OT: Re: 10g new features question for beta testers

2003-12-29 Thread Mogens Nørgaard
Oh yes, the RDD story is good. Carel-Jan and I were in Paris for Oracle World, sharing the horrendous costs of a hotel room, and having one final beer when the phone rang at 2 am. It was a Dane, and it was also one of Miracle's support customers. Since our motto for Miracle Support is "Call us

Re: 10g new features question for beta testers

2003-12-27 Thread Tim Gorman
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Re: 10g new features question for beta testers

2003-12-22 Thread Mogens Nørgaard
From: "Goulet, Dick" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: 2003/12/19 Fri AM 09:14:27 EST To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: RE: 10g new features question for beta testers That is not exactly a new feature. Or

RE: 10g new features question for beta testers

2003-12-22 Thread Carel-Jan Engel
-Original Message- Mogens Nørgaard Sent: Sunday, December 21, 2003 10:14 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L It's the Best of Breed versus One Vendor debate, and there are pros and cons galore. The perfect scenario, of course, is when they combine, so one vendor delivers the bes

RE: 10g new features question for beta testers

2003-12-22 Thread Pete Sharman
, I/O, everything. >> >>you only look at the tablespace level. you dont even >>install any software on it. If your on SAN, you dont >>install SAN software on it. >> >> >>>From: "Goulet, Dick" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>>Date: 2003/12/19 Fri A

Re: 10g new features question for beta testers

2003-12-22 Thread Connor McDonald
>considerably different. Its supposed to > > > > > >>manage everything. You dont give it a file, you > give > >>it entire disks and oracle does everything. Sets > up > >>files, manages, I/O, everything. > >> > >>you only look at the tablespace level. you

Re: 10g new features question for beta testers

2003-12-21 Thread Mogens Nørgaard
n it. If your on SAN, you dont install SAN software on it. From: "Goulet, Dick" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: 2003/12/19 Fri AM 09:14:27 EST To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: RE: 10g new features question for beta testers T

Re: RE: 10g new features question for beta testers

2003-12-19 Thread ryan_oracle
t; Date: 2003/12/19 Fri PM 01:14:29 EST > To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: RE: 10g new features question for beta testers > > I was in Reston last night, too. Also, Tom repeatedly > emphasized RMAN, which I've not spent enough time >

RE: RE: 10g new features question for beta testers

2003-12-19 Thread AdamDonahue
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RE: RE: 10g new features question for beta testers

2003-12-19 Thread Jared . Still
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RE: 10g new features question for beta testers

2003-12-19 Thread Michael Thomas
I was in Reston last night, too. Also, Tom repeatedly emphasized RMAN, which I've not spent enough time mastering, will be even more important in 10g. Does everyone here use RMAN that is using 9i currently? BTW. Tom mentioned SAME, as you say, but I can not remember what he said about it. Sorry. M

RE: RE: 10g new features question for beta testers

2003-12-19 Thread Pete Sharman
lespace level. you dont even > install any software on it. If your on SAN, you dont > install SAN software on it. > > > > From: "Goulet, Dick" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Date: 2003/12/19 Fri AM 09:14:27 EST > > To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L > <

RE: RE: 10g new features question for beta testers

2003-12-19 Thread Joe Frohne
s, manages, I/O, everything. > > you only look at the tablespace level. you dont even install any > software on it. If your on SAN, you dont install SAN software on it. >> >> From: "Goulet, Dick" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> Date: 2003/12/19 Fri AM 09:14:27 EST

RE: RE: 10g new features question for beta testers

2003-12-19 Thread Goulet, Dick
om: "Goulet, Dick" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Date: 2003/12/19 Fri AM 09:14:27 EST > > To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Subject: RE: 10g new features question for beta > testers > > > > That is not exactly a ne

Re: RE: 10g new features question for beta testers

2003-12-19 Thread Connor McDonald
PROTECTED]> > > Date: 2003/12/19 Fri AM 09:14:27 EST > > To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Subject: RE: 10g new features question for beta > testers > > > > That is not exactly a new feature. Oracle 9i has > Oracle M

RE: RE: 10g new features question for beta testers

2003-12-19 Thread Goulet, Dick
t; From: "Goulet, Dick" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Date: 2003/12/19 Fri AM 09:14:27 EST > To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: RE: 10g new features question for beta testers > > That is not exactly a new feature. Oracle 9i has Orac

Re: RE: 10g new features question for beta testers

2003-12-19 Thread ryan_oracle
dont install SAN software on it. > > From: "Goulet, Dick" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Date: 2003/12/19 Fri AM 09:14:27 EST > To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: RE: 10g new features question for beta testers > > That is not e

RE: 10g new features question for beta testers

2003-12-19 Thread Goulet, Dick
That is not exactly a new feature. Oracle 9i has Oracle Managed Files where you give it a directory and then just build tablespaces. The database picks the filenames for you. Now mind you it does work, but I'll be damned if I use it in anything other than a development environment. For some

Re: 10g new features (was: dc_used_extents ,dc_free_extents

2003-12-12 Thread Tanel Poder
Hi! > Tanel, > Thanks for sharing the presentation in the 10g features. > I started looking at the slides and I have a question about the "cross > platform transportable tablespaces" and the command you used. > From what I gather in the command I can take a Unix based datafile and > convert it

Re: 10g new features (was: dc_used_extents ,dc_free_extents

2003-12-12 Thread Ron Rogers
Tanel, Thanks for sharing the presentation in the 10g features. I started looking at the slides and I have a question about the "cross platform transportable tablespaces" and the command you used. From what I gather in the command I can take a Unix based datafile and convert it to a "Microsoft

RE: 10g new features (was: dc_used_extents ,dc_free_extents and d

2003-12-11 Thread GovindanK
Yes .. that is good. GovindanK On Wed, 10 Dec 2003 13:44:34 -0800, "Freeman Robert - IL" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > Excellent slide show Tanel! > > Robert > > -Original Message- > To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L > Sent: 12/10/2003 3:34 PM > dc_histogram_defs) > > > Pete, I'd

Re: 10g stuff on otn

2003-12-11 Thread Joe Testa
kinda like how 9ir1 was really 8.2 :) joe Mercadante, Thomas F wrote: "so are they really new versions or just minor upgrades to the 9i version?" let's see. Otn is a marketing tool. From a marketing point of view, what's better - changing the name to make it look like it's brand-spanking

Re: 10g stuff on otn

2003-12-11 Thread Mladen Gogala
Yup. The new version will not get out until the books are written and their buddies are ready to start selling "grid consulting skills". On 12/11/2003 07:44:33 AM, "Mercadante, Thomas F" wrote: > "so are they really new versions or just minor upgrades to the 9i version?" > > let's see. Otn is

RE: 10g stuff on otn

2003-12-11 Thread Jamadagni, Rajendra
Duh !!!   It is oracle ...   create or replace public synonym "Application Server 10G" for "Application Server 9.0.4" /   Raj Rajendra dot Jamadagni at nospamespn dot com All Views expressed in this email are s

RE: 10g stuff on otn

2003-12-11 Thread Mercadante, Thomas F
"so are they really new versions or just minor upgrades to the 9i version?"   let's see.  Otn is a marketing tool.  From a marketing point of view, what's better - changing the name to make it look like it's brand-spanking new, or making what is obvious obvious - that they are simply recycl

Re: 10g new features (was: dc_used_extents ,dc_free_extents and d

2003-12-11 Thread Yechiel Adar
I concur. Yechiel Adar Mehish - Original Message - To: "Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, December 10, 2003 11:44 PM > Excellent slide show Tanel! > > Robert > > -Original Message- > To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L > Sent: 12/1

Re: 10g new features (was: dc_used_extents ,dc_free_extents and d

2003-12-10 Thread Tanel Poder
Yep, sqlplus.exe will still be there. Otherwise one wouln't be able to run any automated sql scripts, because isqlplus can't do it as far as I understand. Tanel. - Original Message - To: "Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, December 11, 2003 12:04 AM

RE: 10g new features (was: dc_used_extents ,dc_free_extents and d

2003-12-10 Thread Pete Sharman
oder" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent by: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 12/10/2003 01:34 PM Please respond to ORACLE-L To:Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> cc: Subject:Re: 10g new features (was: dc_used_extents ,dc_f

RE: 10g new features (was: dc_used_extents ,dc_free_extents and d

2003-12-10 Thread Freeman Robert - IL
er than at database create time. Jared "Tanel Poder" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent by: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 12/10/2003 01:34 PM Please respond to ORACLE-L To:Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> cc:

Re: 10g new features (was: dc_used_extents ,dc_free_extents and dc_histogram_defs)

2003-12-10 Thread Jared . Still
r than at database create time. Jared "Tanel Poder" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent by: [EMAIL PROTECTED]  12/10/2003 01:34 PM  Please respond to ORACLE-L                 To:        Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>         cc:                 Subjec

Re: 10g new features (was: dc_used_extents ,dc_free_extents and dc_histogram_defs)

2003-12-10 Thread Mladen Gogala
On 12/10/2003 04:34:25 PM, Tanel Poder wrote: > > Pete, I'd like to clarify my position first: I don't have any burning > problem > > that would compel me to start testing 10g. I want only to learn the new > > features. > > Btw, if you want to learn some of the 10g database engine new features (n

RE: 10g new features (was: dc_used_extents ,dc_free_extents and d

2003-12-10 Thread Goulet, Dick
Tanel, Whthough they may not have the sqlplusw.exe for windoes is the sqlplus.exe still there? Dick Goulet Senior Oracle DBA Oracle Certified 8i DBA -Original Message- Sent: Wednesday, December 10, 2003 4:45 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L d Excellent slide show Ta

RE: 10g new features (was: dc_used_extents ,dc_free_extents and d

2003-12-10 Thread Freeman Robert - IL
Excellent slide show Tanel! Robert -Original Message- To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Sent: 12/10/2003 3:34 PM dc_histogram_defs) > Pete, I'd like to clarify my position first: I don't have any burning problem > that would compel me to start testing 10g. I want only to learn the

Re: 10g new features (was: dc_used_extents ,dc_free_extents and dc_histogram_defs)

2003-12-10 Thread Tanel Poder
> Pete, I'd like to clarify my position first: I don't have any burning problem > that would compel me to start testing 10g. I want only to learn the new > features. Btw, if you want to learn some of the 10g database engine new features (not the marketing buzzwords), then check out one of my prese

Re: 10g new features

2003-11-05 Thread zhu chao
Hi, Gopa: I ever saw you can rename tablespace via transportable tablespace via edit the dmp file and reimport metadata into database. But it is not one command line. How do you rename tablespace in 9i? I tested rename tablespace in 10i beta1 and found rename tablespace does update sys.t

Re: 10g new features

2003-11-04 Thread Jared . Still
... and now printed and nicely bound.  :) "Tanel Poder" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent by: [EMAIL PROTECTED]  11/04/2003 02:59 PM  Please respond to ORACLE-L                 To:        Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>         cc:                 S

Re: 10g new features

2003-11-04 Thread Tanel Poder
esday, November 04, 2003 10:49 PM Subject: Re: 10g new features The link is dead.  :( But thanks to the googlecache effect, you can still see the doc: http://216.239.57.104/search?q=cache:UVsNMDV-OBIJ:www.ploug.org.pl/konf_03/Oracle10g_New_Features.pdf+Oracle10g_New_Features.pdf&hl=

Re: 10g new features

2003-11-04 Thread Jared . Still
TED]> Sent by: [EMAIL PROTECTED]  11/04/2003 12:04 PM  Please respond to ORACLE-L                 To:        Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>         cc:                 Subject:        Re: 10g new features Btw, bold guys from Polish Oracle User Group have put

Re: 10g new features

2003-11-04 Thread Tanel Poder
t: Tuesday, November 04, 2003 8:04 PM Subject: RE: 10g new features Oh My ...   Raj Rajendra dot Jamadagni at nospamespn dot com All Views expressed in this email are strictly personal. QOTD: An

Re: 10g new features

2003-11-04 Thread Tanel Poder
essage - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2003 7:24 PM Subject: Re: 10g new features OK KG, the cat is out of the bag. Now you have to tell all of us.  Especially Raj.  :) Jared "

RE: 10g new features

2003-11-04 Thread Jamadagni, Rajendra
-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2003 12:25 PMTo: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-LSubject: Re: 10g new featuresOK KG, the cat is out of the bag. Now you have to tell all of us.  Especially Raj.  :) Jared

Re: 10g new features

2003-11-04 Thread Jared . Still
ORACLE-L <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>         cc:                 Subject:        Re: 10g new features Yong: I was not joking. Actually there is a command to rename tablespaces in 9i and that is undocumented. IIRC it is with some FROM and TO options or something similar to that. Let me check that com

Re: 10g new features

2003-11-04 Thread Pete Finnigan
>I was not joking. Actually there is a command to rename tablespaces in 9i >and that is undocumented. IIRC it is with some FROM and TO options or >something similar to that. > >Let me check that come back to you offline.. ^^ > Gopal, please let us al

Re: 10g new features

2003-11-04 Thread K Gopalakrishnan
Yong: I was not joking. Actually there is a command to rename tablespaces in 9i and that is undocumented. IIRC it is with some FROM and TO options or something similar to that. Let me check that come back to you offline.. KG - Original Message - To: "Multiple recipients of list ORACLE

Re: 10g new features

2003-11-03 Thread Jared Still
Yes, I think you must be right. It's late, and I've been playing with indexes for a couple hours. Jared On Mon, 2003-11-03 at 20:44, Yong Huang wrote: > How can *you* not get it? Gopal says in Oracle 9.2, 'alter tablespace rename' > is possible. Of course. The full syntax is alter tablespace myt

Re: 10g new features

2003-11-03 Thread Yong Huang
How can *you* not get it? Gopal says in Oracle 9.2, 'alter tablespace rename' is possible. Of course. The full syntax is alter tablespace mytablespace rename datafile '/path/file.dbf' to '/path/newfile.dbf'. You see the three words 'alter', 'tablespace' and 'rename' in there? You'll get it in the

Re: 10g new features

2003-11-03 Thread Jared Still
Not sure I get it either. :) The command listed on the 10g site that I referred to is this: alter tablespace ts_user rename to ts_user_01; Renaming a tablespace is apparently possible with 10g. Must be a joke here somewhere I'm missing. Jared On Mon, 2003-11-03 at 20:09, Yong Huang wrote:

Re: 10g new features

2003-11-03 Thread Yong Huang
Gopal was joking about the fact that Jared only said 'alter tablespace rename' instead of ALTER TABLESPACE RENAME DATAFILE. In fact, 9.2 SQL Reference has this Moving and Renaming Tablespaces: Example This example moves and renames a datafile associated with the tbs_01 tablespace from 'diskb:tbs_

Re: 10g new features

2003-11-03 Thread Mladen Gogala
Actually, I don't understand what you mean. Here is 9.2: SQL> create tablespace test datafile '/data/oradata/data/test01.dbf' 2 size 10M extent management local autoallocate 3 segment space management auto; Tablespace created. SQL> alter tablespace test rename to test01; alter tablespace test

Re: 10g new features

2003-11-03 Thread K Gopalakrishnan
Jared:   'alter tablespace rename' is not the REAL 10g feature. It is available from 9.2 onwards... :) Hope you know what I mean,,   KG   - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2003 12:54 AM

Re: 10g new features

2003-11-03 Thread Yong Huang
That's a nice article. The author could have enhanced it by adding or changing some wording. The buffer cache can be flushed with alter system flush buffer_cache. -> ... instead of using the undocumented alter session set events = 'immediate trace name flush_cache' in 9i SQL: Regular Expressions

RE: 10g new featuers seminars from oracle

2003-10-14 Thread Boivin, Patrice J
The people who plan architecture and make purchasing decisions should go to the Oracle Technology Days etc. As a DBA I like those sessions too, but when I go I agree with Oracle then realize I can't tell my organization what to do. Recommending products is not enough, one has to plan, purchase,

RE: 10g new featuers seminars from oracle

2003-10-13 Thread Melanie Caffrey
There was one here, in New York, last Thursday. If whatever you've been invited to has a title that runs along the lines of "The Launch of 10g", then it's safe to say that it's probably pure marketing. Melanie -Original Message- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, October 13, 2003 11:24 AM T

RE: 10G

2003-09-29 Thread Pete Sharman
Yes, I know for sure. :) Pete "Controlling developers is like herding cats." Kevin Loney, Oracle DBA Handbook "Oh no, it's not. It's much harder than that!" Bruce Pihlamae, long-term Oracle DBA -Original Message- Jerome Roa Sent: Tuesday, September 30, 2003 5:05 AM To: Multiple recip

RE: 10g: SQL Plus

2003-09-26 Thread Mladen Gogala
Thanks, Bambi! -- Mladen Gogala Oracle DBA > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On > Behalf Of Bellow, Bambi > Sent: Friday, September 26, 2003 5:45 PM > To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L > Subject: RE: 10g: SQL P

RE: 10g: SQL Plus

2003-09-26 Thread Bellow, Bambi
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On > Behalf Of Bellow, Bambi > Sent: Friday, September 26, 2003 4:55 PM > To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L > Subject: RE: 10g: SQL Plus > > > Why upgrade to 5.1? I think I have my 5.0.20 disks *and > docset* somewhere... (I ha

RE: 10g: SQL Plus

2003-09-26 Thread Mladen Gogala
> -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On > Behalf Of Bellow, Bambi > Sent: Friday, September 26, 2003 4:55 PM > To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L > Subject: RE: 10g: SQL Plus > > > Why upgrade to 5.1? I think I have my 5.0.20 disk

RE: 10g: SQL Plus

2003-09-26 Thread Bellow, Bambi
gt;>-Original Message- >>From: Mogens Nørgaard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >>Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2003 7:45 PM >>To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L >>Subject: Re: 10g: SQL Plus >> >> >>Well, we have a good, working 5.25 floppy driv

Re: 10g: SQL Plus

2003-09-26 Thread Mogens Nørgaard
EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2003 7:45 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Subject: Re: 10g: SQL Plus Well, we have a good, working 5.25 floppy drive installed on our Oracle Museum PC (486, 25 MHz) now, and we're planning on installing WordPerfect 4.2, Lotus 1-2-3

RE: 10g: SQL Plus

2003-09-25 Thread Robson, Peter
Ah-a - NOW I see why you want my old version 5 manuals!! peter edinburgh > -Original Message- > From: Mogens Nørgaard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2003 7:45 PM > To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L > Subject: Re: 10g: SQL Plus > &g

Re: 10g: SQL Plus

2003-09-24 Thread bulbultyagi
In nt cmd shell , you could make copy pasting easy by going into properties and selecting 'quick edit mode' . In fact you could make this behaviour the default by choosing 'save properties for future windows with same title'. Then you need not select mark and copy , etc . Just use the right and l

Re: 10g: SQL Plus

2003-09-24 Thread Mogens Nørgaard
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bob Metelsky Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2003 11:45 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Subject: RE: 10g: SQL Plus Losing the pseudo-GUI version would be a a drag, because it's so

RE: 10g: SQL Plus

2003-09-24 Thread Mladen Gogala
1:45 AM > To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L > Subject: RE: 10g: SQL Plus > > > > > Losing the pseudo-GUI version would be a a drag, because > it's so easy > > to copy and paste text in it (not so easy in a Windows command > prompt). > > Try right click

RE: 10g: SQL Plus

2003-09-24 Thread Norris, Gregory T [ITS]
> Ive actually began to like sqlplus (opposed to > sqlplusw). One good feature is you have your > command history using the up arrow like > regular shell And it can be minimized or moved out of the way while a query is active. -- This post may contain anti-SCO content sponsored secretly by IBM. S

RE: 10g: SQL Plus

2003-09-24 Thread Bob Metelsky
> Losing the pseudo-GUI version would be a a drag, because it's so easy > to copy and paste text in it (not so easy in a Windows command prompt). Try right click - paste or click the upper left icon and choose paste To copy - choose mark then enter -its then in the "clipboard" Ive actually bega

RE: 10g: SQL Plus

2003-09-22 Thread Melanie Caffrey
Nope. Sqlplusw is the little gui usually available off of your start -> programs window menu items. isqlplus is Web-based and invoked through a browser. For example, Invoking the following type of url will bring it up in your browser: http://your_server_name:your_port_number/isqlplus Note tha

Re: 10g: SQL Plus

2003-09-22 Thread KENNETH JANUSZ
Is sqlplusw the same as iSQL/Plus? Thanks, Ken - Original Message - To: "Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, September 22, 2003 6:09 PM > They were supposed to get rid of sqlplusw > > - Original Message - > To: "Multiple recipients of list OR

Re: 10g: SQL Plus

2003-09-22 Thread Richard Stroupe
No worries Johnathan you are correct its only the Windows based GUI that is being desupported in favor of iSQL*PLUS. Per a metalink note (dont know the exact number) but the command line is not going anywhere!! --- Jonathan Gennick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Monday, September 22, 2003, 12:19:

Re: 10g: SQL Plus

2003-09-22 Thread bulbultyagi
They were supposed to get rid of sqlplusw - Original Message - To: "Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, September 22, 2003 23:09 > Hej Jay > > Yes it stil there :-) > > > Jay Wade wrote: > > > Hello: > > > > Was watching Larry Ellison's key note

Re: 10g: SQL Plus

2003-09-22 Thread Paul Baumgartel
How could Oracle kill SQL*Plus? What would replace it, SQL*Plus Worksheet? Ugh. Losing the pseudo-GUI version would be a a drag, because it's so easy to copy and paste text in it (not so easy in a Windows command prompt). --- Jonathan Gennick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Monday, September 22,

Re: 10g: SQL Plus

2003-09-22 Thread Jonathan Gennick
Monday, September 22, 2003, 12:19:41 PM, you wrote: JW> Was watching Larry Ellison's key note and he mentioned that they still have JW> SQL Plus in 10g. JW> I heard rumor that it was removed. Since it seems as though some from this JW> list have seen it does it still have SQL Plus or has it been

RE: 10g: SQL Plus

2003-09-22 Thread Cary Millsap
It's in the beta 1 software. Cary Millsap Hotsos Enterprises, Ltd. http://www.hotsos.com Upcoming events: - Hotsos Clinic 101 in Sydney - Hotsos Symposium 2004, March 7-10 Dallas - Visit www.hotsos.com for schedule details... -Original Message- Ron Rogers Sent: Monday, September 22, 20

Re: 10g: SQL Plus

2003-09-22 Thread Peter Gram
Hej Jay Yes it stil there :-) Jay Wade wrote: Hello: Was watching Larry Ellison's key note and he mentioned that they still have SQL Plus in 10g. I heard rumor that it was removed. Since it seems as though some from this list have seen it does it still have SQL Plus or has it been removed?

RE: 10g: SQL Plus

2003-09-22 Thread Jesse, Rich
Sussex, WI USA > -Original Message- > From: Mladen Gogala [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Monday, September 22, 2003 11:50 AM > To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L > Subject: RE: 10g: SQL Plus > > > Actually, they will have SQL*PlusPlus, an object oriented extension

Re: 10g: SQL Plus

2003-09-22 Thread Ron Rogers
According to the Oracle rep at a 10G demo, SQLPLUS and PL/SQL still exist. Ron >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 09/22/03 12:19PM >>> Hello: Was watching Larry Ellison's key note and he mentioned that they still have SQL Plus in 10g. I heard rumor that it was removed. Since it seems as though some from thi

RE: 10g: SQL Plus

2003-09-22 Thread Mladen Gogala
Actually, they will have SQL*PlusPlus, an object oriented extension of SQL*Plus. Then there will be Enterprise Plus Stringbeans, Pluslets, active plus pages and so forth. Ultimately, they'll end up with fclstwkgr (Freaking Command Line SQL Tool Which Keeps Getting Renamed). -- Mladen Gogala Oracl

Re: 10g: SQL Plus

2003-09-22 Thread brian . mcgraw
Affirmative. I used SQL*Plus during one of the Hands-On 10G Database sessions at OracleWorld. Brian - Original Message - Date: Monday, September 22, 2003 11:19 am > Hello: > > Was watching Larry Ellison's key note and he mentioned that they > still have > SQL Plus in 10g. > I heard

Re: 10g

2003-09-09 Thread Mogens Nørgaard
...no more DBA? Uh-oh. "I'm sorry Dave. I can't close the pod bay instance." Rich Rich Jesse System/Database Administrator [EMAIL PROTECTED] Quad/Tech Inc, Sussex, WI USA -Original Message- From: Mogens Nørgaard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: T

Re: 10g

2003-09-09 Thread Tanel Poder
I have done it in Word using ctrl-B for few times ;)   Tanel. - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2003 2:04 AM Subject: Re: 10g > It will even - in EM - highlight if

Re: 10g

2003-09-09 Thread Jared . Still
ACLE-L                 To:        Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>         cc:                 Subject:        Re: 10g It's also called "Graham in a Box" internally in Development because Graham Wood put some effort into it. It's Statspack on steroids plu

Re: 10g

2003-09-09 Thread Ryan
h-oh. > > > >"I'm sorry Dave. I can't close the pod bay instance." > > > > > >Rich > > > >Rich Jesse System/Database Administrator > >[EMAIL PROTECTED] Quad/Tech Inc, Sussex, WI USA > &g

Re: 10g

2003-09-09 Thread Mogens Nørgaard
System/Database Administrator [EMAIL PROTECTED] Quad/Tech Inc, Sussex, WI USA -Original Message- From: Mogens Nørgaard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, September 09, 2003 2:59 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Subject: Re: 10g Correct. You can f

Re: 10g

2003-09-09 Thread Mogens Nørgaard
It's also called "Graham in a Box" internally in Development because Graham Wood put some effort into it. It's Statspack on steroids plus more, but it will of course still be as useless as Statspack wrt system-wide measurement data. It does contain the SQL stuff if you ask it to, and that's use

Re: 10g

2003-09-09 Thread Tanel Poder
> "Oracle's Kumar likens ADDM to 'a genie in your database-if you have a > performance problem, you just ask the database what the problem is and it > automatically analyzes the complete database system and comes up with > recommendations.'" If this works like Oracle Expert, then it's recommendati

Re: RE: 10g

2003-09-09 Thread rgaffuri
03/09/09 Tue AM 11:24:27 EDT > To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: RE: 10g > > No, you get 3 wishes from the genie, after that you have to buy a licence > for geniEE. > > Come to think of it, maybe the g in Oracle 10g stands for genie

RE: 10g

2003-09-09 Thread Wolfgang Breitling
No, you get 3 wishes from the genie, after that you have to buy a licence for geniEE. Come to think of it, maybe the g in Oracle 10g stands for genie rather than grid? At 06:59 AM 9/9/2003 -0800, you wrote: You're up to 3 wishes and then it will crash ... I wonder if you have to rub the server

RE: 10g

2003-09-09 Thread Boivin, Patrice J
System/Database Administrator [EMAIL PROTECTED] Quad/Tech Inc, Sussex, WI USA > -Original Message- > From: Mogens Nørgaard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Tuesday, September 09, 2003 2:59 AM > To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L > Subje

RE: 10g

2003-09-09 Thread Stephane Paquette
7;t close the pod bay instance." Rich Rich Jesse System/Database Administrator [EMAIL PROTECTED] Quad/Tech Inc, Sussex, WI USA > -Original Message- > From: Mogens Nørgaard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Tuesday, September 09, 2003 2:59 AM > To: M

RE: 10g

2003-09-09 Thread Jesse, Rich
---Original Message- > From: Mogens Nørgaard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Tuesday, September 09, 2003 2:59 AM > To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L > Subject: Re: 10g > > > Correct. You can follow his announcement on www.Oracle.com at 2PM PDT. > -- Please see

Re: 10g

2003-09-09 Thread Mogens Nørgaard
Correct. You can follow his announcement on www.Oracle.com at 2PM PDT. Babette Turner-Underwood wrote: Yes, but then all the listers who have been DYING to fill us in, will be allowed to finally spill their guts, no? - Babette -Original Message- Mogens Norgaard Sent: Monday, September 08

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2003-09-08 Thread Babette Turner-Underwood
Yes, but then all the listers who have been DYING to fill us in, will be allowed to finally spill their guts, no? - Babette -Original Message- Mogens Norgaard Sent: Monday, September 08, 2003 12:35 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Yes, Larry will announce it tomorrow. The sof

Re: 10g

2003-09-08 Thread Mogens Nørgaard
Yes, Larry will announce it tomorrow. The software will not be available to customers for a while, though. Boivin, Patrice J wrote: The release date and the shipping dates may be different, not sure. They also may not have it ready for all platforms at the same time, see OCS Release 2, there st

RE: 10g

2003-09-08 Thread Boivin, Patrice J
The release date and the shipping dates may be different, not sure. They also may not have it ready for all platforms at the same time, see OCS Release 2, there still is no version for Windows. Patrice. -Original Message- Sent: Saturday, September 06, 2003 3:44 PM To: Multiple recipients

Re: 10g

2003-09-06 Thread Stephane Faroult
Jay wrote: > > I keep reading all the marketing material on 10g, is Tuesday the release > date? (Larry Ellison Enabling the Grid -- The Power of 10 > The Launch of Oracle's Next Version Database keynote) > > Thanks in advance, > Jay Jay, You are new to Oracle I guess? Don't mistake ANNOUNCEM

RE: 10g and IBM grid

2003-07-23 Thread Boivin, Patrice J
I get DB2 magazine at work, months ago they had an issue about grid computing and how it was going to be the next big thing in DB2... Maybe I still have it at home somewhere, I'll look for it tonight. Patrice. -Original Message- Sent: Wednesday, July 23, 2003 4:29 PM To: Multiple recipie

RE: 10G

2003-07-21 Thread MacGregor, Ian A.
M Please respond to ORACLE-L To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> cc: Subject:Re: 10G Jared, Thanks for the articles. It looks like to grid concept would require the idle computers in the office to be connected to a fiber n

Re: 10G

2003-07-21 Thread Jared . Still
ecipients of list ORACLE-L <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> cc: Subject:Re: 10G Jared, Thanks for the articles. It looks like to grid concept would require the idle computers in the office to be connected to a fiber net and available to pick up part of the load when demand incre

RE: 10G

2003-07-21 Thread Mercadante, Thomas F
Jared, Did you read the OTN document? I don't see any new technology here. In fact, it looks like a nightmare. They cited using Read-Only Tablespaces, Transportable Tablespace, database links and Oracle Streams for sharing data across the "blades" of the multi-server nodes. This is supposed to

Re: 10G

2003-07-21 Thread Ron Rogers
Jared, Thanks for the articles. It looks like to grid concept would require the idle computers in the office to be connected to a fiber net and available to pick up part of the load when demand increased. Or did I miss-understand the article and each computer has it's own area of expertice and an

Re: 10G

2003-07-21 Thread Jared . Still
On more serious note: Here's are links to a couple Oracle grid computing documents. The first is a newsletter I receive from our local Oracle office. The second is an OTN document. http://www.cybcon.com/~jkstill/Jul2003.pdf http://otn.oracle.com/products/oracle9i/grid_computing/Oracle9iGridCo

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