Hi Terry,
I have got to know you are migrating OOo forum to the Apache Infrastructure,
and have accomplished several Community Forums, including the Japanese, but
when I want to access to the Chinese Community Forum, an error appears, like
this: Language file ./language/zh_cs/common.php
2011/9/5 Ross Gardler rgard...@opendirective.com:
My only concern
is the visibility into private discussions relating to list policies.
Just to be clear: discussions about policies are very rare, and
happened mostly on the past during the forum self-organization. Most
of the time discussions on
Hi Terry and all,
I have got to know we are migrating OOo forum to the Apache Infrastructure, and
have accomplished several Community Forums, including the Japanese, but when I
want to access to the Chinese Community Forum, an error appears, like this:
Language file
Hi,
You warns us about a migration test forum:
http://ooo-forums.apache.org/zh/forum/
Where I get same error: Language file ./language/zh_cs/common.php
couldn't be opened.
The migration test not finished,
The http://user.services.openoffice.org/zh/forum/ working correctly? I
can reach it.
So, what now?
I consider the ooo-forums a very important part of this project. Who
else is able to help, when Terry is gone?
This was a very sad thing to happen. And honestly, I cannot understand
the way some stuff was discussed in this matter. I have learned that
the goals of both parties are
Hello,
there are much emotions on the ooo forum at the moment and my feeling
says if we continue this path of discussion, we'll have some problems.
Now I had an idea: what if we would make up another incubator podling
- the ooo forums - with an own PPMC.
In fact Rob already expressed something
Not sure if this was directed at me:if it was, my handle is thegurkha
and my real name is Dave McKay.
On 05/09/2011 23:23, eric b wrote:
Hi,
Just curious: what is your real name ?
Regards,
Eric Bachard
On Tue, 6 Sep 2011 12:03:34 +0200
Christian Grobmeier grobme...@gmail.com wrote:
snip I think making ooo-forums another podling is way easier than
integrating it into ooo-dev.
Christian: I have posted this suggestion to the Forum as I think it worthy of
consideration. I made the following
Hi,
Two email postings, written in Greek, where rejected by a moderator
yesterday - may I ask who did that and why?
thanks
Drew Jensen
Perhaps you could define which list first of all, and if you know it you can
contact the moderators directly:
listname-owner@a.a.o
i.e. ooo-dev-ow...@incubator.apache.org
How do you know they were rejected? Did you get a rejection mail?
On 6 Sep 2011, at 11:40, drew wrote:
Hi,
Two
Sorry guys, wrong projects mailing list.
There where two Russian language emails rejected on this project lists
yesterday - for obvious reasons.
//drew
On Tue, 2011-09-06 at 06:40 -0400, drew wrote:
Hi,
Two email postings, written in Greek, where rejected by a moderator
yesterday - may I
On Tue, Sep 6, 2011 at 12:34 PM, Rory O'Farrell ofarr...@iol.ie wrote:
On Tue, 6 Sep 2011 12:03:34 +0200
Christian Grobmeier grobme...@gmail.com wrote:
snip I think making ooo-forums another podling is way easier than
integrating it into ooo-dev.
Christian: I have posted this suggestion to
On Tue, Sep 6, 2011 at 10:54, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote:
On Mon, Sep 5, 2011 at 7:28 PM, Jean Weber jeanwe...@gmail.com wrote:
... one alternative would be to upload
the doc to Apache-Extra.org. Projects there are hosted by Google
Code, and also agree to these guidelines:
On Tue, 2011-09-06 at 12:54 +0200, Christian Grobmeier wrote:
On Tue, Sep 6, 2011 at 12:34 PM, Rory O'Farrell ofarr...@iol.ie wrote:
On Tue, 6 Sep 2011 12:03:34 +0200
Christian Grobmeier grobme...@gmail.com wrote:
snip I think making ooo-forums another podling is way easier than
On Tue, Sep 6, 2011 at 5:55 AM, Christian Grobmeier grobme...@gmail.com wrote:
-1. Same as Zoltan. Except if admins and moderators are PPMC themselves.
They are the ones who monitor the forum, know the users by reading their
posts and how they react.
So you want to continue picking your own
On Mon, Sep 5, 2011 at 23:02, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote:
Wearing my IBM hat, the larger issue, one that may not concern
everyone here but does concern me, is the impact the license choice
has on our ability to attract corporate-sponsored contributors to an
effort that is not using a
Terry Ellison wrote:
So my answer is that I don't need to do this.
Hence this email is my last involvement in Apache and the Forums. No
more work. Not more listening to attacks. No more listening to support
Very sad news. It's bad to see the community fragmenting again,
especially the forums,
On Tue, 2011-09-06 at 07:18 -0400, Rob Weir wrote:
snip
I suppose it depends on what you mean by the volunteer role.
Hi
I'm going to try and talk to things ONE issue per email -
The Volunteer role - the reason it existed was precisely because there
was no place to ground the forum at
2011.09.06. 12:03 keltezéssel, Christian Grobmeier írta:
Hello,
there are much emotions on the ooo forum at the moment and my feeling
says if we continue this path of discussion, we'll have some problems.
Now I had an idea: what if we would make up another incubator podling
- the ooo forums -
As preparation for tomorrow, how will we deal with bugs found during the
Linux builds? Tag them in the issue tracker? Post them on the mailing
list only?
Thanks, Oli
On 9/5/2011 11:51 PM, Rob Weir wrote:
On Mon, Sep 5, 2011 at 4:48 PM, Matt Richardsmricha...@gmail.com wrote:
Now that I've
On Tue, 6 Sep 2011 10:52:27 +0200, RGB ES rgb.m...@gmail.com wrote:
Well, Rob, you finally did it. I hope you are happy. I'm not.
Even if someone else can work the miracle and get the migration done
(I doubt it), you'll find that the resulting forum under your
conditions will be a place full of
On Mon, Sep 5, 2011 at 10:32 PM, Dave Fisher dave2w...@comcast.net wrote:
Hi Kay,
OK, I've done another svn checkout for the curretn OOo accepted projects
and the put the web info (actually what the OOo site calls source code
which could be a LOT of stuff), and these are now residing in
Sorry, but if this were put to a vote on general@incubator
I'd likely vote -1 as it is out of scope for the incubator
to incubate a non-software-development related group. Frankly
we have no business overseeing this work on anything more
than a formal level because we have no institutional
On Tue, Sep 6, 2011 at 12:51 AM, Pedro F. Giffuni giffu...@tutopia.com wrote:
Hmm ...
It looks like I missed where the decision to use MediaWiki and deprecate
confluence
was taken. I guess it was arranged with infra as long as MW is up to date and
the extensions are documented.
I am not
On Tue, Sep 6, 2011 at 7:18 AM, Jean Weber jeanwe...@gmail.com wrote:
On Mon, Sep 5, 2011 at 23:02, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote:
Wearing my IBM hat, the larger issue, one that may not concern
everyone here but does concern me, is the impact the license choice
has on our ability to
On Tue, 2011-09-06 at 07:13 -0400, drew wrote:
On Tue, 2011-09-06 at 12:54 +0200, Christian Grobmeier wrote:
snip
Thanks. I would have suggested that by myself in the forum but it
seems my account got deactivated.
Hi,
Just checked, your account is fine. If you having problems let me
Just checked, your account is fine. If you having problems let me know -
but I don't see anything odd with the account settings from here.
Ok - think I found it - there was a new group created for the ASF folks,
then your account added to this new group - looks like the culprit was a
On Tue, 6 Sep 2011 05:17:03 -0700 (PDT)
Joe Schaefer joe_schae...@yahoo.com wrote:
Sorry, but if this were put to a vote on general@incubator
I'd likely vote -1 as it is out of scope for the incubator
to incubate a non-software-development related group. Frankly
we have no business
On Tue, 2011-09-06 at 14:36 +0200, Christian Grobmeier wrote:
Just checked, your account is fine. If you having problems let me know -
but I don't see anything odd with the account settings from here.
Ok - think I found it - there was a new group created for the ASF folks,
then your
I did a build overnight on a freshly installed Ubuntu 11.04 (32-bit),
Fresh, clean, nothing extra installed. I had to even apt-get
subversion to get started.
I tried to follow the instructions literally, to find any problems
that might occur. Obviously the typical engineer will work around
There are a lot of differences between how Apache projects are managed
and how OOo services have been managed in the past. This is one where
the actual policies seem to be very similar; however the normal practice
is very different.
At Apache, anyone who signs an iCLA [1] must provide
We currently don't provide any hosting services
at the ASF. Everything we put up on the net is
owned and operated by the ASF (either by infra
or delegated to a project like ooo).
If the forums do wind up being hosted on ASF gear,
the legal ownership of those forums needs to be transferred
to the
On Tue, Sep 6, 2011 at 2:17 PM, Joe Schaefer joe_schae...@yahoo.com wrote:
Sorry, but if this were put to a vote on general@incubator
I'd likely vote -1 as it is out of scope for the incubator
to incubate a non-software-development related group.
We knew when we voted for ooo to come to apache
On Tue, 06 Sep 2011 08:47:25 -0400
Shane Curcuru a...@shanecurcuru.org wrote:
snip
When you sign an iCLA, you may optionally specify a Public name, which
is what Apache displays as public information associated with your
Apache id (if/when you get one). Thus by policy, Apache allows
On Tue, Sep 6, 2011 at 5:45 AM, Christian Grobmeier grobme...@gmail.com wrote:
So, what now?
I consider the ooo-forums a very important part of this project. Who
else is able to help, when Terry is gone?
The important thing is that users have avenues of support. We were
never talking about
Here are the two fundamental and unalterable issues that are going to
cause changes to the forums.
On 9/6/2011 8:37 AM, Rory O'Farrell wrote:
On Tue, 6 Sep 2011 05:17:03 -0700 (PDT) Joe
Schaeferjoe_schae...@yahoo.com wrote:
Sorry, but if this were put to a vote on general@incubator I'd
On Tue, 6 Sep 2011 14:56:35 +0200
Christian Grobmeier grobme...@gmail.com wrote:
snip As Rob said in this thread, there are many people on the forum (75).
This is already a huge number!
They want to have the power to vote new moderators in as they need it.
I think this is incorrect; as I
On Tue, 6 Sep 2011 05:49:09 -0700 (PDT)
Joe Schaefer joe_schae...@yahoo.com wrote:
snip
So to answer your questions, yes it certainly could be done
within the Apache structure. No it probably cannot be done
to host stuff here on behalf of some third party.
Thanks, that is helpful in
On Tue, Sep 6, 2011 at 9:02 AM, Rory O'Farrell ofarr...@iol.ie wrote:
On Tue, 6 Sep 2011 14:56:35 +0200
Christian Grobmeier grobme...@gmail.com wrote:
snip As Rob said in this thread, there are many people on the forum (75).
This is already a huge number!
They want to have the power to vote
Up until a few days ago I thought we had one.
Move the forums over to the ASF, give the PPMC
and ASF members the full ability (upon request)
to oversee allcommunications within the forums,
and life goeson. I see no need for the Volunteers
to join the PPMC or anything like that, just keep
doing
That's more or less what I was referring to when
I talked about the lack of civility omnipresent on
this list.
From: Rob Weir robw...@apache.org
To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org
Sent: Tuesday, September 6, 2011 9:06 AM
Subject: Re: What is needed for Support
On Tue, 06 Sep 2011 09:01:04 -0400
Shane Curcuru a...@shanecurcuru.org wrote:
snip
What is the best *single* place for me to communicate with the primary
decision makers in the forums? Note that I prefer mailing lists but am
happy to use a forum when needed. (I say *single* place only
On Tue, 2011-09-06 at 09:10 -0400, Rob Weir wrote:
On Tue, Sep 6, 2011 at 9:02 AM, Rory O'Farrell ofarr...@iol.ie wrote:
On Tue, 6 Sep 2011 14:56:35 +0200
Christian Grobmeier grobme...@gmail.com wrote:
snip As Rob said in this thread, there are many people on the forum (75).
This is
On Tue, 6 Sep 2011 09:10:32 -0400
Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote:
Here are the roles at Apache:
http://www.apache.org/foundation/how-it-works.html#roles
Do you have a similar list, with definitions, for the forums?
It would be good to understand what you think a Volunteer would map
to
On Tue, 2011-09-06 at 06:13 -0700, Joe Schaefer wrote:
Up until a few days ago I thought we had one.
right - and I thought that was becoming rather clear also.
Move the forums over to the ASF, give the PPMC
and ASF members the full ability (upon request)
to oversee allcommunications within
Rob Weir wrote on Tue, Sep 06, 2011 at 09:06:31 -0400:
I suspect I will be blamed for the *next* time Terry resigns as well,
so I apologize in advance for whenever that day (or hour) comes.
That wasn't necessary.
It is bizarre, but I hear people advocating for community
fragmentation in the name of community unity. Having two parallel
meritocracies within the same project is fragmentation. I don't see
how we can call it anything else.
Working on the same topic does not necessary mean it is the same
It's called delegation Rob, and it's done all the
time within the ASF. The PPMC can delegate ALL
management/oversight aspects to whomever is on
the PPMC that is also involved with the forums.
So long as 1 person on the PPMC is watching over
the activity, and anything noteworthy gets passed
On Tue, Sep 6, 2011 at 9:20 AM, Rory O'Farrell ofarr...@iol.ie wrote:
On Tue, 6 Sep 2011 09:10:32 -0400
Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote:
Here are the roles at Apache:
http://www.apache.org/foundation/how-it-works.html#roles
Do you have a similar list, with definitions, for the forums?
On Tue, Sep 6, 2011 at 9:32 AM, Joe Schaefer joe_schae...@yahoo.com wrote:
It's called delegation Rob, and it's done all the
time within the ASF. The PPMC can delegate ALL
management/oversight aspects to whomever is on
the PPMC that is also involved with the forums.
So long as 1 person on
Where did you get that from in what I wrote?
From: Rob Weir robw...@apache.org
To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org
Sent: Tuesday, September 6, 2011 9:39 AM
Subject: Re: [RT] Create a second incubator podling - the ooo forums
On Tue, Sep 6, 2011 at 9:32 AM, Joe
Shane Curcuru wrote on Tue, Sep 06, 2011 at 09:01:04 -0400:
The fundamental issues requiring some sort of agreement or change are:
1 - The Oracle servers the forums live on are going away (someday).
Hence, the existing technical and organizational leaders of the
forums *must* migrate the
On Tue, Sep 6, 2011 at 9:40 AM, Joe Schaefer joe_schae...@yahoo.com wrote:
Where did you get that from in what I wrote?
Your use of the term ALL (in bold characters)
-Rob
From: Rob Weir robw...@apache.org
To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org
Sent: Tuesday,
Clearly you didn't read the whole sentence
in context. You certainly cannot delegate
away someone'sPPMC voting rights on new committers,
but that wouldn'tbe something I'd call a
management/oversightaspect of the forums.
Two different animals.
From: Rob Weir
On 9/6/2011 9:39 AM, Rob Weir wrote:
On Tue, Sep 6, 2011 at 9:32 AM, Joe Schaeferjoe_schae...@yahoo.com wrote:
It's called delegation Rob, and it's done all the
time within the ASF. The PPMC can delegate ALL
management/oversight aspects to whomever is on
the PPMC that is also involved with
On 9/6/2011 9:48 AM, Joe Schaefer wrote:
Clearly you didn't read the whole sentence
in context. You certainly cannot delegate
away someone'sPPMC voting rights on new committers,
but that wouldn'tbe something I'd call a
management/oversightaspect of the forums.
Two different animals.
Sigh.
On Tue, 2011-09-06 at 09:36 -0400, Rob Weir wrote:
On Tue, Sep 6, 2011 at 9:20 AM, Rory O'Farrell ofarr...@iol.ie wrote:
On Tue, 6 Sep 2011 09:10:32 -0400
Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote:
Here are the roles at Apache:
http://www.apache.org/foundation/how-it-works.html#roles
Do you
On Tue, Sep 6, 2011 at 9:48 AM, Joe Schaefer joe_schae...@yahoo.com wrote:
Clearly you didn't read the whole sentence
in context. You certainly cannot delegate
away someone'sPPMC voting rights on new committers,
but that wouldn'tbe something I'd call a
management/oversightaspect of the
2011/9/6 Shane Curcuru a...@shanecurcuru.org:
There are a lot of differences between how Apache projects are managed and
how OOo services have been managed in the past. This is one where the
actual policies seem to be very similar; however the normal practice is very
different.
At
On 9/6/2011 9:42 AM, Daniel Shahaf wrote:
Shane Curcuru wrote on Tue, Sep 06, 2011 at 09:01:04 -0400:
The fundamental issues requiring some sort of agreement or change are:
1 - The Oracle servers the forums live on are going away (someday).
Hence, the existing technical and organizational
On Tue, Sep 6, 2011 at 10:03 AM, drew d...@baseanswers.com wrote:
On Tue, 2011-09-06 at 09:36 -0400, Rob Weir wrote:
On Tue, Sep 6, 2011 at 9:20 AM, Rory O'Farrell ofarr...@iol.ie wrote:
On Tue, 6 Sep 2011 09:10:32 -0400
Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote:
Here are the roles at Apache:
On 9/5/2011 11:51 PM, Rob Weir wrote:
On Mon, Sep 5, 2011 at 4:48 PM, Matt Richardsmricha...@gmail.com
wrote:
Now that I've built OpenOffice on Linux with
moderate success, I'd like to
lend a helping hand with the documentation side of
things. As far as I am
aware, the existing
On Tue, 6 Sep 2011 14:20:14 +0100
Rory O'Farrell ofarr...@iol.ie wrote:
On my way out the door to a meeting, so no time to read your url at present.
Volunteers do the daily low level work of answering queires
Back from appointment, off to another in a few minutes. Volunteers is the name
The key distinction for me is that forum code is not something we ship
in Apache products - it's merely a tool we use to serve content.
Much like we can use GPL compilers, we can use GPL website serving
software to serve our websites if we like. We just can't put it in the
actual products
On Tue, 6 Sep 2011 10:10:53 -0400
Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote:
snip
Given that, would you then agree that an admin (as a committer) should
also be approved by the PPMC? But if you agree with that, then what
about the current ability for a forum admin to assign admin rights to
others?
Hi,
I've been sending this request more than 72 hours ago, but didn't
receive any reply. Is something missing?
Best regards,
Peter
On 03.09.2011 18:26, Peter Junge wrote:
The Apache OpenOffice.org PPMC has reached a lazy consensus to recommend
that the trademark permission be granted to BHV
On Tue, Sep 6, 2011 at 10:43 AM, Peter Junge peter.ju...@gmx.org wrote:
Hi,
I've been sending this request more than 72 hours ago, but didn't receive
any reply. Is something missing?
Monday (yesterday) was a holiday in the USA (Labor Day) so many people
were on holiday, some taking off last
Christian,
What I find awkward around all of these discussions is that there are already
several Apache OOo PPMC members who were and are already administrators and
moderators on the OpenOffice.org forums, and not one of them stood up here, on
ooo-dev, and said so.
It boggles my mind how much
On Tue, 2011-09-06 at 07:56 -0700, Dennis E. Hamilton wrote:
Christian,
What I find awkward around all of these discussions is that there are already
several Apache OOo PPMC members who were and are already administrators and
moderators on the OpenOffice.org forums, and not one of them
As far as point 2, I thought Terry had completed the all of the migration
work and all that was left was to create a final export and cut over the DNS
entries? In my mind, if there is already a lot of content on the MW and the
Apache Foundation allows us to continue to use it, why not?
On Tue,
I've come over from the Open Office authors mailing list and but am finding the
pace of discussion a tad overwhelming. I haven't had time to absorb what's
going on in my own life, let alone on these lists.
I'd like to work on the documentation in spite of the madness in my own life,
but wading
Hi,
Le 6 sept. 11 à 17:29, drew a écrit :
Hagar (leads the global moderator group) has introduced himself,
No, Hagar introduced his pseudo, not himself.
I wonder how we can trust people we don't know the identity ?
Regards,
Eric
--
qɔᴉɹə
Education Project:
On Tue, 06 Sep 2011 11:29:12 -0400
Terry, Zoltan, Khirano, Alexandro, Andreas, David, Ricardo, myself and I
may have missed someone (apologies if I did) - are all members of the
PPMC already if I'm not mistaken, we have all mentioned our involvement
on the forums more then once I believe.
Hi Rob,
Something to remember is that Symphony is only the three main apps.
It does not cover, for example, Base. So even if we did switch to
Symphony docs for the core, we'd still need to find a way to cover the
other pieces.
Does that mean we could have for AOO a commun trunk with
On Tue, Sep 6, 2011 at 11:36 AM, Wanda Phillips wetcoastwri...@me.com wrote:
I've come over from the Open Office authors mailing list and but am finding
the pace of discussion a tad overwhelming. I haven't had time to absorb
what's going on in my own life, let alone on these lists.
I'd like
On Tue, 2011-09-06 at 16:40 +0100, Rory O'Farrell wrote:
On Tue, 06 Sep 2011 11:29:12 -0400
Terry, Zoltan, Khirano, Alexandro, Andreas, David, Ricardo, myself and I
may have missed someone (apologies if I did) - are all members of the
PPMC already if I'm not mistaken, we have all mentioned
On 06/09/2011 15:56, Dennis E. Hamilton wrote:
Christian,
What I find awkward around all of these discussions is that there are already
several Apache OOo PPMC members who were and are already administrators and
moderators on the OpenOffice.org forums, and not one of them stood up here, on
On Tue, Sep 6, 2011 at 11:41 AM, Guy Waterval waterval@gmail.com wrote:
Hi Rob,
Something to remember is that Symphony is only the three main apps.
It does not cover, for example, Base. So even if we did switch to
Symphony docs for the core, we'd still need to find a way to cover the
On Sun, Sep 4, 2011 at 3:02 PM, Pedro F. Giffuni giffu...@tutopia.com wrote:
OpenOffice is probably a special case wrt patents and
that's a special strength behind the Apache License so
I think it's good in case of big contributions (like
IBM's) to have such a document but otherwise I don't
On Tue, 6 Sep 2011 17:36:10 +0200
eric b eric.bach...@free.fr wrote:
Hi,
Le 6 sept. 11 à 17:29, drew a écrit :
Hagar (leads the global moderator group) has introduced himself,
No, Hagar introduced his pseudo, not himself.
I wonder how we can trust people we don't know the
On Tue, 06 Sep 2011 11:46:04 -0400
drew d...@baseanswers.com wrote:
On Tue, 2011-09-06 at 16:40 +0100, Rory O'Farrell wrote:
On Tue, 06 Sep 2011 11:29:12 -0400
Terry, Zoltan, Khirano, Alexandro, Andreas, David, Ricardo, myself and I
may have missed someone (apologies if I did) - are all
On Tue, Sep 6, 2011 at 11:41 AM, David McKay dmc...@btconnect.com wrote:
On 06/09/2011 15:56, Dennis E. Hamilton wrote:
Christian,
What I find awkward around all of these discussions is that there are
already several Apache OOo PPMC members who were and are already
administrators and
I'm all for creating a separated documentation list.. I suppose using the
[DOC] subject tag on this list would work as well, but then again you have
to remember to use it..
On Tue, Sep 6, 2011 at 10:44 AM, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote:
On Tue, Sep 6, 2011 at 11:36 AM, Wanda Phillips
On Sep 6, 2011, at 8:29 AM, drew wrote:
On Tue, 2011-09-06 at 07:56 -0700, Dennis E. Hamilton wrote:
Christian,
What I find awkward around all of these discussions is that there are
already several Apache OOo PPMC members who were and are already
administrators and moderators on the
Joe, I think, as Shane mentions, that there are two problems.
The first is that we no longer have any resource stepping-forward, so far, to
complete the migration of the forum operation onto Apache infrastructure. So
it may become irrelevant what governance accommodation is possible.
The
Hi,
Le 6 sept. 11 à 17:52, Rory O'Farrell a écrit :
No, Hagar introduced his pseudo, not himself.
I wonder how we can trust people we don't know the identity ?
With respect, who he says he is,or who you say you are, is
irrelevant; what is relevant is that he appears regularly, with
On Tue, 2011-09-06 at 11:57 -0400, Rob Weir wrote:
On Tue, Sep 6, 2011 at 11:41 AM, David McKay dmc...@btconnect.com wrote:
On 06/09/2011 15:56, Dennis E. Hamilton wrote:
Christian,
What I find awkward around all of these discussions is that there are
already several Apache OOo PPMC
I agree with Ricardo,
To me, don't seem very nice how some people have helped Terry to carry
on his effort to do the transition, and keep the relation with the forum
and their members. I would prefer to feel not like an unwelcome guest
for them.
Some questions in the air:
-Can have the forum a
Yes, thanks Rob, the emails sort of get filtered on my iPad version of an
e-mail reader. Sometimes just figuring out which thread I should be trying to
follow has been difficult. I really didn't get what a ballyhoo this move meant.
I've just started a new job, so the combination of changes are
On Tue, Sep 6, 2011 at 11:49 AM, Donald Whytock dwhyt...@gmail.com wrote:
On Sun, Sep 4, 2011 at 3:02 PM, Pedro F. Giffuni giffu...@tutopia.com wrote:
OpenOffice is probably a special case wrt patents and
that's a special strength behind the Apache License so
I think it's good in case of big
Hi,
And now for something completely different: CODE
As lined out in
Message-ID: 20110831191817.gf29...@kulungile.erack.de
http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-ooo-dev/201108.mbox/%3c20110831191817.gf29...@kulungile.erack.de%3E
there are 2 possible approaches to integrate pending
Congratulations on the new job, Wanda.
I think a documentation team list would be a good idea as well, as it would
be far easier to filter by sent_to than by topic or content.
-Wolf
On Tue, Sep 6, 2011 at 12:26 PM, Wanda Phillips wetcoastwri...@me.comwrote:
Yes, thanks Rob, the emails sort of
Dennis,
not commenting all of your e-mail, you speak out what I have observed.
I now heard very often there is no rush in this discussion but
actually there is rush. As you said:
The second is that the Forum operators may be losing faith in Apache.
Yesterday, it seemed that they were eager
On Tue, Sep 6, 2011 at 7:59 AM, Marc-Oliver Straub
openoff...@sb-software.de wrote:
As preparation for tomorrow, how will we deal with bugs found during the
Linux builds? Tag them in the issue tracker? Post them on the mailing list
only?
Since we will have (hopefully) new people participating
My apologies David,
I looked you up on the PPMC list when I saw, yesterday that you said you were a
moderator, but I must have overlooked earlier statements that you were a
moderator there (possibly not realizing how significant that was to become for
the current discussion).
So the fault is
I think this thread was split off in response to Eric wanting to know Hagar's
real name. It doesn't matter what that question was about.
There was, however, a nice post and new thread providing an interesting
situation with pseudonyms being used by folks who have registered iCLAs and who
My understanding that it really is a test build and it has *not* been
maintained in synchronization with the OpenOffice.org operating version. So if
that system started to be used as a production instance separate from
OpenOffice.org, it would be a fork and there would be some issues with
Somehow, it did not sink in that you were part of the folk that have
administrative functions already. Especially when Terry was inviting PPMC
members to come over.
I grant you that he meant people who were taking positions about the forums
without having been there to observe all that even
Things appear to be quite heated surrounding the forum transition area and I
fear this is ultimately going to rip apart a very strong existing portion of
the OOo community if it continues on the path its going. I thought a big
part of the Apache way is building and sustaining a community
MiguelAngel,
Welcome to the discussion.
On Sep 6, 2011, at 9:24 AM, MiguelAngel wrote:
I agree with Ricardo,
To me, don't seem very nice how some people have helped Terry to carry
on his effort to do the transition, and keep the relation with the forum
and their members. I would prefer to
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