Re: [osol-discuss] [ogb-discuss] Call for Action

2010-04-14 Thread Dennis Clarke
W dniu 2010-04-13 20:27, Dennis Clarke pisze: I started twitching weeks ago. I see a snv_137 has landed but no distro based on it. Really, we as a community should be rolling our own by now regardless. Isn't that what Indiana was all about? To be a meta distribution to help create other

Re: [osol-discuss] Any news about 2010.3?

2010-04-14 Thread Matthias Pfützner
You (Alex Viskovatoff) ask: Just out of curiosity, do you know under what OS CERN uses ZFS? No, but either Solaris 10 or OpenSolaris... ;-) Matthias -- Matthias Pfützner | Tel.: +49 700 PFUETZNER | Klaus Kinkel war in China Lichtenbergstr.73 | mailto:matth...@pfuetzner.de | und

Re: [osol-discuss] Any news about 2010.3?

2010-04-14 Thread Svein Skogen
On 31.03.2010 10:06, Orvar Korvar wrote: If you value your data, you should reconsider. But if your data is not important, then skip ZFS. File system data corruption test by researcher: http://blogs.zdnet.com/storage/?p=169 ZFS data corruption test by researchers:

Re: [osol-discuss] [ogb-discuss] Call for Action

2010-04-14 Thread Matthias Pfützner
Dennis, You (Dennis Clarke) wrote: I instantly jumped onto the snv_137 tarballs and also started dragging in everything from jucr this afternoon. I even went and grabbed the Steve Christensen creation called SFW which is really the Companion CD all grown up. At least I think it is. Great,

Re: [osol-discuss] Any news about 2010.3?

2010-04-14 Thread Matthias Pfützner
You (Svein Skogen) wrote: On 31.03.2010 10:06, Orvar Korvar wrote: If you value your data, you should reconsider. But if your data is not important, then skip ZFS. File system data corruption test by researcher: http://blogs.zdnet.com/storage/?p=169 ZFS data corruption test by

[osol-discuss] snv_137 bfu

2010-04-14 Thread Dennis Clarke
sorry for the brutal email snip but it is 03:10AM here and I have not stopped in about 20 hours. I hate to say it .. but I love this stuff. Such a geek I know :-) Original Message Subject: Re: [osol-discuss] [ogb-discuss] Call for Action

Re: [osol-discuss] Any news about 2010.3?

2010-04-14 Thread Svein Skogen
On 14.04.2010 09:07, Matthias Pfützner wrote: You (Svein Skogen) wrote: On 31.03.2010 10:06, Orvar Korvar wrote: If you value your data, you should reconsider. But if your data is not important, then skip ZFS. File system data corruption test by researcher:

Re: [osol-discuss] Any news about 2010.3?

2010-04-14 Thread Matthias Pfützner
You (Svein Skogen) wrote: Check: http://storagemojo.com/2007/09/19/cerns-data-corruption-research/ Which is another worthless document, without any info on what controllers they actually tested with. I too can make claim about corruption and data loss. But without pointing

Re: [osol-discuss] snv_137 bfu

2010-04-14 Thread Matthias Pfützner
Dennis, thanks for the infos! Have a good sleep! Here, with the FRAOSUG (Frankfurt, Germany OpenSolaris User Group) meeting again next week, we again will by driving the participants to more active participation. Volker A. Brandt did already present on JUICR, so, again, we will try to activate

Re: [osol-discuss] Any news about 2010.3?

2010-04-14 Thread Svein Skogen
On 14.04.2010 09:33, Matthias Pfützner wrote: You (Svein Skogen) wrote: Check: http://storagemojo.com/2007/09/19/cerns-data-corruption-research/ Which is another worthless document, without any info on what controllers they actually tested with. I too can make claim about

Re: [osol-discuss] Any news about 2010.3?

2010-04-14 Thread Matthias Pfützner
You (Svein Skogen) wrote: What's it, your after? That study is more than 2 years old now, and the RAID-controllers, that didn't work, probably will have updated their FWs by now. Ahh, so first you use the papers to prove how superior ZFS is to raidcontrollers for your data. Then, when

Re: [osol-discuss] Firefox 3.5.5 with SXCE can't load page

2010-04-14 Thread bsd
I'm not sure where the problem lies, but: I am able to load www.namecheap.com with OpenSolaris 2009.06/b134, FreeBSD 7.2/8.0, OpenBSD 4.5/4.6/-current. I am unable to load the page using OpenSolaris b129 or SXCE b130. Downloaded Firefox 3.6 from sunfreeware.com/mozilla.html and installed it

[osol-discuss] Crash analysis help - reboot after panic: Freeing a free IOMMU page: paddr=0xccca2000

2010-04-14 Thread Bruno Sousa
Hi all, Recently one of the servers that my company uses , a Dell R710, attached to 2 Sun JBOD J4400 started to crash quite often. Finally i got a message in /var/adm/messages that might point to something usefull, but i don't have the expertise to start to troubleshooting this problem, so any

Re: [osol-discuss] Crash analysis help - reboot after panic: Freeing a free IOMMU page: paddr=0xccca2000

2010-04-14 Thread Brian Ruthven - Solaris Network Sustaining - Oracle UK
Hi Bruno, Googling for this panic, I see defect 15601 (http://defect.opensolaris.org/bz/show_bug.cgi?id=15601) has been logged, I suspect by you? If so, then I think you've already done just about everything I would expect of a bug finder - you've logged a bug including the panic message,

Re: [osol-discuss] Firefox 3.5.5 with SXCE can't load page

2010-04-14 Thread ken mays
Hello, Most of the official Firefox on Solaris update ports are done over at the Mozilla FTP site by the Beijing team. You'll see Firefox 3.6.3 there as well as the new dev release. I used Seamonkey 2.0.4, Firefox 3.5.8, and Firefox 3.6.3 on the namecheap website and it instantly loaded.

[osol-discuss] Which build is the most stable, mainly for NAS (zfs)?

2010-04-14 Thread Dmitry
Which build is the most stable, mainly for NAS? I plann NAS zfs + CIFS,iSCSI Thanks -- This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org

Re: [osol-discuss] Which build is the most stable, mainly for NAS (zfs)?

2010-04-14 Thread Matthias Pfützner
Because of your requirement of iSCSI, use the latest... ;-) You (Dmitry) wrote: Which build is the most stable, mainly for NAS? I plann NAS zfs + CIFS,iSCSI Thanks Matthias -- Matthias Pfützner | Tel.: +49 700 PFUETZNER | There are good marriages, Lichtenbergstr.73 |

Re: [osol-discuss] snv_137 bfu

2010-04-14 Thread Martin Bochnig
On Wed, Apr 14, 2010 at 10:16 AM, Dennis Clarke dcla...@blastwave.org wrote: sorry for the brutal email snip but it is 03:10AM here and I have not stopped in about 20 hours. I hate to say it .. but I love this stuff. Such a geek I know :-) Original Message

Re: [osol-discuss] snv_137 bfu

2010-04-14 Thread Dennis Clarke
Dennis, ^porting^? How much porting work was required? You mean you took the Sun sfw src tarball and compiled it? GCC was by me, same as binutils, same as the grub bootloader for PowerPC that you mentioned earlier, bash was by Ken Mays, other bits were done by the Initworks team. Martin,

[osol-discuss] So when are we gonna fork this sucker?

2010-04-14 Thread Chad Welsh
Well we have heard from one of the OGB members about forking this project to save it from the hands of [b]HOracle[/b] the multi-headed, voracious, open source devouring monster. So, when and who might be the first step/person to make this happen to protect what has been done so far? Been nice

Re: [osol-discuss] iSCSI broken in snv_134?

2010-04-14 Thread Shawn
I also have almost this exact same problem on versions since 0906 on both physical and virtual OpenSolaris/EON builds. I usually have 4 iscsi volumes coming from the EQL boxes. I can almost always connect to one, but no more than one and I need all 4. -- This message posted from

Re: [osol-discuss] So when are we gonna fork this sucker?

2010-04-14 Thread Dennis Clarke
Well we have heard from one of the OGB members about forking this project to save it from the hands of [b]HOracle[/b] the multi-headed, voracious, open source devouring monster. So, when and who might be the first step/person to make this happen to protect what has been done so far? Been

Re: [osol-discuss] So when are we gonna fork this sucker?

2010-04-14 Thread Jennifer Pioch
On Wed, Apr 14, 2010 at 3:44 PM, Chad Welsh unixphr...@mac.com wrote: Well we have heard from one of the OGB members about forking this project to save it from the hands of [b]HOracle[/b] the multi-headed, voracious, open source devouring monster. So, when and who might be the first

Re: [osol-discuss] Which build is the most stable, mainly for NAS (zfs)?

2010-04-14 Thread Dmitry
134 dev build, is suitable for this? can i upgrade it to realese in the future? -- This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org

Re: [osol-discuss] snv_137 bfu

2010-04-14 Thread Martin Bochnig
On Wed, Apr 14, 2010 at 4:37 PM, Dennis Clarke dcla...@blastwave.org wrote: Dennis, ^porting^? How much porting work was required? You mean you took the Sun sfw src tarball and compiled it? GCC was by me, same as binutils, same as the grub bootloader for PowerPC that you mentioned

Re: [osol-discuss] Which build is the most stable, mainly for NAS (zfs)?

2010-04-14 Thread Matthias Pfützner
You (Dmitry) wrote: 134 dev build, is suitable for this? I assume so, I don't have any specific infos. Some people seem to have a couple problems with 134, see: http://opensolaris.org/jive/thread.jspa?messageID=474302tstart=0 can i upgrade it to realese in the future? Sure!

Re: [osol-discuss] Firefox 3.5.5 with SXCE can't load page

2010-04-14 Thread bsd
Greatly appreciated! Thanks! -- This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org

[osol-discuss] Created a FAT32 partition using Fdisk, but it can not be mounted..

2010-04-14 Thread Sarah.kho
Hi I created a fat32 partition using: format formatfdisk fdisk1 and then C for fat32. then I exit the fdisk and format. To make sure that the partition is there, I entered the format and fdisk command and my partition was there (it was active as well). The disk name is c9t1d4 so I assumed

Re: [osol-discuss] Created a FAT32 partition using Fdisk, but it can not be mounted..

2010-04-14 Thread E. Mike Durbin
Close! All the partitions that end in sN (e.g. s0) are Solaris partitions (aka slices). All the Solaris slices reside in one fdisk partition. All the fdisk partitions end in pN (e.g. p0) So ... use: mount -F pcfs /dev/dsk/c9t1d4p0 /media/s emike On 04/14/2010 09:09 AM, Sarah.kho

Re: [osol-discuss] Firefox 3.5.5 with SXCE can't load page

2010-04-14 Thread Martin Bochnig
On Tue, Apr 13, 2010 at 11:46 AM, Ian Collins i...@ianshome.com wrote: On 04/13/10 05:39 PM, Martin Bochnig wrote:  www.namecheap.com just takes a while, until it loads. But the statements relating to www.zoll.de are still valid. For over 3 weeks I tried to load that site several times per

Re: [osol-discuss] Created a FAT32 partition using Fdisk, but it can not be mounted..

2010-04-14 Thread Matthias Pfützner
man mount_pcfs might help... ;-) The special argument can be one of two special device file types: oA floppy disk, such as /dev/diskette0 or /dev/diskette1. oA DOS logical drive on a hard disk expressed as

Re: [osol-discuss] Created a FAT32 partition using Fdisk, but it can not be mounted..

2010-04-14 Thread Sarah.kho
Hi, Thank you for helping me on this. before applying mkfs I tried the mount command as follow: mount -F pcfs /dev/dsk/c9t1d4p0 /media/s The command returns the following error: mount: /dev/dsk/c9t1d4p0 is not a DOS filesystem. So I tried the fstyp command on that partition and it says:

Re: [osol-discuss] [indiana-discuss] So when are we gonna fork this sucker?

2010-04-14 Thread Martin Bochnig
On Wed, Apr 14, 2010 at 5:30 PM, George Koutras koutra...@yahoo.com wrote: I start shivering to the idea that oracle might drop opensolaris or keep developing only the Openstorage required portions of it, and adding to that the sudden silence in indiana-discuss from @oracle.com @sun.com

Re: [osol-discuss] [indiana-discuss] So when are we gonna fork this sucker?

2010-04-14 Thread Alan Coopersmith
George Koutras wrote: the sudden silence in indiana-discuss from @oracle.com @sun.com (last email on Friday 9/4), You need to check your mail filters. The archives show mail to indiana-discuss from oracle.com addresses since then (April 12 as most recent, since yesterday seems to have been

Re: [osol-discuss] iSCSI broken in snv_134?

2010-04-14 Thread Alastair Neil
Seems like this may be equalogic related. I have 16 targets imported into 8 mirrored pools from 4 openfiler systems and I don't seem to have any problems. On Wed, Apr 14, 2010 at 9:46 AM, Shawn smmo...@catawba.edu wrote: I also have almost this exact same problem on versions since 0906 on

Re: [osol-discuss] So when are we gonna fork this sucker?

2010-04-14 Thread Alan Coopersmith
Chad Welsh wrote: So, when and who might be the first step/person to make this happen to protect what has been done so far? What would your fork do differently than the main project, besides have almost no developers working on it, since all the Oracle-paid developers would still be working on

Re: [osol-discuss] Created a FAT32 partition using Fdisk, but it can not be mounted..

2010-04-14 Thread Milan Cermak
Okay. So you need following command: mkfs -F pcfs /dev/rdsk/c9t1d4p1 p0 is whole disk (including the partition table). Sorry I mistyped the mkfs command in the first e-mail. That was Linux syntax. Milan Dne 14.04.10 16:41, Sarah.kho napsal(a): Hi, Thank you for helping me on this. before

Re: [osol-discuss] Which build is the most stable, mainly for NAS (zfs)?

2010-04-14 Thread Dennis Clarke
On 04-14-10, Matthias Pfützner matth...@pfuetzner.de wrote:  You (Dmitry) wrote: 134 dev build, is suitable for this? I assume so, I don't have any specific infos. Some people seem to have a couple problems with 134, see:    http://opensolaris.org/jive/thread.jspa?messageID=474302tstart=0

Re: [osol-discuss] [indiana-discuss] So when are we gonna fork this sucker?

2010-04-14 Thread Bruno Sousa
Just a completely different question...is there any plans for btrfs ? Will ZFS and btrfs co-exist or there's a chance that the less used one would be dropped? Thanks, Bruno On 14-4-2010 16:50, Alan Coopersmith wrote: George Koutras wrote: the sudden silence in indiana-discuss from

Re: [osol-discuss] Created a FAT32 partition using Fdisk, but it can not be mounted..

2010-04-14 Thread Matthias Pfützner
Did you actually run a Windows format on that partition to get a real PCFS? The steps you listed only created a PARTITION into which you could then really create a FAT FS.. But you did not yet really CREATE that FAT FS, right? Matthias You (Sarah.kho) wrote: Hi, Thank you for helping me

Re: [osol-discuss] So when are we gonna fork this sucker?

2010-04-14 Thread Robert Milkowski
On 14/04/2010 15:56, Alan Coopersmith wrote: Chad Welsh wrote: So, when and who might be the first step/person to make this happen to protect what has been done so far? What would your fork do differently than the main project, besides have almost no developers working on it, since

Re: [osol-discuss] So when are we gonna fork this sucker?

2010-04-14 Thread Paul Gress
On 04/14/10 10:56 AM, Alan Coopersmith wrote: Chad Welsh wrote: So, when and who might be the first step/person to make this happen to protect what has been done so far? What would your fork do differently than the main project, besides have almost no developers working on it, since

Re: [osol-discuss] [indiana-discuss] So when are we gonna fork this sucker?

2010-04-14 Thread Casper . Dik
Just a completely different question...is there any plans for btrfs ? Will ZFS and btrfs co-exist or there's a chance that the less used one would be dropped? Which OS supports both? Linux support brtfs, Solaris supports ZFS. Casper ___

Re: [osol-discuss] [indiana-discuss] So when are we gonna fork this sucker?

2010-04-14 Thread Andrew Watkins
What ever happens to (Open)Solaris the new version of Solaris (Solaris Next again Oracle Welcome Session) will surly be based of OpenSolaris.. I guess the only key word will be Open Andrew George Koutras wrote: I start shivering to the idea that oracle might drop opensolaris or keep

[osol-discuss] b137 based on tonic or otherwise

2010-04-14 Thread Dennis Clarke
On 04-14-10, Paul Gress pgr...@optonline.net wrote:  I don't think he wants to start a new distro, he's looking to publishb137. That's about it in a nutshell. I have no shortage of build servers and thus I was thinking, if this is really open source ( with redistributables ) then a person

[osol-discuss] brtfs on Solaris? (Re: [indiana-discuss] So when are we gonna fork this sucker?)

2010-04-14 Thread ольга крыжановская
brtfs could be supported on Opensolaris, too. IMO it could even complement ZFS and spawn some concurrent development between both. ZFS is too high end and works very poorly with less than 2GB while brtfs reportedly works well with 128MB on ARM. Olga On Wed, Apr 14, 2010 at 5:31 PM,

Re: [osol-discuss] Created a FAT32 partition using Fdisk, but it can not b

2010-04-14 Thread Richard Skelton
Hi Sarah, You need to type:- mkfs -Fpcfs -o fat=32 /dev/rdsk/c9t1d4p0:c -- This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org

Re: [osol-discuss] [laptop-discuss] So when are we gonna fork this sucker?

2010-04-14 Thread C. Bergström
Jennifer Pioch wrote: On Wed, Apr 14, 2010 at 3:44 PM, Chad Welsh unixphr...@mac.com wrote: Well we have heard from one of the OGB members about forking this project to save it from the hands of [b]HOracle[/b] the multi-headed, voracious, open source devouring monster. So, when and who

Re: [osol-discuss] So when are we gonna fork this sucker?

2010-04-14 Thread Chad Welsh
Well maybe this distro will communicate with its people besides the ones inside the company about the status of its latest release since you cut the balls off the release branch that should have continued. close to a month of us wondering what the hell happened to 2010.03 and still nothing to

Re: [osol-discuss] [pkg-discuss] pkg.sun.com

2010-04-14 Thread Erik Trauschke
On Tue, 2010-04-13 at 21:03 -0500, weekleyj wrote: On 4/13/10 8:53 PM, Alan Coopersmith wrote: weekleyj wrote: On 4/13/10 5:41 PM, Alex Bisoyannis wrote: Hi all, Is pkg.sun.comhttp://pkg.sun.com down? I am trying to add the extra repo, but I cannot reach th elogin page for some

Re: [osol-discuss] iSCSI broken in snv_134?

2010-04-14 Thread Shawn
I tried to use my EQL support but since it's not happening with Solaris 10, they don't support opensolaris is what I was told. -- This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org

Re: [osol-discuss] brtfs on Solaris? (Re: [indiana-discuss] So when are we gonna fork this sucker?)

2010-04-14 Thread Casper . Dik
brtfs could be supported on Opensolaris, too. IMO it could even complement ZFS and spawn some concurrent development between both. ZFS is too high end and works very poorly with less than 2GB while brtfs reportedly works well with 128MB on ARM. Both have license issues; Oracle can now re-license

Re: [osol-discuss] Created a FAT32 partition using Fdisk, but it can not b

2010-04-14 Thread Matthias Pfützner
Or boot off of an USB stick with a tools like RANISH on it, that can easily create the partition and also create a FS... http://www.ranish.com/part/ You (Richard Skelton) wrote: Hi Sarah, You need to type:- mkfs -Fpcfs -o fat=32 /dev/rdsk/c9t1d4p0:c -- Matthias Pfützner | Tel.: +49

Re: [osol-discuss] So when are we gonna fork this sucker?

2010-04-14 Thread Alan Coopersmith
Paul Gress wrote: If their pushing to the main OpenSolaris gates every day, why hasn't anything been released. Why cannot I upgrade to b135, b136 or b137? Every previous time we've had a release in progress, updates to /dev stopped while the release was underway - when 2009.06 was being

Re: [osol-discuss] So when are we gonna fork this sucker?

2010-04-14 Thread Alan Coopersmith
Chad Welsh wrote: Well maybe this distro will communicate with its people besides the ones inside the company about the status of its latest release since you cut the balls off the release branch that should have continued. I assure you I have not touched anyones balls. Attacking the few of

Re: [osol-discuss] So when are we gonna fork this sucker?

2010-04-14 Thread Martin Bochnig
On Wed, Apr 14, 2010 at 7:19 PM, Alan Coopersmith alan.coopersm...@oracle.com wrote: Chad Welsh wrote: Well maybe this distro will communicate with its people besides the ones inside the company about the status of its latest release since you cut the balls off the release branch that should

Re: [osol-discuss] [indiana-discuss] [laptop-discuss] So when are we gonna fork this sucker?

2010-04-14 Thread Alan Coopersmith
C. Bergström wrote: #2 TOG doesn't own the code in question. IBM is afaik the copyright holder on the wide character things you're referencing in libc. TOS only handles the UNIX tm and certification. (I know I've talked with them quite a bit) As others have talked about the Citrus wide

Re: [osol-discuss] So when are we gonna fork this sucker?

2010-04-14 Thread Martin Bochnig
On Wed, Apr 14, 2010 at 6:27 PM, Paul Gress pgr...@optonline.net wrote: On 04/14/10 10:56 AM, Alan Coopersmith wrote: Chad Welsh wrote: So, when and who might be the first step/person to make this happen to protect what has been done so far? What would your fork do differently than the

Re: [osol-discuss] [indiana-discuss] So when are we gonna fork this sucker?

2010-04-14 Thread Martin Bochnig
On Wed, Apr 14, 2010 at 5:56 PM, Alan Coopersmith alan.coopersm...@oracle.com wrote: Chad Welsh wrote: So, when and who might be the first step/person to make this happen to protect what has been done so far? What would your fork do differently than the main project, besides have almost no

Re: [osol-discuss] [indiana-discuss] So when are we gonna fork this sucker?

2010-04-14 Thread Bruno Sousa
The question wasn't very clear, so here are my apologies. I was trying to ask if Oracle/Sun will maintain 2 different filesystems , ZFS and btrfs in two different platforms Open/Solaris and Linux, or if something can be merged along the way... I can imagine alot of customers with running linux

Re: [osol-discuss] [laptop-discuss] So when are we gonna fork this sucker?

2010-04-14 Thread Jennifer Pioch
2010/4/14 C. Bergström codest...@osunix.org: Jennifer Pioch wrote: On Wed, Apr 14, 2010 at 3:44 PM, Chad Welsh unixphr...@mac.com wrote: Well we have heard from one of the OGB members about forking this project to save it from the hands of [b]HOracle[/b] the multi-headed, voracious, open

Re: [osol-discuss] [indiana-discuss] [laptop-discuss] So when are we gonna fork this sucker?

2010-04-14 Thread Martin Bochnig
2010/4/14 Jennifer Pioch piochjenni...@googlemail.com: 2010/4/14 C. Bergström codest...@osunix.org: Jennifer Pioch wrote: On Wed, Apr 14, 2010 at 3:44 PM, Chad Welsh unixphr...@mac.com wrote: Well we have heard from one of the OGB members about forking this project to save it from the

Re: [osol-discuss] So when are we gonna fork this sucker?

2010-04-14 Thread Paul Gress
On 04/14/10 12:12 PM, Alan Coopersmith wrote: Paul Gress wrote: If their pushing to the main OpenSolaris gates every day, why hasn't anything been released. Why cannot I upgrade to b135, b136 or b137? Every previous time we've had a release in progress, updates to /dev stopped while

Re: [osol-discuss] So when are we gonna fork this sucker?

2010-04-14 Thread Martin Bochnig
On Wed, Apr 14, 2010 at 7:52 PM, Paul Gress pgr...@optonline.net wrote: On 04/14/10 12:12 PM, Alan Coopersmith wrote: Paul Gress wrote: If their pushing to the main OpenSolaris gates every day, why hasn't anything been released. Why cannot I upgrade to b135, b136 or b137? Every previous

Re: [osol-discuss] Crash analysis help - reboot after panic: Freeing a free IOMMU page: paddr=0xccca2000

2010-04-14 Thread Bruno Sousa
Hi Brian, First off all let me thank you for your time spent on reading this issue. Regarding your comments , yes the defect 15601 has been logged by me .I will keep all those informations stored somewhere, and meantime if required i can upload the core file , and i haven't done so because i'm

Re: [osol-discuss] b137 based on tonic or otherwise

2010-04-14 Thread Giovanni Tirloni
On Wed, Apr 14, 2010 at 12:37 PM, Dennis Clarke dcla...@blastwave.orgwrote: On 04-14-10, Paul Gress pgr...@optonline.net wrote: I don't think he wants to start a new distro, he's looking to publishb137. That's about it in a nutshell. I have no shortage of build servers and thus I was

Re: [osol-discuss] So when are we gonna fork this sucker?

2010-04-14 Thread Paul Gress
On 04/14/10 01:11 PM, Martin Bochnig wrote: How can it appear to be ^frozen^? Then maybe you are not subscribed to the right lists. Appears and actual are two different things. What I mean by appears is nothing has been published as in some form of a binary release for me to upgrade

Re: [osol-discuss] So when are we gonna fork this sucker?

2010-04-14 Thread Giovanni Tirloni
On Wed, Apr 14, 2010 at 2:11 PM, Martin Bochnig mar...@martux.org wrote: During my life experience I learned one thing for sure: Distrust and impatience DESTROY EVERYTHING. Exactly, Oracle should pay attention to that. My analogy on this situation is like the drug pusher giving drugs to

Re: [osol-discuss] So when are we gonna fork this sucker?

2010-04-14 Thread Martin Bochnig
On Wed, Apr 14, 2010 at 8:25 PM, Paul Gress pgr...@optonline.net wrote: On 04/14/10 01:11 PM, Martin Bochnig wrote: How can it appear to be ^frozen^? Then maybe you are not subscribed to the right lists. Appears and actual are two different things.  What I mean by appears is nothing has

Re: [osol-discuss] So when are we gonna fork this sucker?

2010-04-14 Thread Paul Gress
On 04/14/10 01:34 PM, Giovanni Tirloni wrote: Sounds like you are experienced ;-) Personal attacks rarely will help you make your point so please stop it. I didn't take is as a personal attack, I saw the smiley face, it was meant as a joke. Paul

Re: [osol-discuss] So when are we gonna fork this sucker?

2010-04-14 Thread Martin Bochnig
On Wed, Apr 14, 2010 at 8:46 PM, Paul Gress pgr...@optonline.net wrote: On 04/14/10 01:34 PM, Giovanni Tirloni wrote: Sounds like you are experienced     ;-) Personal attacks rarely will help you make your point so please stop it. I didn't take is as a personal attack, I saw the smiley

[osol-discuss] Fwd: [pkg-discuss] [REVIEW] backport-2009.06 fix for 11833

2010-04-14 Thread Martin Bochnig
Hello, I decided to forward this message, as most people seem to ignore the coding related lists. Maybe the subject gives a first clue or indicator, what Oracle plans for the future: Maybe the name 2009.06 stays the current release for a few more weeks. Whatever. It does not matter, because this

Re: [osol-discuss] So when are we gonna fork this sucker?

2010-04-14 Thread Matthias Pfützner
-Ursprüngliche Nachricht- But the difference was the community was informed.  It appears that everything was frozen.  I must say that I'm getting nervous.  I've been waiting since around the later b120's for b135, as this marked the first release with NWAM phase 1.  Now I see not even

Re: [osol-discuss] So when are we gonna fork this sucker?

2010-04-14 Thread Matthias Pfützner
They need their Opensolaris. THEIR? Who owns that distribution? And: if it's their's, they should be building it themselfes... Really, it seems, you do know what a community is, and how open source works... Matthias ___ opensolaris-discuss

Re: [osol-discuss] So when are we gonna fork this sucker?

2010-04-14 Thread Martin Bochnig
2010/4/14 Matthias Pfützner matth...@pfuetzner.de: They need their Opensolaris. THEIR? Who owns that distribution? And: if it's their's, they should be building it themselfes... Really, it seems, you do know what a community is, and how open source works... Matthias You

Re: [osol-discuss] b137 based on tonic or otherwise

2010-04-14 Thread David E. Anderson
While we're at it... I am running b134 and use the dev branch; when 2010.new comes out, how do I switch and stick with that until we get further along towards the 2010.Fall ( assuming these release issues get resolved)? On Wed, Apr 14, 2010 at 10:22 AM, Giovanni Tirloni

Re: [osol-discuss] So when are we gonna fork this sucker?

2010-04-14 Thread Matthias Pfützner
I can't manage that from my Nokia E71, and, yes, I quoted from a different email... Sorry, it's not been directed at you, Martin! Matthias -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: Martin Bochnig mar...@martux.org An: matth...@pfuetzner.de Cc: pgr...@optonline.net,

Re: [osol-discuss] So when are we gonna fork this sucker?

2010-04-14 Thread Martin Bochnig
2010/4/14 Matthias Pfützner matth...@pfuetzner.de: I can't manage that from my Nokia E71, and, yes, I quoted from a different email... Sorry, it's not been directed at you, Martin! Matthias Ok, no problem. I can imagine it can be hairy, when sending reply-all from a phone ... Thanks for

Re: [osol-discuss] b137 based on tonic or otherwise

2010-04-14 Thread Shawn Walker
On 04/14/10 01:33 PM, David E. Anderson wrote: While we're at it... I am running b134 and use the dev branch; when 2010.new comes out, how do I switch and stick with that until we get further along towards the 2010.Fall ( assuming these release issues get resolved)? Just set your client to use

Re: [osol-discuss] [website-discuss] Free OpenSolaris CD no longer offered

2010-04-14 Thread Chris Pickett
On Wed, Apr 14, 2010 at 4:55 PM, Derek Cicero derek.cic...@oracle.com wrote: FYI - Oracle is no longer offering a free OpenSolaris CD shipping program at this time. As a result, we have removed all links and icons from the opensolaris.org site. If you would like to download OpenSolaris, please

Re: [osol-discuss] b137 based on tonic or otherwise

2010-04-14 Thread Paul Gress
On 04/14/10 03:17 PM, Shawn Walker wrote: On 04/14/10 01:33 PM, David E. Anderson wrote: While we're at it... I am running b134 and use the dev branch; when 2010.new comes out, how do I switch and stick with that until we get further along towards the 2010.Fall ( assuming these release issues

Re: [osol-discuss] [website-discuss] Free OpenSolaris CD no longer offered

2010-04-14 Thread Martin Bochnig
On Wed, Apr 14, 2010 at 10:26 PM, Chris Pickett pkch...@users.sourceforge.net wrote: On Wed, Apr 14, 2010 at 4:55 PM, Derek Cicero derek.cic...@oracle.com wrote: FYI - Oracle is no longer offering a free OpenSolaris CD shipping program at this time. As a result, we have removed all links and

Re: [osol-discuss] [website-discuss] Free OpenSolaris CD no longer offered

2010-04-14 Thread Martin Bochnig
On Wed, Apr 14, 2010 at 10:48 PM, Andras Barna andras.ba...@gmail.com wrote: https://shipit.ubuntu.com/ Oh, thanks for the link. Maybe Oracle could learn from them. But I'm afraid, they could rather learn from Oracle! Because if they ship stuff around for free, work for free and want to benefit

Re: [osol-discuss] So when are we gonna fork this sucker?

2010-04-14 Thread Ben
Alan Coopersmith wrote: I assure you I have not touched anyones balls. Attacking the few f us still willing to communicate in public just further deteriorates the communication you're going to get - believe me, it's damn frustrating for us as well, and hard as we learn the difference

Re: [osol-discuss] [website-discuss] Free OpenSolaris CD no longer offered

2010-04-14 Thread ольга крыжановская
Martin, this world becomes only bitter cold if people let it down. If the community, Oracle included, sticks together and cooperates then the world may become a warmer, more friendly place to all of us. For your question about 'shipping disks for free' and a note to Derek/Valerie: Our family get

Re: [osol-discuss] [website-discuss] Free OpenSolaris CD no longer offered

2010-04-14 Thread Uros Nedic
Canonical after *only* five years of operation became profitable Company. Uros Date: Wed, 14 Apr 2010 22:54:59 +0300 From: mar...@martux.org To: andras.ba...@gmail.com CC: website-disc...@opensolaris.org; opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org; opensolaris-annou...@opensolaris.org Subject:

Re: [osol-discuss] [website-discuss] Free OpenSolaris CD no longer offered

2010-04-14 Thread Calum Benson
On 14/04/2010 20:48, Andras Barna wrote: https://shipit.ubuntu.com/ And, ironically: http://www.labnol.org/software/download/order-free-linux-dvd-kits-oracle-shipping-worldwide/3454/ Cheeri, Calum. -- CALUM BENSON, Interaction Designer Oracle Corporation, Ireland mailto:calum.benson at

Re: [osol-discuss] [website-discuss] Free OpenSolaris CD no longer offered

2010-04-14 Thread Martin Bochnig
2010/4/14 ольга крыжановская olga.kryzhanov...@gmail.com: Martin, this world becomes only bitter cold if people let it down. If the community, Oracle included, sticks together and cooperates then the world may become a warmer, more friendly place to all of us. Hi Olga, no. The only thing that

Re: [osol-discuss] [website-discuss] Free OpenSolaris CD no longer offered

2010-04-14 Thread Martin Bochnig
On Wed, Apr 14, 2010 at 11:09 PM, Calum Benson calum.ben...@oracle.com wrote: On 14/04/2010 20:48, Andras Barna wrote: https://shipit.ubuntu.com/ And, ironically: http://www.labnol.org/software/download/order-free-linux-dvd-kits-oracle-shipping-worldwide/3454/ Cheeri, Calum. Ohh

Re: [osol-discuss] [website-discuss] Free OpenSolaris CD no longer offered

2010-04-14 Thread Albert Lee
On Wed, 14 Apr 2010 22:41:19 +0300, Martin Bochnig mar...@martux.org wrote: On Wed, Apr 14, 2010 at 10:26 PM, Chris Pickett pkch...@users.sourceforge.net wrote: On Wed, Apr 14, 2010 at 4:55 PM, Derek Cicero derek.cic...@oracle.com wrote: FYI - Oracle is no longer offering a free OpenSolaris

Re: [osol-discuss] [laptop-discuss] So when are we gon na fork this sucker?

2010-04-14 Thread Albert Lee
On Wed, 14 Apr 2010 18:39:21 +0200, Jennifer Pioch piochjenni...@googlemail.com wrote: 2010/4/14 C. Bergström codest...@osunix.org: Jennifer Pioch wrote: On Wed, Apr 14, 2010 at 3:44 PM, Chad Welsh unixphr...@mac.com wrote: Well we have heard from one of the OGB members about forking this

Re: [osol-discuss] [laptop-discuss] So when are we gonna fork this sucker?

2010-04-14 Thread C. Bergström
Jennifer Pioch wrote: 2010/4/14 C. Bergström codest...@osunix.org: Umm.. #1 Roland is only handling the cli bits (Which with his help I replaced a long time ago in osunix) No, Roland has an own dropin replacement for libc_i18n.a using the FreeBSD and AST sources as base for his

Re: [osol-discuss] [website-discuss] Free OpenSolaris CD no longer offered

2010-04-14 Thread Andras Barna
https://shipit.ubuntu.com/ On Wed, Apr 14, 2010 at 10:41 PM, Martin Bochnig mar...@martux.org wrote: On Wed, Apr 14, 2010 at 10:26 PM, Chris Pickett pkch...@users.sourceforge.net wrote: On Wed, Apr 14, 2010 at 4:55 PM, Derek Cicero derek.cic...@oracle.com wrote: FYI - Oracle is no longer

Re: [osol-discuss] [website-discuss] Free OpenSolaris CD no longer offered

2010-04-14 Thread Martin Bochnig
On Wed, Apr 14, 2010 at 11:39 PM, Albert Lee tr...@opensolaris.org wrote: On Wed, 14 Apr 2010 22:41:19 +0300, Martin Bochnig mar...@martux.org wrote: On Wed, Apr 14, 2010 at 10:26 PM, Chris Pickett pkch...@users.sourceforge.net wrote: On Wed, Apr 14, 2010 at 4:55 PM, Derek Cicero

Re: [osol-discuss] [website-discuss] Free OpenSolaris CD no longer offered

2010-04-14 Thread Shawn Walker
On 04/14/10 03:07 PM, Uros Nedic wrote: Canonical after *only* five years of operation became profitable Company. As late as Dec. 2009, Mark Shuttlesworth said they were not yet profitable: http://www.linuxinsider.com/story/68923.html?wlc=1271278394 Cheers, -Shawn

Re: [osol-discuss] [ogb-discuss] Fwd: [pkg-discuss] [REVIEW] backport-2009.06 fix for 11833

2010-04-14 Thread Albert Lee
On Wed, 14 Apr 2010 21:13:32 +0300, Martin Bochnig mar...@martux.org wrote: Hello, I decided to forward this message, as most people seem to ignore the coding related lists. Maybe the subject gives a first clue or indicator, what Oracle plans for the future: Maybe the name 2009.06 stays the

Re: [osol-discuss] [ogb-discuss] Fwd: [pkg-discuss] [REVIEW] backport-2009.06 fix for 11833

2010-04-14 Thread Martin Bochnig
On Wed, Apr 14, 2010 at 11:59 PM, Albert Lee tr...@opensolaris.org wrote: On Wed, 14 Apr 2010 21:13:32 +0300, Martin Bochnig mar...@martux.org wrote: Hello, I decided to forward this message, as most people seem to ignore the coding related lists. Maybe the subject gives a first clue or

Re: [osol-discuss] iSCSI broken in snv_134?

2010-04-14 Thread Paul F
Interesting - I found this: http://blogs.sun.com/dweibel/entry/solaris_ready_equallogic It's about Solaris 10, but OpenSolaris will use the new driver also - right? Note what it says about Equalogic firmware versions. -- This message posted from opensolaris.org

Re: [osol-discuss] iSCSI broken in snv_134?

2010-04-14 Thread Daniel Carosone
On Tue, Apr 13, 2010 at 03:59:37AM -0700, Paul F wrote: Basically iSCSI works perfectly under 0906 but not under snv_134. It's been stuffed for me since at least b~128. It works when the package is first installed. After a reboot, the svc start method exits with code 255 and no further clues.

Re: [osol-discuss] So when are we gonna fork this sucker?

2010-04-14 Thread Calum Benson
On 14/04/2010 20:55, Ben wrote: Alan, I agree with everything you say. The problem is, as everyone keeps saying, that the community that isn't attached to the company knows nothing about what's going on. It's a tad frustrating getting nothing from Oracle about the next release. Slightly

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