Re: [nysbirds-l] Is the Old Field Point Bird a Euro Herring Gull or a Hybrid LBBG x HERG?

2022-03-08 Thread Robert Lewis
Shai has made a good case for this bird being a European Herring gull, omissus.

OTOH, as Timothy Healy points out, there is the spectra of the many West coast 
hybrids looming in our faces.

If I may be so bold, surely Shai or one of his colleagues can capture the bird. 
 Get the DNA.

Bob Lewis
Durham NC

(long time NY resident)




On Tuesday, March 8, 2022, 10:54:33 AM EST, Timothy Healy  
wrote: 




This bird has certainly proven to be a fascinating case study, and the 
discussion across the various forums has been enlightening. I always appreciate 
the opportunity to learn from one of these community identification efforts, 
and I'm grateful for public venues like the listserv where experts can hash out 
the details in the open air. The specter of hybridization always hangs over 
discussion of unusual gulls. Documented hybrid swarms like the "Olympic Gulls" 
of the West Coast illustrate the need for caution when it comes to assigning 
birds to specific categories. I agree that mixed parentage should be considered 
with due diligence, but likewise that it should not be the default answer for 
any individual that is perceived as looking "off." Many of these Larus species, 
especially the Herring gull complex, are so wildly variable that they can 
account for many atypical birds even without getting into the muddy waters of 
hybrids, potential backcrosses, and the like. 

The case that has been made for this particular individual being a European 
Herring Gull is compelling, and this conclusion of this analysis has been 
backed, at least tentatively, by a few European birders who I've seen chiming 
in on different gull ID groups. I do wonder if we'll be able to gather enough 
evidence to surpass the threshold of "acceptability" for such an exceptional 
record, especially considering that the European taxa are likely candidates for 
a split (or according to some authorities, already separated at the species 
level) and thus a potential state record of note. Is there a precedence or 
protocol for NYSARC treatment of eminently splittable subspecies? If nothing 
else, I would encourage anyone who is interested and able to continue the 
collaborative study of this singular individual while it is still with us. As 
Shai mentioned in previous posts, some of the finer details of soft parts and 
primary patterns could still serve to be nailed down more conclusively. I did 
my best to secure useful images during my brief time with the gull this 
weekend, but I don't think I contributed anything to the records that hadn't 
already been photographed. 

Responding to Karlo's point about positively proving the occurrence of European 
Herring Gulls in eastern North American, a cursory eBird search reveals that 
many records do seem to be immature individuals. Confidently distinguishing 
between adults is indeed a prodigious challenge due to the range of variation 
in the complex, but a yellow-legged, dark-mantled "omissus" bird from the 
Baltic Sea region might just be the best chance you'd have at satisfactorily 
doing so.

Cheers,
-Tim H

On Tue, Mar 8, 2022 at 10:31 AM  wrote:
>  
> It sure seems that the sightings of the recent Slaty-backed Gull of Central 
> Park and the interesting yellow-legged Larus of Old Field Point has sparked 
> some of us to join the ranks of larophiles, especially during the late winter 
> birding doldrums. I tried doing a little research on American and European 
> Herring Gulls and find myself even more confused than before. 
> 
> 
> 
> According to Lars Svensson in his Birds of Europe, Second Edition (a great 
> field guide - think of the Nat Geo guides but with many more superb 
> illustrations and captions per page), the American Herring Gull was "recently 
> split from Herring Gull on account of distinct first-year plumage and slight 
> genetic difference. Very similar to Herring Gull, and adults often 
> inseparable".
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Shai states below that regarding the occurrence of European Herring Gulls in 
> eastern North America, "the small number of proven cases is not tiny". I'm 
> wondering how these cases were proven. It seems to me that the only way to 
> reliably identify an adult European Herring Gull on our shores would be only 
> if it were a yellow-legged, 'omissus' type. Or you could try sorting through 
> first-year Herring Gulls - good luck with that!
> 
> 
> 
> Finally, according to the AOU (per Wikipedia), the American Herring Gull is 
> considered a subspecies of the European Herring Gull. It appears then that if 
> the consensus on the Old Field Point bird turns out to be European Herring 
> Gull, it still wouldn't be considered a separate species.
> 
> 
> 
> Karlo Mirth
> 
> Forest Hills, NY
> 
> 
> 
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> 
> 
> -Original Message-From: Shaibal Mitra To: 
> birdw...@listserv.ksu.edu ; NYSBIRDS 
> (NYSBIRDS-L@cornell.edu) Sent: Mon, Mar 7, 2022 10:21 
> pmSubject: [nysbirds-l] Is the Old Field Point Bird a Euro Herring Gull or a 
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Re: [nysbirds-l] A Long Island, New York Larus with Yellow Legs

2022-02-24 Thread Robert Lewis
One more thought:  pretty far out, but did you consider the omissus form of L. 
argentatus in northern Europe?

Bob Lewis
Durham NC






On Thursday, February 24, 2022, 08:48:01 AM EST, Shaibal Mitra 
 wrote: 





Dear ID Frontiers NYSBirds,

I would appreciate feedback regarding an adult yellow-legged Larus found 22 Feb 
at Old Field Point, on the north shore of central Long Island, New York.

Broadly speaking, it is a Herring Gull type, but there are reasons to doubt 
each of the usual (and less usual) interpretations of Herring-like gulls with 
yellow legs in this region at this time of year.

Most often, such birds prove to be otherwise typical smithsonianus Herring 
Herring Gulls, which regularly show some degree of yellow color in the legs and 
feet in late winter and early spring (as do small numbers of local Great 
Black-backed Gulls). Another frequent interpretation is Herring Gull x Lesser 
Black-backed Gull hybrid, which the original finder, Patrice Domeischel, 
considered in the present case because of the bird's slightly darker than 
smithsonianus mantle. A third possibility, always present in the minds of New 
York gull aficionados, is Yellow-legged Gull, which was considered by Patrice, 
and also by Peter Osswald, who independently found the bird on 23 Feb. 

Patricia Lindsay and I studied the bird yesterday afternoon (23 Feb), and I 
have reservations about all three of these hypotheses, which are explained in 
my eBird report (link below). Briefly, Yellow-legged Gull is counter-indicated 
by this bird's heavier than expected head and nape streaking; it's notably 
large (larger than typical smithsonianus) apical spots on the primaries; and 
other details of the wingtip pattern (more white, less black than typical for 
smithsonianus, let along Yellow-legged Gull). The latter two points regarding 
the primaries also point away from Lesser Black-backed Gull ancestry. Finally, 
American Herring Gull is problematic by virtue of the subtly (but clearly) 
darker than typical mantle tone; the completely clear yellow tones of the the 
legs and feet; and details of the wingtip pattern. I could not see the orbital 
ring color. Photos by Patrice and Barbara Lagois seem to show it is red, but 
are not decisive on this point, in my opinion.

I wonder if this bird might represent a yellow-legged example of northern 
European L. a. argentatus, which I do not know well in life, but which is 
described as having a slightly darker mantle tone than smithsonianus, a wingtip 
pattern very similar to the present bird, and a relatively high incidence of 
yellow leg color.

My preliminary analysis (with photos by Barbara Lagois) and two of Patrice's 
checklists, also with excellent photos can be found here:

https://ebird.org/checklist/S103599677
https://ebird.org/atlasny/checklist/S103599196
https://ebird.org/atlasny/checklist/S103596988

Shai Mitra
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Re: [nysbirds-l] A Long Island, New York Larus with Yellow Legs

2022-02-24 Thread Robert Lewis
So, I'm no expert on Yellow-legged Gull, but I have studied the taxon from here 
in North America from time to time.  I've often seen birds that I think could 
be one form or another of YLGU.

Eliminating hybrid Lesser x Herring is going to be very hard.  I think that has 
to be the default explanation here, in spite of the very yellow legs.  Do you 
have closeups of the orbital ring?

As for YLGU, your bird seems to have too much head streaking for any of the 
forms in late February, even lusitanius. I also think YLGU should have a dark 
mark on P5.  But by all means, post the photos to the Western Palearctic Gull 
forum on facebook.

Some photos I took in Spain in summer 2018:    
http://home.bway.net/lewis/birds/ylguns.html

Shots of a similar bird at Hatteras on Jan 25:  
https://www.flickr.com/photos/rfermat/albums/72177720296308518

Bob Lewis
Durham NC




 On Thursday, February 24, 2022, 08:48:01 AM EST, Shaibal Mitra 
 wrote: 



Dear ID Frontiers NYSBirds,

I would appreciate feedback regarding an adult yellow-legged Larus found 22 Feb 
at Old Field Point, on the north shore of central Long Island, New York.

Broadly speaking, it is a Herring Gull type, but there are reasons to doubt 
each of the usual (and less usual) interpretations of Herring-like gulls with 
yellow legs in this region at this time of year.

Most often, such birds prove to be otherwise typical smithsonianus Herring 
Herring Gulls, which regularly show some degree of yellow color in the legs and 
feet in late winter and early spring (as do small numbers of local Great 
Black-backed Gulls). Another frequent interpretation is Herring Gull x Lesser 
Black-backed Gull hybrid, which the original finder, Patrice Domeischel, 
considered in the present case because of the bird's slightly darker than 
smithsonianus mantle. A third possibility, always present in the minds of New 
York gull aficionados, is Yellow-legged Gull, which was considered by Patrice, 
and also by Peter Osswald, who independently found the bird on 23 Feb. 

Patricia Lindsay and I studied the bird yesterday afternoon (23 Feb), and I 
have reservations about all three of these hypotheses, which are explained in 
my eBird report (link below). Briefly, Yellow-legged Gull is counter-indicated 
by this bird's heavier than expected head and nape streaking; it's notably 
large (larger than typical smithsonianus) apical spots on the primaries; and 
other details of the wingtip pattern (more white, less black than typical for 
smithsonianus, let along Yellow-legged Gull). The latter two points regarding 
the primaries also point away from Lesser Black-backed Gull ancestry. Finally, 
American Herring Gull is problematic by virtue of the subtly (but clearly) 
darker than typical mantle tone; the completely clear yellow tones of the the 
legs and feet; and details of the wingtip pattern. I could not see the orbital 
ring color. Photos by Patrice and Barbara Lagois seem to show it is red, but 
are not decisive on this point, in my opinion.

I wonder if this bird might represent a yellow-legged example of northern 
European L. a. argentatus, which I do not know well in life, but which is 
described as having a slightly darker mantle tone than smithsonianus, a wingtip 
pattern very similar to the present bird, and a relatively high incidence of 
yellow leg color.

My preliminary analysis (with photos by Barbara Lagois) and two of Patrice's 
checklists, also with excellent photos can be found here:

https://ebird.org/checklist/S103599677
https://ebird.org/atlasny/checklist/S103599196
https://ebird.org/atlasny/checklist/S103596988

Shai Mitra
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Re: [nysbirds-l] Interesting shorebird in Jamaica Bay

2021-11-07 Thread Robert Lewis
Why not the European race of Dunlin?

Bob Lewis




On Sunday, November 7, 2021, 02:48:55 PM EST, Joshua Malbin 
 wrote: 



Yesterday while kayaking in Jamaica Bay I photographed a shorebird that struck 
me as unusual. I ran photos past a couple of people, and Doug Gochfeld 
suggested that it appeared to be a hybrid, most probably a hybrid Dunlin X 
White-rumped Sandpiper. I have looked at photos of that combination on Macaulay 
and it does appear to be a pretty good fit to my inexpert eye. A weird bird and 
certainly not something I had on my radar at all.

I have posted a collection of photos in this eBird checklist for anyone 
interested in taking a look.

https://ebird.org/checklist/S97260771

Good birding,

Joshua Malbin

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Re: [nysbirds-l] ebird question, video posting

2021-08-08 Thread Robert Lewis
Thanks for all the answers.  Looks like ebird has a select list of those who 
can post videos.

So I uploaded the video to one of my web sites, and put a link in the ebird 
report.  Here's the video of the colorful Dickcissel doing sweet little 
"whits".  Is it calling to nearby fledglings?  (Croton Point, August 6)

http://home.bway.net/lewis/2U3A2642.MP4

Bob Lewis






On Sunday, August 8, 2021, 12:49:59 PM EDT, Anne Swaim  
wrote: 





As I understand it and as seems to be reflected in eBird link below, video 
upload is not yet an option for eBird checklists, except for a small sample 
subset of accounts. 

https://support.ebird.org/en/support/solutions/articles/48001064364-video-upload-guidelines


> On Aug 8, 2021, at 11:05 AM, Joshua Malbin  wrote:
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> I use my Vimeo account and embed the video in the comments. Can’t answer your 
> other question.
> 
> On Sun, Aug 8, 2021 at 11:02 AM Robert Lewis  wrote:
>> Then what is the procedure to upload a valuable addition to the record?  And 
>> why does the ebird documentation say one can upload MP4?
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Re: [nysbirds-l] ebird question

2021-08-08 Thread Robert Lewis
Then what is the procedure to upload a valuable addition to the record?  And 
why does the ebird documentation say one can upload MP4?

Bob Lewis




On Sunday, August 8, 2021, 10:30:09 AM EDT, Joshua Malbin 
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I’m fairly sure most people do not get to upload videos.

On Sun, Aug 8, 2021 at 9:05 AM Robert Lewis  wrote:
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[nysbirds-l] ebird question

2021-08-08 Thread Robert Lewis
I'm trying to upload an MP4 file (a movie), which supposedly is an allowed 
format, but I keep getting an error message, "this file type is not accepted."  
Anyone have this trouble?

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Re: Re:[nysbirds-l] Cold Spring Harbor Spoonbill Stuff

2021-07-29 Thread Robert Lewis
This question was asked and answered many years ago.  You can't count a bird 
for any life list that you see on television.  It's the same with today's video 
cams.  It's a reconstructed image via pixels.

There is a continuous progression:  the lens in your eye -> eye glasses -> 
lenses in binocular or telescope.

Bob Lewis







 On Wednesday, July 28, 2021, 11:46:47 PM EDT, rcech  wrote: 



Depends on what you mean by real. 

In last Harry Potter epidode Harry is in a heaven-like place discussing his 
last Voldermort encounter with Dumbledor.

"Professor," Harry asked, "Is this all real or is it just in my head?"

"Of course it's all in your head, dear boy, but that doesn't mean it's not 
real."

I suppose ABA needs rules on this sort of thing. When is a mental image 
recordable - always, or is this source-dependent? They have rules for 
everything else, after all.

I'd recommend doing whatever you want, actually. It's your life list, after all.

Just saying...



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Date: 7/28/21 11:10 PM (GMT-05:00) 
To: NYSbirds-L@cornell.edu 
Subject: Re:[nysbirds-l] Cold Spring Harbor Spoonbill Stuff 

Steve Walter’s spoonbill post got me thinking.
 
Occasionally, when I’m bored at work, I’ll turn on the live East Hampton Beach 
Cam just to see what I can see. Surf, weather, birds, etc.
 
I’ve been able to identify things like Barn Swallow, Sanderling, even LBB Gull. 
Would these count for Suffolk?
 
With binoculars, light is bent through the lens arrangement to focus on your 
retinas.
 
With the webcam, light is focused onto a CMOS chip, converted to zeros and 
ones, beamed to a satellite, beamed back to my computer, and then focused on my 
retinas.
Same thing, right? The time difference between the two is negligible.
 
I know, I know, it’s not the same. But it is “live” in the sense of time, and 
very real. (Not like that great Tom Brady video this week of him playing catch 
with a football passing machine).
 
What if I happen to see a Yellow-nosed Albatross cruise across my monitor one 
day? Can I count it and, better yet, should I even report it…..
 
The problems of the modern age.
 
 
 
 
 
 

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[nysbirds-l] (nysbirds-l] Montezuma area spoonbill

2021-07-23 Thread Robert Lewis
At 10:37am the spoonbill is perched in a tree a couple hundred yards west of 
the Route 89 bridge.  Bridge over the canal.  One can park just south of bridge 
and walk on a muddy path to get a view.  Scope helps.  

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> The previously reported Roseate Spoonbill in Dutchess County has been seen 
> by many appreciative birders throughout the day today. Whether it continues 
> or for how long are, of course, unknowns. 
> 
> The land owner has graciously extended permission for gentle birders to walk 
> in on their private lane to view the bird better. 
> 
> The rules are simple: park elsewhere (Holiday Inn?) and walk in on the lane, 
> but NO FURTHER THAN the power station. Do not drive in the lane and do not 
> impede access for others. 
> 
> Of course, be courteous and don’t crowd the bird. 
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Re: Re:[nysbirds-l] Roseate Spoonbill Dutchess County

2021-07-22 Thread Robert Lewis
Rochambeau Lane is here: 41.636802, -73.918611

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On Thursday, July 22, 2021, 10:34:48 AM EDT, Richard Guthrie 
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Holiday Inn is Listed as in Poughkeepsie, NY on RT  9, and the side road is 
Rochambeau Lane. 

> On Jul 22, 2021, at 10:26 AM, Richard Guthrie  
> wrote:
> 
> There’s a spoonbill viewable from the holiday inn parking lot off Rt. 9 in 
> “Wappingers Falls”, NY. (The one near Chambeau Lane). 
> 
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Re: [nysbirds-l] Golden Eagle in Queens

2021-04-30 Thread Robert Lewis
> I intended to share the pictures via the e-bird link. However, it appears 
> that Golden Eagle is marked as a sensitive species, so it gets blocked from 
> other viewers.

That is just ridiculous.  Yet another example of how inadequate ebird is for 
birders.  

Birders need a real bird sighting sharing app, explicitly for birding.    
Facebook is OK but some people refuse to use Facebook.  Whatsapp is OK but also 
limited.

Bob Lewis




On Friday, April 30, 2021, 12:03:49 PM EDT, Ian Resnick  
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Fantastic sighting!

Ian

On Fri, Apr 30, 2021 at 8:09 AM Steve Walter  wrote:
> This was actually on Wednesday, viewed from my hawk observation spot at Alley 
> Creek (northern end of Alley Pond Park). The bird passed a good distance to 
> the south of me, but I’ve seen enough Bald Eagles here to catch on to flight 
> and shape differences in this case. I knew it was imperative to attempt 
> getting pictures despite the distance involved. After cropping, photo 
> editing, and zooming in on the pictures, what can be seen are white wing 
> patches, both on the upper side and underside, in the places where they 
> should be on a Golden. White can also be seen at the base of the tail 
> underneath (can’t see the upper side). There is a hint of lighter (golden) 
> color on the top of the head. This was more evident in zooming in on original 
> RAW files. The wing shape is also suggestive of Golden, particularly in the 
> trailing edge to the base of the wing having a pinched in look.
>  
> I intended to share the pictures via the e-bird link. However, it appears 
> that Golden Eagle is marked as a sensitive species, so it gets blocked from 
> other viewers. Although as a transient bird, it isn’t really a sensitive 
> situation. Golden Eagle is quite rare on Long Island, only my second ever. 
> Surprisingly, it can be debated whether it was even the rarest raptor in the 
> boroughs portion of Long Island just that day. I don’t know. There was a 
> Burrowing Owl only a couple of years ago. But I guess a wintering Golden 
> Eagle recently too.
>  
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> Bayside, NY  
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Re: [nysbirds-l] Prospects for finding Progne today?

2021-04-03 Thread Robert Lewis
Bird is putting on a show perched on the peninsula. 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Apr 3, 2021, at 8:30 AM, Mike  wrote:
> 
> Any updates so far from folks on the scene?  I imagine there might be one or 
> two birders on their way. 
> Thanks
> 
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Re: [nysbirds-l] Prospect Martin NOW

2021-04-03 Thread Robert Lewis
Any recent reports?

Sent from my iPhone

> On Apr 3, 2021, at 9:04 AM, Doug Gochfeld  wrote:
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> Progne being seen around Duck Island on the east side of the lake, now.
> 
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Re: [nysbirds-l] Prospect Park Progne summary 04/02/21

2021-04-03 Thread Robert Lewis
How do birders in Brooklyn communicate with each other rapidly?  Whatsapp?  
Twitter?

Bob Lewis






On Friday, April 2, 2021, 9:27:27 PM EDT, Doug Gochfeld  
wrote: 





This morning, the Progne was perched in a tree at the NW corner of Prospect 
Park Lake with a dozen Tree Swallows and a single Northern Rough-winged 
Swallow. It stayed perched in the tree, puffed up in the sub-freezing temps, 
for several hours, only occasionally sallying out over the lake before 
returning to its arboreal perches. It finally went out to forage for the day 
around 11 AM. 

>From what I gather, it was putting on an excellent show for much of mid day 
>around the cove at the SW corner of the lake, best viewed from the nearby 
>gazebo. Around 16:00, it relocated to the area between The Peninsula and Duck 
>Island (both labeled on Google Maps), and it was there through 17:30. I am not 
>aware of other sightings past this time, though it was getting darker, cooler, 
>and presumably less insect-heavy around the lake by that time.

If it continues to follow today’s pattern, the NW shore of the lake, where the 
sun first hits, closest to the park entrance at Prospect Park SW and Vanderbilt 
Ave., would be the place to be early in the morning. It is supposed to be not 
quite as cold as last night here, and we’re slated for sun in the morning, so 
it should warm up more quickly than this morning.

The bird continued to strike me, and others, as smaller and shorter-winged than 
a Purple Martin, perhaps bringing Gray-breasted Martin into play as one of the 
more likely candidates.

Good Birding!
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Re: [nysbirds-l] Prospect Park Progne

2021-04-02 Thread Robert Lewis
I would appreciate any help anyone could give about driving and parking to get 
close to this site.

Bob Lewis
Sleepy Hollow


 On Friday, April 2, 2021, 8:42:17 AM EDT, Doug Gochfeld  
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A group of birders is currently looking at the intriguing Progne martin in 
Prospect Park. It is perched in a tree overhanging the NW corner of the lake. 
Nice comparison showing its apparently relatively small size for a martin.

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Re:[nysbirds-l] [hmbirds] Goose report

2021-03-16 Thread Robert Lewis
Anyone care to summarize the sightings today?

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Re: [nysbirds-l] Very dark "western" Red-tailed in Orange County

2021-03-15 Thread Robert Lewis
Apparently the same bird was seen by Tom Burke and Gail Benson on November 28, 
2020 in the same area.

https://ebird.org/atlasny/checklist/S76829523

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On Saturday, March 13, 2021, 8:51:06 AM EST, Robert Lewis  
wrote: 



While looking for the Ferruginous, I saw and photographed a seemingly black 
(underneath) Red-tailed Hawk in Orange County on March 10.  It looked black in 
the field, but is not really black. Photos have been posted to ebird and to the 
NY Birders facebook page. 

Very interestingly, it turns out that a very similar bird was seen and 
photographed five years ago close by. A great discussion has been going on 
about these birds and their point of origin on The Raptor ID facebook page.

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[nysbirds-l] searching ebird for a person

2021-03-14 Thread Robert Lewis
Is there a way to search ebird for a person's report on a certain day.  If I 
now  that Joe Smith filed a report on March 2, 2021, how can I find it?

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[nysbirds-l] Very dark "western" Red-tailed in Orange County

2021-03-13 Thread Robert Lewis
While looking for the Ferruginous, I saw and photographed a seemingly black 
(underneath) Red-tailed Hawk in Orange County on March 10.  It looked black in 
the field, but is not really black. Photos have been posted to ebird and to the 
NY Birders facebook page. 

Very interestingly, it turns out that a very similar bird was seen and 
photographed five years ago close by. A great discussion has been going on 
about these birds and their point of origin on The Raptor ID facebook page.

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Re: [nysbirds-l] Banded Ring-billed Gull

2021-03-05 Thread Robert Lewis
Well that was fast.  Thanks Ed.  I have a response already from Jean-François 
Giroux of Université du Québec à Montréal (UQAM).  The bird was banded as an 
adult in May 2016 in  Varennes, Quebec, near Montreal.  It was seen again in 
the same area in 2018 and 2019.  And now in Croton!

I also submitted it to the other web sites people gave.

Bob Lewis





On Thursday, March 4, 2021, 10:47:18 PM EST, Ed Gaillard  
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That sounds like the kind of band used by the University of Quebec at Montreal: 
https://goeland.uqam.ca/index.php/en/rapporter-une-observation-an/goeland-bec-cercle-an
 

Ed G.


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> I found an adult Ring-billed with a silver band on one leg and a blue band 
> with white letters on the other, today at Croton Point Park.  Who do I send 
> this to?
> 
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[nysbirds-l] Banded Ring-billed Gull

2021-03-04 Thread Robert Lewis
I found an adult Ring-billed with a silver band on one leg and a blue band with 
white letters on the other, today at Croton Point Park.  Who do I send this to?

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Re: [nysbirds-l] Croton Point Park

2021-02-14 Thread Robert Lewis
Besides the two on Feb 4 mentioned below, I posted photos of one on Feb 11.

Bob Lewis






On Sunday, February 14, 2021, 3:06:16 PM EST, Karen Fung 
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There's one unconfirmed eBird report of a Hoary there today.  Not from me; I've 
never seen one there, and haven't gone this weekend (yet).

Karen Fung
NYC

On Sun, Feb 14, 2021 at 3:04 PM Trachlar  wrote:
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> photographed by K. Lamb and two others and confirmed as such. This was before 
> the influx of common redpolls.  I understand one perhaps two were seen very 
> early in February I did not see those. 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
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>> On Feb 14, 2021, at 2:59 PM, Isaac Weiss  wrote:
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>> 
>> Approximately 2 weeks ago. 
>> I was there last Sunday, I had 32 common redpolls but no hoary.
>> 
>> Ari Weiss
>> 
>> On Sun, Feb 14, 2021, 2:40 PM Joshua Malbin  wrote:
>>> When was the last day anyone picked out a Hoary?
>>> 
>>> On Sun, Feb 14, 2021 at 11:38 AM Carney, Martin  
>>> wrote:
>>>> Really wanted to see an Hoary Redpoll, which would be a life bird!  Still 
>>>> glorious!
>>>> 
>>>> On Sun, Feb 14, 2021, 10:03 AM Robert Lewis  wrote:
>>>>> This amazing display has been going on since at least February 2, with 
>>>>> minor variations.   Two Hoary Redpolls were documented February 4, but 
>>>>> they are elusive recently.  The Meadowlark started becoming regular and 
>>>>> easy to see a few days ago.  There has also been a very reliable Ipswitch 
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>>>>> 
>>>>> Bob Lewis
>>>>> 
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>>>>>> were all feeding in close proximity, and not afraid of the 7 or 8 of us 
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Re: [nysbirds-l] Croton Point Park

2021-02-14 Thread Robert Lewis
This amazing display has been going on since at least February 2, with minor 
variations.   Two Hoary Redpolls were documented February 4, but they are 
elusive recently.  The Meadowlark started becoming regular and easy to see a 
few days ago.  There has also been a very reliable Ipswitch Sparrow, sometimes 
joined by a second.

Bob Lewis


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We were there on Friday the 12th with the same great birdy array

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> Sparrows, Song Sparrows, an American Tree Sparrow, a Meadowlark, and the 
> birds I most wanted to see: Common Redpolls! They were all feeding in close 
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[nysbirds-l] Some comments about the Orange County Ferruginous Hawk.

2021-01-31 Thread Robert Lewis
On January 31 I made my sixth trip to the Black Dirt region to look for the 
Ferruginous Hawk discovered two weeks ago.

I'm batting .500, succeeding three times to see the bird, once at a large 
distance only, once pretty close, and once very close.

It looks like the best way to see the bird close is to arrive on the area by 
around 8:15 and drive slowly up and down Onion or Celery.  The bird is often 
seen perched boldly in a tree right along the road.  Today I saw it about here: 
 41.370102, -74.426911.

Later it perched near 119 Celery, about here:  41.364916, -74.423115.  The 
woman there is very friendly to birders.

Later it hunted successfully over the fields east of 93 Celery, about here:  
41.367525, -74.415704.  I've seen it there on other trips.

There is a nice Stewart's here: 41.398049, -74.357277.  Turning off route 6 at 
the corner 41.398009, -74.358585 is the obvious way for me to drive to the area.

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[nysbirds-l] Ferruginous Hawk Jan 24?

2021-01-24 Thread Robert Lewis
Did anyone look on this frigid day?

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Re: [nysbirds-l] Ferruginous Hawk Jan 23rd?

2021-01-23 Thread Robert Lewis
Some advice to today's seekers.

I've been on the pilgrimage four times.  The first two without luck, the second 
two with good luck.  The last two times, it seems that the bird has become 
fairly predictable.  It is first seen from Celery or Onion around 8:30 perched 
in trees.  It is usually pretty far from the observer.  Between then and around 
12:30 it is seen soaring, flying, or perched on the ground in the middle of a 
big field.  Cedar Swamp Road and Celery Road overlook the same vast fields.  
Onion is slightly to the west and, looking east from there, one sees some field 
and some trees for the bird to perch in.  A good scope is essential. 

Your best hope for a really good view is that you'll find the bird in a field 
or tree and it will take off and fly very close to you.  Good luck!

Apparently it has not been seen recently from Pierce or Lynch.  Also, it is 
hard to find after about 1:00.  Correct me if I am wrong.

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[nysbirds-l] Ferruginous Hawk Orange Co.

2021-01-20 Thread Robert Lewis
Someone named Matthew Jarred has just posted to ABA Rare Bird Alert that the 
bird is in the same grassy field near Cedar Swamp road as yesterday.  


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[nysbirds-l] Ferruginous Hawk in Orange County

2021-01-16 Thread Robert Lewis
No joke.  Linda Scrima has posted photos on the Facebook page raptor id.  No 
specific directions were given.

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[nysbirds-l] Two Lesser Black-backeds at Jones Beach Field 6 today

2021-01-12 Thread Robert Lewis
One first winter still looking like a juvenile, one adult.  They were both on 
the beach just south of the parking lot at Field 6 about 2:00pm.

The first winter is quite different looking than the first winter Lesser I 
found at Heckscher State Park on Sunday.

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[nysbirds-l] Lesser Black-backed Gull Heckscher SP, Suffolk, LI

2021-01-11 Thread Robert Lewis
About 3:00pm January 10.  Parking lot of Field 6.  The bird looks a bit 
atypical to me for a Lesser.  Noticeable window in the inner primaries.  Tail 
has a great deal of white.

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Re: [nysbirds-l] Probable California Gull Heckscher SP, Suffolk, LI

2021-01-10 Thread Robert Lewis
I’m at Heckscher now.  There was a first year Lesser on field 6 for about ten 
minutes.  Just flew off.  Photos.  

Bob Lewis. 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jan 10, 2021, at 2:42 PM, Shaibal Mitra  wrote:
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> We spent a short time searching, with no luck. Nobody who was in touch with 
> me found it either.
> 
> Shai
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> Sent: Sunday, January 10, 2021 2:25 PM
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> Subject: Re: [nysbirds-l] Probable California Gull Heckscher SP, Suffolk, LI
> 
> Any luck with this bird today?
> 
> Bob Lewis
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> Sent from my iPhone
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>> On Jan 9, 2021, at 6:19 PM, Shaibal Mitra  wrote:
>> 
>> This afternoon I saw and photographed a first winter Larus at Field 7 
>> Heckscher SP that I think is a good candidate for California Gull--one of 
>> the most birds on Long Island among elusive abundant, migratory species.
>> 
>> The bird caught my eye by virtue of its face, and it passed the test I've 
>> applied to so many variant Larus over the decades, "can you see this as a 
>> Herring Gull?"--I could not. The enormous variability of Herring Gull, in 
>> combination with its abundance here, makes identification of California Gull 
>> one of the most difficult challenges on Long Island.
>> 
>> I was in the car, which is an advantage in some ways, but a disadvantage in 
>> others--such as when it was jumped by car moments later. I saw it only 
>> briefly and bare-eyed as it flew, but fortunately it landed again nearby. I 
>> re-oriented the car, studied it through the window-mounted scope, took some 
>> digi-scoped photos, then posed and answered the question referred to above 
>> to myself. I texted for reinforcements, but when I looked up the bird was 
>> gone, never to be seen again today, despite much searching by John Gluth, 
>> Mike McBrien, and others.
>> 
>> The field marks I noted in the field were its overall smaller than typical 
>> HERG size; small and slight bill which was pink-based with sharply 
>> demarcated black tip; all-black tail; seemingly less extensive/obvious pale 
>> panel in inner primaries when it flew the first time; and solidly dark bases 
>> to the greater coverts (contra those of same-aged HERG, checked in 
>> reference, which were spangled up as high as I could see).
>> 
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Re: [nysbirds-l] Probable California Gull Heckscher SP, Suffolk, LI

2021-01-10 Thread Robert Lewis
Any luck with this bird today?

Bob Lewis

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jan 9, 2021, at 6:19 PM, Shaibal Mitra  wrote:
> 
> This afternoon I saw and photographed a first winter Larus at Field 7 
> Heckscher SP that I think is a good candidate for California Gull--one of the 
> most birds on Long Island among elusive abundant, migratory species.
> 
> The bird caught my eye by virtue of its face, and it passed the test I've 
> applied to so many variant Larus over the decades, "can you see this as a 
> Herring Gull?"--I could not. The enormous variability of Herring Gull, in 
> combination with its abundance here, makes identification of California Gull 
> one of the most difficult challenges on Long Island.
> 
> I was in the car, which is an advantage in some ways, but a disadvantage in 
> others--such as when it was jumped by car moments later. I saw it only 
> briefly and bare-eyed as it flew, but fortunately it landed again nearby. I 
> re-oriented the car, studied it through the window-mounted scope, took some 
> digi-scoped photos, then posed and answered the question referred to above to 
> myself. I texted for reinforcements, but when I looked up the bird was gone, 
> never to be seen again today, despite much searching by John Gluth, Mike 
> McBrien, and others.
> 
> The field marks I noted in the field were its overall smaller than typical 
> HERG size; small and slight bill which was pink-based with sharply demarcated 
> black tip; all-black tail; seemingly less extensive/obvious pale panel in 
> inner primaries when it flew the first time; and solidly dark bases to the 
> greater coverts (contra those of same-aged HERG, checked in reference, which 
> were spangled up as high as I could see).
> 
> I'm writing up a detailed description but wanted to get word and photos out 
> for potential follow-up tomorrow:
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Re: Re:[nysbirds-l] [ebirdsnyc] Re: COMMON GULL Brooklyn NYC 12-7...

2020-12-11 Thread Robert Lewis
These photos clearly look like a Common Gull.

Is this really the same bird you posted a few days ago??

Bob Lewis






On Friday, December 11, 2020, 9:23:13 AM EST, Andrew Baksh 
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 Hi Robert,

Thanks for your feedback. I really did not and do not see the pro RBGU 
(Ring-billed Gull) features that you alluded to in your comment. But I concede 
that photos can be misleading and the ones I shared were likely not enough. I 
finally got around to processing a few images last night which I am linking to 
below that should solidify the case for Common Gull.

The pro Common Gull features for me included the neat tail band against a 
mostly clean unmarked tail, dull pink/greenish/brownish base to a “shallow” 
bill - this was tricky because the color of the bill was not that evident when 
looking at this bird from certain angles.  The dusky brown, more rounded median 
covert centers, long wings, even the new looking tertials were all just some of 
the features that had me thinking of Common Gull.

I am including here, links to a few more images that includes the one from the 
back of the camera shot that showed the tail and rump. Also, one that shows a 
1st year Ring-billed Gull in the background for comparison.

This was a very tricky bird and if I was being lazy (I have those moments), 
there was a good chance I might have overlooked it.

Here are the links to a few images.

https://flic.kr/p/2kfyJk9

https://flic.kr/p/2kfyQ3f

https://flic.kr/p/2kfyQ3R

https://flic.kr/p/2kfv4Lx

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> On Dec 9, 2020, at 9:13 AM, Robert Lewis  wrote:
> 
> I'm not convinced that this is a Common Gull.  Actually it looks more like a 
> Ring-billed to me.  Head and bill shape say Ring-billed.  I think I see some 
> sharply pointed brown interior marks on the worn coverts in the second photo. 
>  (That's the definitive mark.)  The streaking pattern on the chest and belly 
> is extreme for a Common Gull.  The chin is usually pure white on a Common 
> Gull.  The mantle and scapulars look more like Ring-billed. The tail pattern 
> is good for Common, but overall I get Ring-billed.
> 
> Bob Lewis
> Sleepy Hollow
> 
> 
> 
> On Wednesday, December 9, 2020, 6:34:12 AM EST, Andrew Baksh 
> birdingd...@gmail.com [ebirdsnyc]  wrote: 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> One correction to the site. Although I am sure some of you already figured 
> out the error. It’s Brooklyn Army Terminal Pier 4. I erroneously used “Bush” 
> from the nearby Park in the name.
> 
> See below a couple of links to images posted on Twitter.
> 
> https://twitter.com/birdingdude/status/1336502235673587713?s=21
> 
> https://twitter.com/birdingdude/status/1336627976012763139?s=21
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> 
> "I prefer to be true to myself, even at the hazard of incurring the ridicule 
> of others, rather than to be false, and to incur my own abhorrence." ~ 
> Frederick Douglass
> 
> 風 Swift as the wind
> 林 Quiet as the forest火 Conquer like the fire山 Steady as the mountain
> Sun Tzu  The Art of War
> 
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>> Sent from somewhere in the field using my mobile device! 
> 
> Andrew Baksh
> www.birdingdude.blogspot.com
> 
>> On Dec 8, 2020, at 3:40 PM, Andrew Baksh  wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> I observed and photographed at Bush Army Terminal Pier 4 Kings Co. what I am 
>> very sure is a Common Gull (Larus Canus). A first winter type whose centers 
>> to lesser and median coverts caught my eye as I was on my way out. A profile 
>> image and a back of the camera shot showing the upper tail were sent out for 
>> feedback from a few Larophiles, and the consensus is Canus.
>> 
>> If you are on Facebook, two images are posted in the Western Palearctic Gull 
>> Group.
>> 
>>  Cheers,
>> 
>> "I prefer to be true to myself, even at the hazard of incurring the ridicule 
>> of others, rather than to be false, and to incur my own abhorrence." ~ 
>> Frederick Douglass
>> 
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>> 林 Quiet as the forest火 Conquer like the fire山 Steady as the mountain
>> Sun Tzu  The Art of War
>> 
>>> (

Re:[nysbirds-l] [ebirdsnyc] Re: COMMON GULL Brooklyn NYC 12-7...

2020-12-09 Thread Robert Lewis
I'm not convinced that this is a Common Gull.  Actually it looks more like a 
Ring-billed to me.  Head and bill shape say Ring-billed.  I think I see some 
sharply pointed brown interior marks on the worn coverts in the second photo.  
(That's the definitive mark.)  The streaking pattern on the chest and belly is 
extreme for a Common Gull.  The chin is usually pure white on a Common Gull.  
The mantle and scapulars look more like Ring-billed. The tail pattern is good 
for Common, but overall I get Ring-billed.

Bob Lewis
Sleepy Hollow



On Wednesday, December 9, 2020, 6:34:12 AM EST, Andrew Baksh 
birdingd...@gmail.com [ebirdsnyc]  wrote: 




One correction to the site. Although I am sure some of you already figured out 
the error. It’s Brooklyn Army Terminal Pier 4. I erroneously used “Bush” from 
the nearby Park in the name.

See below a couple of links to images posted on Twitter.

https://twitter.com/birdingdude/status/1336502235673587713?s=21

https://twitter.com/birdingdude/status/1336627976012763139?s=21

Cheers,


"I prefer to be true to myself, even at the hazard of incurring the ridicule of 
others, rather than to be false, and to incur my own abhorrence." ~ Frederick 
Douglass

風 Swift as the wind
林 Quiet as the forest火 Conquer like the fire山 Steady as the mountain
Sun Tzu  The Art of War

> (\__/)(= '.'=)                                            
> (") _ (")                                     
> Sent from somewhere in the field using my mobile device! 

Andrew Baksh
www.birdingdude.blogspot.com

> On Dec 8, 2020, at 3:40 PM, Andrew Baksh  wrote:
> 
> 
> I observed and photographed at Bush Army Terminal Pier 4 Kings Co. what I am 
> very sure is a Common Gull (Larus Canus). A first winter type whose centers 
> to lesser and median coverts caught my eye as I was on my way out. A profile 
> image and a back of the camera shot showing the upper tail were sent out for 
> feedback from a few Larophiles, and the consensus is Canus.
> 
> If you are on Facebook, two images are posted in the Western Palearctic Gull 
> Group.
> 
>  Cheers,
> 
> "I prefer to be true to myself, even at the hazard of incurring the ridicule 
> of others, rather than to be false, and to incur my own abhorrence." ~ 
> Frederick Douglass
> 
> 風 Swift as the wind
> 林 Quiet as the forest火 Conquer like the fire山 Steady as the mountain
> Sun Tzu  The Art of War
> 
>> (\__/)(= '.'=)                                            
>> (") _ (")                                     
>> Sent from somewhere in the field using my mobile device! 
> 
> Andrew Baksh
> www.birdingdude.blogspot.com


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Re: [nysbirds-l] Kingston Mew gull turned out to be a young ring billed gull

2020-11-22 Thread Robert Lewis
I'll answer my own question.  Photos are here:

https://ebird.org/checklist/S76520435


Bob Lewis






On Sunday, November 22, 2020, 8:32:50 AM EST, Andrew Baksh 
 wrote: 





I did not think you twitched Larry given the carbon footprint and all 
(ducking). Just kidding.

I saw the photos last evening of the bird you referenced and offered my 
perspective on the ID. Indeed, it was a 1st CYC Ring-billed Gull (RBGU).

Larophiles in our area will tell you that the “candidate” from yesterday, is 
something we see in Brooklyn, Queens and the Island of Long. Nevertheless, it 
is always a good thing to take a more critical look at these diminutive looking 
RBGUs because one never knows what you may uncover even if it’s along the lines 
of learning more about the “common” species.

Good Gulling!


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Re: [nysbirds-l] Kingston Mew gull turned out to be a young ring billed gull

2020-11-22 Thread Robert Lewis
Where are the photos posted?

Bob Lewis





 On Sunday, November 22, 2020, 8:32:50 AM EST, Andrew Baksh 
 wrote: 


I did not think you twitched Larry given the carbon footprint and all 
(ducking). Just kidding.

I saw the photos last evening of the bird you referenced and offered my 
perspective on the ID. Indeed, it was a 1st CYC Ring-billed Gull (RBGU).

Larophiles in our area will tell you that the “candidate” from yesterday, is 
something we see in Brooklyn, Queens and the Island of Long. Nevertheless, it 
is always a good thing to take a more critical look at these diminutive looking 
RBGUs because one never knows what you may uncover even if it’s along the lines 
of learning more about the “common” species.

Good Gulling!


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Re: [nysbirds-l] New Gull Ulster County

2020-11-21 Thread Robert Lewis
Was this supposed to be Mew Gull?

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Report from just now at Kingston Point beach. 

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Re: [nysbirds-l] Sage Thrasher - Columbia County, NY

2020-11-05 Thread Robert Lewis
Thanks for the update.

The coordinates you gave for parking are the same as those for the bird.

Bob Lewis





On Thursday, November 5, 2020, 4:25:24 PM EST, Adrian Burke 
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After an hour+ of waiting (maybe longer by others on site before I arrived) the 
Sage Thrasher made an appearance in the back of a bush with black berries 
approximately right here (42.4017505, -73.5660115) at around 3:55 pm and stayed 
in view for a couple minutes. Patience required for this bird. 

Closest parking is here: (42.4017505, -73.5660115). Several parking options 
further down the road if it’s full there, all an easy walk to the bird’s 
location.

Adrian Burke
NYC

El El jue, nov. 5, 2020 a la(s) 7:06 a. m., Andrew Baksh 
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> Lindsey Duval just reported that she had the Sage Thrasher at the same 
> location that it was found yesterday by Barbara Sylvester. See below for 
> location and directions.
> 
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>> On Nov 4, 2020, at 6:32 PM, Richard Guthrie  
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>> 
>> Within 10 miles of Mass border.
>> 
>> A SAGE THRASHER was seen and photographed this afternoon (Nov. 4) at Ooms 
>> Conservation Area in Columbia County, NY. The location is about 1 mile off 
>> Exit B-2 (Taconic State Parkway) of the Berkshire Spur (I-90) of the NYS 
>> Thruway, or about 10 miles in from the Massachusetts border.
>> 
>> Address: 480 Rock City Road, Chatham, NY
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[nysbirds-l] Extra limital Common Cuckoo

2020-11-02 Thread Robert Lewis
Continues in Rhode Island.   Absurdly easy to get long close looks.  12:15 - 
1:15.  See RI ebird.  

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[nysbirds-l] extralimital mega rarity

2020-11-01 Thread Robert Lewis
Common Cuckoo in Rhode Island.  Check ebird.  Seen this morning. Near 
Providence.

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Re:[nysbirds-l] Tropical Kingbird

2020-10-29 Thread Robert Lewis
I haven't seen any posts here yet today.

The local (Westchester) bird app reports that some people looked for the bird 
between about 7:00 and 8:30am with no success.

The bird had been seen at several places between the Ardsley train station and 
Wicker's Creek.  That is approximately between 41.027419, -73.876248 and 
41.018232, -73.879174.  It was never seen very far from the river.  

Parking is free and easy at the south end of the Ardsley station.  It is easy 
to walk on paths from there to Wicker's Creek.  Access to Wicker's Creek is via 
the foot bridge at 41.019474, -73.877746.  This bridge is open to all.  
However, the public cannot legally park anywhere in the housing development 
called "The Landing."  That includes Clubhouse Drive, Landing Drive, etc.  
There do not appear to be many, if any, students physically on the Mercy 
College campus. 

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Re: [nysbirds-l] Kingbird

2020-10-28 Thread Robert Lewis
I think you mean Mercy College.

41.023364, -73.876451

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Now at Mercy Hospital parking area near rr tracks 

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Re: [nysbirds-l] eBird report: probable Tropical Kingbird, Westchester

2020-10-27 Thread Robert Lewis
Thanks!

I'm sure we would all appreciate parking hints for tomorrow morning.

Bob Lewis




On Tuesday, October 27, 2020, 7:34:04 PM EDT, Ryan Zucker  
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Haven’t seen this posted here, but a Tropical/Couch’s Kingbird (looks good for 
Tropical, apparently recorded too) was reported to eBird this afternoon in 
Dobbs Ferry, Westchester by Tom Warren.

https://ebird.org/checklist/S75497630

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Re: [nysbirds-l] American Golden-Plover declines - wind farms?

2020-10-23 Thread Robert Lewis
Good points.

I think many other species of shorebird go north in the spring through the 
midwest.  Have they declined as well?

Bob Lewis




On Friday, October 23, 2020, 7:59:22 PM EDT, David Nicosia 
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All, 

In Broome Co we have been fortunate to have had a great year for the AMERICAN 
GOLDEN-PLOVER. That is most definitely related to the drawdown of Whitney Point 
Reservoir which empasses ebird hotspots of Upper Lisle Co. Park, Dorchester 
Park and Keibel Rd.   But, based on looking at Bull's comment from his 1974 
publication and many of you chiming in on how much less common this bird is, 
what could be causing this decline?   The only thing that has changed 
significantly for this species , especially in the last 10-15 years, is the 
proliferation of wind farms in the central Plains and midwest. This is a major 
migratory pathway for this species especially in the spring and still even in 
the fall. The rapid and continued rapid deployment of wind farms in fields 
where these birds forage and rest on their way to the Arctic likely has 
something to do with the population declines.  The Arctic has not warmed much 
since 2010 and the fact that the Arctic was 2-4C warmer 8000 years ago vs today 
based on paleoclimate studies suggests that this is not a major factor at 
least yet. Winter grounds look similar and I could not find anything published 
related to a use of a new pesticide or herbicide down there. They also like the 
wetter areas on their winter grounds that are grazed by cattle which hasn't 
changed much. So unless the declines are cyclic related to availability of 
other prey for predators (lemmings etc) the only other thing to consider is the 
rapid increase in wind farms in a major migratory pathway for this species. I 
think as birders we have to be careful supporting wind farms.  Wind farms and 
solar farms Which can destroy a lot of field and forest habitat DO have an 
impact on birds. And energy companies don't care about this stuff, they want to 
make money. My contention is that wind farms are what is causing the declines 
in the golden plovers and other shorebirds passing through the middle of the 
country. With projections of a 4 times increase in wind farms by 2050, this 
could be a major issue. If our country goes through with this without a 
commitment from China, Russia or India to reduce CO2 emissions it will all be a 
waste.  So in summary I don't agree with Audubon's  position on renewable 
energy. I think it could have major negative impacts for our birds. A climate 
that is gradually warming likely will help birds, not hurt them. Summers 
without cold rainy periods are good for nesting. A warmer less stormy arctic is 
good for arctic nesting shorebirds. When we had a  very chilly summer with 
leftover snow in the Arctic a few years back I remember the nesting season was 
proclaimed really bad by researchers up there. So let's be very careful about 
supporting renewable energy when it leads to destruction of habitat and 
literally death of our birds. I am concerned about the future related to this. 

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Re: [nysbirds-l] Painted Redstart- Brooklyn

2020-10-19 Thread Robert Lewis
I would appreciate any recent updates.

Bob Lewis
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On Sunday, October 18, 2020, 03:49:04 PM EDT, Rob Bate  
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Richard Payne found a Painted Redstart at Floyd Bennett Field art the Ecology 
Village. This area is technically off limits so be extra respectful if you go. 
Park over by the gardens and walk there rather than park in the off limits 
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Re: [nysbirds-l] Another way to get into Rockefeller State Park Preserve

2020-09-16 Thread Robert Lewis
I have no statistics about break-ins here.  I've lived in Sleepy Hollow for 30+ 
years and do not recall hearing anything.

I do know that the three times I've been there, there have always been quite a 
few other cars parked there.  Once I got the last reasonable spot.  It's on a 
pretty major road.  There's a lot of foot traffic on the paths.

To each his own.

Bob Lewis


On Wednesday, September 16, 2020, 12:43:40 PM EDT, Lisa Curtis 
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 Please know that while this is a lovely free option Bob and others, it is also 
very well known for car break-ins. 

So, take your pick ~ pay the fee and have more people around or perhaps end up 
finding your car ransacked upon your return.

Happy birding all!

Lisa


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>  This is in Westchester County.  It's very popular among birders.
> 
> Most people park at either the main parking lot (fee) at 41.113252, 
> -73.834791, or the free area at 41.106365, -73.844567.  
> 
> Maybe everybody knew this but me, but there is a very attractive free third 
> option.  It's on route 448 at  A: 41.094967, -73.836635.  There is room for 
> around 10 cars here.  There is also room for maybe four cars at B: 41.094585, 
> -73.835872, but that is less attractive.
> 
> Google maps does not adequately show the trails here.  From A, walk around 
> the gate and IMMEDIATELY turn right and go up the path.  This merges with 
> another.  You pass a house on your right up a hill.  In 100 yards or so you 
> cross Rockefeller Brook. Turn right and join the main gravel trail about 
> 41.096705, -73.836470.  This is a very nice level path all the way to the 
> beautiful open fields area.
> 
> BTW the Stone Barns area is closed.  You can't park there.
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[nysbirds-l] Another way to get into Rockefeller State Park Preserve

2020-09-16 Thread Robert Lewis
This is in Westchester County.  It's very popular among birders.

Most people park at either the main parking lot (fee) at 41.113252, -73.834791, 
or the free area at 41.106365, -73.844567.  

Maybe everybody knew this but me, but there is a very attractive free third 
option.  It's on route 448 at  A: 41.094967, -73.836635.  There is room for 
around 10 cars here.  There is also room for maybe four cars at B: 41.094585, 
-73.835872, but that is less attractive.

Google maps does not adequately show the trails here.  From A, walk around the 
gate and IMMEDIATELY turn right and go up the path.  This merges with another.  
You pass a house on your right up a hill.  In 100 yards or so you cross 
Rockefeller Brook. Turn right and join the main gravel trail about 41.096705, 
-73.836470.  This is a very nice level path all the way to the beautiful open 
fields area.

BTW the Stone Barns area is closed.  You can't park there.

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Re: Re:[nysbirds-l] Plover at Sagg Pond

2020-08-30 Thread Robert Lewis
I'm not familiar with this park or parking lot.  There are many parks in the 
New York metro area where you are supposed to be a town or county resident, but 
if you arrive before a certain time, such as 8:00am, no one is there to stop 
you from parking.  No one checks you as you later drive out.  

Is it different here?  Will someone actually check later in the day that every 
car has a sticker of some sort?

Bob Lewis




On Sunday, August 30, 2020, 10:01:14 AM EDT, Jane Ross  
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Or go  early and leave the parking lot by 9:00 am



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Re: [nysbirds-l] Sunflower Valley Farm and Liberty Lane in Pine Island, NY are closed to birders.

2020-08-23 Thread Robert Lewis
There are many gravel roads in the greater Pine Island area.  Many of them are 
clearly public.  Which ones are privately owned?  What exactly are the 
boundaries of these private areas?  If there no obvious signs, how is anyone to 
know?

Bob Lewis
Sleepy Hollow NY






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Thanks. I wasn’t planning to try. It’s a big area around Pine Island, though, 
with lots of fields to bird, and I was just asking where else it *is* 
acceptable to go. I don’t want to create friction for local birders, and I am 
sure others feel the same. Pointers like Felipe’s about what is and isn’t okay 
are valuable to visitors and help us keep things friendly for locals. It would 
be nice if those guidelines were available someplace.

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> You cannot get permission to bird either in Sunflower Valley Farm or Liberty 
> Lane.
> Ajit I Antony, MD
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>> Is there anyplace to find out where in the area it is acceptable to bird, 
>> where it is not, where you need to ask permission and whom you need to ask, 
>> etc.?
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>> On Sat, Aug 22, 2020 at 3:28 PM Phil Jeffrey  wrote:
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>>> 
>>> The simplest idea - and something that clearly should have been done a 
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>>> "private" or "closed to birders"
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[nysbirds-l] Inquiry about birding in Hastings-on-Hudson

2020-08-16 Thread Robert Lewis
If anyone on this list birds frequently at Hastings-on-Hudson, I have a 
question about a spot on the Hudson River there.

Thanks,

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[nysbirds-l] Recent information about Spruce Grouse in the Adirondacks

2020-07-13 Thread Robert Lewis
In previous years some people have reported Spruce Grouse along Blue Mountain 
Road near Madawaska.  Any one try this year?  Any information would be 
appreciated.

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[nysbirds-l] Extralimital Red-necked Stint

2020-07-07 Thread Robert Lewis
The same spot in Rhode Island that had the Terek Sandpiper last week now has a 
beautiful adult Red-necked Stint.

https://ebird.org/alert/summary?sid=SN35613

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Re: [nysbirds-l] Records of Purple Gallinule in New York

2020-07-02 Thread Robert Lewis
Thank you for that resource Carena.

However, I notice that it lists 8 reports of Purple Gallinule.  Yet in the 1998 
report it says:

1998-55-A, One immature on Irondequoit Bay, City of Rochester, Monroe
Co., on 11 Oct 1998 (Jerry Sullivan). There are more than 35 records of this 
southern species for New York, involving both adults and immatures. All but six 
or so previous records are from downstate. Although most frequent in April and 
May, this species can occur in almost any month of year.

So at that point there were more than 35 records!  Evidently the large majority 
of records are not included in the NYSARC database.  Where would they be?

Bob Lewis







On Wednesday, July 1, 2020, 11:33:27 PM EDT, Carena Pooth  
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NYSOA’s NYS Avian Records Committee NYSARC) historical database:
https://nybirds.org/NYSARC/NYSARCActions.html 

Carena Pooth





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> For historical records look at Bull. Then try the NSARC site and ebird.
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[nysbirds-l] Records of Purple Gallinule in New York

2020-07-01 Thread Robert Lewis
Does anyone know how to find a list of all records of Purple Gallinule in New 
York?


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[nysbirds-l] Nearby mega-rarity

2020-06-28 Thread Robert Lewis
Terek Sandpiper, Rhode Island.

https://ebird.org/alert/summary?sid=SN35613

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Re: [nysbirds-l] Purple gallinule

2020-06-28 Thread Robert Lewis


I made the pilgrimage this morning to Twin Lakes, near Wantaugh, Nassau County, 
for the oft-reported Purple Gallinule. This time I had good luck, as someone 
was already on the bird when I arrived. June 28. (I spent more than two hours 
there Thursday afternoon with no success.) The bird hugs the west shore between 
about Ryder Place and the little entrance gate, which is a couple hundred feet 
north of Ryder. There is plenty of easy free parking. It can be VERY hard to 
find. It is VERY hard to get decent photos. I've posted two photos on the New 
York Birders facebook page.


I'm sorry that my post here around 7:30am caused confusion.  I wanted to get 
the word out quickly to those who may have already been there at some other 
spot on the lake.

Don't do what I did on Thursday: spend most of your time scanning out over the 
lake hoping to see the bird hopping around on the lily pads or flying over the 
lake.  In my experience and those I've talked to, the bird spends all its time 
hugging the shore, walking through the thick branches within ten-twenty feet of 
the path.  It really helps to have several pairs of eyes searching.  Even then 
it disappears for long stretches.  It occasionally calls.

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Re: [nysbirds-l] Purple gallinule

2020-06-28 Thread Robert Lewis
The often reported purple gallinule.  Twin lakes Nassau.  Near Wantagh. See 
previous posts.  Ryder Avenue.  

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> On Jun 28, 2020, at 9:02 AM, Andrew Baksh  wrote:
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> I believe the location is Twin Lakes Preserve in Wantagh, Long Island.
> 
> Try these coordinates (40.675957,-73.515862) to get a feel of the location; 
> you should also see where “Ryder” is as referenced by Mr. Lewis.
> 
> I hope this helps.
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> 
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> of others, rather than to be false, and to incur my own abhorrence." ~ 
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> 林 Quiet as the forest
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> Sun Tzu  The Art of War
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>> (") _ (") 
>> Sent from somewhere in the field using my mobile device! 
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>>> On Jun 28, 2020, at 8:34 AM, Larry Trachtenberg  
>>> wrote:
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>> Mr. Lewis this is a statewide list can you let folks know what “Ryder” is 
>> and where it is. 
>> Best
>> 
>> L. Trachtenberg 
>> Ossining
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>> Sent from my iPhone
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>>> On Jun 28, 2020, at 7:57 AM, Robert Lewis  wrote:
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>>> Hugging west shore near entrance at Ryder   First seen around 7:00.  Five 
>>> people following its slow progress
>>> 
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>>> Bob Lewis.
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[nysbirds-l] Purple gallinule

2020-06-28 Thread Robert Lewis


Hugging west shore near entrance at Ryder   First seen around 7:00.  Five 
people following its slow progress 


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[nysbirds-l] Purple martin house at Rockwood Hall, Westchester County.

2020-06-14 Thread Robert Lewis
There is a Martin house at Rockwood Hall, Westchester County, that is 
attracting Purple Martins! AFAIK this is only the second one in Westchester, 
after Croton Point Park. It is at 41.111839, -73.865339. This spot has 
always-free parking and an easy walk. Even better, there is an occupied 
Bluebird box at the same spot, and one of the martin "apartments" is occupied 
by a Tree Swallow. I've posted some photos to the NY Birders facebook page.

There are two good places to park at Rockwood Hall. The closer one for the 
martin house is the southern, at 41.79, -73.862094. The northern is at 
41.118027, -73.863211. Both get crowded on nice weekend days, so get there 
early or after 5:00.

(So just to reemphasize, when giving directions to a place in Rockwood Hall, 
you always have to specify which parking area you are referring to.)

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[nysbirds-l] Public roads near Nickerson Beach

2020-06-07 Thread Robert Lewis
I mean Nickerson Beach in Nassau County.

There are several public roads shown on google maps very close to the Lido 
Beach Passive Nature area.  

Seaspray Drive goes from the main highway south towards Malibu Beach.  Is it 
possible to drive on this?  Not park anywhere, but just drive on it?

Similarly, a few hundred yards to the east, several roads are shown going south 
toward several parking lots.  Is it possible to drive on these?  Not park 
anywhere, but just drive?    What about to the west at Sands Beach Club?

I am thinking someone could drive down one of these and let me off.

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[nysbirds-l] Nickerson Beach and Arctic Terns

2020-06-07 Thread Robert Lewis
Any news of Arctic Terns on LI, especially Nickerson?  I know an Arctic was 
seen a week or more ago farther east.

Have people been looking at Nickerson without success?  If so, how have you 
handled the logistics?

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Re: [nysbirds-l] Pomarine Jaeger - Nickerson Beach (Nassau County)

2020-05-30 Thread Robert Lewis
Thanks for the alert.

Anything new about access to Nickerson for those of us who are not residents of 
Nassau County?  For example, here in Westchester, Croton Point Park is open 
only to county residents.  On weekends they have road blocks set up 1/4 mile or 
more from the actual entrance.  Apparently they check driver's licenses.  But 
during the week, if you get there before 7:30am, you can just drive right in.  


Bob Lewis





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There is a Pomarine Jaeger being seen east of the eastern tern colony at 
Nickerson Beach. The bird appears to be in good overall shape (although I am 
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[nysbirds-l] Lawrence's Warbler at Rockefeller State Park Preserve

2020-05-24 Thread Robert Lewis
This morning two photographers discovered a bird that was later identified as a 
Lawrence's Warbler by a teenage birder.  It was at the junction of the Ash Tree 
Loop and the Farm Meadow Road, here  41.104187, -73.838732.   Good photos 
taken.  It sang the Blue-winged song.  Last seen around 11:15.



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[nysbirds-l] Recent Ironwood Road sightings

2020-05-22 Thread Robert Lewis
Park here:  41.234789, -74.237866

Blue-winged Warblers can be found in several places but are pretty consistent 
at the southeast corner of the electrical tower on top of the first hill to the 
south, approximately 41.232031, -74.236900

Golden-wingeds can be hard to find.  The best place seems to be roughly here:  
41.237642, -74.239385.  This is in the "valley" after the first hill to the 
north.  On the west side of the trail there is a group of five or six dead 
trees, pretty obvious.  A Golden-winged often sings here.

This morning there was a very vocal White-eyed Vireo just to the south, before 
the first hill.



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Re: [nysbirds-l] Nickerson Beach to be closed to NYC residents because of coronavirus

2020-05-19 Thread Robert Lewis
How will this be enforced?  For birding, in the past I simply arrived before, I 
think it was, 8:30.  Who will know?

Bob Lewis
Sleepy Hollow NY






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[nysbirds-l] Brewster's Warbler Saturday. Ironwood Road

2020-05-16 Thread Robert Lewis
I visited Ironwood Road again today and encountered the Brewster's Warbler.  It 
was quite close to where it was Thursday.  See previous message below. Three of 
us had it around 9:30.

It is not an easy bird to find.  It tends to appear for a few minutes and then 
disappear for 30 or minutes.  But it does seem to like the area between the 
second and third hills.  At one point it interacted with another warbler, which 
another birder said was a Golden-winged.  

Photos to be posted later in NYS Birds Facebook page.

Bob Lewis
Sleepy Hollow NY


On Thursday, May 14, 2020, 6:04:23 PM EDT, Robert Lewis  
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I and at least eight other birders tried for the Brewster's and Golden-winged 
Warbler along the power line trail at Ironwood Road.  We took the trail north 
of the parking lot.  I don't know if anyone went south.

Park here:  41.234766, -74.237734.

To get to the trail going north you have to walk out the south end of the 
parking lot, then loop around to the west and north.  Cross the stream.  When 
you leave the woods and head north you will cross over two small hills.  The 
first one is quite steep, the second not.  Start looking after the second hill 
and before you get to the third hill, which is really tall.  I've been told you 
can keep on going past that.

I encountered the Brewster's between the second and third hills.  However, I 
didn't get a very satisfying look and no good photo.  This was around 8:00 or 
8:30.  Another birder and I saw the Golden-winged in about the same spot thirty 
minutes later.

Both birds were elusive and frustrating.  I don't think anyone saw either bird 
after that.  I left about 10:30 and don't know what happened after that. 

Prairie Warblers are abundant.

Bob Lewis
Sleepy Hollow NY








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Sterling Forest was eerily quiet yesterday. I've never seen the place that 
empty, of birds and people. I still ended up seeing 55 species, including 14 
warbler species ,(I've never been so disappointed with such a high count). 
There was one golden-wing at the base of the hill, heading north on the power 
line trail at the end of Ironwood Dr. Further north, up the hill was a 
Brewster's warbler singing his little heart out. In fact, I saw more Brewster's 
warblers yesterday than I did golden-wings, one on the power line trail and one 
on the rifle range trail on the east side of Long Meadow Rd. And what's really 
amazing is that I'm fairly certain those are the exact same Brewster's I saw, 
in those exact same spots, singing the same unusual songs,  the last time I was 
there, 2 YEARS AGO! 

The other thing that struck me was that the golden-wings are going to be in 
trouble there and for once the culprits aren't humans. It's the beavers. 
They've dammed up the stream that runs through the swamp at the bottom of the 
hill on the east side of the power line trail (as you head north), creating an 
enormous pond and inundating a large tract of golden-wing nesting habitat. 
Beaver ponds that drowned warbler habitat at the rifle range and Blue Lake have 
been recently drained and the tussock sedge that the warblers nest in has 
regrown, but the beavers cut down so many trees and drowned so many others. The 
golden-wings (in Sterling Forest at least) like their nests to be in swamp 
forest not open swamp so I don't know if they are going to be able to move back 
in. It's hard times for everyone these days. 

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[nysbirds-l] Sterling Forest, Thursday. Ironwood Road

2020-05-14 Thread Robert Lewis
I and at least eight other birders tried for the Brewster's and Golden-winged 
Warbler along the power line trail at Ironwood Road.  We took the trail north 
of the parking lot.  I don't know if anyone went south.

Park here:  41.234766, -74.237734.

To get to the trail going north you have to walk out the south end of the 
parking lot, then loop around to the west and north.  Cross the stream.  When 
you leave the woods and head north you will cross over two small hills.  The 
first one is quite steep, the second not.  Start looking after the second hill 
and before you get to the third hill, which is really tall.  I've been told you 
can keep on going past that.

I encountered the Brewster's between the second and third hills.  However, I 
didn't get a very satisfying look and no good photo.  This was around 8:00 or 
8:30.  Another birder and I saw the Golden-winged in about the same spot thirty 
minutes later.

Both birds were elusive and frustrating.  I don't think anyone saw either bird 
after that.  I left about 10:30 and don't know what happened after that. 

 Prairie Warblers are abundant.

Bob Lewis
Sleepy Hollow NY








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Sterling Forest was eerily quiet yesterday. I've never seen the place that 
empty, of birds and people. I still ended up seeing 55 species, including 14 
warbler species ,(I've never been so disappointed with such a high count). 
There was one golden-wing at the base of the hill, heading north on the power 
line trail at the end of Ironwood Dr. Further north, up the hill was a 
Brewster's warbler singing his little heart out. In fact, I saw more Brewster's 
warblers yesterday than I did golden-wings, one on the power line trail and one 
on the rifle range trail on the east side of Long Meadow Rd. And what's really 
amazing is that I'm fairly certain those are the exact same Brewster's I saw, 
in those exact same spots, singing the same unusual songs,  the last time I was 
there, 2 YEARS AGO! 

The other thing that struck me was that the golden-wings are going to be in 
trouble there and for once the culprits aren't humans. It's the beavers. 
They've dammed up the stream that runs through the swamp at the bottom of the 
hill on the east side of the power line trail (as you head north), creating an 
enormous pond and inundating a large tract of golden-wing nesting habitat. 
Beaver ponds that drowned warbler habitat at the rifle range and Blue Lake have 
been recently drained and the tussock sedge that the warblers nest in has 
regrown, but the beavers cut down so many trees and drowned so many others. The 
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forest not open swamp so I don't know if they are going to be able to move back 
in. It's hard times for everyone these days. 

C. Klein

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[nysbirds-l] Croton Railroad Station gulls

2020-04-07 Thread Robert Lewis
Today around 6:00pm I found an immature Lesser Black-backed Gull at low tide at 
the Croton Railroad Station.  Two days ago about 5:00pm I found an immature 
Iceland Gull at the same place!  This is not supposed to be a gull hot spot -- 
or is it?  It looks like migration is on.  Maybe they stop here briefly on the 
way north.

I'm posting photos to the New York Birders facebook page and to ebird.

Bob Lewis
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Re: [nysbirds-l] Sands Point Preserve waving entrance fee

2020-03-20 Thread Robert Lewis
Let's try to keep politics out of this.

It's Covid-19.

Bob Lewis
Sleepy Hollow NY






On Friday, March 20, 2020, 2:24:45 PM EDT, Larry Trachtenberg 
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Really “Chinese” 





 

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Subject: [nysbirds-l] Sands Point Preserve waving entrance fee



 

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Due to the Chinese coronavirus, the Sands Point Preserve is waving their 
entrance fee for everybody.  


For existing and new members, they are extending the membership by an 
additional two months.



There will be no bathroom facilities during this time according to their 
website.



Just wanted to get this out there to people who are looking for someplace to 
bird and would normally balk at the $15 entrance fee.



 



Cheers,



Glenn




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[nysbirds-l] Golden Eagles in Dutchess County, Clove Road

2020-02-24 Thread Robert Lewis
This morning around 11:20 I photographed two Golden Eagles along Clove Road in 
Dutchess County.  This spot has been reported to Ebird in the last week or so.  
41.663458, -73.677943.  It's between Lagrangeville and Wingdale.  It's easy to 
park in the church parking lot.  Just look up!  There is a nice gas station and 
store 2.5 miles south.

It's amazing how many Bald Eagles find this spot attractive as well.  I'll post 
photos later to NY Birders on facebook.  And, oh yes, the area is seemingly 
overrun with Ring-necked Pheasants.

Bob Lewis 
Sleepy Hollow NY


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[nysbirds-l] Rough-legged Hawk(s) along Jones Beach today

2020-02-21 Thread Robert Lewis
I saw one, possibly two, Rough-legs along the Jones Beach strip today. 

About 11:30 I saw one just east of Field 5, 40.597417, -73.499946.  I was quite 
close to the bird but wasn't able to get any photos.  About an hour later I saw 
perhaps the same bird east of Gilgo around 40.621293, -73.384199.  I got some 
good photos and posted to New York Birders (facebook) and ebird.  I encountered 
that bird again farther east until 2:00.

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[nysbirds-l] Any reports of Bohemian Waxwing?

2020-01-08 Thread Robert Lewis
Anywhere in New York this winter?

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[nysbirds-l] Re: [nysbirds-l] Townsend’s Warbler -No

2020-01-02 Thread Robert Lewis
Not seen as of 1:15pm today Jan 2.  However there is an adult Black-headed gull 
on the little beach right there.  

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[nysbirds-l] Geese at Tarrytown Lake

2019-12-13 Thread Robert Lewis
On December 11 there were three Cackling Geese and an Emperor Goose on the 
lower Tarrytown Lake, at roughly 41.084088, -73.835863.  

Parking is not easy.  The road along the north shore is narrow and very busy 
with traffic.  One good place to park is the lot at 41.082389, -73.830403.  
Walk along the  bike path on the south shore.  

The number of Canada Geese here varies enormously by time of day.  Morning is 
bad, afternoon is good.  On Wednesday there were about 350 geese between 2:00 
and 3:00.  All had left by 3:20.

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Re: [nysbirds-l] Golden crowned sparrow yes at brook side

2019-11-23 Thread Robert Lewis
 Back at usual place near the feeders.  Seen off and on from about 8:00 to 
10:30.
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Re: [nysbirds-l] Golden-crowned Sparrow - Brookside County Park, Sayville - Nassau County

2019-11-18 Thread Robert Lewis
 Is parking easy during the week?  I may go out tomorrow.
Bob Lewis 
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Re: [nysbirds-l] Update Iceland Gull, Croton/OssinIng Hudson River shorelines

2019-11-10 Thread Robert Lewis
 Possibly the bird will reappear today at low tide at Croton RR station.  Low 
tide is around 3:00 - 4:30.
Meanwhile, some gull experts asked me, does anyone else have photos of the open 
wings?  

Bob LewisSleepy Hollow NY

On Saturday, November 9, 2019, 5:11:00 PM EST, Anne Swaim 
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 Great team effort tracking this bird with ongoing reports shared on the LoHud 
Birds WhatsApp group. 

Thanks to Peter Post for 1st report at Croton RR station!

After Larry Tractenberg re found it to the S at OssinIng waterfront behind 
Boathouse Restaurant, the bird then flew back N. 

Bob Lewis relocated it back at Croton RR station in waters b/n salt shed and Rt 
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 Thanks to all for reports! 

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Re: [nysbirds-l] Update Iceland Gull, Croton/OssinIng Hudson River shorelines

2019-11-09 Thread Robert Lewis
 There is a discussion about this bird on North American Gulls on facebook.  
Looks like it's a nominate race glaucoides.  Pretty cool.
Bob LewisSleepy Hollow NY



On Saturday, November 9, 2019, 5:58:53 PM EST, Robert Lewis 
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  I've posted some photos of the Iceland Gull I took at the Boathouse 
Restaurant in Ossining.  

Bob LewisSleepy Hollow NY

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 Great team effort tracking this bird with ongoing reports shared on the LoHud 
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Thanks to Peter Post for 1st report at Croton RR station!

After Larry Tractenberg re found it to the S at OssinIng waterfront behind 
Boathouse Restaurant, the bird then flew back N. 

Bob Lewis relocated it back at Croton RR station in waters b/n salt shed and Rt 
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 Around 4:50pm, the bird flew back S again toward OssinIng.

 Thanks to all for reports! 

Hope others re-find to view tomorrow. 

Pics being posted by a few ppl on eBird. 

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Re: [nysbirds-l] Update Iceland Gull, Croton/OssinIng Hudson River shorelines

2019-11-09 Thread Robert Lewis
 I've posted some photos of the Iceland Gull I took at the Boathouse Restaurant 
in Ossining.  

Bob LewisSleepy Hollow NY

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 Great team effort tracking this bird with ongoing reports shared on the LoHud 
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Thanks to Peter Post for 1st report at Croton RR station!

After Larry Tractenberg re found it to the S at OssinIng waterfront behind 
Boathouse Restaurant, the bird then flew back N. 

Bob Lewis relocated it back at Croton RR station in waters b/n salt shed and Rt 
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 Around 4:50pm, the bird flew back S again toward OssinIng.

 Thanks to all for reports! 

Hope others re-find to view tomorrow. 

Pics being posted by a few ppl on eBird. 

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Re: [nysbirds-l] Purple Gallinule in Central Park and the marathon

2019-11-03 Thread Robert Lewis
 I'd like to drive down and look for the bird today.  But today is the NYC 
Marathon!  Would it be best to wait and come down another day?  Could I get 
parking?   Could I even walk close to the bird?  

Bob Lewis 
Sleepy Hollow NY

On Saturday, November 2, 2019, 4:56:06 PM EDT, ArieGilbert 
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 viewed from this location at 16.54 on 11-2-19

HTTP://MAPS.GOOGLE.COM/maps?q=40.77965912,-73.96739027

40.77965912,-73.96739027

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[nysbirds-l] Orange-crowned Warbler at Croton Point Park today

2019-10-25 Thread Robert Lewis
A first year bird was at the model airplane field.  I was fortunate to get a 
photo of it perched on one of the fences.
The cap at Croton Point has been extensively plowed in the last week. There is 
very little grass of any kind left. There were no raptors at all on or over the 
cap for about 45 minutes that I was there in the afternoon.
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Re: [nysbirds-l] Lined Seedeater, Queens

2019-10-08 Thread Robert Lewis
 HUH?? This has been present since September 7??  And not a single post of that 
fact to this server before?  Or did I miss it?
Thank you Shai.
Bob Lewis 
Sleepy Hollow NY

On Tuesday, October 8, 2019, 4:41:42 PM EDT, Shaibal Mitra 
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 We birders are good at distinguishing between the improbable (e.g., seeing a 
Lined Seedeater in New York) and the imponderable (e.g., deliberately driving 
the Belt Parkway on a morning when one had been granted a reprieve from doing 
so). With a chance at the former as an inducement for the enduring the latter, 
I visited the Charles Memorial Park this morning, on the north shore of Jamaica 
Bay, directly north of the parking area where we stage for visits to the north 
end of the East Pond.

The male Lined Seedeater was skulky but still present, continuing from at least 
7 Sep:

https://ebird.org/view/checklist/S60461352

I'm not sure why this bird has not garnered more attention within the birding 
community. Lined Seedeater is a trans-equatorial austral migrant and a 
plausible candidate for natural vagrancy to North America. There is a specimen 
from the Isles of Shoals, New Hampshire, from 8 August 1935 (MCZ), and records 
of vagrants north of the regular northern South American austral winter (our 
summer) range from Costa Rica, and from Guadeloupe--the latter from 6-7 Sep 
2017, perhaps not coincidentally almost exactly the date the present bird was 
found this year.

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[nysbirds-l] American Golden Plover at Croton Point today

2019-10-05 Thread Robert Lewis
On the top of the cap, around 11:45.
Bob Lewis 
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Re: [nysbirds-l] Birding the Black Dirt Region, Orange County

2019-09-24 Thread Robert Lewis
 Its intersection with Pine Island Turnpike is unmarked and it appears to be a 
public road.  However, it is of no value to the birder as it ends quickly at 
some businesses.
Bob LewisSleepy Hollow NY

On Tuesday, September 24, 2019, 5:45:39 PM EDT, Ajit Antony 
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 Transport Lane is another private road that birders are not welcome on for 
about 15 years.
Ajit I. Antony
Mearns Bird Club, Orange County New York

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Trespassing is *against the law*. Adults should know this. Birders or 
photographers are *not* exempt. 
See the following document on proper behavior. Sheesh, does it really need to 
be posted? Apparently and sadly yes. Yes it does. 
https://docs.google.com/viewer?a=v&pid=sites&srcid=ZGVmYXVsdGRvbWFpbnxxY2JpcmRjbHVifGd4OjcyZDE1Nzk1MDNjZWM3Yzc
It will not take a lot for the selfish and inconsiderate to ruin it for the 
rest of us. Dont be one of them!
Arie GilbertNorth Babylon Queens County Bird Club inc. 


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3:22 PM (GMT-05:00) To: Felipe Pimentel  Cc: Robert 
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[nysbirds-l] Birding the Black Dirt Region, Orange County 
One should never enter the fields on Indiana Road. The last time I was there 
there were birders from a number of states trampling all of the fields, much to 
the dismay (right fully so) of the local farmers. So much so that there was 
talk of putting up a locked entrance gate. 
Peter Post

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There a several private roads but you can enter through Skinner’s lane and 
drive in the direction of Route 12 and look around for migrating shorebirds 
(now in early fall). You will pass several sad farms and now there a few 
“protected” medical cannabis farms too, and  the area is under surveillance. 
https://ebird.org/hotspots?hs=L1276465&yr=all&m=
The other road that is private but birders use is Indiana rd that is good for 
migrating hawks in Fall.
https://ebird.org/hotspot/L1041928
Avoid to enter the crop fields when you see workers and stay on the main dirt 
roads.
The other place to go is Pine Island Turf Nursery. I suggest NOT to visit that 
farm during the week since they are working and preparing the fields for 
winter. I generally go there ONLY during the weekends, when the place is more 
quiet.
https://ebird.org/hotspot/L1041928
Good luck!
Felipe


On Sep 23, 2019, at 2:07 PM, Robert Lewis  wrote:
A few weeks ago I asked here for directions about where to actually go in the 
Black Dirt region.  One can find many references to birding there online, and 
there are some ebird spots, but there are many dirt or gravel roads and many 
seem to be on private property, and many are obviously not driveable once you 
see them.  So what is an out-of-the-area birder supposed to do? 

I thank Felipe Pimentel who provided directions to the Pine Island Turf farm.
Yesterday I went exploring.  The attached map is the result.  Enter the area at 
Skinner Lane,41.320541, -74.435339.  My route is the narrow black line.  I went 
up Skinner Lane to the northwest until it meets Iris Road, which is called 
Celery Avenue on my Iphone map app.  Then I turned left and follow Iris a long 
time.  It is all an excellent gravel road.  I was surprised to see a bridge 
over the Wallkill River at 41.325083, -74.466914.  It is certainly driveable.  
The maps are wrong in that there is no connection between Iris andTransport at 
41.300798, -74.472080.
As for birds, there were very few.  But in a few months -- let's hope.


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Re:[nysbirds-l] Birding the Black Dirt Region, Orange County

2019-09-24 Thread Robert Lewis
 On my excursion of two days ago, which I posted about, I saw no "do not enter" 
or "private property" signs.  I am speaking of the gravel roads.   I would not 
even think of entering the fields.
Bob Lewis

On Monday, September 23, 2019, 4:05:43 PM EDT, sophiesaid 
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 Please note: that birding the farm formally known as the Warren Sod Farm (now 
known as the Sunflower Valley Farm) hasbeen *RESTRICTED* since last year and is 
not accessible to birders.  I have had conversations with the owner and he 
wanted me to pass along this information.To my knowledge there hasn't been any 
updates since then. 

Felipe and Bob: Warren Sod Farm/Sunflower Valley Farm  is the farm that the 
entrance is on Rt 12 between the silos.  This road leads to the "bridge: that 
Bob mentioned. The other side of the bridge is Skinner's Lane. This is private 
property and the farmer has stated that it is off-limits to birders.  They 
allow access by invitation only.
Pine Turf Nursery:  Please stop and ask for permission at the office first.  
The farmer have stated that they do not want cars on their road after a heavy 
rain.Please keep this in mind.
Skinner's Lane: Still open, but occasionally a worker will harass birders.  
THIS IS NOT A THROUGH ROAD. Please trun around before the bridge,as the farm 
across from the Skinner's Lane farm is the farm that is restricted to birders. 
Please exit through the same entrance you entered off Pulasky Highway.
Please be birding ambassadors in the Black Dirt.  Many Black Dirt farmers are 
seeing their requests disregarded.
Linda














 
 
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From: Peter 
To: Felipe Pimentel 
Cc: Robert Lewis ; nys birds 
Sent: Mon, Sep 23, 2019 3:22 pm
Subject: Re: [nysbirds-l] Birding the Black Dirt Region, Orange County

One should never enter the fields on Indiana Road. The last time I was there 
there were birders from a number of states trampling all of the fields, much to 
the dismay (right fully so) of the local farmers. So much so that there was 
talk of putting up a locked entrance gate. 
Peter Post

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On Sep 23, 2019, at 2:18 PM, Felipe Pimentel  wrote:



There a several private roads but you can enter through Skinner’s lane and 
drive in the direction of Route 12 and look around for migrating shorebirds 
(now in early fall). You will pass several sad farms and now there a few 
“protected” medical cannabis farms too, and  the area is under surveillance. 
https://ebird.org/hotspots?hs=L1276465&yr=all&m=
The other road that is private but birders use is Indiana rd that is good for 
migrating hawks in Fall.
https://ebird.org/hotspot/L1041928
Avoid to enter the crop fields when you see workers and stay on the main dirt 
roads.
The other place to go is Pine Island Turf Nursery. I suggest NOT to visit that 
farm during the week since they are working and preparing the fields for 
winter. I generally go there ONLY during the weekends, when the place is more 
quiet.
https://ebird.org/hotspot/L1041928
Good luck!
Felipe


On Sep 23, 2019, at 2:07 PM, Robert Lewis  wrote:
A few weeks ago I asked here for directions about where to actually go in the 
Black Dirt region.  One can find many references to birding there online, and 
there are some ebird spots, but there are many dirt or gravel roads and many 
seem to be on private property, and many are obviously not driveable once you 
see them.  So what is an out-of-the-area birder supposed to do? 

I thank Felipe Pimentel who provided directions to the Pine Island Turf farm.
Yesterday I went exploring.  The attached map is the result.  Enter the area at 
Skinner Lane,41.320541, -74.435339.  My route is the narrow black line.  I went 
up Skinner Lane to the northwest until it meets Iris Road, which is called 
Celery Avenue on my Iphone map app.  Then I turned left and follow Iris a long 
time.  It is all an excellent gravel road.  I was surprised to see a bridge 
over the Wallkill River at 41.325083, -74.466914.  It is certainly driveable.  
The maps are wrong in that there is no connection between Iris andTransport at 
41.300798, -74.472080.
As for birds, there were very few.  But in a few months -- let's hope.


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[nysbirds-l] Birding the Black Dirt Region, Orange County

2019-09-23 Thread Robert Lewis
A few weeks ago I asked here for directions about where to actually go in the 
Black Dirt region.  One can find many references to birding there online, and 
there are some ebird spots, but there are many dirt or gravel roads and many 
seem to be on private property, and many are obviously not driveable once you 
see them.  So what is an out-of-the-area birder supposed to do?  

I thank Felipe Pimentel who provided directions to the Pine Island Turf farm.
Yesterday I went exploring.  The attached map is the result.  Enter the area at 
Skinner Lane, 41.320541, -74.435339.  My route is the narrow black line.  I 
went up Skinner Lane to the northwest until it meets Iris Road, which is called 
Celery Avenue on my Iphone map app.  Then I turned left and follow Iris a long 
time.  It is all an excellent gravel road.  I was surprised to see a bridge 
over the Wallkill River at 41.325083, -74.466914.  It is certainly driveable.  
The maps are wrong in that there is no connection between Iris and Transport at 
41.300798, -74.472080.
As for birds, there were very few.  But in a few months -- let's hope.


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[nysbirds-l] Nickerson Beach, September 9

2019-09-10 Thread Robert Lewis
As I had to be on Long Island for something, I stopped at Nickerson Beach from 
about 3:00 to 5:00.  No one was collecting an admission fee.
At the (somewhat) wet area at the western end, 40.586620, -73.604425, there 
were a Baird's Sandpiper, a Western Sandpiper, some Semipalmated Sandpipers, 
Least Sandpipers, and one Buff-breasted Sandpiper.
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[nysbirds-l] Orange County birding RFI

2019-09-09 Thread Robert Lewis
I am interested in detailed birding advice for Orange County, especially the 
"black dirt region."
I have been to Pine Island and the Liberty Lane area.  Apparently Liberty Lane 
is private property and closed to entry now.
Apparently some Sandhill Cranes have been seen recently nearby; also American 
Golden Plover. I would like to see detailed directions to where they were seen, 
as well as a sort of "birders guide to the black dirt region."   Searching on 
line with google has not brought up very much.   Which dirt roads can one drive 
on?  What areas to avoid?

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[nysbirds-l] Re: [nysbirds-l] Western Kingbird reliably reported at Croton Point Park at 8:10 am this morning— now 4 days running since first noticed.

2019-08-20 Thread Robert Lewis
WEKI still present making the usual rounds.  Good views on dead snags from 
upper area. 10:00am.  Bring a folding chair food drink. Enjoy 

 

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Re:[nysbirds-l] [ebirdsnyc] Western Kingbird at Croton Point Monday, with new observation point

2019-08-19 Thread Robert Lewis
The WEKI was seen at the usual spots at Croton Point Park by 7-8 people between 
about 7:45 and 11:20.
Today it was seen low in the brushy area on the cap only early, around 7:45, 
AFAIK.  Around 8:45 it appeared in the high dead snags that it favors, then 
moved a bit west to the tree with all the berries.  That tree is right on the 
main road about 300 feet west of the high snags.  Then it returned to the high 
snags.  Both of those tree perches are not very good for getting a really good 
view of the bird.  A scope is desired.

However, I discovered a new vantage point.  Pay at the kiosk (free after 5:00 
on weekdays), then immediately turn right and drive up to the field where they 
fly model airplanes.  Park and walk south.  It is easy to find a vantage point 
to see the same dead snags from here.  You will be in the shade, 30 feet 
higher, and closer to the bird.
I will soon post photos that I took from this new vantage point on the New York 
Birders facebook page.
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Re: Re:[nysbirds-l] Croton Point Park Western Kingbird and Upland Sandpiper

2019-08-18 Thread Robert Lewis
 The last time the bird was seen yesterday was roughly 5:30.  Six or seven 
birders saw it on one of the secondary paths on the north side, around 
41.186110, -73.891340.
Bob Lewis 
Sleepy Hollow NY

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 Correction: Western Kingbird was at northeast side of landfill, not northwest. 
Was no longer present there around 5pm when I and others checked again but 
apparently was also missing there at that time yesterday, so may still be 
around. (Meant to update from field but phone died.)
Good luck to anyone who may be trying tomorrow or beyond.
Adrian BurkeManhattan, NYC
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Western Kingbird was present (may very well still be) when I and others were 
last looking (maybe 2:45?) at northwest end of landfill west of ballfields. It 
repeatedly returned to bare snags on north side of the road there. 
At the landfill, a skittish Upland Sandpiper continues, occasionally flying 
around giving good looks and listens to flight calls, but hard to see on the 
ground. It's been ranging over most of the area of the landfill, seemingly not 
faithful to any particular spot. Generally the western/southern part of the 
landfill.
Good birding,
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Re: [nysbirds-l] There is a western kingbird north east side landfill croton point park

2019-08-18 Thread Robert Lewis
WEKI at croton reappeared briefly 8:45.  From start of main path near ball 
field walk up hill around 200 feet.  Scan to north.  Patience.  Bird has been 
quite predictable. 

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> Not seen as of 15 minutes ago but tree line it was hanging out in was still 
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>> Thanks.
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>>> On Sat, Aug 17, 2019 at 1:32 PM Anne Swaim  wrote:
>>> Upland Sandpiper not re-found. As yet. (Past occurrences at Croton Point 
>>> grassland on landfill have tended to be brief, one night layovers.)
>>> 
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>>>> Thanks for the update, Robert.  Noticed an eBird report of Upland 
>>>> Sandpiper on the landfill this morning.  Any update on that bird?
>>>> 
>>>> Karen Fung 
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Re: [nysbirds-l] There is a western kingbird north east side landfill croton point park

2019-08-17 Thread Robert Lewis
Bird seen again.  Last seen about 11:50 flying north towards group campground.  
Over tallest trees 

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[nysbirds-l] Interesting Red-tail at Croton Point Park (Westchester County)

2019-08-12 Thread Robert Lewis
Yesterday afternoon I encountered a new adult Red-tail at Croton Point.  It 
seems to be either the Western race calurus or the northern Canadian 
abieticola.  I'm using this article for reference:
https://hawkwatch.org/images/stories/Learn/RTH_Aabieticiola_North_American_Birds_March_2014.pdf
The bird was strikingly rufous with an a large dark belly band with tear shaped 
marks, and extensive flank marks.  I'll post some photos soon to the New York 
Birders facebook page.
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[nysbirds-l] Any recent news from Cupsogue Park?

2019-08-08 Thread Robert Lewis
This ought to be shorebird season and Cupsogue (Long Island) has been good in 
past years.  But I haven't seen anything posted here.
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Re: [nysbirds-l] Black-backed Woodpeckers at the Roosevelt Truck Trail

2019-07-21 Thread Robert Lewis
In case anyone wants to look for these birds, here are a few more details.
Starting at the gate at the southern end, the trail climbs gently but steadily 
for a few hundred yards.  Then it plateaus.  I found the birds a couple hundred 
yards in on the plateau.  As a landmark, I've included (if it goes through 
here) a photo of a fairly distinctive log that was on the left (west) side of 
the trail.  It has two obvious bracket fungi. Listen for the birds' drumming.  

Bob LewisSleepy Hollow NY

On Saturday, July 20, 2019, 10:31:04 PM EDT, Robert Lewis 
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  The Roosevelt Truck Trail is near Newcomb.  Google it for directions.
Approximately 43.918648, -74.012845 this morning around 9:45 I had two 
Black-backed Woodpeckers.  I walked in from the southern end.  I've posted some 
photos on the New York birders facebook page.
Also there were about five Ruffed Grouse, a Blackburnian, a Yellow-rumped, and 
a Magnolia.  Quite a few Winter Wrens, Hermit Thrush.

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[nysbirds-l] Black-backed Woodpeckers at the Roosevelt Truck Trail

2019-07-20 Thread Robert Lewis
 The Roosevelt Truck Trail is near Newcomb.  Google it for directions.
Approximately 43.918648, -74.012845 this morning around 9:45 I had two 
Black-backed Woodpeckers.  I walked in from the southern end.  I've posted some 
photos on the New York birders facebook page.
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[nysbirds-l] Driving up I-87 tomorrow to Montreal

2019-07-15 Thread Robert Lewis
Anyone know of a nice place to take a break and bird not too far from I-87 (the 
Northway)?  Anywhere between Albany and Plattsburgh.  Some nice bog maybe?  
(Ferd's bog is too far out of the way.)

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[nysbirds-l] [nysbirds] Cupsogue mudflats this morning

2019-07-09 Thread Robert Lewis
I birded the flats at Cupsogue this morning from about 7:45 to 10:30.  Low tide 
was about 7:45. 

It was disappointing.  There were few birds.  Shorebird list:

- many many Willets.- many Oystercatchers
- about 100 Short-billed Dowitchers- a few Greater Yellowlegs- Two or three 
Least Sandpipers.- One Semipalmated Sandpiper- One Knot.
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[nysbirds-l] Lesser Black-backed Gulls at Robert Moses State Park

2019-07-08 Thread Robert Lewis
There were at least six from about 7:00 - 8:00 pm at the eastern end of Robert 
Moses, not far from the Fire Island Light House, around 40.629629, -73.217616.  
A nice variety of ages and stages of molt.  I'll post photos to the New York 
birders facebook page.
Bob LewisSleepy Hollow NY

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