Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] fair standards for all hypervisor drivers

2014-08-11 Thread Mark McLoughlin
On Fri, 2014-08-08 at 09:06 -0400, Russell Bryant wrote: On 08/07/2014 08:06 PM, Michael Still wrote: It seems to me that the tension here is that there are groups who would really like to use features in newer libvirts that we don't CI on in the gate. Is it naive to think that a possible

[openstack-dev] Python3 search path order when building Debian package

2014-08-11 Thread Thomas Goirand
Hi, During the build of oslo packages for OpenStack, I'm having the issue that python3 seems to first look into /usr/lib/python3.4/dist-packages/olso, finds stuff in it, and then do not search in the local directory. Because of that, unit tests are failing during the build. For example, when

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron][LBaaS] Improvements to current reviews

2014-08-11 Thread Susanne Balle
I agree with Doug as well. We should update the current patch. Susanne On Sun, Aug 10, 2014 at 8:18 AM, Gary Kotton gkot...@vmware.com wrote: Hi, I took a look at https://review.openstack.org/#/c/105331/ and had one minor issue which I think can be addressed. Prior to approving we need to

Re: [openstack-dev] Fwd: FW: [Neutron] Group Based Policy and the way forward

2014-08-11 Thread loy wolfe
Hi Sumit, First I want to say I'm not opposed to GBP itself, but has many confusion about it's core resource model and how it will integrate with neutron core. Do you mean for whatever GBP backend configured in any future Neutron deployment, so long as they are in tree, then ML2 core plugin

Re: [openstack-dev] [Octavia] Minutes from 8/6/2014 meeting

2014-08-11 Thread Susanne Balle
Great notes! thanks it helped me catch up after vacation. :) On Thu, Aug 7, 2014 at 4:33 AM, Stephen Balukoff sbaluk...@bluebox.net wrote: On where to capture notes like this long-term: I would say the wiki is more searchable for now. When we make the transition to IRC meetings, then the

[openstack-dev] [Heat] SoftwareDeployment resource is always in progress

2014-08-11 Thread david ferahi
Hello, I 'm trying to create a simple stack with heat (Icehouse release). The template contains SoftwareConfig, SoftwareDeployment and a single server resources. The problem is that the SoftwareDeployment resource is always in progress ! After waiting for more than an hour the stack deployment

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron] Simple proposal for stabilizing new features in-tree

2014-08-11 Thread Thierry Carrez
gustavo panizzo (gfa) wrote: only one think i didn't like it why all url,api, etc has to include the word 'preview'? i imagine that i would be consuming the new feature using heat, puppet, local scripts, custom horizon, whatever. Why do you make me to change all them when the feature moves

[openstack-dev] [keystone] how to generate conf sample in havana?

2014-08-11 Thread Li Tianqing
Hello, Right now, i customerized keystone to meet our requeriments. I want to add some configuration options in keystone.conf.sample. But, i do not find generate_sample.sh in directory tools in Havana keystone. So i want to know how to generate conf sample in havana keystone. I know, i can

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] The future of the integrated release

2014-08-11 Thread Thierry Carrez
Jeremy Stanley wrote: On 2014-08-08 09:43:54 -0700 (-0700), Devananda van der Veen wrote: [...] this sounds like it will also solve the current problem when a core reviewer has gone on vacation after blocking something for procedural reasons. I don't really think so, unless I'm

[openstack-dev] [Neutron][LBaaS] Use cases with regards to VIP and routers

2014-08-11 Thread Susanne Balle
Gang, I was asked the following questions around our Neutron LBaaS use cases: 1. Will there be a scenario where the “VIP” port will be in a different Node, from all the Member “VMs” in a pool. 2. Also how likely is it for the LBaaS configured subnet to not have a “router” and just use the

Re: [openstack-dev] [Fuel] Using host networking for docker containers

2014-08-11 Thread Aleksandr Didenko
Hi, we're running only 3 containers in privileged mode: cobbler, rsyslog and mcollective. Running all the containers in privileged mode is not a good idea for security reasons. Docker manages DNAT forwarding itself, so it does not create any overhead for us. Is there any real benefits of using

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] The future of the integrated release

2014-08-11 Thread Thierry Carrez
Eoghan Glynn wrote: The TC has begun to scrutinize new projects more carefully on technical grounds, particularly since some recently-integrated projects have run into scaling limitations that have hampered their adoption. I believe this sort of technical guidance (or curation, if you will)

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova][libvirt] Non-readonly connection to libvirt in unit tests

2014-08-11 Thread Daniel P. Berrange
On Mon, Aug 04, 2014 at 06:46:13PM -0400, Solly Ross wrote: Hi, I was wondering if there was a way to get a non-readonly connection to libvirt when running the unit tests on the CI. If I call `LibvirtDriver._connect(LibvirtDriver.uri())`, it works fine locally, but the upstream CI barfs

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] fair standards for all hypervisor drivers

2014-08-11 Thread Daniel P. Berrange
On Mon, Aug 11, 2014 at 08:57:31AM +1000, Michael Still wrote: On Sun, Aug 10, 2014 at 2:33 AM, Jeremy Stanley fu...@yuggoth.org wrote: On 2014-08-08 09:06:29 -0400 (-0400), Russell Bryant wrote: [...] We've seen several times that building and maintaining 3rd party CI is a *lot* of work.

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] fair standards for all hypervisor drivers

2014-08-11 Thread Daniel P. Berrange
On Fri, Aug 08, 2014 at 09:06:29AM -0400, Russell Bryant wrote: On 08/07/2014 08:06 PM, Michael Still wrote: It seems to me that the tension here is that there are groups who would really like to use features in newer libvirts that we don't CI on in the gate. Is it naive to think that a

Re: [openstack-dev] [Fuel] Using host networking for docker containers

2014-08-11 Thread Matthew Mosesohn
Moving to host networking would reduce our ability to do zero downtime upgrades in the future. It means you must kill the old container in order to start the new one, rather than allowing for the possibility to remap the network configuration in iptables. It's something we don't have now, but we

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] fair standards for all hypervisor drivers

2014-08-11 Thread Gary Kotton
In the past there was smokestack that used a fedora version of libvirt. Any idea what happened to that? On 8/11/14, 12:53 PM, Daniel P. Berrange berra...@redhat.com wrote: On Fri, Aug 08, 2014 at 09:06:29AM -0400, Russell Bryant wrote: On 08/07/2014 08:06 PM, Michael Still wrote: It seems to

[openstack-dev] [Neutron][LBaaS] Continuing on Calling driver interface on every API request

2014-08-11 Thread Vijay Venkatachalam
Hi: Continuing from last week's LBaaS meeting... Currently an entity cannot be sent to driver unless it is linked to loadbalancer because loadbalancer is the root object and driver information is only available with loadbalancer. The request to the driver is delayed because of which error

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] fair standards for all hypervisor drivers

2014-08-11 Thread Russell Bryant
On 08/11/2014 05:53 AM, Daniel P. Berrange wrote: There is work to add support for this in devestack already which I prefer since it makes it easy for developers to get an environment which matches the build system: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/108714/ Ah, cool. Devstack is indeed a

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] fair standards for all hypervisor drivers

2014-08-11 Thread Daniel P. Berrange
On Mon, Aug 11, 2014 at 07:58:41AM -0400, Russell Bryant wrote: On 08/11/2014 05:53 AM, Daniel P. Berrange wrote: There is work to add support for this in devestack already which I prefer since it makes it easy for developers to get an environment which matches the build system:

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] fair standards for all hypervisor drivers

2014-08-11 Thread Russell Bryant
On 08/09/2014 12:33 PM, Jeremy Stanley wrote: On 2014-08-08 09:06:29 -0400 (-0400), Russell Bryant wrote: [...] We've seen several times that building and maintaining 3rd party CI is a *lot* of work. Building and maintaining *any* CI is a *lot* of work, not the least of which is the

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] fair standards for all hypervisor drivers

2014-08-11 Thread Russell Bryant
On 08/11/2014 07:58 AM, Russell Bryant wrote: On 08/11/2014 05:53 AM, Daniel P. Berrange wrote: There is work to add support for this in devestack already which I prefer since it makes it easy for developers to get an environment which matches the build system:

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] fair standards for all hypervisor drivers

2014-08-11 Thread Russell Bryant
On 08/11/2014 08:01 AM, Daniel P. Berrange wrote: On Mon, Aug 11, 2014 at 07:58:41AM -0400, Russell Bryant wrote: On 08/11/2014 05:53 AM, Daniel P. Berrange wrote: There is work to add support for this in devestack already which I prefer since it makes it easy for developers to get an

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] The future of the integrated release

2014-08-11 Thread Jeremy Stanley
On 2014-08-11 11:02:52 +0200 (+0200), Thierry Carrez wrote: Ideally we'd want a blocking vote that carries over patchsets, but which can be set or unset by any core/driver/ptl (to be determined). So if the PTL sets the procedural Workflow-2 at feature freeze, I can clear it when RC1 is

[openstack-dev] [Nova] PCI support

2014-08-11 Thread Gary Kotton
Hi, At the moment all of the drivers are required CI support. Are there any plans regarding the PIC support. I understand that this is something that requires specific hardware. Are there any plans to add this? Thanks Gary ___ OpenStack-dev mailing

Re: [openstack-dev] Fwd: FW: [Neutron] Group Based Policy and the way forward

2014-08-11 Thread CARVER, PAUL
loy wolfe [mailto:loywo...@gmail.com] wrote: Then since Network/Subnet/Port will never be treated just as LEGACY COMPATIBLE role, there is no need to extend Nova-Neutron interface to follow the GBP resource. Anyway, one of optional service plugins inside Neutron shouldn't has any impact on Nova

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] fair standards for all hypervisor drivers

2014-08-11 Thread Jeremy Stanley
On 2014-08-11 08:04:34 -0400 (-0400), Russell Bryant wrote: Dang, I'd love to see those numbers. :-) Me too. Now that I'm not travelling I'll see if I can find out what he meant by that. Understood. Some questions ... is building an image that has libvirt and qemu pre-installed from source

[openstack-dev] [keystone] how to generate keystone.conf.sample in havana release?

2014-08-11 Thread Dolph Mathews
Unfortunately, there is no way to generate a sample conf in the Havana release. The etc/keystone.conf.sample included in Havana was maintained manually. In icehouse (and master), you can generate a sample configuration file using tox: $ tox -e sample_config Or run generate_sample.sh directly

Re: [openstack-dev] [sahara] Backports for 2014.1.2

2014-08-11 Thread Sergey Lukjanov
There were no proposals for additional backports for sahara 2014.1.2, so, I'm going to release it later today. On Thu, Aug 7, 2014 at 10:48 PM, Sergey Lukjanov slukja...@mirantis.com wrote: Hey sahara folks, I'm going to push 2014.1.2 tag to stable/icehouse branch next week, so, please,

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] fair standards for all hypervisor drivers

2014-08-11 Thread Russell Bryant
On 08/11/2014 09:17 AM, Jeremy Stanley wrote: On 2014-08-11 08:04:34 -0400 (-0400), Russell Bryant wrote: Dang, I'd love to see those numbers. :-) Me too. Now that I'm not travelling I'll see if I can find out what he meant by that. Understood. Some questions ... is building an image

[openstack-dev] [sahara] new client release (0.7.1)

2014-08-11 Thread Sergey Lukjanov
Hey sahara folks, the latest sahara client release was at Mar 29 (right after the fully completed renaming process) and so we have a lot of unreleased fixes and improvements. You can check diff [0] and launchpad's release page [1]. I'm going to release 0.7.1 this week, so, please propose

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] fair standards for all hypervisor drivers

2014-08-11 Thread Jeremy Stanley
On 2014-08-11 08:07:02 -0400 (-0400), Russell Bryant wrote: There's a pypi mirror at least. I'm not sure about mirroring other things. Right, that's a specific solution for mirroring the pypi.python.org cheeseshop. We've got our (Infra) sights set on mirroring Ubuntu and CentOS package

[openstack-dev] [designate] [neutron] designate and neutron integration

2014-08-11 Thread Miyashita, Kazuhiro
Hi, I want to ask about neutron and designate integration. I think dnsmasq fowards DNS request from instance to designate is better. ++ |DNS server(designate) | ++

[openstack-dev] [OSSN 0022] Nova Networking does not enforce security group rules following a soft reboot of an instance

2014-08-11 Thread Nathan Kinder
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Nova Networking does not enforce security group rules following a soft reboot of an instance - --- ### Summary ### In deployments using Nova Networking, security group rules associated with an instance may not be enforced after a soft reboot. Nova is

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] fair standards for all hypervisor drivers

2014-08-11 Thread Daniel P. Berrange
On Mon, Aug 11, 2014 at 01:45:56PM +, Jeremy Stanley wrote: On 2014-08-11 08:07:02 -0400 (-0400), Russell Bryant wrote: There's a pypi mirror at least. I'm not sure about mirroring other things. Right, that's a specific solution for mirroring the pypi.python.org cheeseshop. We've got

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron][LBaaS] Continuing on Calling driver interface on every API request

2014-08-11 Thread Samuel Bercovici
Hi, Validations such as timeout delay should be performed on the API level before it reaches the driver. For a configuration tree (lb, listeners, pools, etc.), there should be one provider. Having provider defined in multiple places does not make sense. -San. From: Vijay Venkatachalam

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] fair standards for all hypervisor drivers

2014-08-11 Thread Jeremy Stanley
On 2014-08-11 14:56:27 +0100 (+0100), Daniel P. Berrange wrote: If there are specific things we could do to libvirt.org / qemu.org download sites, to make mirroring easier or more reliable for OpenStack, we could certainly explore options there, since we know the right people involved in both

Re: [openstack-dev] [keystone] how to generate conf sample in havana?

2014-08-11 Thread Dolph Mathews
See here: http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2014-August/042573.html On Mon, Aug 11, 2014 at 3:53 AM, Li Tianqing jaze...@163.com wrote: Hello, Right now, i customerized keystone to meet our requeriments. I want to add some configuration options in keystone.conf.sample.

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova] PCI support

2014-08-11 Thread Robert Li (baoli)
Gary, Cisco is adding it in our CI testbed. I guess that mlnx is doing the same for their MD as well. —Robert On 8/11/14, 9:05 AM, Gary Kotton gkot...@vmware.commailto:gkot...@vmware.com wrote: Hi, At the moment all of the drivers are required CI support. Are there any plans regarding the

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron] Is network ordering of vNICs guaranteed?

2014-08-11 Thread CARVER, PAUL
Armando M. [mailto:arma...@gmail.com] wrote: On 9 August 2014 10:16, Jay Pipes jaypi...@gmail.com wrote: Paul, does this friend of a friend have a reproduceable test script for this? We would also need to know the OpenStack release where this issue manifest itself. A number of bugs have been

Re: [openstack-dev] [keystone] how to generate keystone.conf.sample in havana release?

2014-08-11 Thread Li Tianqing
Ok, thank you all the same. At 2014-08-11 09:31:19, Dolph Mathews dolph.math...@gmail.com wrote: Unfortunately, there is no way to generate a sample conf in the Havana release. The etc/keystone.conf.sample included in Havana was maintained manually. In icehouse (and master), you can generate a

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova] PCI support

2014-08-11 Thread Gary Kotton
Thanks for the update. From: Robert Li (baoli) ba...@cisco.commailto:ba...@cisco.com Reply-To: OpenStack List openstack-dev@lists.openstack.orgmailto:openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org Date: Monday, August 11, 2014 at 5:08 PM To: OpenStack List

Re: [openstack-dev] [OpenStack][InstanceGroup] metadetails and metadata in instance_group.py

2014-08-11 Thread Jay Pipes
On 08/10/2014 10:36 PM, Jay Lau wrote: I was asking this because I got a -2 for https://review.openstack.org/109505 , just want to know why this new term metadetails was invented when we already have details, metadata, system_metadata, instance_metadata, and properties (on images and volumes).

Re: [openstack-dev] [TripleO][heat] a small experiment with Ansible in TripleO

2014-08-11 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Steve Baker's message of 2014-08-10 15:33:26 -0700: On 02/08/14 04:07, Allison Randal wrote: A few of us have been independently experimenting with Ansible as a backend for TripleO, and have just decided to try experimenting together. I've chatted with Robert, and he says that

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron] Is network ordering of vNICs guaranteed?

2014-08-11 Thread Jay Pipes
Thanks, Paul! On 08/11/2014 10:10 AM, CARVER, PAUL wrote: Armando M. [mailto:arma...@gmail.com] wrote: On 9 August 2014 10:16, Jay Pipes jaypi...@gmail.com wrote: Paul, does this friend of a friend have a reproduceable test script for this? We would also need to know the OpenStack

Re: [openstack-dev] [OpenStack][InstanceGroup] metadetails and metadata in instance_group.py

2014-08-11 Thread Dan Smith
As the person who -2'd the review, I'm thankful you raised this issue on the ML, Jay. Much appreciated. The metadetails term isn't being invented in this patch, of course. I originally complained about the difference when this was being added:

Re: [openstack-dev] [OpenStack][InstanceGroup] metadetails and metadata in instance_group.py

2014-08-11 Thread Jay Pipes
On 08/11/2014 11:06 AM, Dan Smith wrote: As the person who -2'd the review, I'm thankful you raised this issue on the ML, Jay. Much appreciated. The metadetails term isn't being invented in this patch, of course. I originally complained about the difference when this was being added:

Re: [openstack-dev] [TripleO][heat] a small experiment with Ansible in TripleO

2014-08-11 Thread Zane Bitter
On 11/08/14 10:46, Clint Byrum wrote: Right now we're stuck with an update that just doesn't work. It isn't just about update-failure-recovery, which is coming along nicely, but it is also about the lack of signals to control rebuild, poor support for addressing machines as groups, and

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron] Simple proposal for stabilizing new features in-tree

2014-08-11 Thread Robert Kukura
On 8/11/14, 4:52 AM, Thierry Carrez wrote: gustavo panizzo (gfa) wrote: only one think i didn't like it why all url,api, etc has to include the word 'preview'? i imagine that i would be consuming the new feature using heat, puppet, local scripts, custom horizon, whatever. Why do you make me

Re: [openstack-dev] [Manila] Incubation request

2014-08-11 Thread Swartzlander, Ben
I just saw the agenda for tomorrow's TC meeting and we're on it. I plan to be there. https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings#Technical_Committee_meeting -Ben From: Swartzlander, Ben [mailto:ben.swartzlan...@netapp.com] Sent: Monday, July 28, 2014 9:53 PM To: openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org

[openstack-dev] [Fuel] 6.0 blueprints cleanup

2014-08-11 Thread Dmitry Pyzhov
We've moved all blueprints from 6.0 to 'next' milestone. It has been done in order to better view of stuff that we really want to implement in 6.0. Feature freeze for 6.0 release is planned to 18th of September. If you are going to merge your blueprint before that date, you can move it to 6.0

Re: [openstack-dev] [Fuel] 6.0 blueprints cleanup

2014-08-11 Thread Dmitry Borodaenko
All, Please refer to this email for a list of information that has to be populated in a blueprint before it can be assigned and scheduled: http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2014-August/042042.html Please don't schedule a blueprint to 6.0 until it has these details and its

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron][LBaaS] Continuing on Calling driver interface on every API request

2014-08-11 Thread Brandon Logan
Yeah what I meant was the only solution I could come up with so that the driver gets passed every call is to have the every entity have a provider. I do believe this is a bit cumbersome for a user, and extra validation would be needed to verify that two entities linked together cannot have

[openstack-dev] devstack local.conf file

2014-08-11 Thread Nikesh Kumar Mahalka
Hi, I have gone through devstack links. They are not clear like openstack.org documents. For Example: when i am using below local.conf file in devstack,hp_msa_driver is not coming in enabled_backends in cinder.conf after running stack.sh. [[local|localrc]] ADMIN_PASSWORD=vedams123

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron][LBaaS] Continuing on Calling driver interface on every API request

2014-08-11 Thread Doug Wiegley
Hi all, Validations such as ³timeout delay² should be performed on the API level before it reaches the driver. For a configuration tree (lb, listeners, pools, etc.), there should be one provider. You¹re right, but I think the point of Vijay¹s example was to highlight the combo error problem

Re: [openstack-dev] Which program for Rally

2014-08-11 Thread David Kranz
On 08/06/2014 05:48 PM, John Griffith wrote: I have to agree with Duncan here. I also don't know if I fully understand the limit in options. Stress test seems like it could/should be different (again overlap isn't a horrible thing) and I don't see it as siphoning off resources so not sure of

Re: [openstack-dev] [Fuel] 6.0 blueprints cleanup

2014-08-11 Thread Mike Scherbakov
+2, yes please On Mon, Aug 11, 2014 at 7:42 PM, Dmitry Borodaenko dborodae...@mirantis.com wrote: All, Please refer to this email for a list of information that has to be populated in a blueprint before it can be assigned and scheduled:

Re: [openstack-dev] [OpenStack][InstanceGroup] metadetails and metadata in instance_group.py

2014-08-11 Thread Gary Kotton
On 8/11/14, 6:06 PM, Dan Smith d...@danplanet.com wrote: As the person who -2'd the review, I'm thankful you raised this issue on the ML, Jay. Much appreciated. The metadetails term isn't being invented in this patch, of course. I originally complained about the difference when this was

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron][LBaaS] Use cases with regards to VIP and routers

2014-08-11 Thread Doug Wiegley
Hi Susanne, While there are a few operators involved with LBaaS that would have good input, you might want to also ask this on the non-dev mailing list, for a larger sample size. Thanks, doug On 8/11/14, 3:05 AM, Susanne Balle sleipnir...@gmail.com wrote: Gang, I was asked the following

Re: [openstack-dev] [neutron] [third-party] Freescale CI log site is being blocked

2014-08-11 Thread trinath.soman...@freescale.com
Hi- Today I contacted the service provider regarding the malware in the website. Got a response that website is truly functional and malware free. I too have verified all the directories, subdirectories and log files manually for any malware injected into the website. I have detected none.

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron][LBaaS] Continuing on Calling driver interface on every API request

2014-08-11 Thread Samuel Bercovici
Hi Doug, In some implementations Driver !== Device. I think this is also true for HA Proxy. This might mean that there is a difference between creating a logical object and when there is enough information to actually schedule/place this into a device. The ability to express such errors

Re: [openstack-dev] devstack local.conf file

2014-08-11 Thread Asselin, Ramy
Hi Nikesh, You need to set the enabled_backends in the local.conf file. e.g. [[post-config|$CINDER_CONF]] [DEFAULT] enabled_backends=hp_msa_driver [hp_msa_driver] volume_driver = cinder.volume.drivers.san.hp.hp_msa_fc.HPMSAFCDriver … Ramy From: Nikesh Kumar Mahalka

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron][LBaaS] Continuing on Calling driver interface on every API request

2014-08-11 Thread Doug Wiegley
Hi Sam, Very true. I think that Vijay’s objection is that we are currently imposing a logical structure on the driver, when it should be a driver decision. Certainly, it goes both ways. And I also agree that the mechanism for returning multiple errors, and the ability to specify whether those

Re: [openstack-dev] [OpenStack][InstanceGroup] metadetails and metadata in instance_group.py

2014-08-11 Thread Sylvain Bauza
Le 11/08/2014 18:03, Gary Kotton a écrit : On 8/11/14, 6:06 PM, Dan Smith d...@danplanet.com wrote: As the person who -2'd the review, I'm thankful you raised this issue on the ML, Jay. Much appreciated. The metadetails term isn't being invented in this patch, of course. I originally

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron] Simple proposal for stabilizing new features in-tree

2014-08-11 Thread Robert Kukura
On 8/8/14, 6:28 PM, Salvatore Orlando wrote: If we want to keep everything the way it is, we have to change everything [1] This is pretty much how I felt after reading this proposal, and I felt that this quote, which Ivar will probably appreciate, was apt to the situation. Recent events

Re: [openstack-dev] [designate] [neutron] designate and neutron integration

2014-08-11 Thread Carl Baldwin
kazuhiro MIYASHITA, I have done a lot of thinking about this. I have a blueprint on hold until Kilo for Neutron/Designate integration [1]. However, my blueprint doesn't quite address what you are going after here. An assumption that I have made is that Designate is an external or internet

Re: [openstack-dev] Fwd: FW: [Neutron] Group Based Policy and the way forward

2014-08-11 Thread Hemanth Ravi
On Fri, Aug 8, 2014 at 7:13 PM, Armando M. arma...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Aug 8, 2014 at 5:38 PM, Armando M. arma...@gmail.com wrote: One advantage of the service plugin is that one can leverage the neutron common framework such as Keystone authentication where common scoping is done.

Re: [openstack-dev] [designate] [neutron] designate and neutron integration

2014-08-11 Thread Hayes, Graham
kazuhiro MIYASHITA, As designate progresses with server pools, we aim to have support for a 'private' dns server, that could run within a neutron network - is that the level of integration you were referring to? That is, for the time being, a long term goal, and not covered by Carl's Kilo

Re: [openstack-dev] [oslo] oslo.concurrency repo review

2014-08-11 Thread Yuriy Taraday
On Mon, Aug 11, 2014 at 5:44 AM, Joshua Harlow harlo...@outlook.com wrote: One question from me: Will there be later fixes to remove oslo.config dependency/usage from oslo.concurrency? I still don't understand how oslo.concurrency can be used as a library with the configuration being set

Re: [openstack-dev] Which program for Rally

2014-08-11 Thread Zane Bitter
On 08/08/14 10:41, Anne Gentle wrote: - Would have to ensure Rally is what we want first as getting to be PTL since you are first to propose seems to be the model. I know that at one time it was popular in the trade/gutter press to cast aspersions on new projects by saying that someone

Re: [openstack-dev] [tc][ceilometer] Some background on the gnocchi project

2014-08-11 Thread Brad Topol
Hi Eoghan, Thanks for the note below. However, one thing the overview below does not cover is why InfluxDB (http://influxdb.com/) is not being leveraged. Many folks feel that this technology is a viable solution for the problem space discussed below. Thanks, Brad Brad Topol, Ph.D. IBM

Re: [openstack-dev] [TripleO][heat] a small experiment with Ansible in TripleO

2014-08-11 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Zane Bitter's message of 2014-08-11 08:16:56 -0700: On 11/08/14 10:46, Clint Byrum wrote: Right now we're stuck with an update that just doesn't work. It isn't just about update-failure-recovery, which is coming along nicely, but it is also about the lack of signals to control

[openstack-dev] [operstack-dev][Congress] congress-server fails

2014-08-11 Thread Rajdeep Dua
Following command gives an error ./*bin*/*congress*-*server* --config-file etc/congress.conf.sample Error i am getting is ImportError: No module named keystonemiddleware.auth_token Tried installing keystonemiddleware manually, got the following error $ sudo pip install keystonemiddleware

Re: [openstack-dev] [oslo.db]A proposal for DB read/write separation

2014-08-11 Thread Jay Pipes
Hi Li, comments inline. On 08/08/2014 12:03 AM, Li Ma wrote: Getting a massive amount of information from data storage to be displayed is where most of the activity happens in OpenStack. The two activities of reading data and writing (creating, updating and deleting) data are fundamentally

[openstack-dev] [Congress] congress-server fails to start

2014-08-11 Thread Rajdeep Dua
Hi All, command to start the congress-server fails $ ./bin/congress-server --config-file etc/congress.conf.sample Error : ImportError: No module named keystonemiddleware.auth_token Installing keystonemiddleware manually also fails $ sudo pip install keystonemiddleware Could not find a version

Re: [openstack-dev] [TripleO][heat] a small experiment with Ansible in TripleO

2014-08-11 Thread Steven Hardy
On Mon, Aug 11, 2014 at 11:20:50AM -0700, Clint Byrum wrote: Excerpts from Zane Bitter's message of 2014-08-11 08:16:56 -0700: On 11/08/14 10:46, Clint Byrum wrote: Right now we're stuck with an update that just doesn't work. It isn't just about update-failure-recovery, which is coming

Re: [openstack-dev] [oslo] oslo.concurrency repo review

2014-08-11 Thread Ben Nemec
On 08/11/2014 01:02 PM, Yuriy Taraday wrote: On Mon, Aug 11, 2014 at 5:44 AM, Joshua Harlow harlo...@outlook.com wrote: One question from me: Will there be later fixes to remove oslo.config dependency/usage from oslo.concurrency? I still don't understand how oslo.concurrency can be used

[openstack-dev] [Infra] Meeting Tuesday August 12th at 19:00 UTC

2014-08-11 Thread Elizabeth K. Joseph
Hi everyone, The OpenStack Infrastructure (Infra) team is hosting our weekly meeting on Tuesday August 12th, at 19:00 UTC in #openstack-meeting Meeting agenda available here: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/InfraTeamMeeting (anyone is welcome to to add agenda items) Everyone interested

Re: [openstack-dev] [TripleO][heat] a small experiment with Ansible in TripleO

2014-08-11 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Steven Hardy's message of 2014-08-11 11:40:07 -0700: On Mon, Aug 11, 2014 at 11:20:50AM -0700, Clint Byrum wrote: Excerpts from Zane Bitter's message of 2014-08-11 08:16:56 -0700: On 11/08/14 10:46, Clint Byrum wrote: Right now we're stuck with an update that just doesn't

[openstack-dev] [TripleO] reverting the HOT migration? // dealing with lockstep changes

2014-08-11 Thread Robert Collins
Hi, so shortly after the HOT migration landed, we hit https://bugs.launchpad.net/tripleo/+bug/1354305 which is that on even quite recently deployed clouds, the migrated templates were just too new. A partial revert (of just the list_join bit) fixes that, but a deeper problem emerged which is that

Re: [openstack-dev] [oslo] usage patterns for oslo.config

2014-08-11 Thread Doug Hellmann
On Aug 8, 2014, at 7:22 PM, Devananda van der Veen devananda@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Aug 8, 2014 at 12:41 PM, Doug Hellmann d...@doughellmann.com wrote: That’s right. The preferred approach is to put the register_opt() in *runtime* code somewhere before the option will be used. That

Re: [openstack-dev] [tc][ceilometer] Some background on the gnocchi project

2014-08-11 Thread Eoghan Glynn
Hi Eoghan, Thanks for the note below. However, one thing the overview below does not cover is why InfluxDB ( http://influxdb.com/ ) is not being leveraged. Many folks feel that this technology is a viable solution for the problem space discussed below. Great question Brad! As it happens

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron][LBaaS] Continuing on Calling driver interface on every API request

2014-08-11 Thread Vijay Venkatachalam
Yes, the point was to say the plugin need not restrict and let driver decide what to do with the API. Even if the call was made to driver instantaneously, I understand, the driver might decide to ignore first and schedule later. But, if the call is present, there is scope for validation.

Re: [openstack-dev] [oslo] oslo.concurrency repo review

2014-08-11 Thread Joshua Harlow
On Mon, Aug 11, 2014 at 11:39 AM, Ben Nemec openst...@nemebean.com wrote: On 08/11/2014 01:02 PM, Yuriy Taraday wrote: On Mon, Aug 11, 2014 at 5:44 AM, Joshua Harlow harlo...@outlook.com wrote: One question from me: Will there be later fixes to remove oslo.config dependency/usage

Re: [openstack-dev] [TripleO] reverting the HOT migration? // dealing with lockstep changes

2014-08-11 Thread Dan Prince
On Tue, 2014-08-12 at 06:58 +1200, Robert Collins wrote: Hi, so shortly after the HOT migration landed, we hit https://bugs.launchpad.net/tripleo/+bug/1354305 which is that on even quite recently deployed clouds, the migrated templates were just too new. A partial revert (of just the list_join

Re: [openstack-dev] [oslo] oslo.concurrency repo review

2014-08-11 Thread Joshua Harlow
On Mon, Aug 11, 2014 at 11:02 AM, Yuriy Taraday yorik@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Aug 11, 2014 at 5:44 AM, Joshua Harlow harlo...@outlook.com wrote: One question from me: Will there be later fixes to remove oslo.config dependency/usage from oslo.concurrency? I still don't understand how

Re: [openstack-dev] [oslo] oslo.concurrency repo review

2014-08-11 Thread Doug Hellmann
On Aug 11, 2014, at 3:26 PM, Joshua Harlow harlo...@outlook.com wrote: On Mon, Aug 11, 2014 at 11:02 AM, Yuriy Taraday yorik@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Aug 11, 2014 at 5:44 AM, Joshua Harlow harlo...@outlook.com wrote: One question from me: Will there be later fixes to remove

Re: [openstack-dev] [tc][ceilometer] Some background on the gnocchi project

2014-08-11 Thread Sandy Walsh
On 8/11/2014 4:22 PM, Eoghan Glynn wrote: Hi Eoghan, Thanks for the note below. However, one thing the overview below does not cover is why InfluxDB ( http://influxdb.com/ ) is not being leveraged. Many folks feel that this technology is a viable solution for the problem space discussed

Re: [openstack-dev] [oslo] oslo.concurrency repo review

2014-08-11 Thread Ben Nemec
On 08/11/2014 02:20 PM, Joshua Harlow wrote: On Mon, Aug 11, 2014 at 11:39 AM, Ben Nemec openst...@nemebean.com wrote: On 08/11/2014 01:02 PM, Yuriy Taraday wrote: On Mon, Aug 11, 2014 at 5:44 AM, Joshua Harlow harlo...@outlook.com wrote: One question from me: Will there be

Re: [openstack-dev] [oslo] oslo.concurrency repo review

2014-08-11 Thread Joshua Harlow
On Mon, Aug 11, 2014 at 12:47 PM, Doug Hellmann d...@doughellmann.com wrote: On Aug 11, 2014, at 3:26 PM, Joshua Harlow harlo...@outlook.com wrote: On Mon, Aug 11, 2014 at 11:02 AM, Yuriy Taraday yorik@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Aug 11, 2014 at 5:44 AM, Joshua Harlow

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron][LBaaS] Continuing on Calling driver interface on every API request

2014-08-11 Thread Eugene Nikanorov
Hi folks, That actually going in opposite direction to what flavor framework is trying to do (and for dispatching it's doing the same as providers). REST call dispatching should really go via the root object. I don't quite get the issue with health monitors. If HM is incorrectly configured prior

Re: [openstack-dev] Which program for Rally

2014-08-11 Thread Matthew Treinish
I apologize for the delay in my response to this thread, between travelling and having a stuck 'a' key on my laptop this is the earliest I could respond. I opted for a separate branch on this thread to summarize my views and I'll respond inline later on some of the previous discussion. On Wed,

Re: [openstack-dev] [tc][ceilometer] Some background on the gnocchi project

2014-08-11 Thread Eoghan Glynn
On 8/11/2014 4:22 PM, Eoghan Glynn wrote: Hi Eoghan, Thanks for the note below. However, one thing the overview below does not cover is why InfluxDB ( http://influxdb.com/ ) is not being leveraged. Many folks feel that this technology is a viable solution for the problem space

Re: [openstack-dev] [Congress] congress-server fails to start

2014-08-11 Thread Peter Balland
Hi Rajdeep, What version of pip are you running? Please try installing the latest version (https://pip.pypa.io/en/latest/installing.html) and run 'sudo pip install -r requirements.txt'. - Peter From: Rajdeep Dua rajdeep@gmail.commailto:rajdeep@gmail.com Reply-To: OpenStack

Re: [openstack-dev] [TripleO][heat] a small experiment with Ansible in TripleO

2014-08-11 Thread Zane Bitter
On 11/08/14 14:49, Clint Byrum wrote: Excerpts from Steven Hardy's message of 2014-08-11 11:40:07 -0700: On Mon, Aug 11, 2014 at 11:20:50AM -0700, Clint Byrum wrote: Excerpts from Zane Bitter's message of 2014-08-11 08:16:56 -0700: On 11/08/14 10:46, Clint Byrum wrote: Right now we're stuck

Re: [openstack-dev] Which program for Rally

2014-08-11 Thread David Kranz
On 08/11/2014 04:21 PM, Matthew Treinish wrote: I apologize for the delay in my response to this thread, between travelling and having a stuck 'a' key on my laptop this is the earliest I could respond. I opted for a separate branch on this thread to summarize my views and I'll respond

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron][LBaaS] Continuing on Calling driver interface on every API request

2014-08-11 Thread Brandon Logan
Hi Eugene, An example of the HM issue (and really this can happen with any entity) is if the driver the API sends the configuration to does not actually support the value of an attribute. For example: Provider A support PING health monitor type, Provider B does not. API allows the PING health

Re: [openstack-dev] [TripleO][Nova][Neutron] multiple hypervisors on one compute host - neutron agent and compute hostnames

2014-08-11 Thread Joe Gordon
On Tue, Aug 5, 2014 at 4:17 PM, Robert Collins robe...@robertcollins.net wrote: Hi! James has run into an issue implementing the multi-hypervisor spec ( http://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack/tripleo-specs/tree/specs/juno/tripleo-juno-deploy-cloud-hypervisor-type.rst ) which we're hoping

Re: [openstack-dev] [tc][ceilometer] Some background on the gnocchi project

2014-08-11 Thread Sandy Walsh
On 8/11/2014 5:29 PM, Eoghan Glynn wrote: On 8/11/2014 4:22 PM, Eoghan Glynn wrote: Hi Eoghan, Thanks for the note below. However, one thing the overview below does not cover is why InfluxDB ( http://influxdb.com/ ) is not being leveraged. Many folks feel that this technology is a viable

Re: [openstack-dev] [qa][ceilometer] swapping the roles of mongodb and sqlalchemy for ceilometer in Tempest

2014-08-11 Thread Joe Gordon
On Sat, Aug 9, 2014 at 6:29 AM, Eoghan Glynn egl...@redhat.com wrote: Hi Folks, Dina Belova has recently landed some infra patches[1,2] to create an experimental mongodb-based Tempest job. This effectively just overrides the ceilometer storage backend config so that mongodb is

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