On 3 Jan 2008 at 12:36, Micheal Espinola Jr wrote:
> Well, hurrumph! I find the response to be just about the same.
>
> I don't visit microsoft.com for updating my servers. I visit it
> directly from servers for emergencies: Which is primarily for
> information searching, and updates/hotfixes.
On 3 Jan 2008 at 12:25, Michael B. Smith wrote:
> We had a fairly major battle about this on MVP lists recently (in regards to
> servers).
>
> The "official word" was: Don't use IE on a server. Use WSUS or SMS or
> transfer the patch files and build your patch scripts.
So small businesses that
;
> Regards,
>
> Michael B. Smith
> MCSE/Exchange MVP
> http://TheEssentialExchange.com
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Micheal Espinola Jr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2008 12:15 PM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: Re: Silverlight?
>
rds,
Michael B. Smith
MCSE/Exchange MVP
http://TheEssentialExchange.com
-Original Message-
From: Micheal Espinola Jr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2008 12:15 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Silverlight?
I would expect they are going to get hit with a
ystem Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Silverlight?
I would expect they are going to get hit with a backlash about this.
Especially from people that only want to access downloads/kb/technet.
I would hope those sites components could be kept Silverlight-free.
I dont install flash on my servers, and I cert
I would expect they are going to get hit with a backlash about this.
Especially from people that only want to access downloads/kb/technet.
I would hope those sites components could be kept Silverlight-free.
I dont install flash on my servers, and I certainly wont install
silverlight. For ditch-ef
On 27 Dec 2007 at 12:26, Steve Kelsay wrote:
> WTH is Microsoft Silverlight, and why and I suddenly besieged by pop ups
> wanting me to install it?
>
> Please, Mommy, make it go away! (G)
Bad news, you're probably going to have to install Silverlight soon, at least
if you have senior-level us
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Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2008 5:46 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Silverlight?
Well...supposedly, SCUP (part of ConfigMgr 2007) is supposed to allow
easy
updating for any non-Microsoft product. Microsoft has opened this up to
any
vendor but only a few have taken part in it. All
PM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: Silverlight?
>
> Presumably you'd be able to patch Silverlight via WSUS and/or SCCM.
>
> That's got to be a bunch easier than patching Flash
>
> Cheers
> Ken
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Micheal Espinola J
distributed
using the same methods as Windows Updates. Adobe knows about this as they
once had Reader as a catalog file.
-Original Message-
From: Ken Schaefer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, January 02, 2008 10:28 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Silverlight?
Presumably you
That is my hope!
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From: Ken Schaefer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, January 02, 2008 7:28 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Silverlight?
Presumably you'd be able to patch Silverlight via WSUS and/or SCCM.
That's got to be a bunch e
ave. It still doesn't make it a viable complaint.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Micheal Espinola Jr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> Sent: Wednesday, January 02, 2008 11:52 AM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: Re: Silverlight?
>
> Great. Now read the res
That was so funny I forgot to type LOLjerk. :)
Shook
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From: Webster [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, January 02, 2008 1:34 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Silverlight?
> -Original Message-
> From: Micheal Espinola Jr [mailto:
stem Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Silverlight?
I agree with your basic point, but MS is not totally white hatted in
this regard. IE7 being released multiple times as a critical security
update comes to mind.
> -Original Message-
> From: Tim Vander Kooi [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
&
ssage-
From: Micheal Espinola Jr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, January 02, 2008 1:27 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Silverlight?
No, and I havent... ;-) Although I really would have liked to have
seen the clips of the new Jackass movie!
On Jan 2, 2008 1:18 PM, Ch
esday, January 02, 2008 1:47 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Silverlight?
I agree with your basic point, but MS is not totally white hatted in this
regard. IE7 being released multiple times as a critical security update
comes to mind.
> -Original Message-
> From: Tim
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: Silverlight?
> At least Microsoft gives you a
> straight up Yes/No option and doesn't try to slide one by the user.
> TVK
beltMessagingNinja.cfm> ~
~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja!~
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From: Micheal Espinola Jr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, January 02, 2008 1:27 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Silverlight?
No, and I havent... ;-) Although I really would have liked to have
seen the clips of the new Jackass movie!
On Jan 2, 2008 1:18 PM, Christopher Bog
> -Original Message-
> From: Micheal Espinola Jr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: Silverlight?
>
> No, and I havent... ;-) Although I really would have liked to have
> seen the clips of the new Jackass movie!
Shook doing his webcam stuff again?
Webster
t; Teehee :)
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Micheal Espinola Jr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Wednesday, January 02, 2008 12:16 PM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: Re: Silverlight?
>
> yea yea.. :-) and I do agree that WSUS will more than likely
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>
> Sent: Wednesday, January 02, 2008 12:04 PM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: Re: Silverlight?
>
> Well, poo-poo on you.
>
> Installing flash = pita. Upgrading flash for security issues = huge
> pita. Thinking about having to do this for another produ
n Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, January 02, 2008 12:13 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Silverlight?
Hopefully it will be added to WSUS to update
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From: Micheal Espinola Jr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, January 02, 2008 10:04
You don't really 'need' to see that stupid movie preview clip either, do
you?
Teehee :)
-Original Message-
From: Micheal Espinola Jr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, January 02, 2008 12:16 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Silverlight?
yea yea.
to update
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Micheal Espinola Jr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> Sent: Wednesday, January 02, 2008 10:04 AM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: Re: Silverlight?
>
> Well, poo-poo on you.
>
> Installing flash = pita. Upgrading flash fo
ssage-
From: Micheal Espinola Jr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, January 02, 2008 12:04 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Silverlight?
Well, poo-poo on you.
Installing flash = pita. Upgrading flash for security issues = huge
pita. Thinking about having to do this for
Hopefully it will be added to WSUS to update
-Original Message-
From: Micheal Espinola Jr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, January 02, 2008 10:04 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Silverlight?
Well, poo-poo on you.
Installing flash = pita. Upgrading flash for
l doesn't make it a viable complaint.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Micheal Espinola Jr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> Sent: Wednesday, January 02, 2008 11:52 AM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: Re: Silverlight?
>
> Great. Now read the rest of the thread.
&
I have. It still doesn't make it a viable complaint.
-Original Message-
From: Micheal Espinola Jr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, January 02, 2008 11:52 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Silverlight?
Great. Now read the rest of the thread.
On Jan 2, 2008 12:
l Espinola Jr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2007 11:37 AM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: Re: Silverlight?
>
> Because Microsoft is on an advertising tear about it. It ridiculous.
> Its everywhere. Even some movie preview sites require that
>
As opposed to the flash sites that require flash player to be installed
before viewing those movies??? Oh the horror!
-Original Message-
From: Micheal Espinola Jr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2007 11:37 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Silverlight
needs
a flash type tool and player of its own if it wants to become a media
darling (again?).
From: Ken Schaefer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, December 30, 2007 8:37 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Silverlight?
Marc,
Do you have any inside knowledge on
dor to put a scroll
wheel on a mouse. I think everyone has them these days.
I'm sure they've done a few other things during their time as well.
Cheers
Ken
From: Marc Maiffret [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, 30 December 2007 9:21 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Silv
56 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Silverlight?
Just what the world needs - a new VHS vs. Beta war. How many of these
crusades (challenging the estabilshed leader in web/Internet technology)
have been outright winners for MS since Internet Explorer? Will they ever
learn?
The e
: RE: Silverlight?
If its needed to view Microsofts website well have to install it someday.
I imagine they will start using it more and more to stimulate us to do so.
From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2007 9:39 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
ichael B. Smith
MCSE/Exchange MVP
http://TheEssentialExchange.com
From: Micheal Espinola Jr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2007 2:31 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Silverlight?
Glad to have another attack vector integrated into your browser that does the
same t
From: Kurt Buff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2007 6:09 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Silverlight?
Heh.
We know how that song goes:
"If we support an open standard, rather than 'embracing and extending'
(read, subverting the standard), we
effort and investment would be better spent on moving the technology to
> an open standard.
>
> Carl
>
>
> From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2007 3:39 PM
>
>
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subjec
technology to
an open standard.
Carl
_
From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2007 3:39 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Silverlight?
Well, I think that Flash is "evil".
Silverlight actually can do some things that Flash can&
MCSE/Exchange MVP
http://TheEssentialExchange.com
From: Micheal Espinola Jr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2007 2:31 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Silverlight?
Glad to have another attack vector integrated into your browser that does
the same thing as another well-establ
lol, touche!
On Dec 27, 2007 2:56 PM, Rod Trent <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> It's not Adobe.
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>
>
> *From:* Micheal Espinola Jr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> *Sent:* Thursday, December 27, 2007 2:52 PM
>
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* Re
or silvershite.
On Dec 27, 2007 12:23 PM, Micheal Espinola Jr <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> I'm waiting for the opportunity to call it SilverBlight.
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> On Dec 27, 2007 1:20 PM, Barsodi.John <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> > It's MickeySoft's version of Flash, they've been
Because you don't have enough to do now?
...Tim
From: Micheal Espinola Jr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2007 11:52 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Silverlight?
Well yea, that's pretty much what I'm saying here: we already have a
It's not Adobe.
From: Micheal Espinola Jr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2007 2:52 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Silverlight?
Well yea, that's pretty much what I'm saying here: we already have an app
that does what Silverlight can d
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> *Sent:* Thursday, December 27, 2007 2:31 PM
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* Re: Silverlight?
>
>
>
>
> Glad to have another attack vector integrated into your browser that does
> the same thing as another well-established product?
>
> No thanks - I&
Flash is integrated, too, and does pretty much the same thing.
From: Micheal Espinola Jr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2007 2:31 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Silverlight?
Glad to have another attack vector integrated into your browser that does
the
>
> *From:* Barsodi.John [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> *Sent:* Thursday, December 27, 2007 1:21 PM
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* RE: Silverlight?
>
>
>
>
>
> It's MickeySoft's version of Flash, they've been talking about it for a
> few ye
stuff.
From: Barsodi.John [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2007 1:21 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Silverlight?
It's MickeySoft's version of Flash, they've been talking about it for a few
years now. It's just starting to be used, by
I'm waiting for the opportunity to call it Silver*Blight*.
On Dec 27, 2007 1:20 PM, Barsodi.John <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> It's MickeySoft's version of Flash, they've been talking about it for a
few
> years now. It's just starting to be used, by MS.
>
>
>
>
>
> From: Steve Kelsay [m
It's MickeySoft's version of Flash, they've been talking about it for a
few years now. It's just starting to be used, by MS.
From: Steve Kelsay [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2007 9:26 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Silverlight?
WTH is Microsoft Silverli
Not interesting - how about absolutely predictable? It's their
browser, and their technology, why would they provide a way to block
it?
I'll bet we see Firefox with some blocking technology RSN, though.
On Dec 27, 2007 9:53 AM, Kennedy, Jim <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> I find it interesting tha
Oh, goody. A competitor to Flash.
Just what we need - I suppose they're going to compete on number of
unpatched zero-day flaws, or how long it will take to fix bugs, or
severity of bugs?
Just tell me how to block it at the firewall, that's all I want.
On Dec 27, 2007 9:36 AM, Micheal Espinola Jr
I find it interesting that it is one of the few pop ups that IE 7 fails
to block.
From: Steve Kelsay [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2007 12:26 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Silverlight?
WTH is Microsoft Silverlight, and why and I suddenly besieged
Because Microsoft is on an advertising tear about it. It ridiculous.
Its everywhere. Even some movie preview sites require that
Silverlight is installed in order to see a stupid movie clip. Pscha!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microsoft_Silverlight
On Dec 27, 2007 12:26 PM, Steve Kelsay <[EMAI
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