Re: [osg-users] svn trunk build broke

2010-02-22 Thread Robert Osfield
Hi JS. On Mon, Feb 22, 2010 at 2:25 PM, Jean-Sébastien Guay jean-sebastien.g...@cm-labs.com wrote: The fact is that right now, there's one person with commit access. Errr no. This is not fact. There are several developers with commit access to svn/trunk and svn/branches. In the case of

Re: [osg-users] svn trunk build broke

2010-02-22 Thread Doug McCorkle
Hello Robert, On Feb 22, 2010, at 8:36 AM, Robert Osfield wrote: Hi JS. On Mon, Feb 22, 2010 at 2:25 PM, Jean-Sébastien Guay jean-sebastien.g...@cm-labs.com wrote: The fact is that right now, there's one person with commit access. Errr no. This is not fact. There are several developers

Re: [osg-users] svn trunk build broke

2010-02-22 Thread J.P. Delport
Hi, Robert Osfield wrote: I will state again. svn access does not scale like testing and debugging does. You can't scale up commit access and retain quality, consistency and productivity. Might I suggest reading a text like the Mythical Man Month will give you a few pointers about the

Re: [osg-users] svn trunk build broke

2010-02-22 Thread Jean-Sébastien Guay
Hi Robert, The fact is that right now, there's one person with commit access. Errr no. This is not fact. There are several developers with commit access to svn/trunk and svn/branches. In the case of svn/trunk those with commit access are for specific portions that they are the lead author

Re: [osg-users] svn trunk build broke

2010-02-22 Thread Robert Osfield
Hi JS, On Mon, Feb 22, 2010 at 3:04 PM, Jean-Sébastien Guay jean-sebastien.g...@cm-labs.com wrote: You know full well I meant commit access to the core on svn trunk. That's the main point right now. No I didn't know you meant something other than what you said. You said something that wasn't

Re: [osg-users] svn trunk build broke

2010-02-22 Thread Robert Osfield
On Mon, Feb 22, 2010 at 2:56 PM, J.P. Delport jpdelp...@csir.co.za wrote: Hi, how about having some tree of patch flow like e.g. linux kernel? Robert at the top - some people with experience on some subsystems/build configs - users/other devs. Ahfhfhghghg this is not the thread to discuss

Re: [osg-users] svn trunk build broke

2010-02-22 Thread Robert Osfield
On Mon, Feb 22, 2010 at 2:38 PM, Doug McCorkle mc...@iastate.edu wrote: Is this document somewhere where the community can see who has what permissions where on the svn repository? I thought there was one of what was loosely termed osg-crew from a few years back, but I can't find any details on

Re: [osg-users] svn trunk build broke

2010-02-22 Thread Mourad Boufarguine
Hi Robert, Just a small typo correction for the last link in http://www.openscenegraph.org/projects/osg/wiki/Community/Maintainers, I think you meant http://c*d*ash.openscenegraph.orghttp://cash.openscenegraph.org/ and not http://cash.openscenegraph.org :) Mourad On Mon, Feb 22, 2010 at 5:11

Re: [osg-users] svn trunk build broke

2010-02-22 Thread Jean-Sébastien Guay
Hi Robert, You know full well I meant commit access to the core on svn trunk. That's the main point right now. No I didn't know you meant something other than what you said. You said something that wasn't true so I corrected it. Don't forgot that you're not the only one reading this thread.

Re: [osg-users] svn trunk build broke

2010-02-22 Thread Thrall, Bryan
Mourad Boufarguine wrote on 2010-02-22: Just a small typo correction for the last link in http://www.openscenegraph.org/projects/osg/wiki/Community/Maintainers, I think you meant http://cdash.openscenegraph.org http://cash.openscenegraph.org/ and not http://cash.openscenegraph.org

Re: [osg-users] svn trunk build broke

2010-02-22 Thread Jean-Sébastien Guay
Hi J.P., PS. I've come across this great lecture series (with videos) from Andrew Tridgell (of Samba fame). Lecture 7: FOSS Governance might be of interest (in the sense of being informative, not prescriptive). http://cs.anu.edu.au/students/comp8440/lectures.php Thanks for sharing this! I've

Re: [osg-users] svn trunk build broke

2010-02-21 Thread Robert Osfield
Hi JS, On Sun, Feb 21, 2010 at 1:31 AM, Jean-Sébastien Guay jean-sebastien.g...@cm-labs.com wrote: Hi Robert, I am angry because of your attitude towards me, accusations of un-professionalism - something based on my inability to live up to your expectations on just how much work I can

Re: [osg-users] svn trunk build broke

2010-02-21 Thread Paul Martz
Robert Osfield wrote: Yes there is has been a bottleneck with submissions, and we've made some steps towards - we now have more contributors with write permission. However, this is really at the issue w.r.t this particular thread. It's the fact that I can't do testing on as widespread a

Re: [osg-users] svn trunk build broke

2010-02-20 Thread Robert Osfield
Hi Paul, On Fri, Feb 19, 2010 at 10:50 PM, Paul Martz pma...@skew-matrix.com wrote: Also, the general rule for most software development projects is: you break it, you fix it. In the context of community software project this attitude is corrosive. If we were all to apply this rule to all the

Re: [osg-users] svn trunk build broke

2010-02-20 Thread Paul Martz
Hi J-S -- Thanks for trying to intervene, it's appreciated. Jean-Sébastien Guay wrote: And Robert's under the gun (perhaps his own gun) to get a dev release out the door in a few days too. So suggesting he set up something new at this point in time was the same as him suggesting you fix the

Re: [osg-users] svn trunk build broke

2010-02-20 Thread Robert Osfield
Hi Paul, On Sat, Feb 20, 2010 at 4:02 PM, Paul Martz pma...@skew-matrix.com wrote: Robert isn't angry with me because I didn't submit a fix. he's angry because I said I thought he would want to test a GL3 build before tagging the release. His assertion that I should've fixed the errors came

Re: [osg-users] svn trunk build broke

2010-02-20 Thread Jean-Sébastien Guay
Hi Robert, I am angry because of your attitude towards me, accusations of un-professionalism - something based on my inability to live up to your expectations on just how much work I can personally take on. These expectations *are* unreasonable, so I will never be able to live up to your

Re: [osg-users] svn trunk build broke

2010-02-19 Thread Robert Osfield
Hi Paul, I need a complete list is am to fix them... :-) Robert. On Fri, Feb 19, 2010 at 6:39 PM, Paul Martz pma...@skew-matrix.com wrote: Hi Robert -- r11087 is currently broke for GL3 builds. I get errors of this form: 5..\..\..\src\osg\TexEnvFilter.cpp(41) : error C2039: 'notify' : is

Re: [osg-users] svn trunk build broke

2010-02-19 Thread Robert Osfield
Hi Paul, Is it simply that these .cpp's don't pull in include/osg/Notify any more due to clean ups of the headers? Robert. ___ osg-users mailing list osg-users@lists.openscenegraph.org

Re: [osg-users] svn trunk build broke

2010-02-19 Thread Paul Martz
Robert Osfield wrote: Is it simply that these .cpp's don't pull in include/osg/Notify any more due to clean ups of the headers? It's only occurring in the GL3 build; GL1/2 builds fine. If it were just a header issue, I'd think it'd be the same for both builds. -Paul

Re: [osg-users] svn trunk build broke

2010-02-19 Thread Robert Osfield
On Fri, Feb 19, 2010 at 7:24 PM, Paul Martz pma...@skew-matrix.com wrote: Robert Osfield wrote: Is it simply that these .cpp's don't pull in include/osg/Notify any more due to clean ups of the headers? It's only occurring in the GL3 build; GL1/2 builds fine. If it were just a header issue,

Re: [osg-users] svn trunk build broke

2010-02-19 Thread Robert Osfield
On Fri, Feb 19, 2010 at 7:23 PM, Paul Martz pma...@skew-matrix.com wrote: Robert Osfield wrote: I need a complete list is am to fix them... :-) Downloading gl3.h from opengl.org would allow you to do your own build. Please remember there is only one of me. I do try and chase up lots of

Re: [osg-users] svn trunk build broke

2010-02-19 Thread Paul Martz
Robert Osfield wrote: On Fri, Feb 19, 2010 at 7:23 PM, Paul Martz pma...@skew-matrix.com wrote: Robert Osfield wrote: I need a complete list is am to fix them... :-) Downloading gl3.h from opengl.org would allow you to do your own build. Please remember there is only one of me. I do try

Re: [osg-users] svn trunk build broke

2010-02-19 Thread Robert Osfield
On Fri, Feb 19, 2010 at 7:55 PM, Paul Martz pma...@skew-matrix.com wrote: It took me about 5 minutes to download gl3.h and set up an automated GL3 build for CDash on my second system. Regardless of your time constraints, you're just about to tag a release, so I'd think you would take the time

Re: [osg-users] svn trunk build broke

2010-02-19 Thread Paul Martz
Robert Osfield wrote: On Fri, Feb 19, 2010 at 7:55 PM, Paul Martz pma...@skew-matrix.com wrote: It took me about 5 minutes to download gl3.h and set up an automated GL3 build for CDash on my second system. Regardless of your time constraints, you're just about to tag a release, so I'd think you

Re: [osg-users] svn trunk build broke

2010-02-19 Thread Robert Osfield
On Fri, Feb 19, 2010 at 9:09 PM, Paul Martz pma...@skew-matrix.com wrote: I reject your assertion that I'm out of line. If you were an employee at any company I've worked at in the past, and were about to tag a release without testing the build, you'd be cited for poor QA. Right back at you

Re: [osg-users] svn trunk build broke

2010-02-19 Thread Jean-Sébastien Guay
I hate being the one to get between you two, but I think this is getting out of hand. As is often the case in these heated arguments, you're both right, and you're both wrong. Paul, finding which header is missing from the places where you get the errors would probably not be too hard.

Re: [osg-users] svn trunk build broke

2010-02-19 Thread Paul Martz
Jean-Sébastien Guay wrote: Paul, finding which header is missing from the places where you get the errors would probably not be too hard. I often do provide fixes, but I'm under the gun to get demos out the door in a few days. Also, the general rule for most software development projects is:

Re: [osg-users] svn trunk build broke

2010-02-19 Thread Paul Martz
Robert Osfield wrote: Thanks for the error file. GL1/2 build fine because for the files you've specified there is not notify usage in the GL1/2 paths, only in the non GL1/2 paths. Ah! Makes sense. r11097 has fixes the vast majority of the errors. There is only one dangler at this point:

Re: [osg-users] svn trunk build broke

2010-02-19 Thread Jean-Sébastien Guay
Hi Paul, Paul, finding which header is missing from the places where you get the errors would probably not be too hard. I often do provide fixes, but I'm under the gun to get demos out the door in a few days. And Robert's under the gun (perhaps his own gun) to get a dev release out the