Title: OT RE: 24 x 7 on NT?
Thanks
for the link, I love that story:))
KK
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Now I'm confused John - Is it a 2nd or 3rd rate O/S? :)
The name is Jon. While Douglas Adams may have thought it to be 2nd rate, I
believe it to be 3rd rate. Too much to handle?
||No, that's a pretty simple statement to get my head around I think! You
like to promote peoples views, whilst not
Rachel,
In the session detail screen, it will list all of the SQL currently in the
SQLAREA for that session, so if you don't catch the blocked session straight
away (away from your desk or out to lunch), you can in fact miss the SQL as
it may have been aged out of the SQLAREA.
The way I would
True story: I took a course in Strategic Management at grad school,
one section of which was Disaster Planning and Recovery. A few months
later, our building (I'm in the Informatics dept.) burns down:
http://www.city.ac.uk/news/fire/
The only professor who needed his coursework resubmitted
Just my 2p worth but I have been evaluating a few of the tools that Marks
company provides and both me my colleagues (developers and DBAs) found them
to be top notch (erm...excellent if this doesn't translate well) and
basically a fraction of the cost that Quest etc. charge. I have spent a lot
of
You got me on this one, but my guess would be Grandpa Simpson said that
one:)
KK
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On June 27, 2001 03:05 pm, Mustafa wrote:
True Fact: Unix was first invented in 1913 by my great
cool, now if I could get them to open their wallets. boy are there toys
I want to buy for here!
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Thanks Lee!
It's always great to hear when people enjoy using your products! And Lee is
right - the products don't look as nice as some of Quest's tools do
(Spotlight for instance), but then they are not ugly either, and in most
cases, all provide the same if not more functionality for less, as
Lee,
so why didn't they quote you in the article in the latest Oracle magazine?
:)
Rachel
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Rachel Carmichael wrote:
cool, now if I could get them to open their wallets. boy are there toys
I want to buy for here!
Since I and others respect your opinion(s),
what tools would you buy why them instead of others?
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*shrug* you have to reboot a Sun if you want to change the number of
file descriptors. NT assigns them dynamically. Does that mean that Unix
now isn't a suitable OS either?
A few clues please, people. This discussion has become over-emotive.
g
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:)
Rachel
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snip
I would imagine once the American economy eventually sorts itself out
This is an interesting thread which seems to reappear at regular intervals.
I find it hard to believe that NT could be made 99.999% available at the
same cost and administration duties as any UNIX based server. Now, if I
cluster enough machines together I can probably make any Operating
yours dear
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erm who Marks company or mine ???
I haven't received one of those bloody
Guy,
Sidestepping the fact that you targeted your excellent
reply to a person who has been disinvited from the list,
I have to say it's one of the best posts I have read in
a while ( on this my daddy is going to beat up your daddy
OS trend ).
I think most of us got into and stayed in this
My $0.02:
Unisys will build you a 99.999% available system, on NT. Boeing and
NASDAQ, two very serious organizations, use NT for their line of
business. I could go on and on, but I will summarize:
Whatever your Unix box can do, my old VMS box can do better. Uptime,
performance tuning,
The Coast guard uses Unisys, too...but i don't
know where NT fits in to their front line systems.
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This is an interesting thread which seems to reappear at regular intervals.
I find it
I have had problems with my subscription to O mag. I will subscribe, recieve a
copy then not recieve anything for 5 or 6 months - till I remember to
re-subscribe. Then I'll get a copy and then nothing till I re-subscribe again.
It has been that way for about 3 years.
Terry
Robertson Lee -
On one of their newer ships they were using NT, and it froze up a couple of
times.
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The Coast guard uses Unisys, too...but i don't
know where NT fits in to their front line systems.
wonderful.
Someone should let George Clooney know.
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On one of their newer ships they were using NT, and it froze up a couple of
times.
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The software or the ship?
--Walt Weaver
Bozeman, Montana, USA
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On one of their newer ships they were using NT, and it froze up a couple of
times.
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Hahah, the software, the ship had to be towed back to port:) However, not
sure if it was the coast guard or the navy, but I am going with the coast
guard.
KK
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The software or the
Interesting how the concept of history is different for science vs.
technology.
Henry
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Guy,
Sidestepping the fact that you targeted your excellent
reply to a person who has been
Sounds a little more familiar, I am pretty sure that it was a destroyer. I
think I may have to do some investigating:)
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I think it was the Navy.
The US Coast Guard has something called
Ross,
On number one, those Unisys workstations were standardized over all of the
services since GSA singed a VERY large contract for them. We had them all over
the place in the USAF as well.
On the second point, your dead right. I do not remember the ship involved,
but it turned out
Dick.
|| Thanks for chiming in!
On number one, those Unisys workstations were standardized over all of
the
services since GSA singed a VERY large contract for them. We had them all
over
the place in the USAF as well.
|| Well..ok...but I never saw any in the Navy. But I was in what
OH MAN, the F-22 with NT, oh jeez...Hey I love NT, but the amount of times I
have had to reboot a machine, I couldn't imagine that in an F-22.
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Dick.
|| Thanks for chiming in!
On
yea, they could call it the gpF-22 then.:)
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OH MAN, the F-22 with NT, oh jeez...Hey I love NT, but the amount of times I
have had to reboot a machine, I couldn't imagine that in an
Ohhh...that was good, wish I would have thought of that:)
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yea, they could call it the gpF-22 then.:)
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Mohan, Ross wrote:
yea, they could call it the gpF-22 then.:)
give the phrase blue screen of death a whole new meaning.;-)
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Ohhh...that was good, wish I would have thought of that:)
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Title: OT RE: 24 x 7 on NT?
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Hahah, the software, the ship had to be towed back to port:)
However, not
sure if it was the coast guard or the navy, but I am going
with the coast
guard.
Navy ship USS
It's funny what this thread has turned into!!!
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that's my job, soldier: Humor Mach One. Now, at ease, and smoke 'em if you
got 'em.
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ahhahahahaha
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Mohan, Ross wrote:
yea, they could call it the gpF-22 then.:)
give the phrase blue screen of death a whole new meaning.;-)
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On June 28, 2001 11:31 am, Kevin Kostyszyn wrote:
You got me on this one, but my guess would be Grandpa Simpson said
that one:)
KK
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Actually, I think that was the Navy. I remember discussions on this.
It happened more then once.
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Hahah, the software, the ship had to be towed back to port:) However, not
sure if it
: Tuesday, June 26, 2001 3:56 PM
To: Mohan, Ross
Cc: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
Subject: RE: OT RE: 24 x 7 on NT?
why doesnt anyone just compare the platforms that the respective
nt/unix
versions run on? I dont really care for intel from square one, much
less
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Well, I guess so if that was the only occurrence. I'll never know and I doubt
that they will fess-up.
At any rate, If one wants to use NT or any other OS for that matter in a 24x7
guaranteed manner then one should look into making as much as possible
redundant.
I dont like to sit on my ass as others pass 3rd rate
information about a 3rd rate os on to others...
The idea that Bill Gates has appeared like a knight in shining armor to
lead all customers out of a mire of technological chaos neatly ignores the
fact that it was he who, by peddling second-
You know it make me laugh how a whole lot of people out there moan
about
point and click technology - YET the business that I am in - third
party GUI
tools for databases - is BOOMING! So what is it? DBA's don't like a
point
click O/S - but one to help them with their job, is OK...
Just my 50p
Oh I agree with what you are saying there - and that is EXACTLY why we don't
deal with any tools that actually touch user data (unless you count
reorganizing tables/tablespaces etc..). And I'm not sure which tool you are
actually talking about, there are good and bad in the market place..
I
On June 27, 2001 07:55 am, Mark Leith wrote:
slapping developers - what's the problem with them?
No problem slapping developers rather enjoy it actually
The issue I have with point click is the increasing number of
database admins who can only use these tools. Put them in front of a
Hi
Try checking out all of your drivers.
A mate of mine recently purchased a new motherboard and Athlon 900, firstly
it seemed to run like a dog, after a bit of looking around he found out
that it was probably the VIA chipset, so on went the new drivers, seemed to
run better but still not
I think I came across the route of the problem now.
I have in fact installed all updated drivers from VIA, flashed the BIOS,
switched IRQ's for my network card (it was in the adjacent PCI slot to the
AGP slot) so there are no IRQ conflicts.
I went on to the ELSA web support page, and discovered
starting ringing -- users calling to say Oracle is down. We were able to
tell them to wait a minute or two and try again, it was fixed.
Rachel
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Oh I agree
As a newbie to the Oracle fold I found it oh so easy to dive into
stuff with the DBA Studio, I suppose the thing that stops me is some 7 or
more years hacking around Linux and Unix systems. Graphical tools are great
for some things but you just cant beat the capabilities of a good
Interesting rambling,
I had never seen a fault tree before but had in some way used one at times
without understanding how to really use what i was doing, I will have to
study these links some more
Peter
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Oh I agree
As a newbie to the Oracle fold I found it oh so easy to dive into
stuff with the DBA Studio, I suppose the thing that stops me
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-Oooh...wow! Quick, maybe we should run out and convince 90% of the
-business world that their entire infrastructure is a complete and udder pipe
-dream and that the idea of trying to simplify our lives with the
Hi,
The GUI is nice and very productive , but how an OS could pretend to be
24x7 when if you change configuration you must restart the computer.
Regards,
Antonio Belloni
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to wait a minute or two and try again, it was fixed.
Rachel
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Oh I agree with what you are saying
, he/she might think hmmm, that was easy.
;)
Richard Ji
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Oh I agree with what you are saying
Come on get real.. Who has had a Unix box for 88 years? Unless of course the box in a
satellite circling the earth and the crossing of the dateline constitutes a day
ROR mª¿ªm
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Here's my Unix box:
# uptime
12:09 pm up 32,245 days, 1:01, 14543 users,
RE: 24 x 7 on NT?
Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2001 06:16:16 -0800
I think GUI tools are a great boon. If nothing else, it gives damagement
a
pretty screen to look at while I am working on something else :)
But isn't it better to let the damagement see me furiously typing at the
keyboard
*VERY* Interesting! Thanks, Paul.
(where is Eric?)
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Well, I guess so if that was the only occurrence. I'll never know and I
doubt
that they will
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EXACTLY!! I never say that a tool should be used instead of command line -
I'm a great believer of having to know both - as there are pros
Been running since 1913. Cool!
In 1919 E. 0. Carissan (1880-1925) built a factoring machine
http://www.math.uwaterloo.ca/~shallit/Papers/carissan.html
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Come on get real.. Who has had a
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OT RE: 24 x 7 on NT?
Mike, i'm with you there.
alter database datafile '/fill/in/name/here' resize
200m;
or right click in OEM and change the size. As long as
you can do the previous then might as well use the latter :)
joe
And I thought I was in a bad mood today. All nighter last night.
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Now I'm confused John - Is it a 2nd or 3rd rate O/S? :)
The name is Jon. While Douglas Adams may have thought it to be
True Fact: Unix was first invented in 1913 by my great great uncle (twice
removed) Ralph Unix. Ralph worked with him as THE first DBA.
I bet most of you didn't know that the Unix server Ralph is talking about is
powered by steam engine! ;-)
Defry
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Now I'm confused John - Is it a 2nd or 3rd rate O/S? :)
The name is Jon. While Douglas Adams may have thought it to be 2nd rate, I
believe it to be 3rd rate. Too much to handle?
you can't have written that on a Windoze box - it would have corrected
it for you ! :)
Are you a genius or
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Now I'm confused John - Is it a 2nd or 3rd rate O/S? :)
The name is Jon. While Douglas Adams may have thought it to be 2nd rate, I
believe it to be 3rd rate. Too
John,oops JON,
Sounds like someone
1) Woke up on the wrong side of their UNIX box and
2) Has no tolerance for anything not similar to their own way of thinking.
I think most of us will agree that UNIX is heads a shoulders a better
platform for MOST systems that run apps like Oracle,
Will everyone please drop the 24 x 7 from the subject?! I asked the
question a few days ago and the discussion now has nothing to do with the
question. Thanks to those who actually had input to the original question.
Ron
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On Wed, 27 Jun 2001,Marty Bonner scribbled on the wall in glitter crayon:
-I just got a shiver down my spine as I realized... you got kicked off of
-Slashdot, didn't you? Not playing nice with the rest of the kids?
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-Anyhoo, your rhetoric is more appropriate for that forum than this one.
On Wed, 27 Jun 2001,Rachel Carmichael scribbled on the wall in glitter crayon:
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-As for using a text based mua on a sun machine, which doesnt
-attempt to correct mistakes, thus not creating its own, well, you are right
-about that, but then it doesn't seem as if you need any help in introducing
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Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2001 08:41:20 -0800
Now I'm confused John - Is it a 2nd or 3rd rate O/S? :)
The name is Jon. While Douglas Adams may have thought it to be 2nd rate, I
believe it to be 3rd rate. Too much to handle?
you can't have written that on a Windoze box
Bad day man? Lighten up a little bit. Would be nice first to answer some
Oracle questions posted on this list and then publish your opinion about
idiots around there.
Alex Hillman
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Now
S !!
Alex is awake !!! ;-)
- Kirti
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Bad day man? Lighten up a little bit
D$,NTFS,3099,2758,341
E$,NTFS,4095,3849,246
F$,NTFS,8190,7684,506
This does require that you have the utility blat.exe installed and in your
path.
hth,
Paul
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Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2001 09:50:28 -0800
From
Right on Rachel!! You go get'em girl.
To add to the mix..
Some of the participants on this list are extremely knowledgeable and published. They
are willing and able to offer assistance when the opportunity arises. All people are
given the chance to voice their opinion and should do so with
Jon,
slowly now - no - slower than that, take you hands away from the keyboard.
carefully now, shutdown your machine.
slowly back away from your desk.
now run like hell for your car.
go home, get a glass of lemonade, and find the nearest shady place.
breath deeply.
now, isn't that
On June 27, 2001 10:45 am, Thater, William wrote:
-business world that their entire infrastructure is a
complete and udder pipe dream
^^^
What do gui tools have to do with cows?
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On June 27, 2001 03:05 pm, Mustafa wrote:
True Fact: Unix was first invented in 1913 by my great great uncle
(twice removed) Ralph Unix. Ralph worked with him as THE first
DBA.
I bet most of you didn't know that the Unix server Ralph is talking
about is powered by steam engine! ;-)
Hi Smith,
As everyone in the list has rightly pointed out that NT is stable and may also lead to
problems. I myself installed a 50gigs DB in aIBM Netfinity server with RAID 1+0
combination in MSCS. Even tough the client lost a datafile and was unable to restore
the whole db. Instead they
Bruce,
great reply! great points to ponder!
Tom Mercadante
Oracle Certified Professional
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Ron,
I'm going to say that it might be possible with some provisions.
On Mon, 25 Jun 2001,Mohan, Ross scribbled on the wall in glitter crayon:
-I agree with His Chrisness on this one.
-
-If the avg(NT Admin) avg(Unix Admin), we'd
-all be reading this mail on Window's boxes.
-Er.what I mean to say is..
-
-sly grin
-
-but, in all seriousnesswhen there
HUMM, Our last unscheduled Unix down was due to the local power utility whereas
the last unscheduled down on NT was due to the Blue screen of death (Ok, so
the screen is Black on 2000).
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Well, I guess so if that was the only occurrence. I'll never know and I doubt
that they will fess-up.
At any rate, If one wants to use NT or any other OS for that matter in a 24x7
guaranteed manner then one should look into making as much as possible
redundant. Back in my Blue Suit days we
Well, I betcha the reliability of NT2K and unix is
very similar, given high level of SA competence and
following good system engineering procedures.
Anecdotal failure tales ( like Sun on Ebay, or any of the
other Unix failures on NASDAQ, etc. ) are more than
a bit similar to a game of
We are running Oracle on a clustered Unisys Aquanta system and have had very
few problems. I can only think of one time this year that I had unplanned
downtime.
The database files are on shared drives and the database software is
installed on two nodes, allowing us to switch to node B in the
Well, my UNIX box would probably run forever except that the DDS3 tape
changer can't seem to last a whole year without breaking. Need to shut the
machine down to replace the tape changer. I'm hoping to get lucky this year.
Only 120 days till victory!
# uptime
12:09 pm up 245 days, 1:01, 4
Ross Mohan for president!
Walking on water and developing software from a specification are easy if
both are frozen.
Christopher R. Spence
Oracle DBA
Fuelspot
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I am hearing such
Mark!
This is cool...you got the bleeding edge so
far out it's amazing
MaximumPC has had some great articles on the Ge3
technology...programmable textures, in hardware...
amazing
having said that, the number one ( and two, and
three and four ) problems with NT is that, in
supporting
On Tue, 26 Jun 2001,Mohan, Ross scribbled on the wall in glitter crayon:
-well, then there must be a whole lot of unix boxes out there because we've
-got 40 of them right here. i'd say all of my 32 databases have been up that
-much too, but i've only had 25 of them up a whole year.;-) yup, i
lolI just quote the Groucho Marx line: I wouldn't want
to be in any club that would have people like me as a member.
;-
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Ross Mohan for president!
Walking on water and developing
I am hearing such amazing storiesrunning for seven years
no failures in 4 years.never any failures except when
the NT administrator brought down the power grid, etc.
I am not an old hand, nor am I a greenhorn, but in my experience,
real, live production systems ( e.g. more than 100
Here's my Unix box:
# uptime
12:09 pm up 32,245 days, 1:01, 14543 users, load average: 120.19,
430.48, 3450.70
Here's my NT box:
# uptime
12:09 pm up 1 days, 1:01, 1 users, load average: 0.019, 0.008, 0.00070
So, obviously, NT sucks. dusting off hands.
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My life would be hanging by a pregnant chad.
That would be hard to explain to my Mum.
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GOOD LORD ROSS!!! I second it.
KK
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Subject: RE: OT RE: 24 x 7 on NT?
why doesnt anyone just compare the platforms that the respective nt/unix
versions run on? I dont really care for intel from square one, much less a
proprietary bloated, over marketed, under reliable software to run on top
The best part about this post is, is that when the original thread was
posted I KNEW it would turn into this:)
hehehheh
KK
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Author: Kevin Kostyszyn
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, June 26, 2001 3:56 PM
To: Mohan, Ross
Cc: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
Subject: RE: OT RE: 24 x 7 on NT?
why doesnt anyone just compare the platforms that the respective nt/unix
versions run on? I dont really care for intel from square one, much less a
proprietary bloated, over
(sarcasm noted)
but my question to those reporting high uptime measurements is:
that measure isn't a measurement of database availability or application
uptime... is it? so what, you've got a machine that's been up 32,000 days.
what does it do? that would be my first question. which isn't
Cc: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
Subject: RE: OT RE: 24 x 7 on NT?
why doesnt anyone just compare the platforms that the respective nt/unix
versions run on? I dont really care for intel from square one, much less
a
proprietary bloated, over marketed, under reliable software to run
Yeah. Check out
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0609uc_daction=Puc_comic=td
I think there is room to add a pony-tailed Hannibal.
Henry
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Sent: Tuesday, June 26, 2001 1:31 PM
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Ross
3:56 PM
To: Mohan, Ross
Cc: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
Subject: RE: OT RE: 24 x 7 on NT?
why doesnt anyone just compare the platforms that the respective nt/unix
versions run on? I dont really care for intel from square one, much less a
proprietary bloated, over marketed
It isn't monochrome anymore... Really! :-)
http://www.themes.org/php/pic.phtml?src=shots/990462645.jpg
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Sent: Tuesday, June 26, 2001 6:12 PM
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Oooh...wow! Quick, maybe we should run out and convince 90% of the
business
, 2001 5:34 PM
To: Mohan, Ross
Cc: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
Subject: RE: OT RE: 24 x 7 on NT?
I see you've picked up some buzzwords like PNG, GPS, nanokernel, and
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