 12:25, Michael B. Smith wrote: > We had a fairly major battle about this on MVP lists recently (in regards to > servers). > > The "official word" was: Don't use IE on a server. Use WSUS or SMS or > transfer the patch files and build your patch scripts. So small businesses that

Re: Silverlight?

2008-01-03 Thread Micheal Espinola Jr
; > Regards, > > Michael B. Smith > MCSE/Exchange MVP > http://TheEssentialExchange.com > > > > -Original Message- > From: Micheal Espinola Jr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2008 12:15 PM > To: NT System Admin Issues > Subject: Re: Silverlight? >

RE: Silverlight?

2008-01-03 Thread Michael B. Smith
rds, Michael B. Smith MCSE/Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.com -Original Message- From: Micheal Espinola Jr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2008 12:15 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Silverlight? I would expect they are going to get hit with a

RE: Silverlight?

2008-01-03 Thread Rod Trent
ystem Admin Issues Subject: Re: Silverlight? I would expect they are going to get hit with a backlash about this. Especially from people that only want to access downloads/kb/technet. I would hope those sites components could be kept Silverlight-free. I dont install flash on my servers, and I cert

Re: Silverlight?

2008-01-03 Thread Micheal Espinola Jr
I would expect they are going to get hit with a backlash about this. Especially from people that only want to access downloads/kb/technet. I would hope those sites components could be kept Silverlight-free. I dont install flash on my servers, and I certainly wont install silverlight. For ditch-ef

Re: Silverlight?

2008-01-03 Thread Angus Scott-Fleming
On 27 Dec 2007 at 12:26, Steve Kelsay wrote: > WTH is Microsoft Silverlight, and why and I suddenly besieged by pop ups > wanting me to install it? > > Please, Mommy, make it go away! (G) Bad news, you're probably going to have to install Silverlight soon, at least if you have senior-level us

RE: Silverlight?

2008-01-03 Thread Tim Vander Kooi
PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2008 5:46 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Silverlight? Well...supposedly, SCUP (part of ConfigMgr 2007) is supposed to allow easy updating for any non-Microsoft product. Microsoft has opened this up to any vendor but only a few have taken part in it. All

Re: Silverlight?

2008-01-03 Thread Micheal Espinola Jr
PM > To: NT System Admin Issues > Subject: RE: Silverlight? > > Presumably you'd be able to patch Silverlight via WSUS and/or SCCM. > > That's got to be a bunch easier than patching Flash > > Cheers > Ken > > -Original Message- > From: Micheal Espinola J

RE: Silverlight?

2008-01-03 Thread Rod Trent
distributed using the same methods as Windows Updates. Adobe knows about this as they once had Reader as a catalog file. -Original Message- From: Ken Schaefer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, January 02, 2008 10:28 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Silverlight? Presumably you&#

RE: Silverlight?

2008-01-02 Thread Martin Blackstone
That is my hope! -Original Message- From: Ken Schaefer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, January 02, 2008 7:28 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Silverlight? Presumably you'd be able to patch Silverlight via WSUS and/or SCCM. That's got to be a bunch e

RE: Silverlight?

2008-01-02 Thread Ken Schaefer
ave. It still doesn't make it a viable complaint. > > -Original Message- > From: Micheal Espinola Jr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Sent: Wednesday, January 02, 2008 11:52 AM > To: NT System Admin Issues > Subject: Re: Silverlight? > > Great. Now read the res

RE: Silverlight?

2008-01-02 Thread Andy Shook
That was so funny I forgot to type LOLjerk. :) Shook -Original Message- From: Webster [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, January 02, 2008 1:34 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Silverlight? > -Original Message- > From: Micheal Espinola Jr [mailto:

RE: Silverlight?

2008-01-02 Thread Tim Vander Kooi
stem Admin Issues Subject: RE: Silverlight? I agree with your basic point, but MS is not totally white hatted in this regard. IE7 being released multiple times as a critical security update comes to mind. > -Original Message- > From: Tim Vander Kooi [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] &

RE: Silverlight?

2008-01-02 Thread Tim Vander Kooi
ssage- From: Micheal Espinola Jr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, January 02, 2008 1:27 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Silverlight? No, and I havent... ;-) Although I really would have liked to have seen the clips of the new Jackass movie! On Jan 2, 2008 1:18 PM, Ch

RE: Silverlight?

2008-01-02 Thread Carl Houseman
esday, January 02, 2008 1:47 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Silverlight? I agree with your basic point, but MS is not totally white hatted in this regard. IE7 being released multiple times as a critical security update comes to mind. > -Original Message- > From: Tim

RE: Silverlight?

2008-01-02 Thread Kennedy, Jim
> To: NT System Admin Issues > Subject: RE: Silverlight? > At least Microsoft gives you a > straight up Yes/No option and doesn't try to slide one by the user. > TVK beltMessagingNinja.cfm> ~ ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja!~ ~

RE: Silverlight?

2008-01-02 Thread Michael B. Smith
- From: Micheal Espinola Jr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, January 02, 2008 1:27 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Silverlight? No, and I havent... ;-) Although I really would have liked to have seen the clips of the new Jackass movie! On Jan 2, 2008 1:18 PM, Christopher Bog

RE: Silverlight?

2008-01-02 Thread Webster
> -Original Message- > From: Micheal Espinola Jr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: Silverlight? > > No, and I havent... ;-) Although I really would have liked to have > seen the clips of the new Jackass movie! Shook doing his webcam stuff again? Webster

Re: Silverlight?

2008-01-02 Thread Micheal Espinola Jr
t; Teehee :) > > > -Original Message- > From: Micheal Espinola Jr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Wednesday, January 02, 2008 12:16 PM > To: NT System Admin Issues > Subject: Re: Silverlight? > > yea yea.. :-) and I do agree that WSUS will more than likely

Re: Silverlight?

2008-01-02 Thread Micheal Espinola Jr
TED] > > Sent: Wednesday, January 02, 2008 12:04 PM > To: NT System Admin Issues > Subject: Re: Silverlight? > > Well, poo-poo on you. > > Installing flash = pita. Upgrading flash for security issues = huge > pita. Thinking about having to do this for another produ

RE: Silverlight?

2008-01-02 Thread Tim Vander Kooi
n Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, January 02, 2008 12:13 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Silverlight? Hopefully it will be added to WSUS to update -Original Message- From: Micheal Espinola Jr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, January 02, 2008 10:04

RE: Silverlight?

2008-01-02 Thread Christopher Boggs
You don't really 'need' to see that stupid movie preview clip either, do you? Teehee :) -Original Message- From: Micheal Espinola Jr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, January 02, 2008 12:16 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Silverlight? yea yea.

Re: Silverlight?

2008-01-02 Thread Micheal Espinola Jr
to update > > -Original Message- > From: Micheal Espinola Jr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Sent: Wednesday, January 02, 2008 10:04 AM > To: NT System Admin Issues > Subject: Re: Silverlight? > > Well, poo-poo on you. > > Installing flash = pita. Upgrading flash fo

RE: Silverlight?

2008-01-02 Thread Tim Vander Kooi
ssage- From: Micheal Espinola Jr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, January 02, 2008 12:04 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Silverlight? Well, poo-poo on you. Installing flash = pita. Upgrading flash for security issues = huge pita. Thinking about having to do this for

RE: Silverlight?

2008-01-02 Thread Martin Blackstone
Hopefully it will be added to WSUS to update -Original Message- From: Micheal Espinola Jr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, January 02, 2008 10:04 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Silverlight? Well, poo-poo on you. Installing flash = pita. Upgrading flash for

Re: Silverlight?

2008-01-02 Thread Micheal Espinola Jr
l doesn't make it a viable complaint. > > -Original Message- > From: Micheal Espinola Jr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Sent: Wednesday, January 02, 2008 11:52 AM > To: NT System Admin Issues > Subject: Re: Silverlight? > > Great. Now read the rest of the thread. &

RE: Silverlight?

2008-01-02 Thread Tim Vander Kooi
I have. It still doesn't make it a viable complaint. -Original Message- From: Micheal Espinola Jr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, January 02, 2008 11:52 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Silverlight? Great. Now read the rest of the thread. On Jan 2, 2008 12:

Re: Silverlight?

2008-01-02 Thread Micheal Espinola Jr
l Espinola Jr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2007 11:37 AM > To: NT System Admin Issues > Subject: Re: Silverlight? > > Because Microsoft is on an advertising tear about it. It ridiculous. > Its everywhere. Even some movie preview sites require that >

RE: Silverlight?

2008-01-02 Thread Tim Vander Kooi
As opposed to the flash sites that require flash player to be installed before viewing those movies??? Oh the horror! -Original Message- From: Micheal Espinola Jr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2007 11:37 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Silverlight

RE: Silverlight?

2007-12-30 Thread Martin Blackstone
needs a “flash” type tool and player of its own if it wants to become a media darling (again?). From: Ken Schaefer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, December 30, 2007 8:37 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Silverlight? Marc, Do you have any inside knowledge on

RE: Silverlight?

2007-12-30 Thread Ken Schaefer
dor to put a scroll wheel on a mouse. I think everyone has them these days. I'm sure they've done a few other things during their time as well. Cheers Ken From: Marc Maiffret [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, 30 December 2007 9:21 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Silv

RE: Silverlight?

2007-12-29 Thread Marc Maiffret
56 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Silverlight? Just what the world needs - a new VHS vs. Beta war. How many of these crusades (challenging the estabilshed leader in web/Internet technology) have been outright winners for MS since Internet Explorer? Will they ever learn? The e

RE: Silverlight?

2007-12-28 Thread Rod Trent
: RE: Silverlight? If it’s needed to view Microsoft’s website we’ll have to install it someday. I imagine they will start using it more and more to stimulate us to do so. From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2007 9:39 PM To: NT System Admin Issues

RE: Silverlight?

2007-12-28 Thread René de Haas
ichael B. Smith MCSE/Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.com From: Micheal Espinola Jr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2007 2:31 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Silverlight? Glad to have another attack vector integrated into your browser that does the same t

RE: Silverlight?

2007-12-27 Thread Carl Houseman
From: Kurt Buff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2007 6:09 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Silverlight? Heh. We know how that song goes: "If we support an open standard, rather than 'embracing and extending' (read, subverting the standard), we&#

Re: Silverlight?

2007-12-27 Thread Kurt Buff
effort and investment would be better spent on moving the technology to > an open standard. > > Carl > > > From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2007 3:39 PM > > > To: NT System Admin Issues > Subjec

RE: Silverlight?

2007-12-27 Thread Carl Houseman
technology to an open standard. Carl _ From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2007 3:39 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Silverlight? Well, I think that Flash is "evil". Silverlight actually can do some things that Flash can&

RE: Silverlight?

2007-12-27 Thread Michael B. Smith
MCSE/Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.com From: Micheal Espinola Jr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2007 2:31 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Silverlight? Glad to have another attack vector integrated into your browser that does the same thing as another well-establ

Re: Silverlight?

2007-12-27 Thread Micheal Espinola Jr
lol, touche! On Dec 27, 2007 2:56 PM, Rod Trent <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > It's not Adobe. > > > > *From:* Micheal Espinola Jr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > *Sent:* Thursday, December 27, 2007 2:52 PM > > *To:* NT System Admin Issues > *Subject:* Re

Re: Silverlight?

2007-12-27 Thread Steve Ens
or silvershite. On Dec 27, 2007 12:23 PM, Micheal Espinola Jr <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I'm waiting for the opportunity to call it SilverBlight. > > > > > On Dec 27, 2007 1:20 PM, Barsodi.John <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > It's MickeySoft's version of Flash, they've been

RE: Silverlight?

2007-12-27 Thread Tim Evans
Because you don't have enough to do now? ...Tim From: Micheal Espinola Jr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2007 11:52 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Silverlight? Well yea, that's pretty much what I'm saying here: we already have a

RE: Silverlight?

2007-12-27 Thread Rod Trent
It's not Adobe. From: Micheal Espinola Jr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2007 2:52 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Silverlight? Well yea, that's pretty much what I'm saying here: we already have an app that does what Silverlight can d

Re: Silverlight?

2007-12-27 Thread Micheal Espinola Jr
CTED] > *Sent:* Thursday, December 27, 2007 2:31 PM > *To:* NT System Admin Issues > *Subject:* Re: Silverlight? > > > > > Glad to have another attack vector integrated into your browser that does > the same thing as another well-established product? > > No thanks - I&

RE: Silverlight?

2007-12-27 Thread Rod Trent
Flash is integrated, too, and does pretty much the same thing. From: Micheal Espinola Jr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2007 2:31 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Silverlight? Glad to have another attack vector integrated into your browser that does the

Re: Silverlight?

2007-12-27 Thread Micheal Espinola Jr
> > *From:* Barsodi.John [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > *Sent:* Thursday, December 27, 2007 1:21 PM > *To:* NT System Admin Issues > *Subject:* RE: Silverlight? > > > > > > It's MickeySoft's version of Flash, they've been talking about it for a > few ye

RE: Silverlight?

2007-12-27 Thread Rod Trent
stuff. From: Barsodi.John [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2007 1:21 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Silverlight? It's MickeySoft's version of Flash, they've been talking about it for a few years now. It's just starting to be used, by

Re: Silverlight?

2007-12-27 Thread Micheal Espinola Jr
I'm waiting for the opportunity to call it Silver*Blight*. On Dec 27, 2007 1:20 PM, Barsodi.John <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > It's MickeySoft's version of Flash, they've been talking about it for a few > years now. It's just starting to be used, by MS. > > > > > > From: Steve Kelsay [m

RE: Silverlight?

2007-12-27 Thread Barsodi.John
It's MickeySoft's version of Flash, they've been talking about it for a few years now. It's just starting to be used, by MS. From: Steve Kelsay [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2007 9:26 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Silverlight? WTH is Microsoft Silverli

Re: Silverlight?

2007-12-27 Thread Kurt Buff
Not interesting - how about absolutely predictable? It's their browser, and their technology, why would they provide a way to block it? I'll bet we see Firefox with some blocking technology RSN, though. On Dec 27, 2007 9:53 AM, Kennedy, Jim <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I find it interesting tha

Re: Silverlight?

2007-12-27 Thread Kurt Buff
Oh, goody. A competitor to Flash. Just what we need - I suppose they're going to compete on number of unpatched zero-day flaws, or how long it will take to fix bugs, or severity of bugs? Just tell me how to block it at the firewall, that's all I want. On Dec 27, 2007 9:36 AM, Micheal Espinola Jr

RE: Silverlight?

2007-12-27 Thread Kennedy, Jim
I find it interesting that it is one of the few pop ups that IE 7 fails to block. From: Steve Kelsay [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2007 12:26 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Silverlight? WTH is Microsoft Silverlight, and why and I suddenly besieged

Re: Silverlight?

2007-12-27 Thread Micheal Espinola Jr
Because Microsoft is on an advertising tear about it. It ridiculous. Its everywhere. Even some movie preview sites require that Silverlight is installed in order to see a stupid movie clip. Pscha! http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microsoft_Silverlight On Dec 27, 2007 12:26 PM, Steve Kelsay <[EMAI