RE: [Proposal] Shutting down legacy OOo mailing lists

On Wed, Oct 19, 2011 at 2:54 PM, Dennis E. Hamilton wrote: > My concern for this proposal is that it doesn't involve engaging any of the > OpenOffice.org community, it simply tells them a two-week-out date where > something will happen and there is no opportunity for dialog. > I

RE: [Proposal] Shutting down legacy OOo mailing lists

FWIW, I'm only looking at "community" discussion lists. I'm not touching any uni-directional "utility" lists, like ones that echo bug reports, commit notifications, etc. Good point. Those are already replaced by others with equivalent function with regard to Apache OpenOffice.org.

RE: [SPAM] Re: [Proposal] Shutting down legacy OOo mailing lists

carried out. - Dennis -Original Message- From: Rob Weir [mailto:robw...@apache.org] Sent: Wednesday, October 19, 2011 13:01 To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org Subject: Re: [SPAM] Re: [Proposal] Shutting down legacy OOo mailing lists On Wed, Oct 19, 2011 at 3:45 PM, Dennis E. Hamilton wrote

RE: [Proposal] Shutting down legacy OOo mailing lists

Andrea, Splendido! Piacere! +1 That's wonderful. Can you assist us in connecting with other Native Language List (NL-list) moderators and enlisting them in providing similar support for their communities of users? - Dennis -Original Message- From: Andrea Pescetti [mailto:pesce...@o

RE: [SPAM] Re: [Proposal] Shutting down legacy OOo mailing lists

Message- From: John Boyle [mailto:jbo...@harbornet.com] Sent: Wednesday, October 19, 2011 13:33 To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org Subject: Re: [SPAM] Re: [Proposal] Shutting down legacy OOo mailing lists On 10/19/2011 12:21 PM, Rob Weir wrote: > On Wed, Oct 19, 2011 at 2:54 PM, Dennis E. Hamil

RE: Neutral / shared security list ...

It is a little difficult to figure out where to reply on this thread, but I am mostly aligned with Shane and the response from Simon. THE PRESENT STATE OF AFFAIRS First, since the earlier conversation and the exchange that Michael Meeks mentions in his restart of this thread today, Martin Hollm

RE: Neutral / shared security list ...

day, October 19, 2011 16:19 To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org; orc...@apache.org Cc: Michael Meeks Subject: Re: Neutral / shared security list ... On Wed, Oct 19, 2011 at 10:56 PM, Dennis E. Hamilton wrote: If securityteam@ OO.o is preserved, I believe the oversight of security@ > apache.org and the c

Mailing List Subscription Attempts

x27;t change my top-posting, though.) -Original Message- From: John Boyle [mailto:jbo...@harbornet.com] Sent: Wednesday, October 19, 2011 16:06 To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org Subject: Re: [Proposal] Shutting down legacy OOo mailing lists On 10/19/2011 2:04 PM, Dennis E. Hamilton

RE: [documentation-dev] Fwd: openoffice user guide for students

r forwarding this TJ. It raises some issues that need to be dealt with here and some noodling in advance is called for. - Dennis E. Hamilton tools for document interoperability, <http://nfoWorks.org/> dennis.hamil...@acm.org gsm: +1-206-779-9430 @orcmid -Original Messag

[DISCUSS][RESULT] When Is a PPMC Invitee a PPMC Member?

This discussion has been quiet, well past the stated completion time. I take this as the acceptable working approach in situations where it needs to be known that someone is established on the PPMC (or not). - Dennis E. Hamilton tools for document interoperability, <http://nfoWorks.

RE: Is the JRE license OK for inclusing in AOO?

The Sun/Oracle OO.o distributions satisfy the requirements for installation on Microsoft Windows. The LO distributions do as well. Of course, including JVM in Sun/Oracle distributions was a no-brainer. Since these are distributed in binary form only and the appropriate NOTICE information (for

RE: [Proposal] Shutting down legacy OOo mailing lists

The moderator-issued subscription e-mail seems useful, especially because it is done as an opt-in (requiring confirmation from the recipient). If the list to be retired was informed of this process, its near-automatic operation could be considered. - Dennis THINKING OUT LOUD With regard to

RE: [Proposal] Shutting down legacy OOo mailing lists

y OOo mailing lists On Thu, Oct 20, 2011 at 12:23 PM, Dennis E. Hamilton wrote: > The moderator-issued subscription e-mail seems useful, especially because it > is done as an opt-in (requiring confirmation from the recipient). If the > list > to be retired was informed of this

RE: [Proposal] Shutting down legacy OOo mailing lists

org Subject: Re: [Proposal] Shutting down legacy OOo mailing lists On Thu, Oct 20, 2011 at 1:14 PM, Dennis E. Hamilton wrote: > Rob, > > As were you, I was looking at the value of the ezmlm confirmation e-mail and > its opt-in requirement for moderator-initiated subscriptions. It seemed t

[DISCUSS] Bugzilla Admin (was RE: Bugzilla notifications not going to an ASF mailing list)

I believe the next-action on administration of the ooo-bz is ours. It looks like there need to be some @apache.org administrators, and the hierarchy of administration with respect to the various categories also needs to be dealt with. >From the list that Mark Thomas provided, I only see 2 apac

RE: [DISCUSS] Bugzilla Admin (was RE: Bugzilla notifications not going to an ASF mailing list)

ator.apache.org Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] Bugzilla Admin (was RE: Bugzilla notifications not going to an ASF mailing list) On Oct 20, 2011, at 12:20 PM, Dennis E. Hamilton wrote: > I believe the next-action on administration of the ooo-bz is ours. It looks > like there need to be some @apac

RE: Clarification on treatment of "weak copyleft" components

I want to point out another case that I have seen in practice, including in the construction and deployment of binary releases for OpenOffice.org. This discussion may impinge on that practice in terms of how it can be retained in Apache OpenOffice.org binary releases and their deployment. - D

RE: [DISCUSS] Bugzilla Admin (was RE: Bugzilla notifications not going to an ASF mailing list)

ache.org Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] Bugzilla Admin (was RE: Bugzilla notifications not going to an ASF mailing list) On Oct 20, 2011, at 1:08 PM, Dennis E. Hamilton wrote: > I don't understand what this means: > > "I think we need a languages properties file with items like BZ, Forum,

RE: Clarification on treatment of "weak copyleft" components

Well, that will teach me to read the wrong list first. Rob already identified the quasi case, etc., on ooo-dev at least. I hereby cease cross-list posting. -Original Message- From: Dennis E. Hamilton [mailto:orc...@apache.org] Sent: Thursday, October 20, 2011 16:54 To: legal-disc

RE: Clarification on treatment of "weak copyleft" components

rification on treatment of "weak copyleft" components On Thu, Oct 20, 2011 at 7:53 PM, Dennis E. Hamilton wrote: > I want to point out another case that I have seen in practice, including in > the construction and deployment of binary releases for OpenOffice.org. This > d

RE: Google code-in 2011: can we still make it?

Pedro, GCI participation is being discussed on the dev-community list. You should check into that conversation, dev @ community.apache.org with archive at . - Dennis -Original Message- From: Pedro Giffuni [mailto:p...@apache.org

FW: podlings please update your list of mentors

e and I will update the various lists accordingly. For general information: <http://incubator.apache.org/guides/mentor.html> is the guide for podling mentors, <http://incubator.apache.org/guides/ppmc.html#Incubator+ASF+Board+Reports> is the related PPMC guide - Dennis E. Hamilt

RE: [REVIEW] Staged Migration of OO.o domain properties (long)

+1 -Original Message- From: Shane Curcuru [mailto:a...@shanecurcuru.org] Sent: Friday, October 21, 2011 05:46 To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org Subject: Re: [REVIEW] Staged Migration of OO.o domain properties (long) It would be very useful if people interested in the branding aspects of

new committer: Pavel Janík

The Apache OOo PPMC announces the addition of initial committer Pavel Janík: paveljanik @ apache.org. The list of all current podling committers is at: . Committers have a defined rôle in the workings of the Apache Software Foundation:

[DISCUSS] Neutral / shared security list proposal

t is where consensus is required. AOOo ooo-security follows that list, as I described previously. And there appear to be at least three of us from the AOOo PPMC that are individually subscribed. So AOOo representation in the discussion can be assured. What's next? - Dennis E. Hamilt

RE: new committer: Pavel Janík

Janík. On Oct 21, 2011, at 7:45 AM, Dennis E. Hamilton wrote: > The Apache OOo PPMC announces the addition of initial committer > Pavel Janík: paveljanik @ apache.org. Does Pavel's Apache id have an "í" or "i"? You have an "i" here? Regards, Dave

RE: Documention roadmap (was Re: Google code-in 2011: can we still make it?)

Pedro, Yes, GSoC and GCI are different. Also, I don't think it involves adding committers, but it definitely adds work for GCI mentors. In any case, I recommend that you hop onto d...@community.apache.org while there is time to find out what is required and whether ASF will be participating

RE: new committer: Pavel Janík

Correction: Pavel was not an initial committer. (I borrowed the wrong message to use as boilerplate.) Pavel was invited by [VOTE] of the PPMC and his establishment as a committer has been completed. -Original Message- From: Dennis E. Hamilton [mailto:orc...@apache.org] Sent: Friday

RE: [DISCUSS] Neutral / shared security list proposal

proposal Hi Dennis & list, On Fri, 2011-10-21 at 08:11 -0700, Dennis E. Hamilton wrote: > It is not something that can be done unilaterally here on the AOOo podling. > Do you propose that this be discussed at securityteam@ OO.o? It would > seem that is where consensus is required.

RE: [DISCUSS] Neutral / shared security list proposal

l the big questions are handled? > > - Dennis > > -Original Message- > From: Michael Meeks [mailto:michael.me...@suse.com] > Sent: Friday, October 21, 2011 10:07 > To: orc...@apache.org > Cc: 'Simon Phipps'; ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org; lsecurity > Subject: Re:

RE: [DISCUSS] Neutral / shared security list proposal

very dangerous to cross post like this between public and private lists. Let's stop that. Now. -Rob 2011/10/21 Dennis E. Hamilton : > OK, I am going ahead and including securityteam@OO.o in this discussion, then > all of us can see what's being discussed. > > I am add

RE: Disposition of *.services.oo.o

+1 -Original Message- From: TJ Frazier [mailto:tjfraz...@cfl.rr.com] Sent: Friday, October 21, 2011 16:38 To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org Subject: Re: Disposition of *.services.oo.o On 10/21/2011 18:48, Kay Schenk wrote: > > > On 10/21/2011 01:31 PM, TJ Frazier wrote: >> Dave, >> >> I wa

RE: Disposition of *.services.oo.o

) assuming that tarballs of those source trees were captured. - Dennis E. Hamilton tools for document interoperability, <http://nfoWorks.org/> dennis.hamil...@acm.org gsm: +1-206-779-9430 @orcmid -Original Message- From: Marcus (OOo) [mailto:marcus.m...@wtnet.de] Sent:

[VOTE][RESULT] Acceptance of the OpenOffice.org Proposal

d with the OO.o Forum operators along with the impending 2011-10-28 shutdown of the current server that was learned of today. - Dennis E. Hamilton, for the Apache OpenOffice.org PPMC TALLY OF VOTES CAST +1 Dave Barton : bmcs PPMC +1 David Fisher : wave PPMC +1 Wolf Halton : wolfhalton

RE: [VOTE][RESULT] Acceptance of the OpenOffice.org Proposal

That's unfortunate. I took Maho Nakata as showing support for that particular discussion and did not mark it as a vote to record. I failed to consider that he meant to vote on the [VOTE] thread, and I had forgotten that he had not voted there when I was tallying votes. Technically, I cannot ch

RE: [VOTE][RESULT] Acceptance of the OpenOffice.org Proposal

First, no votes that were not on the [VOTE] thread are reflected in the report. The [VOTE] announcement stated that only votes on that one thread would be counted. (I know that got trimmed on various threads, but I can't do anything about that.) I am sorry that two voters placed their votes wh

[DISCUSS] Migration of Forums Recruitment of Operators

[RESULT] Acceptance of the OpenOffice.org Proposal On Sat, Oct 22, 2011 at 10:56 PM, Alexandro Colorado wrote: > On Sat, Oct 22, 2011 at 8:45 PM, Rob Weir wrote: > >> On Sat, Oct 22, 2011 at 12:26 AM, Dennis E. Hamilton >> wrote: >> > The vote to accept the proposal

RE: License implications of build-time or test-time dependencies?

That's about enough for Sunday reading. - Dennis E. Hamilton tools for document interoperability, <http://nfoWorks.org/> dennis.hamil...@acm.org gsm: +1-206-779-9430 @orcmid -Original Message- From: Robert Burrell Donkin [mailto:robertburrelldon...@gmail.co

RE: [proposal] development for the first AOO release

ology Preview" release. It and the second will certainly be ways to bring the QA, localization, and related activities back into action as well. Exciting times ahead! - Dennis E. Hamilton tools for document interoperability, <http://nfoWorks.org/> dennis.hamil...@acm.org

RE: Migration Status Page

Um, I think there is a lot of how to submit a bug, how to find bugzilla information on OO.o that will need to be cleaned up still. - Dennis -Original Message- From: Marcus (OOo) [mailto:marcus.m...@wtnet.de] Sent: Monday, October 24, 2011 13:54 To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org Subject:

RE: Migration Status Page

Also, there is clean-up needed on the AOOo bugzilla instance. Is there a place for issues about that? -Original Message- From: Dennis E. Hamilton [mailto:dennis.hamil...@acm.org] Sent: Monday, October 24, 2011 14:30 To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org Subject: RE: Migration Status Page

RE: Migration Status Page

users in the right direction. If we fill it up with buts and caveats and exceptions, then it will not serve its purpose as a high level overview. -Rob > Regards, > Dave > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Oct 24, 2011, at 2:30 PM, "Dennis E. Hamilton" > wrote: > >

RE: Shutdown of the "download.services.openoffice.org" host and its Mirrorbrain instance

I read somewhere, and I don't know where, that ASF did not want torrents to be used. I'm guessing that the issue is related to ensuring the integrity and authenticity of packaged releases. Of course, one cannot prevent folks from torrenting binaries, but it is not something ASF wanted to seed.

RE: Neutral / shared security list ...

Rob, It is an interesting social observation that distrust is not exemplary of being trustworthy. (Distrust is a kind of permission to be righteously untrustworthy, as is too easily demonstrated in world affairs as well as closer to home in regard to specific events already discussed on this li

RE: Neutral / shared security list ...

Having some lists on Sourceforge makes it clear to me that you don't want to go there. My sourceforge e-mail address, the one associated with the lists, receives an incredible number of bounces of false e-mails allegedly from the list as well as crap sent to the list. It is difficult to avoid

RE: Neutral / shared security list ...

+1 I am very much in support of the view that Dave has evolved in this discussion. The discussion is not about the private security teams each project must have to deal with its security issues and to ensure the secure operation of the dealing with security issues. If there is to be a commun

RE: Draft mailing list notification post

+1 Good eye! [For me, the first problem is to get it all written down. Then the problem is to figure out how to make it the most useful to the reader, ideally by having the biggest questions answered first. For everything but the first part (and sometimes that too), it is useful to have some

RE: Neutral / shared security list ...

Umm, head-slap moment. I happen to be the proud owner of worthiness.org. Truly. It is not hosted, but I have been sitting on the domain name for several years. It was part of my M.Sc in IT project on Open Systems Trustworthiness. I won't go into that here. There is a reasonable capsule

RE: Mailing list user migration: Staging and volunteers

+1 Nice approach. -Original Message- From: Rob Weir [mailto:robw...@apache.org] Sent: Tuesday, October 25, 2011 14:30 To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org Subject: Mailing list user migration: Staging and volunteers A quick summary of where we are, in case you haven't been following the pre

RE: Neutral / shared security list ...

Florian, There is one important concern for a community security list: not all neutral locations are created equal, from a security point of view. There is more required for a security list than for an ordinary mailing list, even a supposedly private mailing list. I don't know what practices

RE: [proposal] Neutral / shared security list ...

Dave, if you are going to do that, just relabeling a thread is not helpful. Please compose a specific concrete proposal under a [DISCUSS], and announce the duration and end-time for a lazy consensus at the top. Give it at least 3 full 24-hour calendar days. I don't have any sense that there is

RE: [proposal] Neutral / shared security list ...

successful conclusion. -Original Message- From: Dennis E. Hamilton [mailto:dennis.hamil...@acm.org] Sent: Tuesday, October 25, 2011 15:45 To: 'ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org' Cc: 'Dave Fisher' Subject: RE: [proposal] Neutral / shared security list ... Dave, if you are go

RE: Neutral / shared security list ...

Andrew, I think part of the confusion is from the discussion leading up to the creation of ooo-security and some related discussion about why securityteam@ was not enough at that time. Without getting into the he-said,she-said part of it, that seems to be the origin. There was more when the TD

RE: [proposal] Neutral / shared security list ...

@incubator.apache.org Subject: Re: [proposal] Neutral / shared security list ... On Oct 25, 2011, at 4:01 PM, Dennis E. Hamilton wrote: > Oh, and the most important part: > > In want way is the AOOo party to the consensus that is reached? That > ooo-security (an agent of the PPMC, essen

RE: [proposal] Neutral / shared security list ...

al] Neutral / shared security list ... On Oct 25, 2011, at 4:05 PM, Rob Weir wrote: > On Tue, Oct 25, 2011 at 7:01 PM, Dennis E. Hamilton > wrote: >> Oh, and the most important part: >> >> In want way is the AOOo party to the consensus that is reached? That >&g

Staging OOo Site: Bugs and Improvements

I've run into some things on the staging site, some from templates/boilerplate, some for other content issues. Do these go into the Bugzilla? I don't feel comfortable mucking around with them directly without someone more expert deciding the course of action. - Dennis -Original Message

RE: Staging OOo Site: Bugs and Improvements

c: dennis.hamil...@acm.org Subject: Re: Staging OOo Site: Bugs and Improvements On Oct 30, 2011, at 8:40 PM, Dave Fisher wrote: > > On Oct 30, 2011, at 8:10 PM, Dennis E. Hamilton wrote: > >> I've run into some things on the staging site, some from >> templates/boil

RE: Need a current build for WinXP 32bit

Regina, I would like to find an already built Win32 WinXP version too. I despair of ever succeeding in building one myself without extensive practice with the tools that I am expected to operate to accomplish that. I don't know how to deal with the ATL dependencies. I thought that it was goi

RE: Staging OOo Site: Bugs and Improvements

taging OOo Site: Bugs and Improvements On 10/31/11 5:55 AM, Dave Fisher wrote: > > On Oct 30, 2011, at 9:37 PM, Dennis E. Hamilton wrote: [ ... ] >> 4. This page, for Downloads, linked from the ES home page, has a PayPal >> button and solicits $25 donations for downloads:< &

RE: Process for deciding on branding strategy for our first release

As far as I can tell, it is a condition of Apache governance that it be done on the list. That is a requirement for how The Apache Way works. It is up to all of us to have it work. I don't believe, however, that ooo-marketing counts as a list where deliberation on matters of the project shoul

RE: Staging OOo Site: Bugs and Improvements

Are you subscribed to ooo-commits? CWiki is just as visible there as BZ. I don't know what you are -1 ing? Regards, Dave On Oct 31, 2011, at 12:18 PM, Dennis E. Hamilton wrote: > +1 > > I agree that the PayPal and other specific donation pages on http:// > *.openoffice.org prop

RE: Staging OOo Site: Bugs and Improvements

al Message- From: TJ Frazier [mailto:tjfraz...@cfl.rr.com] Sent: Monday, October 31, 2011 15:16 To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org Subject: Re: Staging OOo Site: Bugs and Improvements Hi, Dennis, On 10/31/2011 16:13, Dennis E. Hamilton wrote: > Yes, I am subscribed to ooo-commits. Unfortunate

RE: Staging OOo Site: Bugs and Improvements

I meant when Dave is done. -Original Message- From: Dennis E. Hamilton [mailto:dennis.hamil...@acm.org] Sent: Monday, October 31, 2011 15:32 To: 'ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org' Subject: RE: Staging OOo Site: Bugs and Improvements I was talking about the CWiki commit messages

RE: Process for deciding on branding strategy for our first release

sure that eventuality is forestalled. I recommend that a single list be chosen for continuation. At present, instead of providing shelter of the ooo-marketing list from the clutter on ooo-dev, this is either adding clutter to ooo-dev or it really needs to be a [DISCUSS] there. - Dennis E

new committer: T.J. Frazier

The Apache OOo PPMC announces the addition of initial committer T.J. Frazier: Apache ID "tj" The list of all current podling committers is at: . Committers have a defined role in the workings of the Apache Software Foundation:

new committer: Ariel Constenla-Haile

The Apache OOo PPMC announces the addition of committer Ariel Constenla-Haile: Apache ID "arielch" The list of all current podling committers is at: . Committers have a defined role in the workings of the Apache Software Foundation:

[ISSUE] Shut-down of all name@ openoffice.org e-mail addresses

ution. I have an appraisal of the issue. It is something that requires mutual understanding and, out of our mutual attention, the prospect of a workable solution. - Dennis E. Hamilton tools for document interoperability, <http://nfoWorks.org/> dennis.hamil...@acm.org gsm: +1-2

RE: [wiki] Congrats to all on the migration!

I share the congratulations. Also, I want to acknowledge the contribution of Terry Ellison. Although there was an upset, Terry has operated silently to continue some of this work. And, without his initial efforts, none of this would have happened at all. - Dennis E. Hamilton tools for

RE: Process for deciding on branding strategy for our first release

n Tue, Nov 1, 2011 at 11:15 AM, Dennis E. Hamilton wrote: > If every post on this thread is being cross-posted to two lists, why is it > being conducted on two lists? All it does is expose the prospect of the > thread forking between the two lists and turning into a tangled mess. It &

RE: [ISSUE] Shut-down of all name@ openoffice.org e-mail addresses

Tue, Nov 1, 2011 at 1:00 PM, Dennis E. Hamilton wrote: > 2. There is an untested presumption that it is not legal to transfer those > forwarding accounts because of rules about privacy and European trans-national > data-sharing regulations. (I am not an attorney. And I wonder ho

RE: [ISSUE] Shut-down of all name@ openoffice.org e-mail addresses

ISSUE] Shut-down of all name@ openoffice.org e-mail addresses On Tue, Nov 1, 2011 at 1:00 PM, Dennis E. Hamilton wrote: > There are problems concerning migration of yourname@ openoffice.org, > listname@ > openoffice.org, and servicename@ openoffice.org. Consequently, all > yourname@

RE: Process for deciding on branding strategy for our first release

ember 01, 2011 10:26 To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org Subject: Re: Process for deciding on branding strategy for our first release On Tue, Nov 1, 2011 at 1:19 PM, Dennis E. Hamilton wrote: > -1 to a [VOTE] conducted on the ooo-marketing list if it is expected to be a > binding agreement of

RE: Process for deciding on branding strategy for our first release

- From: Rob Weir [mailto:robw...@apache.org] Sent: Tuesday, November 01, 2011 10:39 To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org Subject: Re: Process for deciding on branding strategy for our first release On Tue, Nov 1, 2011 at 1:35 PM, Dennis E. Hamilton wrote: > It does not let the PPMC memb

new committer: Michael Stehmann

The Apache OOo PPMC announces the addition of Initial Committer Michael Stehmann: Apache ID "mikeadvo" The list of all current podling committers is at: . Committers have a defined role in the workings of the Apache Software Foundation:

RE: [ISSUE] Shut-down of all name@ openoffice.org e-mail addresses

Rob speaketh, ... let's admit that almost all of the 500,000 openoffice.org addresses are unused or were created by spammers and have zero relevancy to the project. So, what is "almost all" of 500,000, and how can it be determined? How many are left? It would be more interesting to kn

RE: [ISSUE] Shut-down of all name@ openoffice.org e-mail addresses

There is no reason to issue *more* myname@ openoffice.org registrations, although there does need to be something about how to register on the openoffice.org wiki, forums, etc., in the future. Whatever has already been tolerated as a myname@ openoffice.org e-mail and "myname" User ID is already

RE: [ISSUE] Shut-down of all name@ openoffice.org e-mail addresses

Of course, some proportion of the independently-established wiki and forum accounts specify @openoffice.org addresses as their destinations. - Dennis -Original Message- From: Raphael Bircher [mailto:r.birc...@gmx.ch] Sent: Tuesday, November 01, 2011 12:39 To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.or

RE: Addressbook replacement: CardDAV

Looks interesting. I thought there was a dependency on the Mozilla address book with regard to digital signature certificates as well. Do you happen to know if that is an actual dependency and whether carddav can handle it (private keys especially)? - Dennis E. Hamilton tools for

RE: [ISSUE] Shut-down of all name@ openoffice.org e-mail addresses

re, similarly, listname @oO.o. Mailing lists and their archives are operated in an entirely different way and that is a separate problem, despite certain functional similarities. . /Larry > -Original Message- > From: Dennis E. Hamilton [mailto:orc...@apache.org] <http://mail-ar

RE: [ISSUE] Shut-down of all name@ openoffice.org e-mail addresses

preservation of subscription lists is intended, nor are the archives being preserved by the podling. If some sort of rescue is achieved for (selective) OOo lists, that would be a separate effort and have to be sustained by PPMC resources, as you say. - Dennis E. Hamilton tools for document

RE: [ISSUE] Shut-down of all name@ openoffice.org e-mail addresses

Whoa, now I am really confused. This seems to have gone in the opposite direction than what I thought. First it narrowed down to privileging some small set of BZ users. And then protecting our committers that have @openoffice.org email addresses. Also, I don't think there had been any intentio

RE: [ISSUE] Shut-down of all name@ openoffice.org e-mail addresses

.net] Sent: Tuesday, November 01, 2011 20:35 To: orc...@apache.org Cc: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org; 'Joe Schaefer' Subject: Re: [ISSUE] Shut-down of all name@ openoffice.org e-mail addresses On Nov 1, 2011, at 8:07 PM, Dennis E. Hamilton wrote: > Whoa, now I am really confused. This se

RE: [ISSUE] Shut-down of all name@ openoffice.org e-mail addresses

t in with my (non-binding) suggestions. On 11/2/2011 12:01 AM, Dennis E. Hamilton wrote: > Hi Dave, > > where I am confused is the focus on Mailing-List forwarding rather than E-mail > forwarding. I can't tell what the intended behaviors are. > > Let's get clear: &g

RE: [ISSUE] openoffice.org must have an MTA / MX

one element you dislike and drown out the important positive message. Regards, Dave On Nov 2, 2011, at 10:04 AM, Rob Weir wrote: > On Wed, Nov 2, 2011 at 12:49 PM, Dennis E. Hamilton > wrote: >> Yes, I'll take my badge off and put my pistol in the safe: >> >> Shan

RE: [ISSUE] Shut-down of all name@ openoffice.org e-mail addresses

ru [mailto:a...@shanecurcuru.org] > Sent: Wednesday, November 02, 2011 05:05 > To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org > Subject: Re: [ISSUE] Shut-down of all name@ openoffice.org e-mail addresses > > I'll butt in with my (non-binding) suggestions. > > On 11/2/2011 12:01

RE: [DISCUSS] easier access for N-L sites during staging process

++1 A little tuning, for what it is worth: It is not necessary to subscribe to any of these lists in order to ask for help. They will be moderated in. It might be nice if the mailto: entry specified a subject that would let us know it is from the request link though. That would emphasi

RE: URL redirection lost

site. - Dennis E. Hamilton tools for document interoperability, <http://nfoWorks.org/> dennis.hamil...@acm.org gsm: +1-206-779-9430 @orcmid -Original Message- From: Jean-Paul Chiron [mailto:jpchi...@sud-ouest.org] Sent: Friday, November 04, 2011 09:36 To: o

RE: [DISCUSS] easier access for N-L sites during staging process

during staging process On Thu, Nov 3, 2011 at 4:37 PM, Dennis E. Hamilton wrote: [ ... ] > > Also, ooo-users might be a better target than ooo-dev. > Why? These would be people reporting problems with the staging web site, not the product [ ... ] smime.p7s Description: S/MIME cryp

RE: URL redirection lost

I agree. Using the DNS is too heavy-handed. WARNING, WARNING: another orcmid instant-design effort ahead: What is required is an effective redirect from http://qa.openoffice.org/issues/ to the AOOo BZ instance. The trick is to have whatever rewrite is needed for show_bug.cgi?id=X to map a

RE: URL redirection lost

Subject: Re: URL redirection lost On Fri, Nov 4, 2011 at 3:29 PM, Dennis E. Hamilton wrote: > I agree. Using the DNS is too heavy-handed. > Well I'm glad I asked what I did! see below... > > WARNING, WARNING: another orcmid instant-design effort ahead: > > What is requ

RE: [ISSUE] Shut-down of all name@ openoffice.org e-mail addresses

So, this exceptionalism for "friends for Rob" is being offered, without consideration at all for those friends of OpenOffice.org who have relied on those e-mail forwardings and proudly organized their e-mail existence around that affiliation. This smells a bit like mit.alumni.edu (or whatever t

FW: [libreoffice-users] MS font exploit

at the time that I wrote the following.) -Original Message- From: Dennis E. Hamilton [mailto:dennis.hamil...@acm.org] Sent: Saturday, November 05, 2011 11:19 To: 'us...@global.libreoffice.org' Subject: RE: [libreoffice-users] MS font exploit There are two microsoft.com pages tha

RE: Need a current build for WinXP 32bit

he.org Subject: Re: Need a current build for WinXP 32bit On 31.10.2011 20:18, Dennis E. Hamilton wrote: > Regina, > > I would like to find an already built Win32 WinXP version too. I > despair of ever succeeding in building one myself without extensive > practice with the tools

RE: [ISSUE] Shut-down of all name@ openoffice.org e-mail addresses

I was digging around in my personal way-back machine for where discussion about myname@ openoffice.org had occurred. Something struck me about the magic 500,000 number. When IDs are issued, even if later de-activated, the ID is usually retained to avoid accidental re-issue of it to a different

RE: GPL'd dictionaries (was Re: ftp.services.openoffice.org?)

+1 I heartily agree with Dave's suggestion. The issue has been made very clear by Andrea and I think it would be good to raise an issue on the LEGAL JIRA. (Registration required, but I don't think committer status is needed.) Also, legal-discuss@ apache.org is an useful place, but my experien

RE: Need a current build for WinXP 32bit

nis -Original Message- From: Dennis E. Hamilton [mailto:dennis.hamil...@acm.org] Sent: Sunday, November 06, 2011 11:44 To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org Cc: 'Regina Henschel' Subject: RE: Need a current build for WinXP 32bit Thanks Mathias, I missed your earlier response. I ju

RE: [CODE] issue 118576: Crash on close

I concur on reverting the patch. It would be appropriate for a committer who has not seen the patch to use the bugzilla report to independently derive a fix from the information that isolates the defect, assuming that such details are available. I have the feeling that is not the case, and the

RE: Hunspell dictionaries are not just words lists (+ other matters)

y to literary works (including software but certainly documentation), the conditions on derivative works apply transitively to translations of those licensed works as well. - Dennis E. Hamilton tools for document interoperability, <http://nfoWorks.org/> dennis.hamil...@acm.org gsm: +

RE: The Old OOo Site

Short addition: 1. There are alternatives to using SVN from the command line. I use TortoiseSVN quite happily. 2. Louis is an Apache OO.o incubator committer and can start working at once. 3. I would not consider the old site "dead" but I agree that many changes should be made at our stagi

CWS Availability (was RE: [CODE] issue 118576: Crash on close)

Sent: Tuesday, November 08, 2011 14:40 To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org Subject: Re: [CODE] issue 118576: Crash on close Hi Dennis, Le 8 nov. 11 à 22:45, Dennis E. Hamilton a écrit : > I concur on reverting the patch. Me too : Andre explained everything and convinced me that the issue ne

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