[openstack-dev] Nominating Tetsuro Nakamura for placement-core

2018-09-19 Thread Chris Dent
o need to be an existing placement core, everyone with an interest is welcome. Thanks. -- Chris Dent ٩◔̯◔۶ https://anticdent.org/ reenode: cdent tw: @anticdent_

[openstack-dev] [placement] update 18-38

2018-09-21 Thread Chris Dent
open placement patches](https://review.openstack.org/#/q/project:openstack/placement+status:open) and patches from everywhere which [mention placement in the commit message](https://review.openstack.org/#/q/message:placement+status:open). # End In case anyone is wondering where I am, I&#x

[openstack-dev] [placement] Tetsuro Nakamura now core

2018-09-27 Thread Chris Dent
Since there were no objections and a week has passed, I've made Tetsuro a member of placement-core. Thanks for your willingness and continued help. Use your powers wisely. -- Chris Dent ٩◔̯◔۶ https://anticdent.org/ freenode:

[openstack-dev] [qa] [infra] [placement] tempest plugins virtualenv

2018-09-28 Thread Chris Dent
have the plugin installed, thus no gabbi tests are found: http://logs.openstack.org/14/601614/21/check/placement-tempest-gabbi/f44c185/job-output.txt.gz#_2018-09-28_11_13_25_798683 How do I get my plugin installed into the right venv while still following the guidelines for good zuul be

Re: [openstack-dev] [qa] [infra] [placement] tempest plugins virtualenv

2018-09-28 Thread Chris Dent
ng to try to get the gabbits in the right place is not working as desired. A few patchsets ago when I was using the oogly way of doing things it was all working. -- Chris Dent ٩◔̯◔۶ https://anticdent.org/ freenode: cdent

[openstack-dev] [placement] update 18-39

2018-09-28 Thread Chris Dent
s:open) and patches from everywhere which [mention placement in the commit message](https://review.openstack.org/#/q/message:placement+status:open). # End Taking a few days off is a great way to get out of sync. -- Chris Dent ٩◔̯◔۶ https://anticdent.org/ freen

Re: [openstack-dev] [placement] The "intended purpose" of traits

2018-09-28 Thread Chris Dent
at have or do not have a specific trait. This has the effect of making the meaning of a trait a descriptor of the resource provider. What the descriptor signifies is up to the thing creating and using the resource provider, not place

Re: [openstack-dev] [placement] The "intended purpose" of traits

2018-09-28 Thread Chris Dent
here, but I have no interest in being a fundamentalist about it. We should argue about it strongly to make sure we get the right result, but it's not a huge deal either way. -- Chris Dent ٩◔̯◔۶

Re: [openstack-dev] [placement] The "intended purpose" of traits

2018-10-01 Thread Chris Dent
people do things. In the context of the orchestration between nova and ironic and how that interaction happens, nova has every right to set some guidelines if it needs to. -- Chris Dent ٩◔̯◔۶

Re: [openstack-dev] [placement] [infra] [qa] tuning some zuul jobs from "it works" to "proper"

2018-10-02 Thread Chris Dent
effectively "run the gabbits in these dirs" against a tempest set up. Doing so will require some minor changes to the tempest tox passenv settings but I think it ought to straightforwardish. Some reviews from people who understand these things more than me would be most welcome. --

[openstack-dev] [tc] [all] TC Report 18-40

2018-10-02 Thread Chris Dent
lcoming the newly elected members of the TC: Lance Bragstad, Jean-Philippe Evrard, Doug Hellman, Julia Kreger, Ghanshyam Mann, and Jeremy Stanley. -- Chris Dent ٩◔̯◔۶ https://anticdent.org/ freenode: cdent

Re: [openstack-dev] [placement] [infra] [qa] tuning some zuul jobs from "it works" to "proper"

2018-10-03 Thread Chris Dent
On Tue, 2 Oct 2018, Chris Dent wrote: One of the comments in there is about the idea of making a zuul job which is effectively "run the gabbits in these dirs" against a tempest set up. Doing so will require some minor changes to the tempest tox passenv settings but I think i

Re: [openstack-dev] [placement] [infra] [qa] tuning some zuul jobs from "it works" to "proper"

2018-10-04 Thread Chris Dent
On Wed, 3 Oct 2018, Chris Dent wrote: I'd really like to see this become a real thing, so if I could get some help from tempest people on how to make it in line with expectations that would be great. I've written up the end game of what I'm trying to achieve in a bit more

Re: [openstack-dev] [tc] bringing back formal TC meetings

2018-10-05 Thread Chris Dent
n the day when there were weekly meetings. The "raising hands" thing that came along towards the end sort of worked, so a variant on that may be sufficient. -- Chris Dent ٩◔̯◔۶ https://anticdent.org/ freenode: cdent

[openstack-dev] [placement] update 18-40

2018-10-05 Thread Chris Dent
stack.org/#/c/601407/> WIP: Add placement to devstack-gate PROJECTS * <https://review.openstack.org/#/c/586960/> zun: Use placement for unified resource management # End I'm going to be away next week, s

Re: [openstack-dev] [oslo][taskflow] Thoughts on moving taskflow out of openstack/oslo

2018-10-15 Thread Chris Dent
xplicitly, that they would not bother contributing if they had to go through what they perceive to be the OpenStack hoops. That's anecdata, but for me it is pretty compelling. -- Chris Dent ٩◔̯◔۶ https://anticdent.org/ freenode: cdent

Re: [openstack-dev] [tc][all] Discussing goals (upgrades) with community @ office hours

2018-10-15 Thread Chris Dent
how things got away from them. For community goals, in particular, preferring email for discussion and planning seems pretty key. I wonder if instead of specifying topics for TC office hours, we kill them instead? They've turned into gossiping echo chambers. -- Chris Dent

[openstack-dev] [all] [tc] [api] Paste Maintenance

2018-10-15 Thread Chris Dent
king happily in Python 3.7. [1] http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2018-August/132792.html [2] https://bitbucket.org/ianb/paste [3] https://bitbucket.org/ianb/paste/pull-requests/41/python-37-support/diff -- Chris Dent ٩◔̯◔۶ https://anticdent.org/

[openstack-dev] [placement] devstack, grenade, database management

2018-10-16 Thread Chris Dent
pport other databases during the upgrade, captured in this change https://review.openstack.org/#/c/604028/ [1] There's a stack of code for enabling placement integration tests starting at https://review.openstack.org/#/c/601614/ . It depends on the devstack changes. -- Chris Dent

[openstack-dev] [placement] update 18-42

2018-10-19 Thread Chris Dent
WIP: Add placement to devstack-gate PROJECTS This was done somewhere else wasn't it, so could this be abandoned? * <https://review.openstack.org/#/c/586960/> zun: Use placement for unified resource management # End Hi! -- Chris Dent ٩◔̯◔۶ https://antic

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] [tc] [api] Paste Maintenance

2018-10-22 Thread Chris Dent
On Fri, 19 Oct 2018, Thierry Carrez wrote: Ed Leafe wrote: On Oct 15, 2018, at 7:40 AM, Chris Dent wrote: I'd like some input from the community on how we'd like this to go. I would say it depends on the long-term plans for paste. Are we planning on weaning ourselves off of

Re: [openstack-dev] Proposal for a process to keep up with Python releases

2018-10-22 Thread Chris Dent
nscious actions, awareness and self-testing by each project to move forward to a thing with a reasonable name (the cycle name). I don't think we should call that "churn". "Intention" might be a better word. -- Chris Dent ٩◔̯◔۶

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] [tc] [api] Paste Maintenance

2018-10-23 Thread Chris Dent
On Mon, 22 Oct 2018, Chris Dent wrote: Thus far I'm not hearing any volunteers. If that continues to be the case, I'll just keep it on bitbucket as that's the minimal change. As there was some noise that suggested "if you make it use git I might help", I put

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] [tc] [api] Paste Maintenance

2018-10-24 Thread Chris Dent
[1] work is in progress to make using something else easier for people. If you want to help with Paste, make some issues and pull requests in the repo above. Thanks. Next step? paste.deploy (which is a separate repo). [1] http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2018-October/135937.html

[openstack-dev] [placement] update 18-43

2018-10-26 Thread Chris Dent
Harden placement init under wsgi * <https://review.openstack.org/#/q/topic:cd/gabbi-tempest-job> Using gabbi-tempest for integration tests. * <https://review.openstack.org/#/c/613118/> Make tox -ereleasenotes work * <https://review.openstack.org/#

[openstack-dev] [qa] [api] [all] gabbi-tempest for integration tests

2018-10-29 Thread Chris Dent
me know if you have any questions or if you are interested in helping to make gabbi-tempest more complete and well documented. I've been approving my own code the past few patches and that feels a bit dirty. -- Chris Dent ٩◔̯◔۶ https://antic

Re: [openstack-dev] [tripleo][openstack-ansible][nova][placement] Owners needed for placement extraction upgrade deployment tooling

2018-10-30 Thread Chris Dent
those steps can translate to both the ansible and tripleo environments. Please feel free to add me to any of the reviews and come calling in #openstack-placement with questions if there are any. -- Chris Dent ٩◔̯◔۶ https://anticdent.org/ freenode:

Re: [openstack-dev] [tripleo][openstack-ansible][nova][placement] Owners needed for placement extraction upgrade deployment tooling

2018-10-31 Thread Chris Dent
On Wed, 31 Oct 2018, Eduardo Gonzalez wrote: - Run db syncs as there is not command for that yet in the master branch - Apply upgrade process for db changes The placement-side pieces for this are nearly ready, see the stack beginning at https://review.openstack.org/#/c/611441/ -- Chris Dent

Re: [openstack-dev] [api] API Usability study at Barcelona Summit

2016-09-20 Thread Chris Dent
ad.openstack.org/p/osux-api-oct2016 Thanks, Thank you. -- Chris Dent ┬─┬ノ( º _ ºノ)https://anticdent.org/ freenode: cdent tw: @anticdent__ OpenStack Development Ma

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] Useful tool for easier viewing of IRC logs online

2016-09-21 Thread Chris Dent
e code is linked from the blog post. -- Chris Dent ┬─┬ノ( º _ ºノ)https://anticdent.org/ freenode: cdent tw: @anticdent__ OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage qu

[openstack-dev] [all][api] POST /api-wg/news

2016-09-22 Thread Chris Dent
[5]: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/api_wg/ [6]: https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/api-wg,n,z [7]: Thread starting at http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2016-September/103988.html -- Chris Dent ┬─┬ノ( º _ ºノ)https://anticdent.org/ freen

[openstack-dev] TC candidacy

2016-09-28 Thread Chris Dent
lways be more of those). We need to keep looking and pushing forward. To that end I'm nominating myself to be a member of the Technical Committee. If you have specific questions about my goals, my background or anything else, please feel free to ask. I'm on IRC as cdent or send some email

Re: [openstack-dev] TC candidacy

2016-09-28 Thread Chris Dent
in addition to the git log, are something to consider for TC activity. -- Chris Dent ┬─┬ノ( º _ ºノ)https://anticdent.org/ freenode: cdent tw: @anticdent__ OpenStack Deve

Re: [openstack-dev] TC candidacy

2016-09-29 Thread Chris Dent
in the election :) Yeah, that sounds good. Please keep me involved. -- Chris Dent ┬─┬ノ( º _ ºノ)https://anticdent.org/ freenode: cdent tw: @anticdent__ OpenStack Deve

[openstack-dev] [nova][placement] placement newton leftovers

2016-10-02 Thread Chris Dent
s the knee?) * Tempest or other form of integration test (currently we can only evaluate success of resource tracker + placement api by lack of smoke, no real details) -- Chris Dent ┬─┬ノ( º _ ºノ

Re: [openstack-dev] TC candidacy

2016-10-03 Thread Chris Dent
s for prompting this. 1. This is a great example how much this attitude of "full contact community engagement" is *needed* and how much it's *lacking* with the current set of representatives -> http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2016-September/103223.html - not surpri

Re: [openstack-dev] [tc] open question to the candidates

2016-10-03 Thread Chris Dent
issues you'd like the TC address in the coming year? I ended up getting overly excited in my response to Clay and answering over there. So by the power of hypertext: http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2016-October/105000.html -- Chris Dent ┬─┬ノ( º

Re: [openstack-dev] [telemetry] Deprecating the Ceilometer API

2016-10-04 Thread Chris Dent
ering (and to some extent transforming) parts are the only parts of ceilometer that are particularly unique so it would be good for those to be preserved. -- Chris Dent ┬─┬ノ( º _ ºノ)https://anticdent.org/ freenode: cdent

Re: [openstack-dev] [elections][tc]Thoughts on the TC election process

2016-10-04 Thread Chris Dent
then we should either have TC elections every week or come up with some other catalysts. -- Chris Dent ┬─┬ノ( º _ ºノ)https://anticdent.org/ freenode: cdent tw: @anticdent_

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] Draft Ocata design summit schedule is up

2016-10-06 Thread Chris Dent
involvement in it but are concerned about Nova to feel excluded. [1] https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/nova-newton-retrospective -- Chris Dent ┬─┬ノ( º _ ºノ)https://anticdent.org/ freenode: cdent

[openstack-dev] [all][api] POST /api-wg/news

2016-10-06 Thread Chris Dent
nstack.org/meetings/api_wg/ [6]: https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/api-wg,n,z [7]: Thread starting at http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2016-October/105198.html -- Chris Dent ┬─┬ノ( º _ ºノ)https://anticdent.org/ freen

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova][placement] placement newton leftovers

2016-10-07 Thread Chris Dent
On Sun, 2 Oct 2016, Chris Dent wrote: I'm posting this as it would be great to get some feedback on: * which of these things matter * what is missing from the list * how (or if) we should formalize the doing of the work * who would like to help out in the doing (getting some help is the

Re: [openstack-dev] [elections][tc]Thoughts on the TC election process

2016-10-11 Thread Chris Dent
emonstrated, perhaps it needs to be formalized? * [your idea here please] [1] http://governance.openstack.org/reference/principles.html#changes-in-leadership-are-good -- Chris Dent ┬─┬ノ( º _ ºノ)https://anticdent.org/ freenode: cdent

Re: [openstack-dev] [elections][tc]Thoughts on the TC election process

2016-10-11 Thread Chris Dent
only realistic way to go. I mention it more as a way jumping off point for further thinking than a concrete proposal. -- Chris Dent ┬─┬ノ( º _ ºノ)https://anticdent.org/ freenode: cdent

Re: [openstack-dev] Event notification descriptors/schemas (? swagger ?)

2016-10-11 Thread Chris Dent
ee that siloing the stuff in the code is bad in the long term, but I guess it is good that it has started somewhere. -- Chris Dent ┬─┬ノ( º _ ºノ)https://anticdent.org/ freenode: cdent

Re: [openstack-dev] PTG from the Ops Perspective - a few short notes

2016-10-12 Thread Chris Dent
ed mostly on the economic power their corporate patrons are willing to wield for them. And finally it feels like we are making it harder for more people to be engaged in cross project work. I'm certain that none of these things are the desired outcomes. What can we do to clarify the situation an

Re: [openstack-dev] PTG from the Ops Perspective - a few short notes

2016-10-17 Thread Chris Dent
doing real things with OpenStack. -- Chris Dent ┬─┬ノ( º _ ºノ)https://anticdent.org/ freenode: cdent tw: @anticdent__ OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for

Re: [openstack-dev] [api] [searchlight] Duplicate parameter names

2016-10-17 Thread Chris Dent
most important. Trying to achieve strict consistency on query parameters across the entire breadth of OpenStack isn't being considerate of the differents contexts of use and users. [1] https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/API-WG#Agenda -- Chris Dent

[openstack-dev] [all] indoor climbing break at summit?

2016-10-17 Thread Chris Dent
http://www.sharmaclimbingbcn.com/en/gym/ -- Chris Dent ┬─┬ノ( º _ ºノ)https://anticdent.org/ freenode: cdent tw: @anticdent__ OpenStack Development Mailing Lis

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] indoor climbing break at summit?

2016-10-17 Thread Chris Dent
ng is dangerous. If you choose to climb, it is at your own risk. (Sharma's people will take care of that in the registration.) -- Chris Dent ┬─┬ノ( º _ ºノ)https://anticdent.org/ freenode: cdent

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] indoor climbing break at summit?

2016-10-18 Thread Chris Dent
an etherpad where we can accumulate some plans, and also linked a doodle poll in there to figure out some good ideas for when. If I should put more day time slots into the poll, let me know. https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/ocata-climb -- Chris Dent ┬─┬ノ( º _ ºノ)https:

[openstack-dev] [api] [nova] microversion edge case query

2016-10-18 Thread Chris Dent
ard to some of the proxy APIs at the nova midcycle but I can't remember the details of the outcome. (Of course one way to avoid this conundrum is to not allow it either by crook or convention, but that seems to limit the power of microversions to turn things off. A power that is important to ha

Re: [openstack-dev] [requirements][lbaas] gunicorn to g-r

2016-10-18 Thread Chris Dent
GI server. One could, if one wanted, hosted a pecan based application with gunicorn. Or uwsgi. Or apache+mod_wsgi. Or nginx+uwsgi. Or a bunch of other stuff. -- Chris Dent ┬─┬ノ( º _ ºノ)https://anticdent.org/ freenode: cdent

Re: [openstack-dev] [api] [nova] microversion edge case query

2016-10-18 Thread Chris Dent
On Tue, 18 Oct 2016, Chris Dent wrote: If the requested microversion is greater than the maximum, a 404 still makes some sense (no mapping _now_), but a 406 could as well because it provides a signal that if you used a different microversion the situation could be different and the time

Re: [openstack-dev] Does it make sense to have self links to things that don't exist?

2016-10-21 Thread Chris Dent
uld the link to the non-existent handler just be removed? If the discovery doc is for discovering stuff, it shouldn't list stuff that doesn't exist. That's pretty simple and straightforward, right? How could it be anything else? -- Chris Dent ┬─┬ノ( º _ ºノ)h

Re: [openstack-dev] Endpoint structure: a free-for-all

2016-10-21 Thread Chris Dent
one and only one‽) * dynamic v static service catalogs in the face of different contexts * whatever else I'm forgetting right now because the coffee is weak but I'm sure someone else remembers -- Chris Dent ┬─┬ノ( º _ ºノ)https://anticdent.org/ fre

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] indoor climbing break at summit?

2016-10-21 Thread Chris Dent
at the gym at the chosen time. https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/ocata-climb -- Chris Dent ┬─┬ノ( º _ ºノ)https://anticdent.org/ freenode: cdent tw: @anticdent__

Re: [openstack-dev] [api] [nova] microversion edge case query

2016-10-21 Thread Chris Dent
have said has been convincing, I've updated the code at: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/388115/ Jay's review of that has raised a new issue: which is should we even bother with the decorator style? -- Chris Dent ┬─┬ノ( º _ ºノ)https://anticdent.org/ freen

[openstack-dev] [all][api] POST /api-wg/news

2016-11-03 Thread Chris Dent
t_the_Barcelona_Summit.21 -- Chris Dent ┬─┬ノ( º _ ºノ)https://anticdent.org/ freenode: cdent tw: @anticdent__ OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage question

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] Embracing new languages in OpenStack

2016-11-09 Thread Chris Dent
h other than in trust. We've got people who want to build stuff. Isn't that the important part? Let's just get on with making stuff and work out the problems (and of course there will be many, there always are) as they happen. That's what we do. -- Chris Dent ┬─┬ノ( º

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] Follow up on BCN review cadence discussions

2016-11-10 Thread Chris Dent
o trust people, and we will talk about it all (better than we do now) because it won't work if we don't. That might work. It could be a mess, but it is better than an alternative which is feeling increasingly likely: People go elsewhere. -- Chris Dent ┬─┬ノ( º _ ºノ

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] Embracing new languages in OpenStack

2016-11-10 Thread Chris Dent
pers, users and operators that we have the capacity to adapt and learn for sake of new stuff that is good. [1] This is in fact a world I might want to live in, I like cats and dogs and dood, anarchy now, please. But I wouldn't presume to impose that here. -- Chris Dent

[openstack-dev] [all][api] POST /api-wg/news

2016-11-10 Thread Chris Dent
nstack.org/meetings/api_wg/ [6]: https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/api-wg,n,z -- Chris Dent ┬─┬ノ( º _ ºノ)https://anticdent.org/ freenode: cdent

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] Global changes to CI jobs using neutron

2016-11-10 Thread Chris Dent
On Thu, 10 Nov 2016, Matt Riedemann wrote: Heads up, we are a GO for neutron by default in Ocata jobs: This. Is. Awesome. Nice work by everyone involved. -- Chris Dent ┬─┬ノ( º _ ºノ)https://anticdent.org/ freenode: cdent tw

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] Follow up on BCN review cadence discussions

2016-11-10 Thread Chris Dent
ng the bait to respond in detail to something like this. But I felt the need to do so. I'm glad you did. I wish more people would. I really hate the way that people think communicating is such a drag and a bad thing. I know more now than I did before I read your message. Surely tha

[openstack-dev] [nova] placement/resource providers update

2016-11-11 Thread Chris Dent
ork out the details. # End Thanks for reading this far. If you have anything to add or have questions please post a response. -- Chris Dent ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ https://anticdent.org/ freenode: cdent tw: @anticdent_

[openstack-dev] [all][api] POST /api-wg/news

2016-11-17 Thread Chris Dent
ck.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/api-wg,n,z [7]: http://markmail.org/message/yr3ex6u6kcv4itty [8]: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/399131/ -- Chris Dent ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ https://anticdent.org/ freenode: cdent

Re: [openstack-dev] [api]

2016-11-18 Thread Chris Dent
1/ Thanks _very_ much for getting this started. -- Chris Dent ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ https://anticdent.org/ freenode: cdent tw: @anticdent__ OpenStack Development Mailing Lis

[openstack-dev] [nova] placement/resource providers update 2

2016-11-18 Thread Chris Dent
s is useful or could be more useful please let me know. -- Chris Dent ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ https://anticdent.org/ freenode: cdent tw: @anticdent__ OpenStack Development Ma

[openstack-dev] [api] 24 November api-wg meeting cancelled

2016-11-22 Thread Chris Dent
;d prefer to wait for the meeting please add it as a topic to the agenda[1]. Thanks! [1] https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/API-WG#Agenda -- Chris Dent ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ https://anticdent.org/ freenode: cdent

[openstack-dev] [nova] placement/resource providers update 3

2016-11-25 Thread Chris Dent
that microversions are being used on both sides of the placement API transactions (that's true in pending changes to both the API and the resource tracker) [6] http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2016-November/107177.html -- Chris Dent

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