[ob] Oil drops on Greek debt woes

2010-03-22 Terurut Topik Metallic Bull
Oil drops on Greek debt woes - 10:51am EDT
http://money.cnn.com/2010/03/19/markets/oil/index.htm


[ob] Oil rises above $79 after US crude supply drop

2010-02-23 Terurut Topik Bumi T
http://finance.yahoo.com/news/Oil-rises-above-79-after-US-apf-2488903935.html?x=0sec=topStoriespos=mainasset=ccode=
 
http://www.abs-cbnnews.com/business/02/24/10/oil-climbs-firmer-us-energy-demand
 
http://www.btimes.com.my/Current_News/BTIMES/articles/20100223193041/Article/
 


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[ob] Oil

2010-01-18 Terurut Topik -Candra Wu
 Stocks Off For Week as Banks Lead Slump

*SP FUT 
   1135.10    +2.80 +0.25% 

*DOW FUT 
  10582.00    +19.00 +0.18% 

*NAS FUT 
   1865.00    +2.75 +0.15% 

*OIL             
 78.55    +0.55 +0.71% 

[ob] oil,.. pump and dump?

2010-01-06 Terurut Topik Dean Earwicker
[image: oil.PNG]

Ngeri banget chartnya.. itu yang ngambil pas break resist (82) bisa serangan
jantung sejenak tuh..
oil.PNG

Re: [ob] oil,.. pump and dump?

2010-01-06 Terurut Topik jkunci
Udah kena serangan ga sadar kalo harga balik ke atas. Nasib nasibcuannya 
buat berobat...
;((


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From: Dean Earwicker dean.earwic...@gmail.com
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 2010 23:41:38 
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [ob] oil,.. pump and dump?

[image: oil.PNG]

Ngeri banget chartnya.. itu yang ngambil pas break resist (82) bisa serangan
jantung sejenak tuh..

oil.PNG

Re: [ob] oil,.. pump and dump?

2010-01-06 Terurut Topik er1ck
ini disebutna gaya superman, sebelum terbang dia suka jongkok dulu, mirip
INTP kmrn sama KLBF  hari ini lah :-))

2010/1/6 Dean Earwicker dean.earwic...@gmail.com



 [image: oil.PNG]

 Ngeri banget chartnya.. itu yang ngambil pas break resist (82) bisa
 serangan jantung sejenak tuh..


 
oil.PNG

Re: [ob] oil,.. pump and dump?

2010-01-06 Terurut Topik Cougar Boy
memang sih lagi pump  dump.

tapi...

mau di pump sampai berapa ??

:D

dulu gold sebelum di dump juga di pump dulu dari 1100 ke 1226 sampai yang
posisi short mencret-mencret.

untuk oil..saya rasa paling sampai sampai kontrak expired tgl 20
paling cepat... tidak tahu...maklum kerjaan mafia besar :D

no worry lah

2010/1/6 Dean Earwicker dean.earwic...@gmail.com



 [image: oil.PNG]

 Ngeri banget chartnya.. itu yang ngambil pas break resist (82) bisa
 serangan jantung sejenak tuh..
  

oil.PNG

coal index Re: [ob] oil,.. pump and dump?

2010-01-06 Terurut Topik Cougar Boy
btw,,, ada yang punya coal index ??

koq sepertinya mencapai fibo retracement 61.8 dari penurunan tahun 2008
sampai bottom ?

betul tidak ??

cuman feeling aja lihat cara main sahamnya

2010/1/6 Dean Earwicker dean.earwic...@gmail.com



 [image: oil.PNG]

 Ngeri banget chartnya.. itu yang ngambil pas break resist (82) bisa
 serangan jantung sejenak tuh..
  

oil.PNG

Bls: coal index Re: [ob] oil,.. pump and dump?

2010-01-06 Terurut Topik dario kurniawan
pokoke kalo harga oil melebihi harga coal...saham coal loncat2an...dipeleh dipeleh dipeleh..Dario Amran--- Pada Kam, 7/1/10, Cougar Boy boysngi...@gmail.com menulis:
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btw,,, ada yang punya coal index ??

koq sepertinya mencapai fibo retracement 61.8 dari penurunan tahun 2008 sampai bottom ?

betul tidak ??

cuman feeling aja lihat cara main sahamnya
2010/1/6 Dean Earwicker dean.earwicker@ gmail.com

 



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[ob] OIL 80

2010-01-03 Terurut Topik andref_r
Lanjut



Re: [ob] Oil $76

2009-12-24 Terurut Topik mikey
Saya melihatnya dia mengembangkan network supaya bisnisnya bisa maju.
Dengan menjadi CEO PLN, network dia akan berkembang, kenalan baru di
pemerintahan akan membawakan profit di masa depan.
CEO paling lama 3-5 tahun, sesudah itu diganti lagi. Lumayan kan kalau bisa
dapet bisnis dari budget pemerintah.
Ini yang menurut saya yang dia cari

Sama seperti Sukrie  Kala yang dari businessman masuk ke politik demi
mengembangkan network bisnis di pemerintahan


2009/12/24 ND nyariduit...@gmail.com



 Untuk sekaliber DI bukan duit deh yang dicari.. Saya rasa nggak sebanding
 lah pendapatan CEO jawa pos group dengan CEO pln yang notabene bumn.
 Pendapatan yang saya maksud hanya dari gaji lho, bukan termasuk deviden
 saham dia.

 So, duit gaji CEO pln yang mungkin sekitar 100-200 jt/ bulan, ndak ngaruh
 buat dia.

 Yang lebih dia minati adalah sebenarnya aktualisasi diri, sebagaimana teori
 maslow, kebutuhan paling puncak.

 Saya rasa DI akan bersungguh2, apalagi reputasi dia jadi taruhannya.

 Salam,

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[ob] Oil $76

2009-12-23 Terurut Topik dario kurniawan
back to businesspantesan pom bensin shell ga ada revisi harga

http://finance.yahoo.com/news/Energy-futures-spike-pump-apf-4160213866.html?x=0sec=topStoriespos=2asset=ccode=

prediksi oil tahun 2010 masih remain under $90,,,selama harga oil masih dibawah 
harga coal, orang masih prefer kumpulin oil..nanti kl oil udah terbang baru 
coal digenjot lagi

Dario Amran


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Re: [ob] Oil $76

2009-12-23 Terurut Topik kokolato
Dirut pln yg baru, pak dahlan prefer menggunakan batubara sebagai pengganti 
BBM, tp entah kapan realisasinyaso bagi yg sabar, buy and hold ADRO, 
someday bakal nyaingin PTBA nya pak rei..he..he
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Date: Thu, 24 Dec 2009 00:15:17 
To: obrolan bandarobrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [ob] Oil $76

back to businesspantesan pom bensin shell ga ada revisi harga

http://finance.yahoo.com/news/Energy-futures-spike-pump-apf-4160213866.html?x=0sec=topStoriespos=2asset=ccode=

prediksi oil tahun 2010 masih remain under $90,,,selama harga oil masih dibawah 
harga coal, orang masih prefer kumpulin oil..nanti kl oil udah terbang baru 
coal digenjot lagi

Dario Amran


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Re: [ob] Oil $76

2009-12-23 Terurut Topik dario kurniawan
keknya pak DI udah janji kalo dalam setahun ga bisa dijalankan ide2nya dia 
bersedia mundur...

gimana kalo pak DI ga digaji dulu selama 12 bulan, ntar kalo berjalan baik dan 
sukses  baru bulan ke 13 gaji tahun pertamanya menjabat di bayar full tapi 
fasilitas ke sana kemari tetap diberikan hanya gaji aja ditunda 
dulu...hehehe

Dario Amran

--- Pada Kam, 24/12/09, kokol...@yahoo.co.id kokol...@yahoo.co.id menulis:

Dari: kokol...@yahoo.co.id kokol...@yahoo.co.id
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Dirut pln yg baru, pak dahlan prefer menggunakan batubara sebagai pengganti 
BBM, tp entah kapan realisasinya. ...so bagi yg sabar, buy and hold ADRO, 
someday bakal nyaingin PTBA nya pak rei..he..heSent from my BlackBerry® not 
powered by Bakrie GroupFrom:  dario kurniawan darioamran1976@ yahoo.co. id
Date: Thu, 24 Dec 2009 00:15:17 +0800 (SGT)To: obrolan bandarobrolan-bandar@ 
yahoogroups. comSubject: [ob] Oil $76

 




  
  
  back to business pantesan pom bensin shell ga ada revisi harga

http://finance. yahoo.com/ news/Energy- futures-spike- pump-apf- 4160213866. 
html?x=0sec=topStoriespos=2asset=ccode=

prediksi oil tahun 2010 masih remain under $90,,,selama harga oil masih dibawah 
harga coal, orang masih prefer kumpulin oil..nanti kl oil udah terbang baru 
coal digenjot lagi

Dario Amran

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Re: [ob] Oil $76

2009-12-23 Terurut Topik ND
Untuk sekaliber DI bukan duit deh yang dicari.. Saya rasa nggak sebanding lah 
pendapatan CEO jawa pos group dengan CEO pln yang notabene bumn. Pendapatan 
yang saya maksud hanya dari gaji lho, bukan termasuk deviden saham dia. 

So, duit gaji CEO pln yang mungkin sekitar 100-200 jt/ bulan, ndak ngaruh buat 
dia.

Yang lebih dia minati adalah sebenarnya aktualisasi diri, sebagaimana teori 
maslow, kebutuhan paling puncak.

Saya rasa DI akan bersungguh2, apalagi reputasi dia jadi taruhannya.

Salam,

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From: dario kurniawan darioamran1...@yahoo.co.id
Date: Thu, 24 Dec 2009 11:36:58 
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [ob] Oil $76

keknya pak DI udah janji kalo dalam setahun ga bisa dijalankan ide2nya dia 
bersedia mundur...

gimana kalo pak DI ga digaji dulu selama 12 bulan, ntar kalo berjalan baik dan 
sukses  baru bulan ke 13 gaji tahun pertamanya menjabat di bayar full tapi 
fasilitas ke sana kemari tetap diberikan hanya gaji aja ditunda 
dulu...hehehe

Dario Amran

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Dari: kokol...@yahoo.co.id kokol...@yahoo.co.id
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Dirut pln yg baru, pak dahlan prefer menggunakan batubara sebagai pengganti 
BBM, tp entah kapan realisasinya. ...so bagi yg sabar, buy and hold ADRO, 
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Date: Thu, 24 Dec 2009 00:15:17 +0800 (SGT)To: obrolan bandarobrolan-bandar@ 
yahoogroups. comSubject: [ob] Oil $76

 




  
  
  back to business pantesan pom bensin shell ga ada revisi harga

http://finance. yahoo.com/ news/Energy- futures-spike- pump-apf- 4160213866. 
html?x=0sec=topStoriespos=2asset=ccode=

prediksi oil tahun 2010 masih remain under $90,,,selama harga oil masih dibawah 
harga coal, orang masih prefer kumpulin oil..nanti kl oil udah terbang baru 
coal digenjot lagi

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[ob] OIL Naek...

2009-12-16 Terurut Topik EB™
Oil naik lagi ke 73, ada info apaan nih??

Regards,

EB™





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[ob] Oil may hit $100 per barrel 2009/2010

2009-11-03 Terurut Topik dunia ini indah


Oil may hit $100 per barrel 2009/2010


Goldman Sachs is calling for $85 oil by the end of 2009
T Boone Pickens is calling for $100 oil by Q4 2010
Morgan Stanley is calling for $105 oil by 2011 


-MoneyBlog- Oil prices may surge to $100 a barrel sometime in the next two 
quarters as the U.S. dollar weakens against the euro, Deutsche Bank energy 
economist Adam Sieminski said Friday.

”We think the dollar could weaken further to $1.60 against the EURO and it 
implies pushing oil prices to that threatening triple-digit level,” Sieminski 
told Reuters. A weaker dollar could mean “oil prices have even further to run,” 
but a rise to $100 a barrel may hurt an economic recovery, Deutsche Bank said 
in a research note. “We believe that $80 oil is not high enough to derail the 
global recovery, but our economics team would start looking for weaker overall 
consumption at $100 a barrel prices,” the note said. Oil prices rose to a 
one-year high of $82 earlier this week, after rallying 17 per cent since Oct. 
10. That rise coincided with a rise in global stock indices and a weakener 
dollar, which plunged to a 14-month low above $1.50 per euro this week

.Oil, priced in dollars, has been moving in an inverse price relation against 
the dollar. Global oil and product inventories remain well above average 
levels.”The ‘traditional fundamentals’ are improving, but only slowly,” he 
wrote.OPEC members could be put in a “difficult position” when they meet in 
December to consider whether to boost oil production and cool prices.”

OPEC may want to calm the market with more crude, but it’s not clear that 
refiners have an appetite to take it,” Sieminski wrote. Deutsche Bank has kept 
its 2010 oil price outlook at an average $65 a barrel, below today’s price near 
$81. Sieminski said the lower price outlook was in part due to still high 
global inventories. Global oil demand plunged last year amid a financial crisis 
and after oil prices spiked to a record above $147 in July, before falling to 
nearly a five-year low near $32 in December


I anticipate us being in triple digit territory for the benchmark crude---West 
Texas intermediate---by the end of the winter. And I anticipate gasoline prices 
by the Memorial Day weekend, which is usually the peak of the North American 
driving season, approaching $4 a gallon, or a buck-thirty, buck-forty a litre 
prices that we saw in Canada.
Oil filled radiator heaters help users to successfully warm any room in their 
house. The heating units are handy which makes them very good in winter months.






  


Re: [ob] Oil may hit $100 per barrel 2009/2010

2009-11-03 Terurut Topik Ferry

but why PTBA still bolot kiyeuuu?? huh!!

On 11/04/2009 12:55 PM, dunia ini indah wrote:




Oil may hit $100 per barrel 2009/2010

Goldman Sachs is calling for $85 oil by the end of 2009
T Boone Pickens is calling for $100 oil by Q4 2010
Morgan Stanley is calling for $105 oil by 2011

-MoneyBlog- Oil prices may surge to $100 a barrel sometime in the next 
two quarters as the U.S. dollar weakens against the euro, Deutsche 
Bank energy economist Adam Sieminski said Friday.


”We think the dollar could weaken further to $1.60 against the EURO 
and it implies pushing oil prices to that threatening triple-digit 
level,” Sieminski told Reuters. A weaker dollar could mean “oil prices 
have even further to run,” but a rise to $100 a barrel may hurt an 
economic recovery, Deutsche Bank said in a research note. “We believe 
that $80 oil is not high enough to derail the global recovery, but our 
economics team would start looking for weaker overall consumption at 
$100 a barrel prices,” the note said. Oil prices rose to a one-year 
high of $82 earlier this week, after rallying 17 per cent since Oct. 
10. That rise coincided with a rise in global stock indices and a 
weakener dollar, which plunged to a 14-month low above $1.50 per euro 
this week


.Oil, priced in dollars, has been moving in an inverse price relation 
against the dollar. Global oil and product inventories remain well 
above average levels.”The ‘traditional fundamentals’ are improving, 
but only slowly,” he wrote.OPEC members could be put in a “difficult 
position” when they meet in December to consider whether to boost oil 
production and cool prices.”


OPEC may want to calm the market with more crude, but it’s not clear 
that refiners have an appetite to take it,” Sieminski wrote. Deutsche 
Bank has kept its 2010 oil price outlook at an average $65 a barrel, 
below today’s price near $81. Sieminski said the lower price outlook 
was in part due to still high global inventories. Global oil demand 
plunged last year amid a financial crisis and after oil prices spiked 
to a record above $147 in July, before falling to nearly a five-year 
low near $32 in December


I anticipate us being in triple digit territory for the benchmark 
crude---West Texas intermediate---by the end of the winter. And I 
anticipate gasoline prices by the Memorial Day weekend, which is 
usually the peak of the North American driving season, approaching $4 
a gallon, or a buck-thirty, buck-forty a litre prices that we saw in 
Canada.
Oil filled radiator heaters help users to successfully warm any room 
in their house. The heating units are handy which makes them very good 
in winter months.







[ob] Oil may hit $100 per barrel 2009/2010

2009-10-30 Terurut Topik dunia ini indah


Oil may hit $100 per barrel 2009/2010


Goldman Sachs is calling for $85 oil by the end of 2009
T Boone Pickens is calling for $100 oil by Q4 2010
Morgan Stanley is calling for $105 oil by 2011 


-MoneyBlog- Oil prices may surge to $100 a barrel sometime in the next two 
quarters as the U.S. dollar weakens against the euro, Deutsche Bank energy 
economist Adam Sieminski said Friday.
”We think the dollar could weaken further to $1.60 against the euro and it 
implies pushing oil prices to that threatening triple-digit level,” Sieminski 
told Reuters. A weaker dollar could mean “oil prices have even further to run,” 
but a rise to $100 a barrel may hurt an economic recovery, Deutsche Bank said 
in a research note. “We believe that $80 oil is not high enough to derail the 
global recovery, but our economics team would start looking for weaker overall 
consumption at $100 a barrel prices,” the note said. Oil prices rose to a 
one-year high of $82 earlier this week, after rallying 17 per cent since Oct. 
10. That rise coincided with a rise in global stock indices and a weakener 
dollar, which plunged to a 14-month low above $1.50 per euro this week

.Oil, priced in dollars, has been moving in an inverse price relation against 
the dollar. Global oil and product inventories remain well above average 
levels.”The ‘traditional fundamentals’ are improving, but only slowly,” he 
wrote.OPEC members could be put in a “difficult position” when they meet in 
December to consider whether to boost oil production and cool prices.”

OPEC may want to calm the market with more crude, but it’s not clear that 
refiners have an appetite to take it,” Sieminski wrote. Deutsche Bank has kept 
its 2010 oil price outlook at an average $65 a barrel, below today’s price near 
$81. Sieminski said the lower price outlook was in part due to still high 
global inventories. Global oil demand plunged last year amid a financial crisis 
and after oil prices spiked to a record above $147 in July, before falling to 
nearly a five-year low near $32 in December


I anticipate us being in triple digit territory for the benchmark crude---West 
Texas intermediate---by the end of the winter. And I anticipate gasoline prices 
by the Memorial Day weekend, which is usually the peak of the North American 
driving season, approaching $4 a gallon, or a buck-thirty, buck-forty a litre 
prices that we saw in Canada.
Oil filled radiator heaters help users to successfully warm any room in their 
house. The heating units are handy which makes them very good in winter months.





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Re: [ob] Oil may hit $100 per barrel 2009/2010

2009-10-30 Terurut Topik billyfrelly
Kok may hit? Diatas 100 aja udah pernah kok last year.. Siap2 jualan deh klo 
gitchu.. :)
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Oil may hit $100 per barrel 2009/2010


Goldman Sachs is calling for $85 oil by the end of 2009
T Boone Pickens is calling for $100 oil by Q4 2010
Morgan Stanley is calling for $105 oil by 2011 


-MoneyBlog- Oil prices may surge to $100 a barrel sometime in the next two 
quarters as the U.S. dollar weakens against the euro, Deutsche Bank energy 
economist Adam Sieminski said Friday.
”We think the dollar could weaken further to $1.60 against the euro and it 
implies pushing oil prices to that threatening triple-digit level,” Sieminski 
told Reuters. A weaker dollar could mean “oil prices have even further to run,” 
but a rise to $100 a barrel may hurt an economic recovery, Deutsche Bank said 
in a research note. “We believe that $80 oil is not high enough to derail the 
global recovery, but our economics team would start looking for weaker overall 
consumption at $100 a barrel prices,” the note said. Oil prices rose to a 
one-year high of $82 earlier this week, after rallying 17 per cent since Oct. 
10. That rise coincided with a rise in global stock indices and a weakener 
dollar, which plunged to a 14-month low above $1.50 per euro this week

.Oil, priced in dollars, has been moving in an inverse price relation against 
the dollar. Global oil and product inventories remain well above average 
levels.”The ‘traditional fundamentals’ are improving, but only slowly,” he 
wrote.OPEC members could be put in a “difficult position” when they meet in 
December to consider whether to boost oil production and cool prices.”

OPEC may want to calm the market with more crude, but it’s not clear that 
refiners have an appetite to take it,” Sieminski wrote. Deutsche Bank has kept 
its 2010 oil price outlook at an average $65 a barrel, below today’s price near 
$81. Sieminski said the lower price outlook was in part due to still high 
global inventories. Global oil demand plunged last year amid a financial crisis 
and after oil prices spiked to a record above $147 in July, before falling to 
nearly a five-year low near $32 in December


I anticipate us being in triple digit territory for the benchmark crude---West 
Texas intermediate---by the end of the winter. And I anticipate gasoline prices 
by the Memorial Day weekend, which is usually the peak of the North American 
driving season, approaching $4 a gallon, or a buck-thirty, buck-forty a litre 
prices that we saw in Canada.
Oil filled radiator heaters help users to successfully warm any room in their 
house. The heating units are handy which makes them very good in winter months.





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US 200 / barrel ~ Re: [ob] Oil may hit $100 per barrel 2009/2010

2009-10-30 Terurut Topik T Halim

Peak oil:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peak_oil
4 reason why:
1. Depleted reserve (see the chart above)
2. Demand soaring
3. Exploration is less
4. Many oil producing well already under invested.

Consensus among oil indsutrialist soon oil reach US$ 200..

Effect to us in Indonesia? See comment on Detik recently: with constant US$ 
80/barrel our forex will be depleted, subsidy will reach new high..
Grim? Yes..





Oil may hit $100 per barrel 2009/2010



Goldman Sachs is calling for $85 oil by the end of 2009
T Boone Pickens is calling for $100 oil by Q4 2010
Morgan Stanley is calling for $105 oil by 2011 


-MoneyBlog- Oil prices may surge to $100 a barrel sometime in the next two 
quarters as the U.S. dollar weakens against the euro, Deutsche Bank energy 
economist Adam Sieminski said Friday.
”We think the dollar could weaken further to $1.60 against the euro and it 
implies pushing oil prices to that threatening triple-digit level,” Sieminski 
told Reuters. A weaker dollar could mean “oil prices have even further to run,” 
but a rise to $100 a barrel may hurt an economic recovery, Deutsche Bank said 
in a research note. “We believe that $80 oil is not high enough to derail the 
global recovery, but our economics team would start looking for weaker overall 
consumption at $100 a barrel prices,” the note said. Oil prices rose to a 
one-year high of $82 earlier this week, after rallying 17 per cent since Oct. 
10. That rise coincided with a rise in global stock indices and a weakener 
dollar, which plunged to a 14-month low above $1.50 per euro this week

.Oil, priced in dollars, has been moving in an inverse price relation against 
the dollar. Global oil and product inventories remain well above average 
levels.”The ‘traditional fundamentals’ are improving, but only slowly,” he 
wrote.OPEC members could be put in a “difficult position” when they meet in 
December to consider whether to boost oil production and cool prices.”

OPEC may want to calm the market with more crude, but it’s not clear that 
refiners have an appetite to take it,” Sieminski wrote. Deutsche Bank has kept 
its 2010 oil price outlook at an average $65 a barrel, below today’s price near 
$81. Sieminski said the lower price outlook was in part due to still high 
global inventories. Global oil demand plunged last year amid a financial crisis 
and after oil prices spiked to a record above $147 in July, before falling to 
nearly a five-year low near $32 in December


I anticipate us being in triple digit territory for the benchmark crude---West 
Texas intermediate---by the end of the winter. And I anticipate gasoline prices 
by the Memorial Day weekend, which is usually the peak of the North American 
driving season, approaching $4 a gallon, or a buck-thirty, buck-forty a litre 
prices that we saw in Canada.
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[ob] OIL 81 !!! BUMI butuh restu dari sapa lagi nih buat terbang bareng DEWA ????

2009-10-21 Terurut Topik emberuangbajubola
OIL udah..

embah,jendral,prof,el and bil ???





Re: [ob] OIL 81 !!! BUMI butuh restu dari sapa lagi nih buat terbang bareng DEWA ????

2009-10-21 Terurut Topik CUMI.JK (Buy, TP 5000)
naik karena banyak permintaan atau karena dollar yang makin gak berharga?

the value remain the same, the price may change.



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 OIL udah..

 embah,jendral,prof,el and bil ???





 

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[ob] OIL 80

2009-10-19 Terurut Topik andref_r
Oil 80 

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Re: [ob] OIL 80

2009-10-19 Terurut Topik ruzli . g7
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[ob] Oil prices near a new high for the year

2009-10-13 Terurut Topik boyz®
Crude prices close in on $75 per barrel because of the weakening US dollar

* On 11:12 am EDT, Tuesday October 13, 2009

NEW YORK (AP) -- Oil prices neared new highs for the year Tuesday as the
dollar slipped against other major currencies, demonstrating how much the
weakened U.S. currency can affect consumers globally.

The U.S. dollar index, where the U.S. currency is measured against other
major currencies, hit a 14-month low Tuesday. Because crude is bought and
sold in dollars, it essentially becomes cheaper for international investors
who have flooded into energy markets despite a big surplus of oil.

Energy experts expect the government will report Wednesday that crude
supplies are still growing, but that does not appear to be a deterrent for
many investors because the dollar is so weak.

Benchmark crude for November delivery gained 62 cents to $73.89 on the New
York Mercantile Exchange. At one point, prices reached $74.47, just short of
the yearly high of $75 reached on Aug. 25, when the driving season was still
in full swing.

Prices have now risen for four straight days and a barrel cost 4 percent
more than it did one week ago.

Natural gas, which is not sold only in dollars, tumbled 25.7 cents to $4.623
per 1,000 cubic feet on Nymex.

Crude has traded between $65 and $75 for months as traders look for signs of
an economic recovery.

On Tuesday, OPEC said China and other developing countries would push global
oil demand up slightly next year, but said any recovery would be slow and
weak.

The Organization of Petroleum Exporting Countries supplies over 35 percent
of the world's crude.

Given the recent improvement in the economic performance of OECD and China,
oil demand is expected to be better than earlier forecast, OPEC said,
referring to the Organization for Economic Cooperation and Development, a
rich nations club.

In other Nymex trading, heating oil rose 2 cents to $1.9149 a gallon, and
gasoline for November delivery gained 2.2 cents to $1.821 a gallon.

In London, Brent crude rose 51 cents to $71.87 on the ICE Futures exchange.

Associated Press Writers Alex Kennedy in Singapore, Pablo Gorondi in
Budapest, Hungary, and Tarek El-Tablawy in Cairo contributed to this report.


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[ob] OIL 75.07 +1.24%

2009-10-13 Terurut Topik boyz®
hari ini tembus 76 ga yah?


Salam,


RE: [ob] OIL 75.07 +1.24%

2009-10-13 Terurut Topik Ferry
Kalau tembus memang kenapa?? 

 

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hari ini tembus 76 ga yah?


Salam,





Re: [ob] OIL 75.07 +1.24%

2009-10-13 Terurut Topik charles_3983
kalo tembus berarti pertamax naik :))

--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Ferry ferry.wachj...@... wrote:

 Kalau tembus memang kenapa?? 
 
  
 
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 hari ini tembus 76 ga yah?
 
 
 Salam,





RE: [ob] OIL 75.07 +1.24%

2009-10-13 Terurut Topik JT
Kalo tembus Cakep !.., break Darvas Hi.., kalo ngga ya main lagi di 65-75… 

 

 oil.png

 

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hari ini tembus 76 ga yah?


Salam,






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RE: [ob] OIL 75.07 +1.24%

2009-10-13 Terurut Topik Aria Bela Nusa
Sptnya rounding bottom - ada yg gede, kecil - pattern utk melanjutkan
up-trend sebelonnya - setelah side-aways/flat dl beberapa lama ini


 Kalo tembus Cakep !.., break Darvas Hi.., kalo ngga ya main lagi di
 65-75…



  oil.png



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 hari ini tembus 76 ga yah?


 Salam,










[ob] Oil break 71

2009-10-06 Terurut Topik Peter Alimin

Posisi sekarang 71.12
  
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[ob] Oil Poised to Test Resistance in Mid-$70s: Technical Analysis

2009-10-01 Terurut Topik JT™

 Oct. 1 (Bloomberg) -- Crude oil is poised to enter a “bullish channel” and 
test resistance at the mid-$70-a-barrel level after rising the most in almost 
six months yesterday. 
 
 If prices close above $71.55 a barrel, oil is set to test resistance at 
$75.89, according to a technical analysis by Stephen Schork, president of 
consultant Schork Group Inc. in Villanova, Pennsylvania. 
 
 Crude oil for November delivery rose $3.90, or 5.9 percent, to settle at 
$70.61 a barrel yesterday on the New York Mercantile Exchange. 
 
 “If you are bearish you’ve got a problem right now,” said Schork. “If the 
channel holds we’ll get a re-test of the low to mid-$70s, which is where 
resistance has held since the summer.” 
 
 The November contract reached a high of $75.89 on Aug. 6, and stalled at 
levels above $75.50 four other times in August. 
 
 The bottom of the current range is $65.56 a barrel, said Schork. “If we go a 
couple days without any significant momentum above $71.55, I would look for a 
retracement back down again into the mid-$60s.” 
 
 To contact the reporter on this story: Aaron Clark in New York at 
aclar...@bloomberg.net 

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[ob] Oil Falls to a 1-Month Low on Larger-Than-Expected Supply Gains

2009-09-24 Terurut Topik inpestorpembelajar
 Oil udah  usd 66.

 Sept. 24 (Bloomberg) -- Crude oil fell to a one-month low after a government 
report of a larger-than-forecast gain in U.S. fuel supplies signaled that a 
glut is forming in the world’s biggest energy-consuming country. 
 
 U.S. gasoline stockpiles surged 5.41 million barrels last week, more than 10 
times what was forecast by analysts in a Bloomberg News survey. Inventories of 
distillate fuel, a category that includes heating oil and diesel, rose 2.96 
million barrels, almost double what was estimated. Crude-oil supplies also 
climbed in the week ended Sept. 18. 
 
 “We had three major stock builds and increases in the year-on-year surplus,” 
said Peter Beutel, president of trading adviser Cameron Hanover Inc. in New 
Canaan, Connecticut. “We are testing support and will have to see if we can 
break out of the recent range.” 
 
 Crude oil for November delivery fell $2.69, or 3.9 percent, to $66.28 a barrel 
at 10:27 a.m. on the New York Mercantile Exchange. Futures touched $65.79, the 
lowest level since Aug. 17. Prices have ranged between $65 and $75 since July 
31. 
 
 The drop in oil prices accelerated after the dollar climbed against the euro. 
A rising U.S. currency dims investor demand for commodities as a hedge against 
inflation. 
 
 The U.S. Energy Department report showed crude inventories rose 2.86 million 
barrels, to 335.6 million barrels, the biggest increase since the week ended 
July 24. Analysts had expected a 1.4 million-barrel decrease. The gain left 
stockpiles 9.1 percent above the five-year average. 
 
 ‘Extremely Bearish’ 
 
 “There’s no question that yesterday’s report was extremely bearish,” said Rick 
Mueller, a director of oil markets at Energy Security Analysis Inc. in 
Wakefield, Massachusetts. “It fell enough to break through some support lines, 
which got the attention of the technical guy.” 
 
 The November contract broke below the 100-day moving average of $69.53 
yesterday, a signal to so-called technical traders that prices will move lower. 
 
 Futures have gained 49 percent this year on speculation global fuel 
consumption may recover as economies emerge from the recession and as a 
weakening dollar encourages investors to purchase commodities as an inflation 
hedge. 
 
 “There comes a point when you have to pay attention to the fundamentals,” 
Mueller said. “‘There has been a lot of talk about green shoots, but we are 
still shedding jobs and oil demand is still going to drop by 2 million barrels 
this year.” 
 
 Global oil consumption will drop 1.9 million barrels a day to 84.4 million 
this year, according to an International Energy Agency report released on Sept. 
10. 
 
 Brent crude for November settlement dropped $2.55, or 3.8 percent, to $65.44 a 
barrel on the London-based ICE Futures Europe exchange. The contract touched 
$64.97, the lowest since July 17. 
 
 To contact the reporter on this story: Mark Shenk in New York at 
mshe...@bloomberg.net . 

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[ob] Oil Options Hit Highs as Verleger Predicts 44% Plunge

2009-09-21 Terurut Topik dunia ini indah


Oil Options Hit Highs as Verleger Predicts 44% Plunge


Published: 21 Sep 2009


(BloombergTV) -- Oil traders are paying more than ever in the options market to 
protect against a plunge in crude prices. 

The gap between prices of options betting on a decline and those that would 
profit from a rise in oil widened to a record 10 percentage points, according 
to five years of data compiled by Banc of America Securities-Merrill Lynch. 
Crude stockpiles in the U.S. are 14 percent larger than a year ago and OPEC is 
pumping 600,000 barrels a day more than the world needs, according to the 
International Energy Agency. 

While the recovery from the first global recession since World War II pushed 
oil up 62 percent this year to $72.04 a barrel in New York, growth alone isn’t 
likely to erode the glut by the end of next year because production exceeds 
demand, data from the Paris-based IEA shows. A drop in prices would penalize 
companies from Exxon Mobil Corp. to BP Plc and exporters Russia and Saudi 
Arabia. 

“If ever there was going to be a retreat below $60 a barrel, it is now,” 
Stephen Schork, president of consultant Schork Group Inc. in Villanova, 
Pennsylvania, said in a telephone interview. “It was a very weak summer. We 
came out with more gasoline than we started.” 

Right to Sell 

Options granting the right to sell, or put, oil in December below current 
prices have a so-called implied volatility of 54.3 percent, compared with 43.3 
percent for the equivalent options to buy, or call, data from the New York 
Mercantile Exchange show. 

The premium for December and other put options shows “the market is worried,” 
said Harry Tchilinguirian, a senior oil analyst at BNP Paribas SA in London. 
“If puts are pricing higher than calls, we are looking at a situation where the 
market is more averse to the downside and is looking for more compensation” for 
the option, he said. 

Demand for puts may be caused by speculators betting on lower prices or by 
producers hedging against a decline in the value of their oil, Tchilinguirian 
said. 

Oil inventories totaled about 2.8 billion barrels at the end of July within the 
30 nations of the Organization for Economic Cooperation and Development, 
according to the IEA. The total is equal to 62 days of demand, and 4.6 percent 
more than the same time last year. 

Brimming Stockpiles 

Supplies are brimming on both sides of the Atlantic. U.S. distillate fuel 
inventories, which include heating oil and jet fuel, are the highest since 1983 
at 167.8 million barrels, according to the Energy Department. U.S. gasoline 
supplies are 2.2 percent greater than they were in late May, the start of the 
peak-demand summer driving season, at 207.7 million barrels. 

Gasoil stockpiles, the European equivalent of heating oil, near Europe’s 
refining hub of Rotterdam reached a record 3.03 million tons (23 million 
barrels) on Sept. 10, according to PJK International BV of Oosterhout, the 
Netherlands. 

More than 60 million barrels of fuel is stored on tankers offshore, according 
to the IEA. 

“There’s all this heating oil with no place to go,” Philip Verleger, a 
professor at the University of Calgary and head of consultant PKVerleger LLC, 
said in a phone interview. “I’m fairly certain we’ll see prices in the $30s 
this year.”





  


[ob] Oil Rebound

2009-09-08 Terurut Topik Febry Hariyannugraha
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[ob] OIL

2009-09-08 Terurut Topik kobayashi mitsukuni
NEWS
Minyak Melonjak Jelang Pertemuan OPEC
Rabu, 9 September 2009 03:34 WIB | Ekonomi  Bisnis | Bisnis | Dibaca 217 kali
London (ANTARA News/AFP) - Harga minyak kembali melonjak di atas 70 dolar AS
pada Selasa, menjelang pertemuan tentang produksi OPEC di tengah membaiknya
sentimen investor tentang prospek pemulihan ekonomi global, kata para analis.

Komentar oleh tokoh minyak Arab Saudi bahwa pasar minyak mentah sangat stabil
dan sehat juga terlihat memberikan dukungan untuk harga, mereka menambahkan.

Kontrak berjangka utama New York, minyak mentah light sweet untuk pengiriman
Oktober, rally 2,02 dolar AS menjadi 70,04 dolar AS per barel.

Minyak mentah Brent North Sea untuk penyerahan Oktober naik 2,09 dolar AS
menjadi 68,62 dolar AS.

Harga minyak mentah telah terdorong kembali ... di tengah meningkatnya
ekspektasi ... bahwa pertemuan OPEC minggu ini akan melihat lebih banyak
penekanan pada kepatuhan dengan pengetatan

kuota saat ini, kata Nimit Khamar, analis Sucden Financial Research.

Anggota terkemuka OPEC Arab Saudi memberikan pandangan optimis pasar minyak pada
Selasa, karena para menteri berkumpul di Wina mencari untuk mempertahankan
aliran minyak mentah tetap di tengah pembicaraan hati-hati tentang pemulihan
ekonomi.

Pasar sangat stabil dan sehat, Menteri Perminyakan Arab Saudi Ali al-Naimi
mengatakan setibanya di ibukota Austria untuk rapat

Organisasi Negara Pengekspor Minyak (OPEC) pada Rabu.

Dia mengulangi pandangan dari beberapa rekan-rekan menteri OPEC, mengurangi
lebih lanjut kuota produksi minyak tidak mungkin dan mengatakan pertemuan akan
fokus pada menegakkan kepatuhan terhadap pengurangan yang ada sebaik mungkin.

Naimi mengatakan kepada wartawan: Pasar berada dalam bentuk sangat bagus:
sangat baik yang disediakan, menambahkan bahwa harga saat ini adalah baik
untuk semua orang, konsumen (dan) produser.

Sementara itu, menteri minyak baru anggota penting OPEC, Iran mengatakan pasar
menjadi lebih baik dan tidak ada perlunya untuk memangkas produksi minyak
mentah kartel.

Saya pikir bahwa situasi saat ini (pasar minyak) semakin membaik daripada
sebelumnya, kata menteri, Masoud Mirkazemi, kepada wartawan ketika ia tiba di
Wina.

Anggota OPEC, yang memompa 40 persen minyak dunia, setuju pada akhir 2008 untuk
menghapus sebesar 4,2 juta barel per hari dari produksi di pasar, karena
berusaha menopang harga yang jatuh.

Sebuah penurunan kejam ekonomi global telah melemahkan permintaan energi,
menyeret harga minyak mentah dari rekor tertinggi di atas 147 dolar AS pada Juli
2008 menjadi 32,40 dolar AS pada Desember. Mereka telah pulih menjadi mengapung
di sekitar 70 dolar AS karena perekonomian pulih.

Dengan naiknya pertumbuhan di hampir setiap negara, memperkuat proses atau
umpan balik positif `sedang berkembang, analis dari Bank of America-Merrill
Lynch mengatakan dalam sebuah laporannya.

Pertumbuhan di negara masing-masing merangsang pertumbuhan global, melalui
perdagangan dan keyakinan saluran. Hal ini menambah keyakinan kita dalam
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[ob] Oil 70usd

2009-08-31 Terurut Topik tommy_yap99
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[ob] Oil climbs in Asia after big US crude drawdown - Oil climbs higher in Asia after US crude inventories fall ...

2009-08-20 Terurut Topik Aria Bela Nusa
Top Stories
Oil climbs in Asia after big US crude drawdown- AP
Oil prices climbed higher Thursday in Asia after jumping the previous day
on an unexpected fall in US crude inventories.



Re: [ob] Oil climbs in Asia after big US crude drawdown - Oil climbs higher in Asia after US crude inventories fall ...

2009-08-20 Terurut Topik Ucok B
just my 2 centssetahuku inventories per oil an itu 2 bulan sebelum
dan harga kontrak beli juga biasanya baru applied 2 bulan
sesudahnya...so asumsiku memang ada interest tertentu utk mengatakan
uexpected fall in inventories. better stick to Proff JT chart
kemarin utk reference..

cmiiw

salam hormat

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 Oil climbs in Asia after big US crude drawdown- AP
 Oil prices climbed higher Thursday in Asia after jumping the previous day
 on an unexpected fall in US crude inventories.

 


[ob] Oil 71,3 (+2.66)

2009-08-19 Terurut Topik I_R_G_7_I
http://finance.yahoo.com/q?s=CLU09.NYM


Re: [ob] Oil 71,3 (+2.66)

2009-08-19 Terurut Topik Bambang Kansah
Wow! Selamet deh yg tadi udah pada belanja commodity, besok pasti pada
cuan gede nih, duh asyiknya...  Ngak kuku deh.. he.. he..

2009/8/19, I_R_G_7_I ruzli...@gmail.com:
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[ob] OIL+ DOW+, kenapa IHSG ga +?

2009-08-19 Terurut Topik Charles Atmaja
Senior2 OB... saya mau tanya donk... sori kalo agak bego pertanyaannya ya 
hehehe

Apa begitu eratnya IDX dengan bursa Shanghai sehingga naiknya harga minyak dan 
DOW tidak memberikan efek?

Padahal kalo diliat harga minyak naik... hari ini juga naik.. ga tau deh 
bertahan ampe pagi ga.. DOW juga plus...

seharusnya bukannya memberikan sentimen positif ke IDX... 
Hari ini OIL naik bersamaan dengan dolar naik...
Kalau Dolar menguat terhadap Rp bukannya justru lebih menguntungkan bagi 
perusahaan yang melakukan ekspor? lagiannya dolar di sekitar 10xxx masih 
dianggap level ideal untuk ekspor kan?

Mohon petunjuknya... hehehe


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Re: [ob] OIL+ DOW+, kenapa IHSG ga +?

2009-08-19 Terurut Topik effendy ang
mas Charles. gak usah bingung bingung.kalau market turun, ya di short.
kalau market naik, ya di long.
RIDE THE WAVE.

berita apapun di market bisa dijadikan ALASAN utk mengubah sentimen market.


2009/8/19 Charles Atmaja charles_3...@yahoo.com



 Senior2 OB... saya mau tanya donk... sori kalo agak bego pertanyaannya
 ya... hehehe

 Apa begitu eratnya IDX dengan bursa Shanghai sehingga naiknya harga minyak
 dan DOW tidak memberikan efek?

 Padahal kalo diliat harga minyak naik... hari ini juga naik.. ga tau deh
 bertahan ampe pagi ga.. DOW juga plus...

 seharusnya bukannya memberikan sentimen positif ke IDX..
 Hari ini OIL naik bersamaan dengan dolar naik...
 Kalau Dolar menguat terhadap Rp bukannya justru lebih menguntungkan bagi
 perusahaan yang melakukan ekspor? lagiannya dolar di sekitar 10xxx masih
 dianggap level ideal untuk ekspor kan?

 Mohon petunjuknya... hehehe

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[ob] oil and metal

2009-08-19 Terurut Topik arie dj
OIL
Kemarin oil pop up (naik tajam) krn data inventory oil minyak turun 8 jt
barrel, bensin turun 700ribu barrel, utilisasi kilang minyak naik 0.5%
jadi 85.5% (max 90 -93%). Yah supprise data nih, selama 1 bulan lebih
data mingguan oil inventory naik. Apa yang terjadi? 

Data kegiatan manufacturing di hari jumat ada kenaikan aktifitas pabrik
amerik. (naik 0..5% menjadi 68.5%). Kenaikan ini mungkin memicu aktifitas
transport, pengiriman barang. Amerik memakai truck dan kerata api dalam
jaringan network transport mereka. Kereta api amerik masih diesel...
Jadi ada kemajuan nih amerik. 

METAL
Oil naik, support tembaga yg sempat terjun bebas 6,000 turun sampai
5,800 an akhirnya kembali. 
Nickel, ngak turun banyak kemarin. Memang sebelumnya nickel naik sampai
21000an kembali ke 19200. Kemarin nickel turun ke 18500 dan bertahan
antara 18800 - 18500. Pagi ini 19100. 

Nickel bertahan dan ada kemungkian menguat kembali kalo minyak dan
shanghai ngak turun.

China (shanghai index)
Kemarin hedge fund yg jual habis2an di umumkan. Tgl 28 Juli mulai nya.
Hedge fund ini di puji (sambil di kritik). Sejak 28 july Shanghai index
turun 20%. Padahal investor nya 50% retailer. Investornya ada lah ibu2
rumah tangga. Biasanya beli saham dengan feeling2 aja dan tidak melihat
ekonomi data. Adapun Cuma dari telinga ke telinga...(kayak indo nih)

HARI ini Shanghai naik. Shanghai naik, Asia naik, Indo naik... 


     DWBH  TRADER
(Dont Worry Be Happy)



  

[ob] Oil up (aman terkendali)

2009-08-18 Terurut Topik Candra Wu
DOW 
   9206.45    +71.11 +0.77%
NASDAQ 
   1951.22    +20.38 +1.05%
SP 500 
988.74    +9.01 +0.91%
*OIL   
 68.34    +1.59 +2.38%

Markets   12:16:33 PM ET

Re: [ob] Oil 67, ihsg setahun lalu -10%

2009-08-17 Terurut Topik Kidod25
Besok 50% jg gpp dah

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Re: [ob] Oil 67, ihsg setahun lalu -10%

2009-08-17 Terurut Topik Peter Alimin
2003 ama 2006 ada apa ya?
Maklum newbie ga ada data yg 2003..thx
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RE: [ob] Oil

2009-08-17 Terurut Topik Peter Alimin

Tropical Storm Bill became the first hurricane
of the 2009 Atlantic season Monday but remained far from any land, the
U.S. National Hurricane Center said.Bill's
sustained winds reached to nearly 75 miles per hour as it churned
through the Atlantic Ocean more than 1,160 miles east of the Lesser
Antilles islands of the Caribbean, the hurricane center said.Earlier Monday 
morning Tropical Storm Claudette moved ashore along the U.S. Gulf coast.RELATED 
LINKS
Current DateTime: 03:11:01 17 Aug 2009
LinksList Documentid: 3290Tropical Storms Near US Oil Rigs in GulfSchork 
Outlook: Bearish NatGas, Bullish OilCommodities: The Next Hot Trade?Oil Falls 
to 2-Week Low Below $66 on Gloomy DataClaudette,
which formed early Sunday morning, hit the coast near the eastern end
of Santa Rosa Island, just southeast of Fort Walton Beach, Florida, at
1:10 am New York time, the hurricane center said.The
six-month Atlantic hurricane season got off to a slow start with no
storms in the first 2-1/2 months but exploded this weekend as three
tropical storms formed in just over a day.Bill
is expected to strengthen, and forecasters now expect it to whip up
into a major Category 3 hurricane by Wednesday, with winds of more
than 110 mph. Some computer models suggested Bill could reach Category
4, with winds of more than 130 mph.Hurricanes of Category 3, 4 or 5 on the 
Saffir-Simpson intensity scale are the most destructive type.Bill is advancing 
quickly west-northwest near 22 mph and this is expected to continue for the 
next 24 to 48 hours.APTropical Storm Bill, August 16Strike the US Friday On
its most likely track, Bill would be well north of the northernmost
Caribbean islands, while heading toward the U.S. East Coast and
striking by Friday, forecasters said.Claudette
had swept through the Gulf of Mexico but bypassed the heaviest
concentration of U.S. energy platforms, which stretch along the coast
from Mobile Bay, Alabama, to Brownsville, Texas.The
Gulf is home to almost half of U.S. refinery capacity, a quarter of oil
production and 15 percent of natural gas output. Oil companies were
monitoring the storm but had not shut down production.Claudette
packed sustained winds of 50 miles per hour as it swept over the
Florida panhandle and is seen reaching southern Alabama, when it will
likely weaken to a tropical depression, the Hurricane Center said.Early
Monday, Tropical Storm Ana, which had faded to a tropical depression on
Sunday and was expected to weaken further, was moving quickly
west-northwest across the northeastern Caribbean sea.Ana is forecast to cross 
the coast of the Dominican Republic later Monday with maximum sustained winds 
near 35 mph.

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   Sampai 65 juga masih ok Pak.., no worry lah.., terlalu tinggi juga ngga 
bagus, will post the chart later..


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From:  TimurLaut 
Date: Sat, 15 Aug 2009 20:21:33 -0700 (PDT)
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.comobrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [ob] Oil

Saya nunggu survey (oil chart) dari prof JT aja. 
 tolong dong prof di harga brp support harga WTI. Itungan saya 67, dibawah 67 
baru worry.
Sent from my iPhone
On Aug 16, 2009, at 6:51, Candra Wu wu_can...@yahoo.com wrote:

 Harga Si Emas Hitam Merosot 4,27%

 Sabtu, 15 Agustus 2009 - 16:56 wib

 NEW YORK - Harga minyak mentah tercatat mengalami penurunan terbesar selama 
dua minggu terakhir. Hal ini terjadi setelah para konsumen merasa kurang 
percaya diri karena melihat laporan data yang menunjukkan kelemahan ekonomi.

 Harga minyak mentah jatuh ke level USD3,01 atau setara dengan 4,27 persen ke 
posisi USD67,51 per barel. Sedangkan minyak jenis London Brent harganya jatuh 
sebanyak USD1,07 sehingga berada di posisi USD72,41per barel.

 Dilanjutkannya, penurunan tersebut adalah yang terbesar sejak 29 Juli lalu. 
Yakni sesudah survei yang dilakukan oleh Universitas Michigan mengenai 
konsumen, dilaporkan bahwa konsumsi mengalami penurunan terendah di awal 
Agustus ini sejak Maret lalu. Hal ini terefleksi dari indeks Wall Street yang 
mengalami pelemahan pada akhir pekan ini.

 Turunnya harga minyak mentah tersebut, diikuti dengan imbas stok di pasar dan 
sesudah survei konsumen dilaporkan. Selain itu, konsumen percaya akan kejatuhan 
harga minyak pada awal bulan ini, kata Analis MF Global Research Tom Pawlicki 
di Chicago, seperti dikutip dari Reuters, Sabtu (15/8/2009).

 Selanjutnya, harga minyak diprediksi akan berlipat ganda pada musim dingin 
pada Desember menjadi lebih rendah yakni sekira USD33 per barel. Yakni karena 
kebutuhannya diperkirakan meningkat, sehingga optimisme pasar akan bangkit

Re: [ob] Oil

2009-08-16 Terurut Topik TimurLaut
Saya nunggu survey (oil chart) dari prof JT aja. 
 tolong dong prof di harga brp support harga WTI. Itungan saya 67, dibawah 67 
baru worry.

Sent from my iPhone

On Aug 16, 2009, at 6:51, Candra Wu wu_can...@yahoo.com wrote:

Harga Si Emas Hitam Merosot 4,27%

Sabtu, 15 Agustus 2009 - 16:56 wib

NEW YORK - Harga minyak mentah tercatat mengalami penurunan terbesar selama dua 
minggu terakhir. Hal ini terjadi setelah para konsumen merasa kurang percaya 
diri karena melihat laporan data yang menunjukkan kelemahan ekonomi.

Harga minyak mentah jatuh ke level USD3,01 atau setara dengan 4,27 persen ke 
posisi USD67,51 per barel. Sedangkan minyak jenis London Brent harganya jatuh 
sebanyak USD1,07 sehingga berada di posisi USD72,41per barel.

Dilanjutkannya, penurunan tersebut adalah yang terbesar sejak 29 Juli lalu. 
Yakni sesudah survei yang dilakukan oleh Universitas Michigan mengenai 
konsumen, dilaporkan bahwa konsumsi mengalami penurunan terendah di awal 
Agustus ini sejak Maret lalu. Hal ini terefleksi dari indeks Wall Street yang 
mengalami pelemahan pada akhir pekan ini.

Turunnya harga minyak mentah tersebut, diikuti dengan imbas stok di pasar dan 
sesudah survei konsumen dilaporkan. Selain itu, konsumen percaya akan kejatuhan 
harga minyak pada awal bulan ini, kata Analis MF Global Research Tom Pawlicki 
di Chicago, seperti dikutip dari Reuters, Sabtu (15/8/2009).

Selanjutnya, harga minyak diprediksi akan berlipat ganda pada musim dingin pada 
Desember menjadi lebih rendah yakni sekira USD33 per barel. Yakni karena 
kebutuhannya diperkirakan meningkat, sehingga optimisme pasar akan bangkit.





  

Re: [ob] Oil

2009-08-16 Terurut Topik tommy_yap99
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Date: Sun, 16 Aug 2009 11:13:55 
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Subject: Re: [ob] Oil


*Selanjutnya, harga minyak diprediksi akan berlipat ganda pada musim dingin
pada Desember menjadi lebih rendah (?) yakni sekitar USD33 per barel. Yakni
karena kebutuhannya diperkirakan meningkat, sehingga optimisme pasar akan
bangkit.**
*
*Binun...gak sinkron nih?
*
2009/8/16 Candra Wu wu_can...@yahoo.com



 Harga Si Emas Hitam Merosot 4,27%

 Sabtu, 15 Agustus 2009 - 16:56 wib

 NEW YORK - Harga minyak mentah tercatat mengalami penurunan terbesar selama
 dua minggu terakhir. Hal ini terjadi setelah para konsumen merasa kurang
 percaya diri karena melihat laporan data yang menunjukkan kelemahan ekonomi.


 Harga minyak mentah jatuh ke level USD3,01 atau setara dengan 4,27 persen
 ke posisi USD67,51 per barel. Sedangkan minyak jenis London Brent harganya
 jatuh sebanyak USD1,07 sehingga berada di posisi USD72,41per barel.

 Dilanjutkannya, penurunan tersebut adalah yang terbesar sejak 29 Juli lalu.
 Yakni sesudah survei yang dilakukan oleh Universitas Michigan mengenai
 konsumen, dilaporkan bahwa konsumsi mengalami penurunan terendah di awal
 Agustus ini sejak Maret lalu. Hal ini terefleksi dari indeks Wall Street
 yang mengalami pelemahan pada akhir pekan ini.

 Turunnya harga minyak mentah tersebut, diikuti dengan imbas stok di pasar
 dan sesudah survei konsumen dilaporkan. Selain itu, konsumen percaya akan
 kejatuhan harga minyak pada awal bulan ini, kata Analis MF Global Research
 Tom Pawlicki di Chicago, seperti dikutip dari Reuters, Sabtu (15/8/2009).

 Selanjutnya, harga minyak diprediksi akan berlipat ganda pada musim dingin
 pada Desember menjadi lebih rendah yakni sekira USD33 per barel. Yakni
 karena kebutuhannya diperkirakan meningkat, sehingga optimisme pasar akan
 bangkit.
  




Re: [ob] Oil

2009-08-16 Terurut Topik Candra Wu
Pak, bukanya banyak yang dapat gelar CFA: Cuma Feeling Analys. 

Siapa yang kemarin ajarin tuh singkatannya:)

Just kidding

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From: Rei highwaysta...@gmail.com

Date: Sun, 16 Aug 2009 12:11:42 
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [ob] Oil


Nah itu dia yg saya bingung...oil sih pasti akan 100 lagi sooner or later.Gak
pake data, cuma feeling nekad hahaha

2009/8/16 Peter Alimin milis...@live.com

 Mgkn kurang angka 1 didepannya pak rei...
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 Date: Sun, 16 Aug 2009 04:13:55
 To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
 Subject: Re: [ob] Oil






 Selanjutnya, harga minyak diprediksi akan berlipat ganda pada musim dingin
 pada Desember menjadi lebih rendah (?) yakni sekitar USD33 per barel. Yakni
 karena kebutuhannya diperkirakan meningkat, sehingga optimisme pasar akan
 bangkit.


 Binun...gak sinkron nih?


 2009/8/16 Candra Wu wu_can...@yahoo. mailto:wu_can...@yahoo.com com





 Harga Si Emas Hitam Merosot 4,27%

  Sabtu, 15 Agustus 2009 - 16:56 wib

  NEW YORK - Harga minyak mentah tercatat mengalami penurunan terbesar
 selama dua minggu terakhir. Hal ini terjadi setelah para konsumen merasa
 kurang percaya diri karena melihat laporan data yang menunjukkan kelemahan
 ekonomi.

  Harga minyak mentah jatuh ke level USD3,01 atau setara dengan 4,27 persen
 ke posisi USD67,51 per barel. Sedangkan minyak jenis London Brent harganya
 jatuh sebanyak USD1,07 sehingga berada di posisi USD72,41per barel.

  Dilanjutkannya, penurunan tersebut adalah yang terbesar sejak 29 Juli
 lalu. Yakni sesudah survei yang dilakukan oleh Universitas Michigan mengenai
 konsumen, dilaporkan bahwa konsumsi mengalami penurunan terendah di awal
 Agustus ini sejak Maret lalu. Hal ini terefleksi dari indeks Wall Street
 yang mengalami pelemahan pada akhir pekan ini.

  Turunnya harga minyak mentah tersebut, diikuti dengan imbas stok di pasar
 dan sesudah survei konsumen dilaporkan. Selain itu, konsumen percaya akan
 kejatuhan harga minyak pada awal bulan ini, kata Analis MF Global Research
 Tom Pawlicki di Chicago, seperti dikutip dari Reuters, Sabtu (15/8/2009).

  Selanjutnya, harga minyak diprediksi akan berlipat ganda pada musim dingin
 pada Desember menjadi lebih rendah yakni sekira USD33 per barel. Yakni
 karena kebutuhannya diperkirakan meningkat, sehingga optimisme pasar akan
 bangkit.





 

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Re: [ob] Oil

2009-08-16 Terurut Topik Candra Wu
Semua analis boleh ngomong oil mau berapapun (berita di bawah) tapi belum tentu 
itu benar. e.g: banyak analis bilang bahwa rupiah akan ke 8500 dan ada jg 
analis bilang 11000 tapi mana yg benar belum tahu. Intinya No body knows la.

Kalo tahu kita rame2 ke Last Vegas nyari duit dan gak perlu nyopet lg di bei.

√ ato bentul, hehe..



-Original Message-
From: Candra Wu wu_can...@yahoo.com

Date: Sat, 15 Aug 2009 23:51:04 
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [ob] Oil


Harga Si Emas Hitam Merosot 4,27%

Sabtu, 15 Agustus 2009 - 16:56 wib

NEW YORK - Harga minyak mentah tercatat mengalami penurunan terbesar selama dua 
minggu terakhir. Hal ini terjadi setelah para konsumen merasa kurang percaya 
diri karena melihat laporan data yang menunjukkan kelemahan ekonomi.

Harga minyak mentah jatuh ke level USD3,01 atau setara dengan 4,27 persen ke 
posisi USD67,51 per barel. Sedangkan minyak jenis London Brent harganya jatuh 
sebanyak USD1,07 sehingga berada di posisi USD72,41per barel.

Dilanjutkannya, penurunan tersebut adalah yang terbesar sejak 29 Juli lalu. 
Yakni sesudah survei yang dilakukan oleh Universitas Michigan mengenai 
konsumen, dilaporkan bahwa konsumsi mengalami penurunan terendah di awal 
Agustus ini sejak Maret lalu. Hal ini terefleksi dari indeks Wall Street yang 
mengalami pelemahan pada akhir pekan ini.

Turunnya harga minyak mentah tersebut, diikuti dengan imbas stok di pasar dan 
sesudah survei konsumen dilaporkan. Selain itu, konsumen percaya akan kejatuhan 
harga minyak pada awal bulan ini, kata Analis MF Global Research Tom Pawlicki 
di Chicago, seperti dikutip dari Reuters, Sabtu (15/8/2009).

Selanjutnya, harga minyak diprediksi akan berlipat ganda pada musim dingin pada 
Desember menjadi lebih rendah yakni sekira USD33 per barel. Yakni karena 
kebutuhannya diperkirakan meningkat, sehingga optimisme pasar akan bangkit. 

Re: [ob] Oil

2009-08-16 Terurut Topik t_bumi
--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Jacob Oen oenja...@... wrote:

 Pak t_bumi,
 
 Selain BUMI, INKP dan TKIM, emiten mana lagi yang memiliki hutang banyak?
 
 What about INDF, BLTA ?
  
 Sip : tbumi

Setiap emiten pasti ada hutang, yg penting apakah roda bisnisnya

bisa berputar lancar utk membayar hutang hutang tsb.

Utk mendapatkan bahan kayu dari hutan disaat ini sudah tak

segampang dulu lagi, tentunya ini akan sangat memukul produsen

(bubur) kertas seperti INKP dan TKIM. Dgn terganggunya produksi

tsb tentunya akan terganggu juga penjualan eksportnya dan akhirnya

akan berakibat ke pembayaran hutang hutangnya.

BLTA boleh dikatakan roda bisnisnya masih bagus dimana 

sebagian kapal tankernya mengangkut CPO dari Malaysia. Emiten

ini juga sdh listing di Singapore.

Dulunya INDF adalah saham selalu tertidur pulas, hanya produknya

di saat itu tak banyak saingannya khususnya mie instant.

Disaat ini persaingan baru di mie instant sangat banyak, maka itu

INDF cepat menambah bisnisnya di sektor lain yaitu CPO dimana

INDF mengakuisisi LSIP. Setelah masuk ke LSIP, maka roda bisnis

INDF sdh membaik dan sahamnya INDF boleh dikatakan ikut naik juga.  

Gudang Garam juga sdh masuk ke lahan kelapa sawit, boleh dikatakan

CPO mempunyai prospek bisnis yang sangat bagus.

 



Re: [ob] Oil

2009-08-16 Terurut Topik giek_doang
Wewrupanya rokok Jend Artomoro dicampur CPO tho,,Pantesan
aromanya sedap  rasanya gurih


--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, t_bumi t_b...@... wrote:

 --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Jacob Oen oenjacob@ wrote:
 
  Pak t_bumi,
  
  Selain BUMI, INKP dan TKIM, emiten mana lagi yang memiliki hutang banyak?
  
  What about INDF, BLTA ?
   
  Sip : tbumi
 
 Setiap emiten pasti ada hutang, yg penting apakah roda bisnisnya
 
 bisa berputar lancar utk membayar hutang hutang tsb.
 
 Utk mendapatkan bahan kayu dari hutan disaat ini sudah tak
 
 segampang dulu lagi, tentunya ini akan sangat memukul produsen
 
 (bubur) kertas seperti INKP dan TKIM. Dgn terganggunya produksi
 
 tsb tentunya akan terganggu juga penjualan eksportnya dan akhirnya
 
 akan berakibat ke pembayaran hutang hutangnya.
 
 BLTA boleh dikatakan roda bisnisnya masih bagus dimana 
 
 sebagian kapal tankernya mengangkut CPO dari Malaysia. Emiten
 
 ini juga sdh listing di Singapore.
 
 Dulunya INDF adalah saham selalu tertidur pulas, hanya produknya
 
 di saat itu tak banyak saingannya khususnya mie instant.
 
 Disaat ini persaingan baru di mie instant sangat banyak, maka itu
 
 INDF cepat menambah bisnisnya di sektor lain yaitu CPO dimana
 
 INDF mengakuisisi LSIP. Setelah masuk ke LSIP, maka roda bisnis
 
 INDF sdh membaik dan sahamnya INDF boleh dikatakan ikut naik juga.  
 
 Gudang Garam juga sdh masuk ke lahan kelapa sawit, boleh dikatakan
 
 CPO mempunyai prospek bisnis yang sangat bagus.





Re: [ob] Oil

2009-08-16 Terurut Topik Jacob Oen
Absolutely correct!

Thanks for the info pak t_bumi.

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Date: Sun, 16 Aug 2009 06:52:28 
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [ob] Oil


--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Jacob Oen oenja...@... wrote:

 Pak t_bumi,
 
 Selain BUMI, INKP dan TKIM, emiten mana lagi yang memiliki hutang banyak?
 
 What about INDF, BLTA ?
  
 Sip : tbumi

Setiap emiten pasti ada hutang, yg penting apakah roda bisnisnya

bisa berputar lancar utk membayar hutang hutang tsb.

Utk mendapatkan bahan kayu dari hutan disaat ini sudah tak

segampang dulu lagi, tentunya ini akan sangat memukul produsen

(bubur) kertas seperti INKP dan TKIM. Dgn terganggunya produksi

tsb tentunya akan terganggu juga penjualan eksportnya dan akhirnya

akan berakibat ke pembayaran hutang hutangnya.

BLTA boleh dikatakan roda bisnisnya masih bagus dimana 

sebagian kapal tankernya mengangkut CPO dari Malaysia. Emiten

ini juga sdh listing di Singapore.

Dulunya INDF adalah saham selalu tertidur pulas, hanya produknya

di saat itu tak banyak saingannya khususnya mie instant.

Disaat ini persaingan baru di mie instant sangat banyak, maka itu

INDF cepat menambah bisnisnya di sektor lain yaitu CPO dimana

INDF mengakuisisi LSIP. Setelah masuk ke LSIP, maka roda bisnis

INDF sdh membaik dan sahamnya INDF boleh dikatakan ikut naik juga.  

Gudang Garam juga sdh masuk ke lahan kelapa sawit, boleh dikatakan

CPO mempunyai prospek bisnis yang sangat bagus.

 




Re: [ob] Oil

2009-08-16 Terurut Topik Albertus Setiawan
Newbie bole tanya?
Apa hubungan pabrik kertas dengan oil?
Apakah dalam produksi kertas membutuhkan oil jumlah besar?
Thx

On 8/16/09, t_bumi t_b...@yahoo.co.id wrote:
 --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Peter Alimin  milis...@... wrote:

 Sip : tbumi

 INKP dan TKIM hutangnya banyaaak !



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Re: [ob] Oil

2009-08-16 Terurut Topik Albertus Setiawan
Oo begitu.. Makasi suhu. Setidaknya newbie dapet pencerahan.
Apakah saat ini TKIM dan INKP tidak mengikuti jejak GGRM dan INDF utk
cari peluang di bisnis lain?


On 8/16/09, t_bumi t_b...@yahoo.co.id wrote:
 --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Jacob Oen oenja...@... wrote:

 Pak t_bumi,

 Selain BUMI, INKP dan TKIM, emiten mana lagi yang memiliki hutang banyak?

 What about INDF, BLTA ?

 Sip : tbumi

 Setiap emiten pasti ada hutang, yg penting apakah roda bisnisnya

 bisa berputar lancar utk membayar hutang hutang tsb.

 Utk mendapatkan bahan kayu dari hutan disaat ini sudah tak

 segampang dulu lagi, tentunya ini akan sangat memukul produsen

 (bubur) kertas seperti INKP dan TKIM. Dgn terganggunya produksi

 tsb tentunya akan terganggu juga penjualan eksportnya dan akhirnya

 akan berakibat ke pembayaran hutang hutangnya.

 BLTA boleh dikatakan roda bisnisnya masih bagus dimana

 sebagian kapal tankernya mengangkut CPO dari Malaysia. Emiten

 ini juga sdh listing di Singapore.

 Dulunya INDF adalah saham selalu tertidur pulas, hanya produknya

 di saat itu tak banyak saingannya khususnya mie instant.

 Disaat ini persaingan baru di mie instant sangat banyak, maka itu

 INDF cepat menambah bisnisnya di sektor lain yaitu CPO dimana

 INDF mengakuisisi LSIP. Setelah masuk ke LSIP, maka roda bisnis

 INDF sdh membaik dan sahamnya INDF boleh dikatakan ikut naik juga.

 Gudang Garam juga sdh masuk ke lahan kelapa sawit, boleh dikatakan

 CPO mempunyai prospek bisnis yang sangat bagus.





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Re: [ob] Oil

2009-08-16 Terurut Topik JT™
Sampai 65 juga masih ok Pak.., no worry lah.., terlalu tinggi juga ngga bagus, 
will post the chart later..


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Date: Sat, 15 Aug 2009 20:21:33 
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.comobrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [ob] Oil


Saya nunggu survey (oil chart) dari prof JT aja. 
 tolong dong prof di harga brp support harga WTI. Itungan saya 67, dibawah 67 
baru worry.

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On Aug 16, 2009, at 6:51, Candra Wu wu_can...@yahoo.com wrote:

Harga Si Emas Hitam Merosot 4,27%

Sabtu, 15 Agustus 2009 - 16:56 wib

NEW YORK - Harga minyak mentah tercatat mengalami penurunan terbesar selama dua 
minggu terakhir. Hal ini terjadi setelah para konsumen merasa kurang percaya 
diri karena melihat laporan data yang menunjukkan kelemahan ekonomi.

Harga minyak mentah jatuh ke level USD3,01 atau setara dengan 4,27 persen ke 
posisi USD67,51 per barel. Sedangkan minyak jenis London Brent harganya jatuh 
sebanyak USD1,07 sehingga berada di posisi USD72,41per barel.

Dilanjutkannya, penurunan tersebut adalah yang terbesar sejak 29 Juli lalu. 
Yakni sesudah survei yang dilakukan oleh Universitas Michigan mengenai 
konsumen, dilaporkan bahwa konsumsi mengalami penurunan terendah di awal 
Agustus ini sejak Maret lalu. Hal ini terefleksi dari indeks Wall Street yang 
mengalami pelemahan pada akhir pekan ini.

Turunnya harga minyak mentah tersebut, diikuti dengan imbas stok di pasar dan 
sesudah survei konsumen dilaporkan. Selain itu, konsumen percaya akan kejatuhan 
harga minyak pada awal bulan ini, kata Analis MF Global Research Tom Pawlicki 
di Chicago, seperti dikutip dari Reuters, Sabtu (15/8/2009).

Selanjutnya, harga minyak diprediksi akan berlipat ganda pada musim dingin pada 
Desember menjadi lebih rendah yakni sekira USD33 per barel. Yakni karena 
kebutuhannya diperkirakan meningkat, sehingga optimisme pasar akan bangkit.





  


Re: [ob] Oil

2009-08-16 Terurut Topik vividtrader
Kalau lihat MACDnya doang sih oil dead cross dan bikin negative divergence.
Ini chartnya:
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_vThAy-gidUs/Sofb1nkH2HI/AMU/DT-VgkwiTOk/s1600-h/oil+dc.gif

Pada 16 Agustus 2009 16:33, JT™ jsxtra...@yahoo.com menulis:



 Sampai 65 juga masih ok Pak.., no worry lah.., terlalu tinggi juga ngga
 bagus, will post the chart later..

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 *From*: TimurLaut
 *Date*: Sat, 15 Aug 2009 20:21:33 -0700 (PDT)
 *To*: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.comobrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
 *Subject*: Re: [ob] Oil
 Saya nunggu survey (oil chart) dari prof JT aja.
  tolong dong prof di harga brp support harga WTI. Itungan saya 67, dibawah
 67 baru worry.

 Sent from my iPhone

 On Aug 16, 2009, at 6:51, Candra Wu wu_can...@yahoo.com wrote:



 Harga Si Emas Hitam Merosot 4,27%

 Sabtu, 15 Agustus 2009 - 16:56 wib

 NEW YORK - Harga minyak mentah tercatat mengalami penurunan terbesar selama
 dua minggu terakhir. Hal ini terjadi setelah para konsumen merasa kurang
 percaya diri karena melihat laporan data yang menunjukkan kelemahan ekonomi.

 Harga minyak mentah jatuh ke level USD3,01 atau setara dengan 4,27 persen
 ke posisi USD67,51 per barel. Sedangkan minyak jenis London Brent harganya
 jatuh sebanyak USD1,07 sehingga berada di posisi USD72,41per barel.

 Dilanjutkannya, penurunan tersebut adalah yang terbesar sejak 29 Juli lalu.
 Yakni sesudah survei yang dilakukan oleh Universitas Michigan mengenai
 konsumen, dilaporkan bahwa konsumsi mengalami penurunan terendah di awal
 Agustus ini sejak Maret lalu. Hal ini terefleksi dari indeks Wall Street
 yang mengalami pelemahan pada akhir pekan ini.

 Turunnya harga minyak mentah tersebut, diikuti dengan imbas stok di pasar
 dan sesudah survei konsumen dilaporkan. Selain itu, konsumen percaya akan
 kejatuhan harga minyak pada awal bulan ini, kata Analis MF Global Research
 Tom Pawlicki di Chicago, seperti dikutip dari Reuters, Sabtu (15/8/2009).

 Selanjutnya, harga minyak diprediksi akan berlipat ganda pada musim dingin
 pada Desember menjadi lebih rendah yakni sekira USD33 per barel. Yakni
 karena kebutuhannya diperkirakan meningkat, sehingga optimisme pasar akan
 bangkit.




 



Re: [ob] Oil

2009-08-16 Terurut Topik riil_investor
Tidak secara lansung! Pabrik kerta umumnya dah pakai coal untuk proses 
produksinya!
Jd jelas khan korelasinya? Sangat bergantung jg dg oil price!

Selanjutnya, terserah anda interprestasinya lah ! Ngga usah di guide dah ngerti 
khan?

Tx

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Date: Sun, 16 Aug 2009 13:49:40 
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [ob] Oil


Newbie bole tanya?
Apa hubungan pabrik kertas dengan oil?
Apakah dalam produksi kertas membutuhkan oil jumlah besar?
Thx

On 8/16/09, t_bumi t_b...@yahoo.co.id wrote:
 --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Peter Alimin  milis...@... wrote:

 Sip : tbumi

 INKP dan TKIM hutangnya banyaaak !



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[ob] Oil 67, ihsg setahun lalu -10%

2009-08-16 Terurut Topik Kidod25
Merdeka? Ha ha ha



Re: [ob] Oil 67, ihsg setahun lalu -10%

2009-08-16 Terurut Topik anru . sing

Kalau saat th 2003, 2006 gimana? Berulang tiap 3 th 

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Date: Mon, 17 Aug 2009 00:20:12 
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [ob] Oil 67, ihsg setahun lalu -10%


Merdeka? Ha ha ha




[ob] Oil

2009-08-15 Terurut Topik Candra Wu
Harga Si Emas Hitam Merosot 4,27%

Sabtu, 15 Agustus 2009 - 16:56 wib

NEW YORK - Harga minyak mentah tercatat mengalami penurunan terbesar selama dua 
minggu terakhir. Hal ini terjadi setelah para konsumen merasa kurang percaya 
diri karena melihat laporan data yang menunjukkan kelemahan ekonomi.

Harga minyak mentah jatuh ke level USD3,01 atau setara dengan 4,27 persen ke 
posisi USD67,51 per barel. Sedangkan minyak jenis London Brent harganya jatuh 
sebanyak USD1,07 sehingga berada di posisi USD72,41per barel.

Dilanjutkannya, penurunan tersebut adalah yang terbesar sejak 29 Juli lalu. 
Yakni sesudah survei yang dilakukan oleh Universitas Michigan mengenai 
konsumen, dilaporkan bahwa konsumsi mengalami penurunan terendah di awal 
Agustus ini sejak Maret lalu. Hal ini terefleksi dari indeks Wall Street yang 
mengalami pelemahan pada akhir pekan ini.

Turunnya harga minyak mentah tersebut, diikuti dengan imbas stok di pasar dan 
sesudah survei konsumen dilaporkan. Selain itu, konsumen percaya akan kejatuhan 
harga minyak pada awal bulan ini, kata Analis MF Global Research Tom Pawlicki 
di Chicago, seperti dikutip dari Reuters, Sabtu (15/8/2009).

Selanjutnya, harga minyak diprediksi akan berlipat ganda pada musim dingin pada 
Desember menjadi lebih rendah yakni sekira USD33 per barel. Yakni karena 
kebutuhannya diperkirakan meningkat, sehingga optimisme pasar akan bangkit. 

Re: [ob] Oil

2009-08-15 Terurut Topik Rei
*Selanjutnya, harga minyak diprediksi akan berlipat ganda pada musim dingin
pada Desember menjadi lebih rendah (?) yakni sekitar USD33 per barel. Yakni
karena kebutuhannya diperkirakan meningkat, sehingga optimisme pasar akan
bangkit.**
*
*Binun...gak sinkron nih?
*
2009/8/16 Candra Wu wu_can...@yahoo.com



 Harga Si Emas Hitam Merosot 4,27%

 Sabtu, 15 Agustus 2009 - 16:56 wib

 NEW YORK - Harga minyak mentah tercatat mengalami penurunan terbesar selama
 dua minggu terakhir. Hal ini terjadi setelah para konsumen merasa kurang
 percaya diri karena melihat laporan data yang menunjukkan kelemahan ekonomi.


 Harga minyak mentah jatuh ke level USD3,01 atau setara dengan 4,27 persen
 ke posisi USD67,51 per barel. Sedangkan minyak jenis London Brent harganya
 jatuh sebanyak USD1,07 sehingga berada di posisi USD72,41per barel.

 Dilanjutkannya, penurunan tersebut adalah yang terbesar sejak 29 Juli lalu.
 Yakni sesudah survei yang dilakukan oleh Universitas Michigan mengenai
 konsumen, dilaporkan bahwa konsumsi mengalami penurunan terendah di awal
 Agustus ini sejak Maret lalu. Hal ini terefleksi dari indeks Wall Street
 yang mengalami pelemahan pada akhir pekan ini.

 Turunnya harga minyak mentah tersebut, diikuti dengan imbas stok di pasar
 dan sesudah survei konsumen dilaporkan. Selain itu, konsumen percaya akan
 kejatuhan harga minyak pada awal bulan ini, kata Analis MF Global Research
 Tom Pawlicki di Chicago, seperti dikutip dari Reuters, Sabtu (15/8/2009).

 Selanjutnya, harga minyak diprediksi akan berlipat ganda pada musim dingin
 pada Desember menjadi lebih rendah yakni sekira USD33 per barel. Yakni
 karena kebutuhannya diperkirakan meningkat, sehingga optimisme pasar akan
 bangkit.
  



Re: [ob] Oil

2009-08-15 Terurut Topik Peter Alimin
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From: Rei highwaysta...@gmail.com

Date: Sun, 16 Aug 2009 04:13:55 
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [ob] Oil


  
 
 
 
Selanjutnya, harga minyak diprediksi akan berlipat ganda pada musim dingin pada 
Desember menjadi lebih rendah (?) yakni sekitar USD33 per barel. Yakni karena 
kebutuhannya diperkirakan meningkat, sehingga optimisme pasar akan bangkit.
 

Binun...gak sinkron nih?
 

2009/8/16 Candra Wu wu_can...@yahoo. mailto:wu_can...@yahoo.com com
 
   
 
 
 
Harga Si Emas Hitam Merosot 4,27% 
 
 Sabtu, 15 Agustus 2009 - 16:56 wib 
 
 NEW YORK - Harga minyak mentah tercatat mengalami penurunan terbesar selama 
dua minggu terakhir. Hal ini terjadi setelah para konsumen merasa kurang 
percaya diri karena melihat laporan data yang menunjukkan kelemahan ekonomi. 
 
 Harga minyak mentah jatuh ke level USD3,01 atau setara dengan 4,27 persen ke 
posisi USD67,51 per barel. Sedangkan minyak jenis London Brent harganya jatuh 
sebanyak USD1,07 sehingga berada di posisi USD72,41per barel. 
 
 Dilanjutkannya, penurunan tersebut adalah yang terbesar sejak 29 Juli lalu. 
Yakni sesudah survei yang dilakukan oleh Universitas Michigan mengenai 
konsumen, dilaporkan bahwa konsumsi mengalami penurunan terendah di awal 
Agustus ini sejak Maret lalu. Hal ini terefleksi dari indeks Wall Street yang 
mengalami pelemahan pada akhir pekan ini. 
 
 Turunnya harga minyak mentah tersebut, diikuti dengan imbas stok di pasar dan 
sesudah survei konsumen dilaporkan. Selain itu, konsumen percaya akan kejatuhan 
harga minyak pada awal bulan ini, kata Analis MF Global Research Tom Pawlicki 
di Chicago, seperti dikutip dari Reuters, Sabtu (15/8/2009). 
 
 Selanjutnya, harga minyak diprediksi akan berlipat ganda pada musim dingin 
pada Desember menjadi lebih rendah yakni sekira USD33 per barel. Yakni karena 
kebutuhannya diperkirakan meningkat, sehingga optimisme pasar akan bangkit.  

 
  





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Re: [ob] Oil

2009-08-15 Terurut Topik t_bumi
--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Peter Alimin  milis...@... wrote:

 Sip : tbumi

INKP dan TKIM hutangnya banyaaak !



Re: [ob] Oil

2009-08-15 Terurut Topik Rei
Nah itu dia yg saya bingung...oil sih pasti akan 100 lagi sooner or later.Gak
pake data, cuma feeling nekad hahaha

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 -Original Message-
 From: Rei highwaysta...@gmail.com

 Date: Sun, 16 Aug 2009 04:13:55
 To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
 Subject: Re: [ob] Oil






 Selanjutnya, harga minyak diprediksi akan berlipat ganda pada musim dingin
 pada Desember menjadi lebih rendah (?) yakni sekitar USD33 per barel. Yakni
 karena kebutuhannya diperkirakan meningkat, sehingga optimisme pasar akan
 bangkit.


 Binun...gak sinkron nih?


 2009/8/16 Candra Wu wu_can...@yahoo. mailto:wu_can...@yahoo.com com





 Harga Si Emas Hitam Merosot 4,27%

  Sabtu, 15 Agustus 2009 - 16:56 wib

  NEW YORK - Harga minyak mentah tercatat mengalami penurunan terbesar
 selama dua minggu terakhir. Hal ini terjadi setelah para konsumen merasa
 kurang percaya diri karena melihat laporan data yang menunjukkan kelemahan
 ekonomi.

  Harga minyak mentah jatuh ke level USD3,01 atau setara dengan 4,27 persen
 ke posisi USD67,51 per barel. Sedangkan minyak jenis London Brent harganya
 jatuh sebanyak USD1,07 sehingga berada di posisi USD72,41per barel.

  Dilanjutkannya, penurunan tersebut adalah yang terbesar sejak 29 Juli
 lalu. Yakni sesudah survei yang dilakukan oleh Universitas Michigan mengenai
 konsumen, dilaporkan bahwa konsumsi mengalami penurunan terendah di awal
 Agustus ini sejak Maret lalu. Hal ini terefleksi dari indeks Wall Street
 yang mengalami pelemahan pada akhir pekan ini.

  Turunnya harga minyak mentah tersebut, diikuti dengan imbas stok di pasar
 dan sesudah survei konsumen dilaporkan. Selain itu, konsumen percaya akan
 kejatuhan harga minyak pada awal bulan ini, kata Analis MF Global Research
 Tom Pawlicki di Chicago, seperti dikutip dari Reuters, Sabtu (15/8/2009).

  Selanjutnya, harga minyak diprediksi akan berlipat ganda pada musim dingin
 pada Desember menjadi lebih rendah yakni sekira USD33 per barel. Yakni
 karena kebutuhannya diperkirakan meningkat, sehingga optimisme pasar akan
 bangkit.





 

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Re: [ob] Oil

2009-08-15 Terurut Topik Jacob Oen
Pak t_bumi,

Selain BUMI, INKP dan TKIM, emiten mana lagi yang memiliki hutang banyak?

What about INDF, BLTA ?
 

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Date: Sun, 16 Aug 2009 04:48:48 
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [ob] Oil


--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Peter Alimin  milis...@... wrote:

 Sip : tbumi

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Re: [ob] Oil

2009-08-15 Terurut Topik jkunci
Biarpun kemaren oil turun tajam, namun djuscl berhasil bertahan di atas 256,7 
previous high yaitu 269,4. Jadi market coal masih optimis kenaikan minyak masih 
berlanjut. Optimis?? Boleh2 aja kan? 

Salam,


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Date: Sun, 16 Aug 2009 12:11:42 
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [ob] Oil


Nah itu dia yg saya bingung...oil sih pasti akan 100 lagi sooner or later.Gak
pake data, cuma feeling nekad hahaha

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 -Original Message-
 From: Rei highwaysta...@gmail.com

 Date: Sun, 16 Aug 2009 04:13:55
 To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
 Subject: Re: [ob] Oil






 Selanjutnya, harga minyak diprediksi akan berlipat ganda pada musim dingin
 pada Desember menjadi lebih rendah (?) yakni sekitar USD33 per barel. Yakni
 karena kebutuhannya diperkirakan meningkat, sehingga optimisme pasar akan
 bangkit.


 Binun...gak sinkron nih?


 2009/8/16 Candra Wu wu_can...@yahoo. mailto:wu_can...@yahoo.com com





 Harga Si Emas Hitam Merosot 4,27%

  Sabtu, 15 Agustus 2009 - 16:56 wib

  NEW YORK - Harga minyak mentah tercatat mengalami penurunan terbesar
 selama dua minggu terakhir. Hal ini terjadi setelah para konsumen merasa
 kurang percaya diri karena melihat laporan data yang menunjukkan kelemahan
 ekonomi.

  Harga minyak mentah jatuh ke level USD3,01 atau setara dengan 4,27 persen
 ke posisi USD67,51 per barel. Sedangkan minyak jenis London Brent harganya
 jatuh sebanyak USD1,07 sehingga berada di posisi USD72,41per barel.

  Dilanjutkannya, penurunan tersebut adalah yang terbesar sejak 29 Juli
 lalu. Yakni sesudah survei yang dilakukan oleh Universitas Michigan mengenai
 konsumen, dilaporkan bahwa konsumsi mengalami penurunan terendah di awal
 Agustus ini sejak Maret lalu. Hal ini terefleksi dari indeks Wall Street
 yang mengalami pelemahan pada akhir pekan ini.

  Turunnya harga minyak mentah tersebut, diikuti dengan imbas stok di pasar
 dan sesudah survei konsumen dilaporkan. Selain itu, konsumen percaya akan
 kejatuhan harga minyak pada awal bulan ini, kata Analis MF Global Research
 Tom Pawlicki di Chicago, seperti dikutip dari Reuters, Sabtu (15/8/2009).

  Selanjutnya, harga minyak diprediksi akan berlipat ganda pada musim dingin
 pada Desember menjadi lebih rendah yakni sekira USD33 per barel. Yakni
 karena kebutuhannya diperkirakan meningkat, sehingga optimisme pasar akan
 bangkit.





 

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[ob] OIL - Chart

2009-08-13 Terurut Topik JT
Trend masih OK.., MACD slip. Breakout level  72,6

 

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Re: [ob] OIL - Chart

2009-08-13 Terurut Topik Aria Bela Nusa
Mantheb, tho - Price Chart ketiga2nya membentuk rondings bottom, saucer
(CH) yg merupakan bentuk dr continuations pattern - artinya meneruskan
pola trend sebelonnya utk berkelanjutan2 lg + sptnya indicators laennya jg
mendukung2



 Trend masih OK.., MACD slip. Breakout level  72,6



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RE: [ob] OIL - Chart - Update

2009-08-03 Terurut Topik JT
Looking Good ! 

 

( tp jangan lebih dari 80 dah., repot juga kalo bensin naik lagi. )

 

JT

 

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Subject: [ob] OIL - Chart

 






Very Good !

 

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RE: [ob] OIL - Chart - Update

2009-08-03 Terurut Topik Aria Bela Nusa
Sptnya itu bisa 'aja berlebih2 - target sementara ini malah  90 = 75 +
(75-60) ...




 Looking Good !



 ( tp jangan lebih dari 80 dah., repot juga kalo bensin naik lagi. )



 JT



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 Very Good !



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RE: [ob] OIL - Chart - Update === CPO chart dong?

2009-08-03 Terurut Topik TimurLaut
CPO gimana? 


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Looking Good ! 

( tp jangan lebih dari 80 dah…, repot juga kalo bensin naik lagi… )

JT





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Very Good !




  

CPO - RE: [ob] OIL - Chart - Update === CPO chart dong?

2009-08-03 Terurut Topik JT
CPO CAKEP !!

 

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CPO gimana? 

 

 


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Date: Tuesday, August 4, 2009, 8:44 AM

  

Looking Good ! 

 

( tp jangan lebih dari 80 dah…, repot juga kalo bensin naik lagi… )

 

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[ob] OIL - Chart

2009-07-30 Terurut Topik JT
Very Good !

 

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[ob] Oil chart::marketwise teknikal

2009-07-29 Terurut Topik TimurLaut
Mbah, tolong dong terawangannya utk oil chart. 

Hatur nuhun mbah


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[ob] OIL bloomberg vs reuters

2009-07-26 Terurut Topik Charles Atmaja
Embah.. kok ada yg aneh...

Bent oil futures di Bloomberg ama di reuters bisa beda jauh...
di bloomberg $65 vs di reuters $70

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Re: [ob] OIL bloomberg vs reuters

2009-07-26 Terurut Topik Adit
barangnya beda kali boss, tadi sih bloomber 68 untuk wti crude, reuters ngga
tau,
tapi biasa lah beda, kurs aja beda,

2009/7/26 Charles Atmaja charles_3...@yahoo.com



 Embah.. kok ada yg aneh...

 Bent oil futures di Bloomberg ama di reuters bisa beda jauh...
 di bloomberg $65 vs di reuters $70

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Re: [ob] Oil rises above $68 on economic optimism

2009-07-26 Terurut Topik dario kurniawan
hiks baru juga nikmatin bensin shell under 5500-5900 masa mau naik lagi sih 
mesin mobil jadi enak bgt sejak pake sheel 2 taun terakhir..pas shell diatas 
ceban make mobil irit2 bgt 

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  Kayak mainan kan? Waktu dari 50an ke 70an juga dgn alasan 
sama. Trus turun ke 58-59 lagi dgn alasan prospek ekonomi global blm membaik, 
skrg naik lagi sdh $10 dgn alasan ekonomi prospectful. ..kena aja dibohongin 
terus ama bandar hahaha 

3 thn lalu (lupa) jg sama dari 60 ke 80, turun lagi ke 60 naik ke 100...kocok2 
ala bandar minyak. Mantap!

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Re: [ob] Oil rises above $68 on economic optimism

2009-07-26 Terurut Topik Kabu Nusi
how about:
E-China: The bicycle kingdom is going electric
http://finance.yahoo.com/news/EChina...asset=ccode=
In China, the bicycle kingdom, e-bikes beat traffic and take the sweat out of 
pedal-pushing 
By Elaine Kurtenbach, AP Business Writer 
On Sunday July 26, 2009, 1:01 am EDT
SHANGHAI (AP) -- It's a simple pleasure, but Xu Beilu savors it daily: gliding 
past snarled traffic on her motorized bicycle, relaxed and sweat-free alongside 
the pedal-pushing masses. China, the world's bicycle kingdom -- one for every 
three inhabitants -- is going electric.

Workers weary of crammed public transport or pedaling long distances to jobs 
are upgrading to battery-powered bikes and scooters. Even some who can afford 
cars are ditching them for electric two-wheelers to avoid traffic jams and 
expensive gasoline.

The trend is catching on in the U.S. and elsewhere.



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To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
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hiks baru juga nikmatin bensin shell under 5500-5900 masa mau naik lagi sih 
mesin mobil jadi enak bgt sejak pake sheel 2 taun terakhir..pas shell diatas 
ceban make mobil irit2 bgt 

Dario Amran

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  Kayak mainan kan? Waktu dari 50an ke 70an juga dgn alasan 
sama. Trus turun ke 58-59 lagi dgn alasan prospek ekonomi global blm membaik, 
skrg naik lagi sdh $10 dgn alasan ekonomi prospectful. ..kena aja dibohongin 
terus ama bandar hahaha 

3 thn lalu (lupa) jg sama dari 60 ke 80, turun lagi ke 60 naik ke 100...kocok2 
ala bandar minyak. Mantap!

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http://www.reuters. com/article/ hotStocksNews/ idUSTRE55L17H200 90724
 
 

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[ob] Oil rises above $68 on economic optimism

2009-07-24 Terurut Topik Bumi T
 
 
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Re: [ob] Oil rises above $68 on economic optimism

2009-07-24 Terurut Topik Rei
Kayak mainan kan? Waktu dari 50an ke 70an juga dgn alasan sama. Trus turun
ke 58-59 lagi dgn alasan prospek ekonomi global blm membaik, skrg naik lagi
sdh $10 dgn alasan ekonomi prospectful...kena aja dibohongin terus ama
bandar hahaha
3 thn lalu (lupa) jg sama dari 60 ke 80, turun lagi ke 60 naik ke
100...kocok2 ala bandar minyak. Mantap!

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[ob] OIL 66usd/bl

2009-07-23 Terurut Topik Saham Oke




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[ob] Oil Shares at Deepest Discount Signal Recession’s End

2009-07-20 Terurut Topik Vic
Oil Shares at Deepest Discount Signal Recession's End (Update1)

By Rita Nazareth and Michael Tsang

July 20 (Bloomberg) -- The cheapest valuations in at least 14 years are making 
oil companies too alluring to pass up for UBS AG and Guggenheim Partners LLC, 
even though earnings in the industry may fall 48 percent this year.

Oil and gas producers in the MSCI World Index traded at $7.84 per dollar of 
profit this month, less than half the average of $17.10 in the gauge of 
developed markets and the widest gap since at least 1995, data compiled by 
Bloomberg show. UBS, Guggenheim and Cohen  Steers Inc. are buying stocks from 
Exxon Mobil Corp. to Transocean Ltd. because an economic rebound will lift the 
industry after it generated at least 50 percent more profits than any other 
group in the past year.

Recovering energy shares may signal an end to the 42 percent drop in the MSCI 
World since October 2007 and the first global contraction in six decades. 
Rallies in oil and gas stocks marked the end of the last five U.S. recessions 
based on average returns, according to Ned Davis Research Inc.

Energy will be one of the industries that lead us out, said Scott Minerd, who 
oversees more than $100 billion as chief investment officer at Guggenheim in 
Santa Monica, California. Shares are cheap and attractive. It's a very good 
time for investors to buy the group betting on stronger demand for commodities 
and a rebound in earnings.

The MSCI World added 0.2 percent to 984.48 as of 6:53 a.m. in London, with a 
measure of energy shares in the index rising 0.3 percent. Crude oil climbed 
above $64 a barrel in electronic trading on the New York Mercantile Exchange.

Exxon, Chevron

Minerd is boosting holdings even as analysts predict the global slump in energy 
demand will cause per-share earnings at energy companies in the MSCI World to 
drop to $13.36 from $25.74 in 2008, share-adjusted data compiled by Bloomberg 
show.

Profits at Exxon Mobil and San Ramon, California-based Chevron Corp., the two 
biggest U.S. oil companies, and BP Plc, the second-largest in Europe, will fall 
at least 50 percent, according to per-share estimates compiled by Bloomberg. 
Exxon and Chevron reported record earnings last year, while BP's was within 6 
percent of an all-time high. Along with Royal Dutch Shell Plc, they made up 
four of the five most-profitable companies in developed countries during the 
past 12 months, data compiled by Bloomberg show.

Their shares are trading at the steepest discounts on record because investors 
are still shocked by the 78 percent plunge in crude prices. While oil is up 43 
percent this year, it fell as low as $32.40 a barrel in New York on Dec. 19 
from a record $147.27 one year ago.

`Rear-View Mirror'

The Paris-based International Energy Agency estimates that the global recession 
will slash worldwide oil demand by 2.8 percent this year. Lower profits have 
prompted the Hague-based Shell, the largest oil company in Europe by market 
value, to put two refineries in northern Germany up for sale, and it may close 
or sell another plant in Montreal.

Without increased demand, energy shares won't beat the stock market's 
performance, said E. William Stone, who oversees $96 billion as chief 
investment strategist at PNC Financial Services Group Inc.'s wealth management 
unit in Philadelphia.

Energy shares are not necessarily cheap, especially looking at the past 12 
months of earnings, said Stone. You're looking at the rear-view mirror at 
much higher oil prices. That may mislead you.

Valuations for energy companies are 54 percent below the average for the MSCI 
World, almost twice the gap of any other group, according to data compiled by 
Bloomberg. On a per-share basis, energy companies generate almost 12 cents in 
profit for every shareholder dollar, the highest earnings yield among the 10 
industries in the MSCI World.

Depressed Valuations

Exxon Mobil made $38.9 billion over the last four quarters and has never traded 
at a bigger discount to the world index's average, data compiled by Bloomberg 
show. The second-largest company by market value fetches 9.35 times earnings, 
49 percent less than the average for the benchmark of 23 nations.

Shares of Geneva-based Transocean, the world's largest offshore driller, are 
valued at 5.19 times profit, a 72 percent discount to the MSCI World. That's 
close to the widest gap since at least 1995, the data show.

Those are bargains, said Mike Ryan, the New York-based head of wealth 
management research for the Americas at UBS Financial Services Inc., which 
oversees $590 billion.

Energy shares were at depressed levels, said Ryan. As the economy gains some 
traction, commodity prices will recover and that will support the energy market 
and energy stocks.

Global Rebound

UBS Financial, part of Zurich-based UBS, Switzerland's largest bank by assets, 
has its biggest overweight position in energy stocks, compared with 
investments in each of the 10 

[ob] Oil below 60

2009-07-09 Terurut Topik andref_r
SN 3M   12525   12675   
-695
NI 3M   14550   14650   
-350
OIL 59.83
CPO 2055



[ob] Oil udah 60

2009-07-08 Terurut Topik Kidod25
Price in or camuflage?



Re: [ob] Oil udah 60

2009-07-08 Terurut Topik Febry Hariyannugraha
Dow kayaknya akan tutup flat ... atau merah tipis ...
We'll see 


[ob] oil news

2009-06-21 Terurut Topik eddytj99
2nd UPDATE:Nigeria Militants Say They Attacked Shell Pipelines
Tagged with: Crude Oil

DOW JONES NEWSWIRES

(Updates with additional statement by militants, other details.)

IBADAN, Nigeria (Dow Jones)–Two major oil pipelines belonging to Royal Dutch 
Shell PLC (RDSA) have been attacked in different locations by a militant group 
in Nigeria's southeast Rivers state, a spokesman for the group said Sunday.

Jomo Gbomo of the Movement for the Emancipation of the Niger Delta, or MEND, 
said in a statement that the Shell pipelines located at Adamakiri and Kula were 
attacked in the early hours Sunday.

He said the Adamakiri pipeline was pounded at about 2:30 a.m. local time, 
before the Kula pipeline was attacked 30 minutes later.

Officials of Shell and the military in the Niger Delta were not immediately 
available to comment on the attacks.

If both attacks are confirmed, it will be the second time MEND fighters would 
have attacked and damaged Shell facilities in the Niger Delta in the past 
several days.

MEND earlier in June claimed responsibility for the damage to Shell's 
TransForcados trunk line at Chamomile creek.

Gbomo added in the statement that MEND had been reliably informed that the 
Chevron Corp. (CVX) airstrip in Escravos was used by the military as staging 
area for the jet fighters and helicopter gunships used in the attacks and 
bombing of civilian communities in Gbaramatu kingdom of Delta state.

He said Chevron will pay a price in double measure for allowing its 
facilities to be used in committing atrocities against the host communities 
where it drills oil and gas.

He said Chevron had repeated the same mistake by Shell against communities of 
the Ogoni. The Ogonis had prohibited Shell from carrying on oil exploration in 
their area in the Niger Delta due to alleged Shell atrocities against Ogoni 
people and environmental degradation.

Earlier this month, MEND attacked and blew up oil wells owned by Chevron in 
southern Delta state. The movement said it attacked Chevron's Makaraba oil well 
3 and 5, along with its trunk line and gas lifts, and the Otunana oil well 1, 
along with its gas lift trunklines.

MEND and other militant groups in the Niger Delta have since February 2006 
kidnapped local and foreign oil workers and damaged several oil and gas 
pipelines. They have succeeded in cutting Nigeria's oil export by around 1 
million barrels, according to official estimates.

The militants said they are fighting for a bigger share of the huge oil wealth 
from the region. MEND has spurned President Umaru Yar'Adua's offer of an 
amnesty for militants who laid down their arms and embraced peace.

-By Obafemi Oredein, For Dow Jones Newswires; 234-2-7510489



[ob] Oil May Top $250

2009-06-10 Terurut Topik Sulistyo Winarto
Oil May Top $250, Says Gazprom CEO
By: Reuters | 10 Jun 2009 | 11:49 AM
ET
A shortage of oil and gas investment means the sector will
fail to meet demand when the global economy begins to recover, Gazprom Chief 
Executive Alexei
Miller said on Wednesday
There are no guarantees that further
increases in oil demand will be supported by a sufficient growth in investments,
the head of the Russian natural gas giant said. 
Nobody has solved the issue of
the 2012 supply gap which may emerge later than thought but which
will be deeper. It means prices may
even jump over the $250 hurdle we have forecast a year ago, Miller said
in a written text of a speech at a conference in Italy on the financial crisis
and energy

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[ob] Oil 70 and MAPPI

2009-06-09 Terurut Topik andref_r
Is it time for hajatan? kl bener timingnya pas bgt 



Re: [ob] Oil 70 and MAPPI

2009-06-09 Terurut Topik re...@trade
Kl diomongin biasanya si BOZZ jadi contrarian Pak, kyk senin minggu kemarin. Tp 
kl BOZZ sepakat, bisa jd pesta hajatan 7 hari 7 malem nih hehehe

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Is it time for hajatan? kl bener timingnya pas bgt 




Re: [ob] Oil 70 and MAPPI

2009-06-09 Terurut Topik Cougar Boy
Hajar BUMI
DJUSCL juga naik 4.49% no worries

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 Is it time for hajatan? kl bener timingnya pas bgt

  



Re: [ob] Oil 70 and MAPPI

2009-06-09 Terurut Topik Rei
Only Bumi pak? Biar cepet2 turun? [?]

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 Hajar BUMI
 DJUSCL juga naik 4.49% no worries

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 Is it time for hajatan? kl bener timingnya pas bgt


  

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[ob] Oil Upgraded by GS

2009-06-04 Terurut Topik andref_r
Goldman Sachs raised its end of 2009 oil price forecast to $85 a barrel from 
$65 and 2010 forecast of $95.



[ob] Oil

2009-06-04 Terurut Topik Ricky Wakiman
Minyak udah tembus $69 lagi tuh. So?

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Re: [ob] Oil

2009-06-04 Terurut Topik Rei
Still on the way up mengikuti target OPEC yaitu $75...
Kan kemarin Goldman Sachs revisi target oil dari $65 menjadi $85 akhir
2009...walaupun perush-nya sama (yg -upgrade oil akan ke $200 thn lalu) tapi
analisanya beda...begitu kata Aaron Burnet dari CNBC semalam.


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[ob] OIL tahun 2010 cuman 20usd per barel

2009-06-04 Terurut Topik Saham Oke
Batu bara akan stagnan harganya apabila iklan kayak gene ada dimana mana di 
dunia...

Don't pay for
your gas any longer...

Instead, the government will pay YOU!  

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Re: [ob] OIL tahun 2010 cuman 20usd per barel

2009-06-04 Terurut Topik Rei
Typical American advertisment...hehe

2009/6/5 Saham Oke wasi...@yahoo.com



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