Re: [PROPOSAL] Initiate a Contest for Branding of 4.0

2012-11-04 Thread Graham Lauder
On 10/26/2012 4:36 AM, Graham Lauder wrote: ... The proposal therefore is to initiate a contest to create this new branding, this would have multiple benefits in terms of community outreach, marketing and raising brand awareness. ... Several Apache projects have run logo contests

Re: AOO.Next IBM Priorities

2012-11-01 Thread Graham Lauder
If I didn't know better I'd swear you had been spying on my wishlist. If IBM brought nothing else to the project it's customer focus is hugely valuable. Many thanks Rob, one marketing guy very happy. On 2/11/2012 8:52 AM, robert_w...@us.ibm.com wrote: A quick note, wearing my IBM hat. We

Re: [PROPOSAL] Initiate a Contest for Branding of 4.0

2012-10-29 Thread Graham Lauder
On Mon, Oct 29, 2012 at 11:19 PM, Kevin Grignon kevingrignon...@gmail.comwrote: KG01 - see comments inline. On Oct 27, 2012, at 7:16 PM, Andrea Pescetti pesce...@apache.org wrote: On 26/10/2012 Ian Lynch wrote: I arranged one for the OOo schools mascot ... The winner was clear-cut. A 16

Re: [PROPOSAL] Initiate a Contest for Branding of 4.0

2012-10-26 Thread Graham Lauder
On Friday 26 Oct 2012 11:04:46 Rob Weir wrote: On Fri, Oct 26, 2012 at 4:36 AM, Graham Lauder g.a.lau...@gmail.com wrote: The launch of 4.0 is a unique opportunity in the life of AOO both now and far into the future. The branding needs to position us in the market place, be distinctive

Re: Need new logo for openoffice.apache.org

2012-10-25 Thread Graham Lauder
On Thu, Oct 25, 2012 at 9:46 AM, RGB ES rgb.m...@gmail.com wrote: 2012/10/24 Andrea Pescetti pesce...@apache.org Alexandro Colorado wrote: On 10/23/12, Andrea Pescetti wrote: Exactly. And this means we cannot use Alexandro's SVG since it is not a 100% reproduction of the bitmap by

Re: Need new logo for openoffice.apache.org

2012-10-25 Thread Graham Lauder
On Thu, Oct 25, 2012 at 11:06 PM, Ian Lynch ianrly...@gmail.com wrote: Rob already suggested a competition. I think that is a good idea and I can help organise it but I don't want to put a lot of time into that if it is not going to be considered a likely way forward. Marketing should not

Re: Need new logo for openoffice.apache.org

2012-10-25 Thread Graham Lauder
On Thu, Oct 25, 2012 at 10:36 PM, RGB ES rgb.m...@gmail.com wrote: 2012/10/25 Graham Lauder g.a.lau...@gmail.com On Thu, Oct 25, 2012 at 9:46 AM, RGB ES rgb.m...@gmail.com wrote: Nobody made Michael Acevedo the official artist, but a mailing list vote approved his logo

Re: Need new logo for openoffice.apache.org

2012-10-24 Thread Graham Lauder
On Tue, Oct 23, 2012 at 9:07 PM, Kevin Grignon kevingrignon...@gmail.comwrote: On Tuesday, October 23, 2012, Graham Lauder wrote: On Tue, Oct 23, 2012 at 7:59 PM, Andrea Pescetti pesce...@apache.org javascript:; wrote: Alexandro Colorado wrote: On 10/22/12, Kay Schenk wrote

Re: Need new logo for openoffice.apache.org

2012-10-23 Thread Graham Lauder
On Tue, Oct 23, 2012 at 2:59 PM, Kevin Grignon kevingrignon...@gmail.comwrote: Let's move this insight into the wikis and document. Moving forward, we can prepare a visual identity style guide. I put some material up on the wiki back in January.

Re: Need new logo for openoffice.apache.org

2012-10-23 Thread Graham Lauder
On Tue, Oct 23, 2012 at 7:59 PM, Andrea Pescetti pesce...@apache.orgwrote: Alexandro Colorado wrote: On 10/22/12, Kay Schenk wrote: hmmm...well, OK. I think I remember something like this now. Should we use Alexandro's new one at:

Re: Need new logo for openoffice.apache.org

2012-10-23 Thread Graham Lauder
On Tue, Oct 23, 2012 at 9:07 PM, Kevin Grignon kevingrignon...@gmail.comwrote: On Tuesday, October 23, 2012, Graham Lauder wrote: On Tue, Oct 23, 2012 at 7:59 PM, Andrea Pescetti pesce...@apache.org javascript:; wrote: Alexandro Colorado wrote: On 10/22/12, Kay Schenk wrote

Re: OpenOffice SVG vector graphics

2012-10-08 Thread Graham Lauder
That's not verdana the bowl on the p is the wrong shape. Not sure what it is tho. Searching On 7/10/2012 11:58 PM, Andrea Pescetti pesce...@apache.org wrote: Alexandro Colorado wrote: On Sat, Oct 6, 2012 at 9:18 PM, Alexandro Colorado wrote: Here is the Liberation font with some Condensed

Re: OpenOffice SVG vector graphics

2012-10-08 Thread Graham Lauder
, Graham Lauder g.a.lau...@gmail.com wrote: That's not verdana the bowl on the p is the wrong shape. Not sure what it is tho. Searching Since I dont use windows I dont have verdana on my Linux system so I manually went out and looked and download the Verdana font. If you have a ttf maybe I

Re: OpenOffice SVG vector graphics

2012-10-08 Thread Graham Lauder
wrote: On Mon, Oct 8, 2012 at 2:30 AM, Graham Lauder g.a.lau...@gmail.com wrote: I'm Linux too but I have a win 7 instance on a vm. So I just pulled them across There is a package called installmsfonts in the suse repos. But the font in the logo jpg is definitely not verdana. It looks

Re: OpenOffice SVG vector graphics

2012-10-08 Thread Graham Lauder
Oh and please excuse top posting I'm sending this from my non I-phone Cheers G On 8/10/2012 9:32 PM, Graham Lauder g.a.lau...@gmail.com wrote: It doesn't look like nimbus either the terminal on the f is different. In the logo the terminal is slightly dipped whereas the terminal in the nimbus f

Re: OpenOffice SVG vector graphics

2012-10-06 Thread Graham Lauder
Alexandro Colorado wrote: I upload the OpenOffice SVG logo on pure SVG, still needs some cleanup on the nodes, but this is a 100% SVG logo. The attachment is on the cWiki: https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/download/attachments/27834483/ApacheO penOfficeTM.svg

Re: OpenOffice SVG vector graphics

2012-10-06 Thread Graham Lauder
On 10/6/12, Graham Lauder y...@apache.org wrote: Alexandro Colorado wrote: I upload the OpenOffice SVG logo on pure SVG, still needs some cleanup on the nodes, but this is a 100% SVG logo. The attachment is on the cWiki: https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/download/attachments

Re: OpenOffice SVG vector graphics

2012-10-06 Thread Graham Lauder
On Sat, Oct 6, 2012 at 9:18 PM, Alexandro Colorado j...@oooes.org wrote: On 10/6/12, Graham Lauder y...@apache.org wrote: On 10/6/12, Graham Lauder y...@apache.org wrote: Alexandro Colorado wrote: I upload the OpenOffice SVG logo on pure SVG, still needs some cleanup

Re: OpenOffice SVG vector graphics

2012-10-06 Thread Graham Lauder
- Original Message - ... License? Not really sure how it apply here since is a derivative work but all 3 fonts are OFL OK, that's acceptable. but perhaps you should try Adobe's SourceSansPro? http://blogs.adobe.com/typblography/2012/08/source-sans-pro.html Just

Re: [VOTE] [PMC] Starting Membership for Apache OpenOffice PMC

2012-10-01 Thread Graham Lauder
This is a call for vote on selecting the following list as the starting membership for the Apache OpenOffice PMC, to be listed in the TLP resolution. The voting is for the entire slate as listed. Apache OpenOffice PMC Starting Membership: Andre Fischer (af) Andrea

[UX][DISCUSS]Re: Change of 'soffice' name

2012-09-26 Thread Graham Lauder
There has been issues in installing LibreOffice and OpenOffice basically because they are derived from StarOffice, since the Oracle transfer StarOffice no longer exist however OOo still have it's roots on it's code and libraries. Issues however when trying to have LibreOffice and OpenOffice

Re: [UX] DISCUSS - Survey Tool Recommendation

2012-08-27 Thread Graham Lauder
KG01 - see comments inline On Aug 18, 2012, at 9:34 AM, Graham Lauder y...@apache.org wrote: On 16/08/2012 Rob Weir wrote: On Thu, Aug 16, 2012 at 12:47 AM, Kevin Grignon wrote: I've been looking at various survey tools and would like to recommend that we deploy the open source survey

Re: [DISCUSS]: I would like to propose a new conversion mode parameter

2012-08-20 Thread Graham Lauder
KG01 - see comments inline. On Aug 21, 2012, at 4:18 AM, Marcus (OOo) marcus.m...@wtnet.de wrote: Am 08/20/2012 04:54 PM, schrieb Jürgen Schmidt: OpenOffice is not only used as desktop application but also as hidden part of other software and often as a conversion engine in the backend.

Re: [DISCUSS]: I would like to propose a new conversion mode parameter

2012-08-20 Thread Graham Lauder
, it still relies on OOo code as an ODF editor, LO is still OOo code, if you want to use Xena you can use AOO as it's plugin. Cheers GL 2012/8/21 Graham Lauder y...@apache.org KG01 - see comments inline. On Aug 21, 2012, at 4:18 AM, Marcus (OOo) marcus.m...@wtnet.de

Re: [VOTE] Apache OpenOffice Community Graduation Vote

2012-08-19 Thread Graham Lauder
Per the IPMC's Guide to Successful Graduation [1] this is the optional, but recommended, community vote for us to express our willingness/readiness to govern ourselves. If this vote passes then we continue by drafting a charter, submitting it for IPMC endorsement, and then to the ASF Board

Re: [UX] DISCUSS - Survey Tool Recommendation

2012-08-17 Thread Graham Lauder
On 16/08/2012 Rob Weir wrote: On Thu, Aug 16, 2012 at 12:47 AM, Kevin Grignon wrote: I've been looking at various survey tools and would like to recommend that we deploy the open source survey tool, *LimeSurvey.* Perfect. It is a good tool and it is in continuity with what the project

Re: [UX] DISCUSS - Survey Tool Recommendation

2012-08-17 Thread Graham Lauder
On 16/08/2012 Rob Weir wrote: On Thu, Aug 16, 2012 at 12:47 AM, Kevin Grignon wrote: I've been looking at various survey tools and would like to recommend that we deploy the open source survey tool, *LimeSurvey.* Perfect. It is a good tool and it is in continuity with what the

Re: [DISCUSS] AOO Ready to Graduate

2012-08-17 Thread Graham Lauder
Am Freitag, 17. August 2012 um 17:55 schrieb Rob Weir: We've had several prods from our mentors suggesting that we are ready to graduate. But I think there was general recognition that with graduation comes a little hump in extra work, both for the project as well as the IPMC and Infra,

Re: OO Sold on eBay

2012-08-13 Thread Graham Lauder
On 13 August 2012 01:29, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote: On Sun, Aug 12, 2012 at 5:50 PM, Kay Schenk kay.sch...@gmail.com wrote: On Sun, Aug 12, 2012 at 10:49 AM, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote: On Sun, Aug 12, 2012 at 12:38 PM, Max Merbald max.merb...@gmx.de wrote: Hi, I'd

Re: [PROPOSAL] Create ooo-l...@incubator.apache.org

2012-07-03 Thread Graham Lauder
I suggested this on the list a few weeks ago. I'd like to now move forward with it. +1 to the list and +1 to L10n that is recognised as the dimunition of localisation amongst translators I'll volunteer to be one of the list moderators. But I need 2-3 other committers to volunteer as

Re: [UX][Volunteers Needed] - Harvesting Social Data

2012-06-26 Thread Graham Lauder
KG01 - See comments inline. On Tue, Jun 26, 2012 at 6:11 PM, RGB ES rgb.m...@gmail.com wrote: 2012/6/26 Kevin Grignon kevingrignon...@gmail.com: Hello All, As mentioned in an earlier post, collectively, our social assets present a huge opportunity to engage the AOO

Re: [UX][Volunteers Needed] - Harvesting Social Data

2012-06-26 Thread Graham Lauder
Added one example (and fixed a typo on the table headings) to see how it works. KG01 - Good stuff. Thanks for getting the ball rolling. I think description column should be left aligned, not centred, but other than aligning paragraph one by one I cannot find a way

Re: official logos ???

2012-06-13 Thread Graham Lauder
On 06/13/2012 03:45 PM, Ariel Constenla-Haile wrote: Hi Kay, On Tue, Jun 12, 2012 at 08:48:58AM -0700, Kay Schenk wrote: yeah-- I was definitely thinking of extending the /images/AOO_logos to house JUST the logos... ooo-site/content/images/AOO_logos/svg/OOo_Website_v2_copy.svg is

Re: Another installation annoyance

2012-06-13 Thread Graham Lauder
Greetings Peter, Could you please start a new thread rather than hijacking one with a different topic. Because of the volume of mail on this list it's very easy to miss a message buried a long way down a different topic thread. Cheers GL Who had the brilliant idea of enabling the OO splash

Re: Next steps for Symphony and AOO

2012-06-12 Thread Graham Lauder
As we wait [0] for the Symphony [1] code to be loaded into Subversion I think it would be good to start a discussion on next steps of how we can make best use of this contribution. Hopefully you've had time to review the list of features on the wiki [2], install one of the binaries [3] , or

Re: Next steps for Symphony and AOO

2012-06-12 Thread Graham Lauder
As we wait [0] for the Symphony [1] code to be loaded into Subversion I think it would be good to start a discussion on next steps of how we can make best use of this contribution. Hopefully you've had time to review the list of features on the wiki [2], install one of the binaries [3] , or

Re: Propose to Integrate Old OO Wiki and New AOO Wiki

2012-06-05 Thread Graham Lauder
On 6/5/12 5:11 AM, Kevin Grignon wrote: KG01 - See comments inline. On Tue, Jun 5, 2012 at 10:35 AM, chengjh chen...@apache.org wrote: Hi, We see,the old OpenOffice.org wiki http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Main_Page has accumulated plenty of valuable

Re: [UX] The Questions for users

2012-06-04 Thread Graham Lauder
Hi. Questions relating to research! We aren't in order to adjust. Sorry long text. Legend: - Questions --Response options. *** - How old are you ? - What S.O you use ? --Linux --Mac --Windows --other [what] - Use of Linux ? Wich graphic interface: --GNOME --KDE

Re: [UX] The Questions for users

2012-06-04 Thread Graham Lauder
Hi. Questions relating to research! We aren't in order to adjust. Sorry long text. Legend: - Questions --Response options. *** - How old are you ? - What S.O you use ? --Linux --Mac --Windows --other [what] - Use of Linux ? Wich graphic interface: --GNOME --KDE

Re: [UX] The Questions for users

2012-06-04 Thread Graham Lauder
Hi. Questions relating to research! [] Perhaps the first survey we should conduct is a survey about what sort of surveys our users would respond to. Cheers GL PS I have made a few comments on the wiki page with regard to the questions there. Discussion on Delivery

Re: [UX] The Questions for users

2012-06-04 Thread Graham Lauder
Additional comments inline. See KG02. On Tue, Jun 5, 2012 at 10:49 AM, Kevin Grignon kevingrignon...@gmail.comwrote: KG01 - see comments inline. On Tue, Jun 5, 2012 at 8:26 AM, Graham Lauder y...@apache.org wrote: Hi. Questions relating to research

Re: [UX] The Questions for users

2012-06-04 Thread Graham Lauder
KG01 - see comments inline. On Tue, Jun 5, 2012 at 8:26 AM, Graham Lauder y...@apache.org wrote: Hi. Questions relating to research! [] Perhaps the first survey we should conduct is a survey about what sort of surveys our users would respond to. KG01 - Thanks

Re: LinuxTag 2012 Berlin

2012-05-30 Thread Graham Lauder
Hi, Hi Juergen, Please excuse if this seems a little abrupt, but I want to the message to be precise. last week I gave a talk about OpenOffice on the LinuxTag conference in Berlin. The attendance was moderate and I got the bad first slot in the morning 10:00am after the LinuxTag

Re: LinuxTag 2012 Berlin

2012-05-30 Thread Graham Lauder
On 5/30/12 3:10 PM, Graham Lauder wrote: Hi, Hi Juergen, Please don't see this as a criticism directed at you, this is simply a constructive critique of the content and suggestions for future interactions. Thanks is due for doing the presentation in any case. Please excuse

Re: LinuxTag 2012 Berlin

2012-05-30 Thread Graham Lauder
On Wed, May 30, 2012 at 6:39 PM, Graham Lauder y...@apache.org wrote: On 5/30/12 3:10 PM, Graham Lauder wrote: Hi, Hi Juergen, Please don't see this as a criticism directed at you, this is simply a constructive critique of the content and suggestions for future

Re: [UX] Questions for users

2012-05-23 Thread Graham Lauder
+1 for your thoughts. 2012/5/21 Graham Lauder y...@apache.org Hi. 2012/5/21 Paulo de Souza Lima paulo.s.l...@varekai.org 2012/5/21 Albino Biasutti Neto biasut...@gmail.com Hi. 2012/5/20 Raul Pacheco da Silva raulpachecodasi...@gmail.com Yes

[UX] Symphony UI elements for AOO

2012-05-23 Thread Graham Lauder
As one member of the team, I feel proud that people missed the mail merge feature ^o*...although the code can't be applied to our code base, the design does. We can refer to the best from the design, and improve the mail merge function here. Hi Helen Congratulations and well done, you and

Re: [UX] Questions for users

2012-05-23 Thread Graham Lauder
On Sun, May 20, 2012 at 1:33 PM, Albino Biasutti Neto biasut...@gmail.comwrote: Hi. 2012/5/20 Paulo de Souza Lima paulo.s.l...@varekai.org I think you mean How old are you? =) Sorry, thanks. Maybe we could contribute to improve those questions. My 2 cents: Are

Re: [UX] Questions for users

2012-05-22 Thread Graham Lauder
Hi. 2012/5/21 Graham Lauder y...@apache.org First off we need to figure what we want to learn, just asking random questions is no way to endear us to our users. We used to have a survey that the user connected to when s/he selected I want to register during install. That survey

Re: [UX] Questions for users

2012-05-21 Thread Graham Lauder
Hi. 2012/5/21 Paulo de Souza Lima paulo.s.l...@varekai.org 2012/5/21 Albino Biasutti Neto biasut...@gmail.com Hi. 2012/5/20 Raul Pacheco da Silva raulpachecodasi...@gmail.com Yes, like others softwares and questions in free internet U2es,012/5/20

Re: [ANNOUNCE] IBM SGA/CCLA Submitted for Symphony Source Code Contribution

2012-05-19 Thread Graham Lauder
this please feel free to correct this Cheers GL On Fri, May 18, 2012 at 11:12 AM, Graham Lauder y...@apache.org wrote: Though MDI is not in the current Symphony contributed code, but if people really like it, I suggest we to think about how to make it in AOO, maybe 4.0 or later

Re: [ANNOUNCE] IBM SGA/CCLA Submitted for Symphony Source Code Contribution

2012-05-17 Thread Graham Lauder
Though MDI is not in the current Symphony contributed code, but if people really like it, I suggest we to think about how to make it in AOO, maybe 4.0 or later... - Simon My hands are up for another lover of Symphony's MDI... :) One of the other cool things in Symphony that I would love

Re: [ANNOUNCE] IBM SGA/CCLA Submitted for Symphony Source Code Contribution

2012-05-17 Thread Graham Lauder
On Wed, May 16, 2012 at 5:15 PM, Graham Lauder y...@apache.org wrote: A few minutes ago, I submitted the IBM Software Grant Agreement and Corporate Contributor License Agreement for IBM Lotus Symphony contribution. This action means infra can begin to prepare to receive

Re: [PROPOSAL] AOO logo rebranding...

2012-04-03 Thread Graham Lauder
On 3/31/2012 9:42 AM, Graham Lauder wrote: On 3/31/12 6:02 PM, Kay Schenk wrote: We're getting very close to a 3.4 launch, and the time has come to move forward with a logo rebranidng for at least the user portal web site, http://www.openoffice.org, and possibly the project web site

Re: [PROPOSAL] AOO logo rebranding...

2012-04-01 Thread Graham Lauder
On 3/31/12 6:02 PM, Kay Schenk wrote: We're getting very close to a 3.4 launch, and the time has come to move forward with a logo rebranidng for at least the user portal web site, http://www.openoffice.org, and possibly the project web site as well,

Re: Someone is selling OpenOffice on Ebay....

2012-03-09 Thread Graham Lauder
On Tue, Mar 6, 2012 at 12:57 AM, Graham Lauder g.a.lau...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Mar 6, 2012 at 12:31 AM, cklsynt ckls...@gmail.com wrote: I just thought I should bring this to your attention. http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Office-Suite-Microsoft-Word-Powerpoint-Acce ss- Excel

Re: Someone is selling OpenOffice on Ebay....

2012-03-06 Thread Graham Lauder
On Tue, Mar 6, 2012 at 12:31 AM, cklsynt ckls...@gmail.com wrote: I just thought I should bring this to your attention. http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Office-Suite-Microsoft-Word-Powerpoint-Access- Excel-Compatible-Free-Post-/140624633605?pt=AU_softwarehash=item20bde19f 05 This one is not

Re: Reminder: Not all list posts are from list subscribers

2012-02-16 Thread Graham Lauder
Filtering, or just manual inspection? I use Gmail. Looks like the only allow filtering based on the final delivered-to header, which doesn't help us: http://www.google.com/support/forum/p/gmail/thread?tid=63575fed3f2d2072h l=en Unfortunately you are right, it does only match the

Re: Updates: IBM Lotus Symphony, Apache OpenOffice, IBM Docs and other fun stuff

2012-01-31 Thread Graham Lauder
On Wednesday 01 Feb 2012 01:58:58 Rob Weir wrote: ASF does not fill one critical measure of Corporations: Freely transferrable shares. Apache is an Incorporated Charity. The Profit Motive doesn't come into the equation. That may be a distinction in New Zealand, but it is not in the

Re: Updates: IBM Lotus Symphony, Apache OpenOffice, IBM Docs and other fun stuff

2012-01-30 Thread Graham Lauder
On Friday 27 Jan 2012 04:53:29 Rob Weir wrote: On Wed, Jan 25, 2012 at 3:35 PM, Graham Lauder g.a.lau...@gmail.com wrote: On Thursday 26 Jan 2012 02:50:20 Rob Weir wrote: On Wed, Jan 25, 2012 at 7:08 AM, Graham Lauder g.a.lau...@gmail.com wrote: Second, new features and function, worthy

Re: Updates: IBM Lotus Symphony, Apache OpenOffice, IBM Docs and other fun stuff

2012-01-25 Thread Graham Lauder
On Friday 20 Jan 2012 09:24:44 Donald Harbison wrote: Sorry this took so long to reply to, I've been busy. (Wearing IBM Hat) (Warning - long post ) Warning longer post! :) Here's an update on what was communicated this week at the annual Lotusphere event in Orlando, Florida. I hope

Re: Updates: IBM Lotus Symphony, Apache OpenOffice, IBM Docs and other fun stuff

2012-01-25 Thread Graham Lauder
On Thursday 26 Jan 2012 02:50:20 Rob Weir wrote: On Wed, Jan 25, 2012 at 7:08 AM, Graham Lauder g.a.lau...@gmail.com wrote: Second, new features and function, worthy of consideration by this community as a 'Apache OpenOffice 4.0' release will be the primary focus for the IBM volunteers

Re: Moving ahead with the AOO logo and rebranding

2012-01-13 Thread Graham Lauder
On Friday 13 Jan 2012 17:50:49 Michael Acevedo wrote: Hi again! I added more logo proposals since my last post in this mailing list. Let me know what you think... The logo font is Verdana and uses the seagull orb as the principal part of the branding... On Fri, Jan 6, 2012 at 12:21 AM,

Brand Usage Guidelines: Hands Off management (Was: May I use OpenOffice.org and Apache Incubator logos on OpenOffice.org CD)

2012-01-13 Thread Graham Lauder
On Friday 13 Jan 2012 00:38:44 Rob Weir wrote: On Thu, Jan 12, 2012 at 5:55 AM, Graham Lauder g.a.lau...@gmail.com wrote: On Thursday 12 Jan 2012 12:26:59 Rob Weir wrote: Lets stick with CTR, one thing that history has shown us is that there are a lot of eyes out there, if someone

Re: May I use OpenOffice.org and Apache Incubator logos on OpenOffice.org CD

2012-01-12 Thread Graham Lauder
On Thursday 12 Jan 2012 12:26:59 Rob Weir wrote: On Wed, Jan 11, 2012 at 5:35 PM, Andrea Pescetti pesce...@apache.org wrote: Rob Weir wrote: On Wed, Jan 11, 2012 at 9:58 AM, Kazunari Hirano wrote: May I use OpenOffice.org and Apache Incubator logos on OpenOffice.org CD?... As we've

Re: Moving ahead with the AOO logo and rebranding

2012-01-09 Thread Graham Lauder
On Monday 09 Jan 2012 17:57:55 Pedro Giffuni wrote: Thanks Graham! --- Dom 8/1/12, Graham Lauder g.a.lau...@gmail.com ha scritto: ... I'm not sure any of these are killer objections to the use of a commercial font. But I think we'd want a strong design reason for not using a font

Re: Moving ahead with the AOO logo and rebranding

2012-01-09 Thread Graham Lauder
On Monday 09 Jan 2012 05:22:11 Rob Weir wrote: On Sun, Jan 8, 2012 at 9:09 AM, drew d...@baseanswers.com wrote: On Mon, 2012-01-09 at 03:55 +1300, Graham Lauder wrote: On Wednesday 04 Jan 2012 11:14:53 Rob Weir wrote: On Tue, Jan 3, 2012 at 4:52 PM, Pedro Giffuni p...@apache.org wrote

Re: Moving ahead with the AOO logo and rebranding

2012-01-09 Thread Graham Lauder
On Tuesday 10 Jan 2012 13:14:27 Dave Fisher wrote: On Jan 9, 2012, at 3:56 PM, Christian Lohmaier wrote: Hi *, On Mon, Jan 9, 2012 at 8:20 PM, Dave Fisher dave2w...@comcast.net wrote: Who are our projects BZ admins? Are there remaining issues. No idea if there are any, at least the

Re: Moving ahead with the AOO logo and rebranding

2012-01-09 Thread Graham Lauder
On Tuesday 10 Jan 2012 07:17:52 Andrew Rist wrote: On 1/8/2012 5:59 PM, Graham Lauder wrote: snip What did you have in mind for the survey itself? Were you thinking of SurveyMonkey? Survey monkey is good, though personally I prefer Zoomerang, but I'm with Claudio, Lime Survey is great

Re: Moving ahead with the AOO logo and rebranding

2012-01-09 Thread Graham Lauder
On Tuesday 10 Jan 2012 09:54:44 Pedro Giffuni wrote: --- Lun 9/1/12, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org ha scritto: ... I made a reasonable observation on the advantage of having our own instance of Lime. This solves the data security/privacy problem. FWIW, personal issues apart, I don't

Re: Moving ahead with the AOO logo and rebranding

2012-01-03 Thread Graham Lauder
On Wednesday 04 Jan 2012 11:13:20 Ross Gardler wrote: Sent from my mobile device, please forgive errors and brevity. On Jan 3, 2012 8:59 PM, Pavel Janík pa...@janik.cz wrote: https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOOLogo+proposal Personally I think this is fine work,

Re: Moving ahead with the AOO logo and rebranding

2012-01-03 Thread Graham Lauder
On Wednesday 04 Jan 2012 13:18:51 Rob Weir wrote: On Tue, Jan 3, 2012 at 8:02 PM, Graham Lauder g.a.lau...@gmail.com wrote: On Wednesday 04 Jan 2012 11:13:20 Ross Gardler wrote: Sent from my mobile device, please forgive errors and brevity. On Jan 3, 2012 8:59 PM, Pavel Janík pa

Re: Announce list is live

2011-12-30 Thread Graham Lauder
On Thursday 29 Dec 2011 15:29:46 Rob Weir wrote: On Wed, Dec 28, 2011 at 10:15 PM, Graham Lauder g.a.lau...@gmail.com wrote: On Thursday 29 Dec 2011 09:52:13 Rob Weir wrote: On Wed, Dec 28, 2011 at 3:34 PM, drew d...@baseanswers.com wrote: On Wed, 2011-12-28 at 15:15 -0500, Rob Weir wrote

Re: Announce list is live

2011-12-28 Thread Graham Lauder
On Thursday 29 Dec 2011 09:52:13 Rob Weir wrote: On Wed, Dec 28, 2011 at 3:34 PM, drew d...@baseanswers.com wrote: On Wed, 2011-12-28 at 15:15 -0500, Rob Weir wrote: On Wed, Dec 28, 2011 at 2:44 PM, drew d...@baseanswers.com wrote: On Wed, 2011-12-28 at 14:26 -0500, Rob Weir wrote: On

Re: IP Clearance Milestone

2011-12-23 Thread Graham Lauder
On Friday 23 Dec 2011 22:52:28 Andre Fischer wrote: Hi all, I am pleased to announce a major milestone on our way toward a first release of Apache OpenOffice. (This is, of course, no official announcement -- I just happen to have fixed the last IP clearance issue.) [...snip] Absolutely

Re: IP Clearance Milestone

2011-12-23 Thread Graham Lauder
On Saturday 24 Dec 2011 04:47:32 Dave Fisher wrote: On Dec 23, 2011, at 4:35 AM, Jürgen Schmidt wrote: On 12/23/11 10:52 AM, Andre Fischer wrote: [snip] i would volunteer to drive our first release forward, means i would i like to collect the items we have to do to be cconform with

Re: Off topic

2011-12-18 Thread Graham Lauder
On Friday 16 Dec 2011 12:03:53 Rob Weir wrote: On Thu, Dec 15, 2011 at 5:44 PM, Graham Lauder g.a.lau...@gmail.com wrote: snip The evidence actually reveals the complete opposite. A vast vibrant community with all the tension and foibles that brings with it, that produced, marketed

Re: Off topic

2011-12-15 Thread Graham Lauder
On Wednesday 14 Dec 2011 06:25:50 Ross Gardler wrote: On 13 December 2011 16:16, Louis Suárez-Potts lui...@gmail.com wrote: This and others are actually viable business models, and we showed as much with OOo's long tenure. The issue that we had to deal with was that the owning companies

Re: Aoo logo draft

2011-12-02 Thread Graham Lauder
On Friday 02 Dec 2011 21:31:45 drew wrote: Howdy Eric, On Fri, 2011-12-02 at 08:52 +0100, eric b wrote: Apologies, I forgot : Thank you very much for your proposal snip Your welcome and thanks also. Instead of changing everything, I'd suggest to define a complete graphic chart

Re: [DISCUSS] Marketing Team

2011-10-16 Thread Graham Lauder
On 10/15/11, Dave Fisher dave2w...@comcast.net wrote: While discussing this month's PPMC Board Report we discussed making volunteers from the PPMC responsible for certain roles. We quickly proceeded with a Press Liaison due to the immediate need. Before settling on a larger set of roles let's

Re: Incubator PMC/Board report for October 2011 (ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org)

2011-10-03 Thread Graham Lauder
Graham Lauder wrote on Mon, Oct 03, 2011 at 07:02:17 +1300: On Sunday, October 02, 2011 05:16:15 AM Dennis E. Hamilton wrote: These announcements to a list are interesting, because it is not clear who will take the initiative to see that this happens. Last month, I waited too long

Re: [email] RE: [Discuss] ASF hosted openoffice.org email service [Was: Re: [Discussion] d...@openoffice.org]

2011-08-21 Thread Graham Lauder
term users, (I dare say I'm not the only one) would have considerable issues tracing every single connection that uses that email. Administratively and in terms of resource consumption, I don't see a big issue leaving it as is. Cheers GL Graham Lauder, OpenOffice.org MarCon (Marketing

Re: Incubator PMC/Board report for August 2011 (ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org)

2011-08-12 Thread Graham Lauder
On Wed, 10 Aug 2011 21:50:46 Christian Grobmeier wrote: Graham, as time is short (due today) I have added it to the wiki and signed it Cheers Thanks for that, Christian, Work consumed my time the last couple of days. On Tue, Aug 9, 2011 at 1:47 PM, Graham Lauder yori...@openoffice.org

Re: Incubator PMC/Board report for August 2011 (ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org)

2011-08-09 Thread Graham Lauder
. www.openoffice.org is now in an Apache sandbox and work is being done to recreate it in the Apache CMS -- Edit as required Cheers GL Graham Lauder, OpenOffice.org MarCon (Marketing Contact) NZ http://marketing.openoffice.org/contacts.html

Re: Community outreach to openoffice.org visitors?

2011-08-04 Thread Graham Lauder
On Thu, 04 Aug 2011 09:58:44 Andrew Rist wrote: On 8/3/2011 2:27 PM, Rob Weir wrote: On Wed, Aug 3, 2011 at 3:43 PM, Marcus (OOo)marcus.m...@wtnet.de wrote: Do you mean this? http://www.openoffic.org http://www.openoffic.org/news Or which landing pages do you have in mind?

Re: Community outreach to openoffice.org visitors?

2011-08-04 Thread Graham Lauder
On Fri, 05 Aug 2011 06:18:33 Kay Schenk wrote: On Thu, Aug 4, 2011 at 5:06 AM, Graham Lauder yori...@openoffice.orgwrote: On Thu, 04 Aug 2011 09:58:44 Andrew Rist wrote: On 8/3/2011 2:27 PM, Rob Weir wrote: On Wed, Aug 3, 2011 at 3:43 PM, Marcus (OOo)marcus.m...@wtnet.de wrote

Re: Community outreach to openoffice.org visitors?

2011-08-04 Thread Graham Lauder
On Fri, 05 Aug 2011 01:39:23 Shane Curcuru wrote: On 8/4/2011 8:06 AM, Graham Lauder wrote: On Thu, 04 Aug 2011 09:58:44 Andrew Rist wrote: On 8/3/2011 2:27 PM, Rob Weir wrote: On Wed, Aug 3, 2011 at 3:43 PM, Marcus (OOo)marcus.m...@wtnet.de wrote: ...snip... In the past press

Re: Suggestion for OOo branding...

2011-07-24 Thread Graham Lauder
first in terms of branding. The Name? Colour Pallet, the colour Pallet should show consistency across logo, Website, branding bugs, promotional materials and including of course icons Style Manual Just for starters, if anyone can add to the list please do. Cheers GL -- Graham Lauder

Re: Suggestion for OOo branding...

2011-07-24 Thread Graham Lauder
first in terms of branding. The Name? Colour Pallet, the colour Pallet should show consistency across logo, Website, branding bugs, promotional materials and including of course icons Style Manual Just for starters, if anyone can add to the list please do. Cheers GL -- Graham Lauder

RE: RE: [DISCUSS] Initial Committer: Apache OpenOffice.org Initial Committer Status

2011-07-23 Thread Graham Lauder
On Fri, 2011-07-22 at 22:45 -0700, Dennis E. Hamilton wrote: Let me ask the question in reverse: how long do you think that we should leave the door open, no questions asked? Why? Til July 31, because it's long enough in a completely arbitrary way. Those dedicated to OOo and who have no

RE: Suggestion for OOo branding...

2011-07-22 Thread Graham Lauder
, Andrea. -- Graham Lauder, OpenOffice.org MarCon (Marketing Contact) NZ http://marketing.openoffice.org/contacts.html OpenOffice.org Migration and training Consultant.

RE: [DISCUSS] Project + PPMC Growing Pains

2011-07-19 Thread Graham Lauder
to me. Really, it is only since well about June 20th that more details of the move to Apache had emerged. I don't know how this information was supposedly made known, but, well...a LOT of folks were NOT informed. [ ... ] -- Graham Lauder, OpenOffice.org MarCon (Marketing Contact) NZ http

Re: OpenOffice.org (was Re: Ooo blog)

2011-07-12 Thread Graham Lauder
on Apache or lack of appreciation for their efforts thus far, just a statement of the circumstances. Cheers GL -- Graham Lauder, OpenOffice.org MarCon (Marketing Contact) NZ http://marketing.openoffice.org/contacts.html OpenOffice.org Migration and training Consultant.

Re: OpenOffice.org (was Re: Ooo blog)

2011-07-11 Thread Graham Lauder
, it should remain unsullied and unaltered. Unless of course someone can come up with several hundred thousand for a marketing budget to launch a new global brand. Cheers GL -- Graham Lauder, OpenOffice.org MarCon (Marketing Contact) NZ http://marketing.openoffice.org/contacts.html OpenOffice.org

Re: OpenOffice.org (was Re: Ooo blog)

2011-07-11 Thread Graham Lauder
know this is a developer community and some of us Non-Dev types feel somewhat uncomfortable about the place and feel we should keep our heads down and be quiet, but some things are important outside the code that need to be addressed and debated and branding is a big one. Cheers GL -- Graham

Re: Website Content plus Look and Feel Improvements

2011-07-07 Thread Graham Lauder
On Wed, 2011-07-06 at 08:34 -0700, Kay Schenk wrote: On Wed, Jul 6, 2011 at 12:39 AM, Graham Lauder yori...@openoffice.orgwrote: We had some earlier discussions on this. Personally, I was proposing that we take the opportunity to simplify. For example, right now we're doing all

Re: DITA for Doc?

2011-07-07 Thread Graham Lauder
adopted. The help has been one component that has needed some more love for sometime. It was hard to drum up interest, if DITA were a way to lower some barriers, then great. -- Graham Lauder, OpenOffice.org MarCon (Marketing Contact) NZ http://marketing.openoffice.org/contacts.html

Re: Website Content plus Look and Feel Improvements

2011-07-06 Thread Graham Lauder
On Tue, 2011-07-05 at 13:33 -0400, Rob Weir wrote: On Tue, Jul 5, 2011 at 5:04 AM, Graham Lauder g.a.lau...@gmail.com wrote: On Sun, 2011-07-03 at 10:23 -0700, Dave Fisher wrote: On Jul 2, 2011, at 9:29 PM, Graham Lauder wrote: Much of what is on there is legacy material that could

Re: Website Content plus Look and Feel Improvements

2011-07-05 Thread Graham Lauder
On Sun, 2011-07-03 at 10:23 -0700, Dave Fisher wrote: On Jul 2, 2011, at 9:29 PM, Graham Lauder wrote: Much of what is on there is legacy material that could be seriously pruned. For instance all the old Marketing material that is V2.0 and earlier could be deleted. What would you

Re: Another introduction

2011-07-04 Thread Graham Lauder
On Sun, 2011-07-03 at 09:21 -0400, Rob Weir wrote: On Sat, Jul 2, 2011 at 10:44 PM, Graham Lauder yori...@openoffice.org wrote: Greetings all, My name is Graham Lauder AKA Yorick or Yo. I've been involved with OOo for a number of years mainly in the marketing project but also

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