saya bukan fund manager kok, saya org kecil doang. tp saya tahu ada
bbrp fund manager yg beli bumi di
900,950,990,940,900,850,800,750,710.
spt anda, saya temen temen saya beli BUMI juga pas gembar gembor di
960 krn wkt itu kata 'fundamentalist' bisa 1200-1500. nah pas 1000
saya gak jual krn
manajemennya, ,yakkhh.
- Original Message -
From: up_trends
To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com
mailto:obrolan-bandar%40yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, September 26, 2006 3:54 PM
Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Re: masih layakkah BUMI?
what
trend follower,
hmm blta,saya inget pas sama bumi harga sama sama di 670. tau pas
saya cut bumi saya switch ke apa ?average up BLTA. bbrp saham yg anda
punya juga saya punya. price di brp saya gak usah sebut.nanti
dibilang boong lagi.
hayo jawab siapa yg tadi tiba tiba ngaku suka eddy
He he he kalo tidak suka di tuduh boong jangan suka menuduh
orang boong dong masalah edi tansil kita sudahi disini ya...
hanya saya, istri, selingkuhan dan Tuhan yang tahu wakakakakakak
Emang saya punya saham apa aja tho Kalo saya bilang saya hanya
pengamat yang belum maen saham
perasaaan saya dr td nyantai aja.
jgn jgn anda yg dr tadi dah panas dingin ngeliatin . dr td ngomong
nyantai aja.
mungkin anda dah terlalu punya banyak bumi,jd ada yg nyinggung ttg
bumi jd super defensive.
i feel sorry for u dude. :)
--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, redyherinantoalb
. - Original Message - From: up_trends To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, September 26, 2006 3:54 PM Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Re: masih layakkah BUMI? what goes around comes around. boongin berita di bumi, ketimpa sial lumpur enrg. minum deh tuh lumpur sampe
,,yakkhh.
- Original Message -
From: up_trends
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, September 26, 2006 3:54
PM
Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Re: masih
layakkah BUMI?
what goes around comes around. boongin
berita di bumi
Wei stop...yg debat japri aja deh jgn lewat
milis
Cheers,
Karno
- Original Message -
From:
up_trends
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, September 27, 2006 3:10
PM
Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Re: masih
layakkah BUMI?
perasaaan saya
hi :Diam new, and please Mr FS, don't leave this forum :"(iam really helpful with ur opinion, pleasee. Plase forgive another, don't care them :DCheer allup_trends [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: perasaaan saya dr td nyantai aja.jgn jgn anda yg dr tadi dah panas dingin ngeliatin .
well ... mendingan battle di market daripada battle di milis ...
gitu khan maksudnya ...
that's why i don't concern in fundamental info
i just 100% concern in price ...
bagi saya ... ngga ada saham bagus maupun saham jelek (busuk) ...
yang ada hanya saham (yang harganya) naik dan saham
we still need u mr FSplease don't leave this forum...
On 9/27/06, boyz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
well ... mendingan battle di market daripada battle di milis ...gitu khan maksudnya ...that's why i don't concern in fundamental info i just 100% concern in price ...bagi saya ... ngga
Kok mkomentar komentar tentang bumi dari rekan milis yang nota bena ahli
pasar jadinya sangat subyektif sih?
Kalau langsir saya dari surat kabar,. yang saya dapat berita,... bukankah
EBITDA bumi masih sangat positif? Bukankah bank sekaliber Credit Suisse
masih berkenan jadi loan arranger nya?
Iya neh... punya 2 ribu lot nyantol di 1400 kelihatan ya??? :))
di pucuk gunung emang dingin seh... panas nggak...
Redy
--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, up_trends [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
perasaaan saya dr td nyantai aja.
jgn jgn anda yg dr tadi dah panas dingin ngeliatin . dr td
Di japri aja... orang nya baik kok...
Redy
--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, meifong [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
hi :D
iam new, and please Mr FS, don't leave this forum :(
iam really helpful with ur opinion, pleasee. Plase forgive
another, don't care them :D
bahahaha, mosok sih bung? anda dr tahun 2020?
biasanya org yg nyangkut emang emosional kalo di singgung. dan
biasanya org itu lebih baik thd org yg senasib
anda bisa valuein bumi 1400 ? saya juga bisa buat valuasi bumi 2000.
tinggal mainin angka aja ato 500 yah?
once again u have my deep deep
-bandar] Re: masih layakkah BUMI? what goes around comes around. boongin berita di bumi, ketimpasial lumpur enrg. minum deh tuh lumpur sampe kenyang. --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, "Jamal Nasution" jamal@ wrote:klo
cp nya beli bany
duh bingung pada marahan yak... bulan puasa ni euy.. hmmm...BUMI menurut abdi
teh sebaiknya nunggu di 660 or below it.. kalo ga dapet ? yo wis daripada
BOENTOENG ngambil di harga SEKARANG.. terus kena guyur LUMPUR PANAS .. peace ah
^^... salam hangat, gitto kurniasanto
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Ternyata ekspansi perusahaan Malaysia tidak hanya membeli perusahaan di Indonesia, tapi mereka ada niat memindahkan ibukotanya ke Sidoarjo...Kuala Lumpur (panas) Tigor Naelgitto kurniasanto [EMAIL PROTECTED] menulis: duh bingung pada marahan yak... bulan puasa ni euy.. hmmm...BUMI
maaf Pak, kalo boleh saya kasih saran, setiap saham ada sifat, gak
bisa di percaya research berita berita, wong berita div 200
merger , jual kpc bisa dibuat diingkari. gak taunya hasilnya BIG
FAT 0.
nah sekarang dapat pinjaman. itu beneran ato boongan?
yg tau cuman satu. yah itu si
Asetnya BUMI keliatannya masih menarik dhe.. ie
:Arutmin, KPC etc...
tapi manajemennya,,yakkhh.
- Original Message -
From:
up_trends
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, September 26, 2006 3:54
PM
Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Re: masih
what goes around comes around. boongin berita di bumi, ketimpa sial
lumpur enrg. minum deh tuh lumpur sampe kenyang.
--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Jamal Nasution [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
klo cp nya beli banyak berarti mo kesana
tapi klo belinya cuma dikit berarti barang banyak
Kalau anda nasabah CP minta ngomong aja sama analisnya yang bilang
fair value bumi itu 1000 lebih. Tanya dia gimana cara ngitungnya apa
asumsi yang mendasarinya dan bagaimana bisa mencapai ke angka
tersebut.
Nilai suatu saham baru bisa dihitung apabila perusahaan sudah
menerapkan Good
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, September 26, 2006 3:54 PM
Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Re: masih layakkah BUMI?
what goes around comes around. boongin berita di bumi, ketimpa sial
lumpur enrg. minum deh tuh lumpur sampe kenyang.
--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Jamal
dhe.. ie :Arutmin, KPC etc... tapi manajemennya,,yakkhh. - Original Message - From: up_trends To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, September 26, 2006 3:54 PM Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Re: masih layakkah BUMI? what goes around comes around. boongin berita di bumi, ketimpa
sial
,,yakkhh.
- Original Message -
From: up_trends
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, September 26, 2006 3:54 PM
Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Re: masih layakkah BUMI?
what goes around comes around. boongin berita di bumi, ketimpa
sial
lumpur enrg. minum deh tuh
Asetnya BUMI keliatannya masih menarik dhe.. ie :Arutmin, KPC etc... tapi manajemennya,,yakkhh. - Original Message - From: up_trends To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, September 26, 2006 3:54 PM Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Re: masih layakkah BUMI?what goes around
Ini link nya pak semoga membantu :D
http://www.klubsaham.com/modules.php?op=modloadname=Newsfile=articlesid=52mode=threadorder=0thold=0
On 9/26/06, ji3soe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Kalau anda nasabah CP minta ngomong aja sama analisnya yang bilang
fair value
.
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From: up_trends
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, September 26, 2006 3:54 PM
Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Re: masih layakkah BUMI?
what goes around comes around. boongin berita di bumi, ketimpa
sial
lumpur enrg. minum deh tuh
.
- Original Message -
From: up_trends
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, September 26, 2006 3:54 PM
Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Re: masih layakkah BUMI?
what goes around comes around. boongin berita di bumi, ketimpa
sial
lumpur enrg. minum deh tuh lumpur sampe
.
- Original Message -
From: up_trends
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, September 26, 2006 3:54 PM
Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Re: masih layakkah BUMI?
what goes around comes around. boongin berita di bumi, ketimpa
sial
lumpur enrg. minum deh tuh
,,yakkhh. - Original Message - From: up_trends To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, September 26, 2006 3:54 PM Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Re: masih layakkah BUMI? what goes around comes around. boongin berita di bumi, ketimpa sial lumpur enrg. minum deh tuh
.
- Original Message -
From: up_trends
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, September 26, 2006 3:54 PM
Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Re: masih layakkah BUMI?
what goes around comes around. boongin berita di bumi,
ketimpa
sial
lumpur enrg. minum deh tuh
.. ie :Arutmin, KPC
etc...
tapi manajemennya,,yakkhh.
- Original Message -
From: up_trends
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, September 26, 2006 3:54 PM
Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Re: masih layakkah BUMI?
what goes around comes around
Asetnya BUMI keliatannya masih menarik dhe.. ie :Arutmin, KPC etc...tapi manajemennya,,yakkhh. - Original Message -From: up_trendsTo: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.comSent:
Tuesday, September 26, 2006 3:54 PMSubject: [obrolan-bandar] Re: masih layakkah BUMI
( haha, yeah rite, unfortunately, i was wise enough to invest in untr
at 2500 at that time )
and sell it at 2700? Joke... joke... :D
It's call Edi Tansil... or goyang dikit udah keluar :))
Joke aa... saya juga sering gitu kok
Redy
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From: up_trends
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, September 26, 2006 3:54 PM
Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Re: masih layakkah BUMI?
what goes around comes around. boongin berita di bumi,
ketimpa
sial
lumpur
. - Original Message - From: up_trends To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, September 26, 2006 3:54 PM Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Re: masih layakkah BUMI? what goes around comes around. boongin berita di bumi, ketimpasial
lumpur enrg. minum deh tuh
Iya di dunia saham kalo di real world seh ada aja... :))
Time will tell about BUMI... but I agreed with Frederick about
it there is no problem at all about BUMI profitability... that
the most important I don't know what scenario, but I waited it
below 700...
Let see...
Redy
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From: up_trends
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, September 26, 2006 3:54 PM
Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Re: masih layakkah BUMI?
what goes around comes around. boongin berita di bumi,
ketimpa
sial
lumpur
keliatannya masih menarik dhe.. ie :Arutmin,
KPC
etc...
tapi manajemennya,,yakkhh.
- Original Message -
From: up_trends
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, September 26, 2006 3:54 PM
Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Re: masih layakkah
asal jgn nanti diganti wait dibawah 600 yah pak?:)
--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, redyherinantoalb
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Iya di dunia saham kalo di real world seh ada aja... :))
Time will tell about BUMI... but I agreed with Frederick about
it there is no problem at
-bandar] Re: masih layakkah BUMI?
what goes around comes around. boongin berita di bumi,
ketimpa
sial
lumpur enrg. minum deh tuh lumpur sampe kenyang.
--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Jamal Nasution
jamal@
wrote:
klo cp nya
terus terang saya gak tahan kalo diiris bandar 5%aja. itu saya bilang
bukan investing, suicide is more appropriate.
gmn tanggung jawab fund manager reksadana gimana bisa compete dgn
fund fund yg lain?
gini aja deh, kalo bumi bisa naik 70% saya yakin ada alternative
saham yg bisa naik 100% or
You buy Jaka, CNKO, RAJA, SUBA etc... that suicide in case of
BUMI I think it's because Lapindo and Bakrie negatif sentiment
when it's over... and it will then BUMI will be bright again...
it's the biggest and best best mining in Indonesia even the
world PTBA is peanut compare
semua fundamental bagus bahkan yg spt anda bilang lebih bagus dr
ptba. satu pertanyaan saya.
kok ptba harganya bisa lebih mahal yah? bahkan warrantnya harganya
dulu bisa lebih tinggi dr BUMI? harganya salah?kemahalan kah
warrantnya, apa investornya salah ? ato perusahaannya yg salah? ato
Iya juga seh he he he... memang PTBA lebih mahal dari harga
maupun PER nya, padahal perusahaannya belum tentu lebih bagus, so
saya gak mau masuk situ... cukup ikut dari 2000 (waktu masih murah)
ke 3rban (mahal booo, sell sell sell, besok kalau relnya jadi buy
buy buy) so, anda
ikutan yahehekalo saya belum punya BUMI dan hendak invest di BUMI, saya memilih entry point di IDR 950-980... sebelum nilai segitu saya lebih memilih TLKM atau ANTM, dengan P/E 5.37x dan net income H1 yang naikserta FENI III yang akan jalan lagi.. rasanya lebih menjanjikan.tapi
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