On 28 September 2011 16:51, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote:
On Wed, Sep 28, 2011 at 11:30 AM, Ian Lynch ianrly...@gmail.com wrote:
If TDF wants to take the AOOo source code and build it, with or
without enhancements, and release it under the name LibreOffice for
use with Linux distros,
Kay,
Can you supply an update to whatever is going on on this wiki page?
https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/Community+Forums
This page looks like an technical overview of running the forum. I am
not sure a status information would fit there. Anyway, here is some
more info,
On Thu, 29 Sep 2011 10:00:04 +0200
Christian Grobmeier grobme...@gmail.com wrote:
snipped - synopsis of the proposed move of forums to Apache
It is is still a confusing situation, and we finally started a draft
of the necessary changes:
Op 29-9-2011 10:54, Rory O'Farrell schreef:
On Thu, 29 Sep 2011 10:00:04 +0200
Christian Grobmeiergrobme...@gmail.com wrote:
snipped - synopsis of the proposed move of forums to Apache
It is is still a confusing situation, and we finally started a draft
of the necessary changes:
+1.
Add that the discussion could continue on
https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/Changes+integrate+the+forums+into+the+AOOo+project
but it doesn't. Why? Is there something wrong with how I expressed myself
there?
I had a bunch of stuff on my desk I needed to work on, so I
Hi,
thanks for details on ODMA and the made research on the current source code.
I have figured out that the complete ODMA stuff in our source code is
not part of the build and thus, not part of an installation set - the
source folder /ucb/source/ucp/odma is not built.
I did some research in
On 9/27/2011 20:37, TJ Frazier wrote:
On 9/27/2011 17:03, Rob Weir wrote:
snip
I'm assuming this is the link:
http://ooo-wiki.apache.org/wiki/Wiki/statistics
That should be a good assumption, but no. It's busted. I'll fix it.
Meanwhile, you can see it on the main page of the live wiki:
Dave, several small points:
* I have Bureaucrat and Administrator rights on the Mwiki copy. Email me
(on ooo-dev or privately) to activate an existing account, or set up a
new one. Anyone should be able to access the copy in read-only mode.
http://ooo-wiki.apache.org/
* To establish a Roller
Hi,
I would like to add something to what Jean-Philippe Mengual already wrote.
I am involved in the development of a few
OpenOffice.org extensions that are related to
accessibility: an extension that exports ODT to
digital talking books in the DAISY format
(odt2daisy on SourceForge), an
On Thu, Sep 29, 2011 at 1:53 AM, Dennis E. Hamilton
dennis.hamil...@acm.org wrote:
Let me recall the bidding a little here. What I said was
It is unlikely that machine-generated files of any kind are copyrightable
subject matter.
You point out that computer-generated files might
On Thu, Sep 29, 2011 at 5:59 AM, Oliver-Rainer Wittmann
orwittm...@googlemail.com wrote:
Hi,
the low-hanging fruits are hanging quite high ;-)
Thus, as given at [1], we can get file ksc5601.h from [2] under a Apache
permissive license.
Unfortunately, the provided file [3] does not contain a
On 29.09.2011 15:15, Rob Weir wrote:
On Thu, Sep 29, 2011 at 5:59 AM, Oliver-Rainer Wittmann
orwittm...@googlemail.com wrote:
Hi,
the low-hanging fruits are hanging quite high ;-)
Thus, as given at [1], we can get file ksc5601.h from [2] under a Apache
permissive license.
Unfortunately,
I WENT TOO FAR. (I am changing the thread because a lot of this is not
relevant to IP review. I think the conclusion C is all that matters with regard
to copyright and copyright-based licenses.)
My comment about binaries is completely off the mark. Ever since software was
made copyrightable
On Sep 29, 2011, at 6:58 AM, TJ Frazier wrote:
On 9/29/2011 09:41, Rob Weir wrote:
On Thu, Sep 29, 2011 at 6:05 AM, TJ Fraziertjfraz...@cfl.rr.com wrote:
Dave, several small points:
* I have Bureaucrat and Administrator rights on the Mwiki copy. Email me (on
ooo-dev or privately) to
On 09/29/2011 01:00 AM, Christian Grobmeier wrote:
Kay,
Can you supply an update to whatever is going on on this wiki page?
https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/Community+Forums
This page looks like an technical overview of running the forum. I am
not sure a status
Not sure which issue you mean. Are speaking of 4) Work on the
rebranding and other content changes to comply with agreed project
requirements
no...Terry filed an actual JIRA issue on setting this up...
see
https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-3888
but it is now closed
I think
--- On Thu, 9/29/11, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote:
...
OK. So [4] is a permissive license for all files in
the directory.
This may seen odd, coming from the FSF, but they encourage
this is some cases, such as when the code is very small,
or where the code promotes the use of an open
Hi Oliver;
--- On Thu, 9/29/11, Oliver-Rainer Wittmann wrote:
...
Thanks for the input.
Adding the URL for the origin of the copyright and license
text is a good idea. I will add it and use it also to point
to the origin of ksc5601.h.
As Pedro researched the files are also found at
On Thu, Sep 29, 2011 at 12:29 PM, Pedro F. Giffuni giffu...@tutopia.com wrote:
Hi Oliver;
--- On Thu, 9/29/11, Oliver-Rainer Wittmann wrote:
...
Thanks for the input.
Adding the URL for the origin of the copyright and license
text is a good idea. I will add it and use it also to point
to
A recent press article suggested that this project had not had any new
committers since the project started. This is false. But it would be
hard to tell that, looking at our mailing list or website.
So far we've been quiet about new committers. We have the votes,
process the paper work, etc.,
On Thu, Sep 29, 2011 at 12:59 PM, Dave Fisher dave2w...@comcast.net wrote:
On Sep 29, 2011, at 1:54 AM, Rory O'Farrell wrote:
On Thu, 29 Sep 2011 10:00:04 +0200
Christian Grobmeier grobme...@gmail.com wrote:
snipped - synopsis of the proposed move of forums to Apache
It is is still a
On Thu, Sep 29, 2011 at 5:33 AM, TJ Frazier tjfraz...@cfl.rr.com wrote:
On 9/27/2011 20:37, TJ Frazier wrote:
On 9/27/2011 17:03, Rob Weir wrote:
snip
I'm assuming this is the link:
http://ooo-wiki.apache.org/wiki/Wiki/statistics
That should be a good assumption, but no. It's busted.
Perhaps instead of announcements of new committers, announcements of
actual commits (more than just one) from somebody who hasn't committed
earlier would be interesting...
--tml
On Thu, Sep 29, 2011 at 1:55 PM, Ross Gardler
rgard...@opendirective.com wrote:
Sent from my mobile device, please forgive errors and brevity.
On Sep 29, 2011 6:01 PM, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote:
A recent press article suggested that this project had not had any new
committers since
On Thu, Sep 29, 2011 at 1:57 PM, Donald Whytock dwhyt...@gmail.com wrote:
Looking at the AOO people page
(http://incubator.apache.org/openofficeorg/people.html) I see some of
our contributors. Is this a list of committers? If so, perhaps new
committers can be announced along the lines of,
On 28.09.2011 00:49, Michael Stahl wrote:
On 27.09.2011 22:22, Rob Weir wrote:
On Tue, Sep 27, 2011 at 4:08 PM, Dennis E. Hamilton
dennis.hamil...@acm.org wrote:
What is the oldest Windows OS version that Apache OOo 3.4(-dev) will
be supported on? How does that compare with the oldest
On 28.09.2011 21:03, Marcus (OOo) wrote:
Yes, and as long as there are no real technical problems I don't see a
need to drop the support.
Indeed, and AFAIR dropping the support for any OS versions always was
technically motivated at OOo. Of course technical motivations are
debatable.
On Thu, Sep 29, 2011 at 8:14 PM, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote:
The authoritative list of committers is here:
http://incubator.apache.org/projects/openofficeorg.html
That has been silently updated as new committers have been elected.
It is always good to know this page:
On Thu, Sep 29, 2011 at 7:55 PM, Ross Gardler
rgard...@opendirective.com wrote:
Sent from my mobile device, please forgive errors and brevity.
On Sep 29, 2011 6:01 PM, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote:
Some Apache projects announce each new committer to their main mailing
list. Others don't.
Hi Mark,
I suspect that the copy of this email to ooo-dev is caught in moderation. Since
I am subscribed I'll forward this.
FWIW - the BZ instance at issues.apache.org/ooo is an upgraded and migrated
version of the bugzilla that Oracle hosts (which should now be read-only.) It
is not
+1
but with reference to the list that indicates a committer who
has been authorized for this project. That is the one Christian
provided,
http://people.apache.org/committers-by-project.html#ooo.
This list is useful to verify that committers are established and
authorized in the system to
Am 29.09.2011 11:28, schrieb Oliver-Rainer Wittmann:
Hi,
thanks for details on ODMA and the made research on the current
source code.
I have figured out that the complete ODMA stuff in our source code is
not part of the build and thus, not part of an installation set -
the source
Am 29.09.2011 20:17, schrieb Mathias Bauer:
On 28.09.2011 00:49, Michael Stahl wrote:
On 27.09.2011 22:22, Rob Weir wrote:
On Tue, Sep 27, 2011 at 4:08 PM, Dennis E. Hamilton
dennis.hamil...@acm.org wrote:
What is the oldest Windows OS version that Apache OOo 3.4(-dev) will
be supported
On 29 September 2011 20:16, Ross Gardler rgard...@opendirective.com wrote:
On 29 September 2011 19:03, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote:
On Thu, Sep 29, 2011 at 1:55 PM, Ross Gardler
rgard...@opendirective.com wrote:
Sent from my mobile device, please forgive errors and brevity.
On Sep 29,
-1
Not all committers make contributions to the code base.
it is emphasized here in other discussions that committers need not
be developers but contributors in some other way. See the discussion
about Forums administration, for example. Commit messages are an
unreliable indicator as Ross
Well ...
Maybe committers can discretely start using their
@Apache email addresses without making huge
announcements. ;)
Pedro.
--- On Thu, 9/29/11, Dennis E. Hamilton wrote:
-1
Not all committers make contributions to the code base.
it is emphasized here in other discussions that
On Sep 29, 2011, at 12:14 PM, Dennis E. Hamilton wrote:
+1
but with reference to the list that indicates a committer who
has been authorized for this project. That is the one Christian
provided,
http://people.apache.org/committers-by-project.html#ooo.
I have added this link the
Yes, that might work ... [;).
-Original Message-
From: Pedro Giffuni [mailto:p...@apache.org]
Sent: Thursday, September 29, 2011 12:49
To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org; dennis.hamil...@acm.org
Subject: RE: How do we want to announce new Committers/PPMC members
Well ...
Maybe committers
But, evidently, not all of the mentors appear on the ooo committers list. (I
found two absent immediately.) That has to be researched further.
- Dennis
-Original Message-
From: Christian Grobmeier [mailto:grobme...@gmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, September 29, 2011 12:55
To:
I don't believe there is anything in the information provided to new committers
that they should do such a thing.
- Dennis
-Original Message-
From: Dave Fisher [mailto:dave2w...@comcast.net]
Sent: Thursday, September 29, 2011 12:50
To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org
Subject: Re: How do
The entries in bold identify some who might (also) be
mentors/ASF Members.
Bold identifies ASF members. Not every member listed is a Mentor. I think
though you have to be a Member to be a Mentor although I could be wrong about
that.
You don't need to be a Member to become a Mentor - the
On Sep 29, 2011, at 1:15 PM, Dennis E. Hamilton wrote:
I don't believe there is anything in the information provided to new
committers that they should do such a thing.
I think it was discussed, but then it wasn't mentioned in your docs. I think It
would be good to start suggesting it...
On 9/29/2011 15:51, Raphael Bircher wrote:
Am 29.09.11 21:01, schrieb Dave Fisher:
Hi Mark,
I suspect that the copy of this email to ooo-dev is caught in
moderation. Since I am subscribed I'll forward this.
FWIW - the BZ instance at issues.apache.org/ooo is an upgraded and
migrated version of
Am 29.09.11 21:01, schrieb Dave Fisher:
Hi Mark,
I suspect that the copy of this email to ooo-dev is caught in moderation. Since
I am subscribed I'll forward this.
FWIW - the BZ instance at issues.apache.org/ooo is an upgraded and migrated
version of the bugzilla that Oracle hosts (which
Am 09/29/2011 09:16 PM, schrieb Mathias Bauer:
Am 29.09.2011 20:17, schrieb Mathias Bauer:
On 28.09.2011 00:49, Michael Stahl wrote:
On 27.09.2011 22:22, Rob Weir wrote:
On Tue, Sep 27, 2011 at 4:08 PM, Dennis E. Hamilton
dennis.hamil...@acm.org wrote:
What is the oldest Windows OS
Well, the committer intake process has changed and now the checkpoint where I
provide follow-up about them now being activated for the podling (and PPMC if
applicable) has sort of disappeared. I will have to figure out how to
reconstitute the welcome-wagon process. It won't happen overnight.
Am 29.09.11 22:32, schrieb TJ Frazier:
On 9/29/2011 15:51, Raphael Bircher wrote:
Am 29.09.11 21:01, schrieb Dave Fisher:
Hi Mark,
I suspect that the copy of this email to ooo-dev is caught in
moderation. Since I am subscribed I'll forward this.
FWIW - the BZ instance at
Alexandro--
The initial load was sometime in Aug -- I just looked this up but now
don't remember the EXACT date, no one has access (old accounts do not
work and new ones can't be created as near as I can tell). We are now,
with Terry's leaving, JUST now getting back to the wiki
Raphael,
I think you will need to reply to the OP on us...@openoffice.org as he is not
subscribed to ooo-dev and his original email was bounced.
Regards,
Dave
On Sep 29, 2011, at 2:07 PM, Raphael Bircher wrote:
Am 29.09.11 22:32, schrieb TJ Frazier:
On 9/29/2011 15:51, Raphael Bircher
Am 30.09.11 00:57, schrieb Dave Fisher:
Raphael,
I think you will need to reply to the OP on us...@openoffice.org as he is not
subscribed to ooo-dev and his original email was bounced.
I added the users, the mail is in Moderation.
Regards,
Dave
On Sep 29, 2011, at 2:07 PM, Raphael Bircher
On Thu, Sep 29, 2011 at 5:48 PM, Kay Schenk kay.sch...@gmail.com wrote:
Alexandro--
The initial load was sometime in Aug -- I just looked this up but now don't
remember the EXACT date, no one has access (old accounts do not work and new
ones can't be created as near as I can tell). We are
On 29 September 2011 21:15, Dennis E. Hamilton dennis.hamil...@acm.org wrote:
But, evidently, not all of the mentors appear on the ooo committers list. (I
found two absent immediately.) That has to be researched further.
Mentors are not necessarily committers. Committership needs to be
OK, I'll put a request in to Infrastructure. But first let's see if we have a
batch of accounts to create.
Do any other committers or PPMC members request an Apache Blog account?
Regards,
Dave
On Sep 29, 2011, at 12:40 AM, Jürgen Schmidt wrote:
On Wed, Sep 28, 2011 at 8:18 PM, Dave Fisher
A small number of us agreed to be editors for the blog. Now I wonder if that
is an empty occupation, no different from being an author?
- Dennis
-Original Message-
From: Dave Fisher [mailto:dave2w...@comcast.net]
Sent: Thursday, September 29, 2011 17:03
To:
On Sep 29, 2011, at 5:24 PM, Dennis E. Hamilton wrote:
A small number of us agreed to be editors for the blog. Now I wonder if that
is an empty occupation, no different from being an author?
Editor/author same thing. You have your id and are permissioned in Roller with
Author rights. When
It has been the practice, thus far, that all newly-invited committers are
invited to also be on the Podling Project Management Committee (PPMC). Some
decline being on the PPMC, some accept, some accept but don't actually show up
at the PPMC, etc.
A question was raised at the PPMC whether that
Thanks Dave,
That clears up a lot. I see no reason to have the limited rights case. The
practice is to post-date the blog entry and allow it to be reviewed before it
surfaces, so that should work fine for all authors.
- Dennis
-Original Message-
From: Dave Fisher
On Thu, Sep 29, 2011 at 9:09 PM, Dennis E. Hamilton orc...@apache.org wrote:
It has been the practice, thus far, that all newly-invited committers are
invited to also be on the Podling Project Management Committee (PPMC). Some
decline being on the PPMC, some accept, some accept but don't
Oliver-Rainer;
I looked at the files: the GPL'd file has
only two records and the names don't match the
ones in the XFree86 file.
We shouldn't rename anything in the header, but
change the sources instead. It's not difficult
because both names appear only on hcode.cpp.
cheers,
Pedro.
--- On
Indeed the ODMA content provider was never built in a regular build. The
project could be built manually, in case someone wanted to test or use
it. In fact it never was more than a nice try.
As I think I already told on this list in some other thread related to
ODMA, over at go-oo we did build
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