Re: Anyone using JMX with JavaFX?

On 14.06.2016 12:25, Robert Krüger wrote: Only regarding the net loss for the community: There are not many places where people trying to defend (and make a living off) Java as a viable desktop technology can try to get information from Oracle This particular mailing list is not one of those

Re: Anyone using JMX with JavaFX?

Mario, I would really love to agree with you but then sadly we'd both be wrong. But thanks for not sending this email just to me "offline" for a change (and for being far more polite)... > On 14 Jun 2016, at 21:05, Mario Torre wrote: > > On Tue, Jun 14, 2016 at

Re: Anyone using JMX with JavaFX?

On Tue, Jun 14, 2016 at 12:25 PM, Robert Krüger wrote: > Only regarding the net loss for the community: There are not many places > where people trying to defend (and make a living off) Java as a viable > desktop technology can try to get information from Oracle and the

Re: Anyone using JMX with JavaFX?

Thanks Robert - much appreciated. Just be careful, you may soon be labelled a spammer, get threatened with being banned from this list and also expect random creeps to send you private (cowardly) "offline" insults. But, don't worry, I am well aware of the *massive* number of poor believers in

Re: Anyone using JMX with JavaFX?

Only regarding the net loss for the community: There are not many places where people trying to defend (and make a living off) Java as a viable desktop technology can try to get information from Oracle and the questions he asks are also the ones we (as an ISV with a Java-based product) would ask,

Re: Anyone using JMX with JavaFX?

Thank you for the replies. It helps confirm what I suspected, that this feature isn't really used. If anyone is using it who hasn't chimed in yet, please let me know what you are using it for. Thanks. -- Kevin Scott Palmer wrote: I never heard of this until this thread. And after googling

Re: Anyone using JMX with JavaFX?

On 13.06.2016 15:02, Felix Bembrick wrote: I am one of the most vocal, passionate and positive advocates for OpenJFX and JavaFX. Felix, That may very well be the case, in your opinion, but this mailing list is not a forum for advocacy. It is for technical discussions. Whether you are or

Re: Anyone using JMX with JavaFX?

Are you saying that I have negatively contributed to OpenJFX or JavaFX in general? I am one of the most vocal, passionate and positive advocates for OpenJFX and JavaFX. > On 13 Jun 2016, at 22:45, dalibor topic wrote: > > Felix, > > This is an open source Project's

Re: Anyone using JMX with JavaFX?

Felix, This is an open source Project's mailing list, specifically for technical discussions of that Project's development. It's not an 'open' forum suitable for discussion of other issues. Removing participants that continue to abuse the privilege of being on an open source project's

Re: Anyone using JMX with JavaFX?

Dear Dalibor, "This mailing list is the not the right forum for discussions of Oracle's products. This mailing list is for OpenJFX development, specifically." Read that again. Thank you for giving me the clear answer you promised! And thanks for the warning in case I accidentally start

Re: Anyone using JMX with JavaFX?

Felix, if you'd like to ask questions about Oracle's products, please do so at https://community.oracle.com/welcome . This mailing list is the not the right forum for discussions of Oracle's products. This mailing list is for OpenJFX development, specifically. On a side note, spamming this

Re: Anyone using JMX with JavaFX?

Thanks you most sincerely Dalibor for that very direct response. Only... it wasn't really, was it? You "believe I am entitled to a clear answer to my question". Great! *So why have you still not answered it?* Let me put it another way *so as there can be no possible room for any further

Re: Anyone using JMX with JavaFX?

Felix, I believe that you are entitled to a clear answer to your question: Yes, I have considered a career in politics. That being said, I would kindly suggest that you stop trying to divert[0] technical discussions in this community with off-topic posts, such as your contributions to this

Re: Anyone using JMX with JavaFX?

Kudos on the "imagination" part... You are at least possibly right about Cisco. And your quote "but only if they knew it wasn't going to disappear" is a nice summary of the intent of my reasonable question that never got "officially" answered. But then again, it was somewhat rhetorical in

Re: Anyone using JMX with JavaFX?

Back to the original topic, since JMX is used to monitor servers and applications, and since most of us don't write monitoring software, the audience for it is by definition small. I would imagine that Oracle and perhaps a Cisco (or companies involved in network monitoring) would be interested,

Re: Anyone using JMX with JavaFX?

Dalibor, please forgive me for assuming that Oracle had access to an English language parser. I could translate my original question into Klingon and resubmit if that would help. And thanks so much for pointing out to me that this forum is devoted to "ongoing OpenJFX development". Clearly I

Re: Anyone using JMX with JavaFX?

Felix, unfortunately your original question was not parse-able. Before you go on prolonging this thread with more of that, please consider that this mailing list is for discussion of ongoing OpenJFX development. If instead you would prefer to discuss something else, please do try to find a

Re: Anyone using JMX with JavaFX?

Did you even read the email you are replying to? Or the email I was myself replying to? If I have spell it out so bluntly that everyone can understand then I will only get myself into further trouble with the "Big O". I used a technique known locally as "sarcasm". It's sort of the default mode

Re: Anyone using JMX with JavaFX?

Okay this thread is about what to do with javafx jmx plugin. How does that even relate to whether oracle is using javafx internally? On Fri, Jun 10, 2016, 7:52 PM Felix Bembrick wrote: > Unfortunately, it has a lot to do with it. > > Do you actually realise how much of

Re: Anyone using JMX with JavaFX?

Unfortunately, it has a lot to do with it. Do you actually realise how much of the entire JMC is written using JavaFX? (Not to mention what percentage of Java developers even know about or use JMC). Please check and then feel free to respond and enlighten us all with your findings. 100%? At

Re: Anyone using JMX with JavaFX?

I never heard of this until this thread. And after googling I still have no clue what it is. I think that explains some of why it is rarely used. Scott > On Jun 10, 2016, at 6:01 AM, dalibor topic wrote: > > I suspect that particular plugin is extremely rarely used,

Re: Anyone using JMX with JavaFX?

What has the removal of JMX for JavaFX todo with Oracle using JavaFX themselves? There are projects at Oracle who for sure do use JavaFX and one of them is installed in your JDK! It's Java-Mission-Control. Tom On 10.06.16 12:46, Felix Bembrick wrote: > I am taking that as a "yes" answer to my

Re: Anyone using JMX with JavaFX?

I am taking that as a "yes" answer to my original question. On a completely unrelated topic, do Microsoft employees all have Macs on their desktops and carry iPhones and iPads around? No? Well I bet Apple employees do! > On 10 Jun 2016, at 20:01, dalibor topic

Re: Anyone using JMX with JavaFX?

I suspect that particular plugin is extremely rarely used, judging by https://github.com/search?utf8=%E2%9C%93=%22javafx-mx.jar%22=Code=searchresults showing 0 results. cheers, dalibor topic On 09.06.2016 00:31, Kevin Rushforth wrote: As some of you may be aware, JavaFX has shipped a JMX

Re: Anyone using JMX with JavaFX?

I am sorry if this is a question you would prefer not to answer but I believe the answer is significant. I am sure the entire JavaFX community would love to know if Oracle "eats their own dog food" so to speak. Felix On 9 June 2016 at 10:02, Felix Bembrick wrote: >

Re: Anyone using JMX with JavaFX?

So, if I'm not correct, does that mean that by choosing option 1, there will no remaining usage of JavaFX internally by Oracle themselves? Felix On 9 June 2016 at 08:31, Kevin Rushforth wrote: > As some of you may be aware, JavaFX has shipped a JMX plugin as a

Anyone using JMX with JavaFX?

As some of you may be aware, JavaFX has shipped a JMX plugin as a separate jar file along with the JDK (not part of the JRE) in /lib/javafx-mx.jar. Development on this plugin stopped prior to JDK 8 being shipped, although we continued to ship javafx-mx.jar in JDK 8. Are there any developers