Re: Moving on (forked from Re: JavaOne roundup?)

2013-09-30 Thread Fabrizio Giudici
On Mon, 30 Sep 2013 11:48:10 +0200, Felix Bembrick wrote: I urge everyone *not* to walk away from JavaFX, at least not yet. As has been pointed out, there were several sessions scheduled for J1 relating to JavaFX on mobiles and tablets that were only cancelled at the very last minute. I see

Re: Moving on (forked from Re: JavaOne roundup?)

2013-09-30 Thread Felix Bembrick
Besides, I thought this list was to discuss *all* issues related to the development of OpenJFX and surely such issues are relevant??? On 30 September 2013 20:05, Tobias Bley wrote: > Pardon? It’s not allowed to discuss with the JavaFX community the future > of the technology and community in th

Re: Moving on (forked from Re: JavaOne roundup?)

2013-09-30 Thread Felix Bembrick
Yes, perhaps Oracle have not yet grasped the degree of importance of actively engaging the community in a project that is "supposed" to be community-based. I suspect the limited resources of the JavaFX team are working flat-out just to get new versions released and to meet the targets for JFX8 and

Re: Moving on (forked from Re: JavaOne roundup?)

2013-09-30 Thread Felix Bembrick
Hey, I am trying to hose-down the political talk! I encourage everyone to take a deep breath and focus on the many positives of the awesome technology that is JavaFX :-) On 30 September 2013 20:03, Hervé Girod wrote: > It's not the place to talk politics here. If you want to channel your > fru

Re: Moving on (forked from Re: JavaOne roundup?)

2013-09-30 Thread Tobias Bley
Pardon? It’s not allowed to discuss with the JavaFX community the future of the technology and community in their mailing list??? What’s up Hervé? Am 30.09.2013 um 12:03 schrieb Hervé Girod : > It's not the place to talk politics here. If you want to channel your > frustration, do it in your b

Re: Moving on (forked from Re: JavaOne roundup?)

2013-09-30 Thread Hervé Girod
It's not the place to talk politics here. If you want to channel your frustration, do it in your blog if you have one. Hervé Sent from my iPhone > On 30 sept. 2013, at 11:14, Tobias Bley wrote: > > I absolutely agree Daniel. I opened a very important bug reporting concerning > JFX performan

Re: Moving on (forked from Re: JavaOne roundup?)

2013-09-30 Thread Tobias Bley
I absolutely agree that it’s very important to release a stable solution. BUT: There is a ARM based version for embedded space available as beta version since a long time… so it’s important to TALK to the community. Otherwise Java and JavaFX == Oracle. No need to open source it. Am 30.09.2013

Re: Moving on (forked from Re: JavaOne roundup?)

2013-09-30 Thread Felix Bembrick
I urge everyone *not* to walk away from JavaFX, at least not yet. As has been pointed out, there were several sessions scheduled for J1 relating to JavaFX on mobiles and tablets that were only cancelled at the very last minute. I see this as a definite positive. To me that says that they truly b

Re: Moving on (forked from Re: JavaOne roundup?)

2013-09-30 Thread Tobias Bley
I absolutely agree Daniel. I opened a very important bug reporting concerning JFX performance on iPhone which currently prevents using JavaFX (and RoboVM) to build apps for the iPhone (https://javafx-jira.kenai.com/browse/RT-31453) this bug report is open since 3(!) month! How shall the communi

Moving on (forked from Re: JavaOne roundup?)

2013-09-30 Thread Daniel Zwolenski
The lack of information on iOS/Android is a major bummer, but this also highlights a deeper problem here. We have a situation where Oracle won't talk to this community because the topic is important, it's too big a game changer for them to comment on. It's tied in with share prices, and market str