Hi,
I have. Once a wound gets infected with Staph and unless the SSD was
covered really thickly overwhelming sepsis resulted. We actually
cultured MRSA from wound exudates with the SSD. Some people where
conscious of the cost of the tubs and would skimp the application. One
could say these people
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Tania,
The
easiest way to avoid conflict is to walk away. The bravest and strongest battle
everyday, unfortunately people often don't see these battles and nobody pins a
medal on their chest!
Unfortunately, I personally feel this, those in management positions are
put there
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I am
saddened you are leaving the list Sadie. Your reasoning and experiences has been
wonderful to read. I agree too many fronts to battle leaves one exposed in the
rear. Your health is far more important. Keep up the great work in the high risk
environment I support you 100%
Why only hanging around the door. I have had them come in and push me
out to then tell the mother how to push and ''look I ''saved'' them!
Barb
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Sent: Friday, 6 October 2006 3:57 PM
To:
Hi,
Thanks for that point Andrea because I had the opposite where I had
really encouraged oral fluids and dietary intake.
I had a young primip T+3 who experienced spurious labour for 2 days,
visiting BS each day 'just in case', on the beginning of her 3rd
presentation she was admitted given
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Sonja,
I
agree having preceptored a newly graduated RN who was accepted to do her
midwifery without any post grad work as a nurse. After her initial culture shock
of not being one to one in the post natal ward which they have had as student
nurses.She had an extreme learning
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Tiff,
I understand University of Queensland starts theirs next
year!
Barb
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dianeSent: Monday, 2 October 2006 3:48 PMTo:
ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.auSubject: Re:
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I have
seen in a small country private hospital nurses doing sheep herding trick- one
nurse puts a woman in one room while the Dr goes into the other room with a
woman who has had her BP and urine checked by the nurse and is lying down
'ready' for Dr. After he has finished he
start making policies and if we don't follow
what they think is correct procedure they don't pay up. Has this been covered
with the company?
Thanks everyone
Lisa
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Sent
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Justine you have so eloquently state the bleeding obvious. I am one
hospital midwife who hopes and prays this insurance comes available. I plan to
provide home care for birthing women but ethically and morally I will not do so
until I know PI is there.
To be
truly recognised
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Lisa,
Personalising debate is not wholesome. Its like NIMBY
debates!
An
email went out via ACM update that people can subscribe to about PI to express
an interest to the CEO at that stage. This was then relayed onto ozmidwifery. I
do not think it has progressed beyond an
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Congratulations Joy, you did so well for the woman. You were probably so
discrete the woman may never have known you had to stand up for her rights and
dignity so she could get into her birthing space.Take him on and just remind him
that workplace bullying is not a good
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I
concur with you both.. I have noticed that even women with impaired glucose
metabolism are now being treated as GDM 'just in case' same as most of these
women are being subjected to endless two-three times a week CTG's from 34 weeks
'just in case'. After being exposed to
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Kelly,
She
has Type 1 diabetes and hyperosmolar ketoacidosis is very serious to them
pregnant or not. It is not a common feature of Type 2 unless you have a serious
infection going on or have a huge electrolyte imbalance.
Now
with pregnancy most mothers who develop GDM are
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Hi
Kylie,
it
seems strange that one cannot do both these days-children and continued with
career. I had my first at 23yo newly graduated as a RGON and continued to
work full-time and studying. Age 28 for the second and then I went part-time 4
days per week. Is there anything
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Hi I
checked out the public access for Qld Medical registration Board. This should
take you to the page. I will check out more as his listed address is c/-
Caboolture Hospital. It is in the same district as me so I will do some asking
around. Lots of trouble there at the
Title: Message
Don't
believe all you read from the media. It is sad a woman has had to go through
this however when people are grieving they do make outrageous comments and want
to put blame somewhere.
I will
not speak on this case specifically but you can read my comments of a general
Title: Message
Congratulations Carolyn and midwives. So pleasing to hear of success and
the strength of the politicians to remain loyal and faithful to what women are
wanting.
We
have had small hiccoughs in the North Lakes model of care (Redcliffe-Caboolture)
but we are resuming 17/7.
Fabulous comment Mary. The importance of space and privacy cannot be
underestimated.
Barb
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mary Murphy
Sent: Thursday, 22 June 2006 9:32 AM
To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au
Subject: RE: [ozmidwifery] Your
Ye I would like to see that.
Barb
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kelly @
BellyBelly
Sent: Thursday, 22 June 2006 9:23 AM
To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au
Subject: RE: [ozmidwifery] Your thoughts on Birth Plans?
Oh dear emails are not
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Hi
Astra,
If you
read Pauline Scott's book Optimal Foetal Positioning you will see the technique
described, at least that's where I think it is in. I have used this technique
but you rely on an intact firm pelvic floor. Does not work as well when an
epidural is insitu which
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Hi,
At
Redcliffe I actually encourage IDDM/GDM's on insulin women to express prior to
OT if I am OT list for the day. It may only be a few mils/drops but I have found
that this usually satisfies the infant, no formula sups required
generally.Essential that the mum's BGL were
Title: Message
Hi Judy, If you go onto QHEPS
and look at Child Health there is a lovely section on breastfeeding where
ittalks about boiled water. there is also a goodpublication put out
by QAS recently on how to deal with heat stress in young babies and children
that we gave to our mums
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Just read the
fuller details. Seems to me the midwives took her to hospital correctly
but a huge delay in being seen by the Dr! Seems to me there is
scaremongering going on. Love to know more about the Dr stats.
Title: Message
FYI, just when
we are hoping for reform here there is this tragic report from NZ.
Barb
This article is owned by, or has been licensed to,
the New Zealand Herald. You may not reproduce, publish, electronically
Hi Julia,
The time is ripe with major maternity services reform happening in this
state at the moment. The Gold Coast Birth Centre is just awaiting (like
other new models of care) for the new negotiated industrial award to be
announced. I cannot tell you much more about that as negotiations are
Title: Message
Oh to
have nights like this. Most night shifts where I am it is rareto
even get a chance for a toilet break let alone something to drink. We have been
trying for years just to get somebody to provide meal relief shifts in all three
areas of Mid - BS, SCN and the ward which
Title: RE: [ozmidwifery] Re: diabetes incipidus and breastfeeding
Hi Barb,
I seem to remember something in my ICU days, another life. Sheenans Syndrome- necrosis of the anterior piturity lobe usually due to severe haemorrage. APL secretes TSH, ACTH, gonadotrophins, growth hormone,
: [ozmidwifery] Post cs support
Barb ,
I am in awe that you have been able to do so much great work after this
trauma and the effects that it must have had on you,
Hugs
Pinky
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From: B G [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au
Sent: Sunday, February 05, 2006 11
of life.
Cheers
Judy
--- B G [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
There is no 'cure' for PTSD!! You just learn to manage the triggers
but even then the physiological responses sometimes get away from
you. Some
people wonder why you are so serious- so would you if you had
this
constant mind battle
There is no 'cure' for PTSD!! You just learn to manage the triggers but
even then the physiological responses sometimes get away from you. Some
people wonder why you are so serious- so would you if you had this
constant mind battle to control triggers.
Barb- chronic PTSD sufferer, 8 years after an
Boronia flower essence had an amazing and instant
effect on the reruns in my head. Stopped them immediately I took the
drops! Best wishes to you, J
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From: B G [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au
Sent: Sunday, February 05, 2006 11:45 AM
Subject: RE
Given that it is usually poor diet and lifestyle that cause the
obesity...Hopefully this woman has learned to clean up her lifestyle on
a permanent basis for hers and future children's benefit.
OOOH Judgement statement!!
We are very quick to lay blame. Many of these women are victims. Victims
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Found on a newsgroup a bit of lightening the
load.
Barb
Q: I've heard that cardiovascular
exercise can prolong life. Is this true?A: Your heart is only good for
so many beats, and that's it...don't waste them on exercise. Everything
wears out eventually. Speeding up your
Hi all,
Am I assume that they are using mercury glass thermometers?
Mercury Thermometers have been banned for clinical use in hospitals in
Australia for about 8 years now primarily due to the OH S concerns of
the mercury and where to put the waste if one breaks, as they do. It was
agreed (I am
Title: Message
Interesting article. Further evidence we, as a group need to talk to
governments to have legislation changed to ensure these hire guns are harnessed.
Letting RANZCOG tutor experts will be dangerous and will continue the
abuse.
Hired
guns- Medical officers that can be brought
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Hi
Di,
I work
at Redcliffe. The district incorporates Caboolture Hospital so if one is casual
can work between the 2 hospitals. Distance between is 32km's. Caboolture has
about 1600 births per year and Redcliffe about 1200. These
numbershave increased by about 20% in the
Title: Message
Isn't
it sad to have to counsel a woman breastfeeding her 4 day old baby who expressed
her worry that her baby will be too fat because of the frequent breast feeding
when I did a home visit last Thursday!
May I
remind people we are who we are and genetics will be the major
Title: Message
We do
fundoscopic examination of the eyes which isn't easy, you have to be very
patient for the open eyes. Barb
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QuanchiSent: Thursday, 1 December 2005 6:38 PMTo:
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Jenny,
Are
you referring to partial pressure gradients of O2 and CO2? Simultaneously - when
there is no blood flow, placenta to baby cord has stopped pulsating therefore no
pressure gradient to push oxygen transfer. Once the baby isexposed to room
environment a breath is
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We
have an OB who does not wait for restitution, instead is now training the
Registrars before even looking at the way the head has come out to pull downward
on the head, put their hand beside the head in the vagina and sweep the anterior
arm forward. I have seen a run of 4 #
Title: Message
I had
advicebut basically I was told that this not waiting for restitution is
now a RANZCOG policy therefore midwife against OB practice.recently this OB just
smiled at me and said 'this is where we disagree in the birth' as one of these
mums is back for her second. A student
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Brenda,
I think this is the article you were trying to send to
the list. I tried to send it the other day as this is were I graduated as a
General and Obstetric Nurses all those years ago. this is a good place to
work.I repeated and did midwifery here in aussie in
1995.
Barb
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Level
2 or Clinical Nurse (now known as Nursing Officer 2) midwives do not have to be
shift coordinators. The position description (generic)primarily refers
toa midwife (nurse) who isable to care for complex care
clients. Unfortunately it is Queensland Health and managers who
with, then all the other rubbish.
Rachel
From: B G [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au
To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au
Subject: RE: [ozmidwifery] level 2 midwives
Date: Tue, 1 Nov 2005 20:54:44 +1000
Level 2 or Clinical Nurse (now known as Nursing Officer 2) midwives do
because one does not get the position and
hence pay, on ability but on the number of such positions avialable.
Cheers
Judy
--- B G [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Level 2 or Clinical Nurse (now known as Nursing Officer 2) midwives
do not have to be shift coordinators. The position description
Sorry Tania,
I must have this reply to my email. I have concerns with the thinning or
another layer of midwifery with Midwife Practitioner. To me a midwife is
a midwife and a midwife. OK we can all develop other competencies but
basically we should be able to care for birth women and their
Title: Message
Hi all,
I returned from the
ANF Biannual Conferencelast week. There was
a good representation of midwives there but unfortunately we did not have a
chance to really network as midwives. Perhaps next time we should get together
in a break.
It was an interesting
conference.
Title: Message
Fantastic there is our funding for North Lakes project!! We have been so
pressured for several years in this Redcliffe-Caboolture
district.
Gold
Coast Birth centre looks like it is now funded and even Beaudesert looks like it
might have maternity services restored via Logan
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So
inaccurate about what NP are going to be doing in Qld! Trials are in various
areas- ED, Palliative Care, Rural and in Cairns Midwife. There are clear defined
protocol and endorsed processes 'within' hospital frameworks. Scope of practice
is clearly defined. Another example
I believe there is a midwife at Emerald
who does home births. I will forward to colleagues there.
Cheers Barb
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Subject:
Title: Re: [ozmidwifery] FW: Too many c/s in Gawler
Does anyone know where obstetrician Don Cave is going to in Brisbane? Hopefully not this Redcliffe- Caboolture district again.
Cheers Barb
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Behalf Of
into a new phase of their lives. One of the
advantages to also being a MCHN is that I get to see the periodically
over the coming year or so.
Andrea
On 07/08/2005, at 10:33 PM, B G wrote:
Our antenatal midwifery team was split up because the NUM decided the
women were becoming too dependent on us
Andrea,
Why do you feel you have to answer anything? Whilst it's difficult why
do we seem to fall into the same trap of having to respond to bullying
and in this case sheer intimidation from management. It's like 'my guns
bigger than yours' stuff. Bluff them out.
May I suggest take the patients
to many pages and
discusses the issues as I see them. When it is finished I may post it
depending on what my advice is. You have to remember that things from
this list have a way of making their way back to people you don't think
they will
Andrea
On 07/08/2005, at 7:56 PM, B G wrote:
Andrea
Emily,
I am not surprised with your examiner
attitude. It sucks. I am surprised that you were not told you hadnt
asked her address. You see we are creating snobs and we are getting confused to
what really counts. Even where I work I witness midwives and Drs judging
women by where they
You need to check which award state or federal?
Cheers Barb
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jeannine
Bradow
Sent: Wednesday, 22 June 2005 10:23 PM
To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au
Subject: RE: [ozmidwifery] rates of pay
Jennifairy, try
You do not have to be a member of the ANF to get the rates of pay. Each
state has a wageline or similar where people can access the rates. I
will try and get the Qld hyperlink addy for you
Cheers Barb
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are
not nurses. I suggested to the ANF that they think about changing their
name to ANMF - I mean, theres no provision on their website even for
joining up as a 'midwife' for gods sake! Whoever is in 'member
recruitment' there has some work to do :))
cheers
Jennifairy
B G wrote:
You do not have
Janet,
What a fantastic web site. Thank you as this information will help the
very many large ladies that I see in clinic. Their only crime being BMI
35. These women need midwifery care, just don't hand them over please.
Cheers Barb
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Hi
Justine,
Jan
has answered it beautifully.
Just
another point at our hospital all mother to be of twins are pressured/bullied
into a LSCS due to an (one) adverse outcome regardless of the type of twins. so
now all have their day in theatre usually at 38 weeks, with all
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I
loved especially the bit about the penis, it made my hubby cringe and then laugh
'she won that point, ouch'. Well done Justine!
cheers
Barb
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I
agree whole heartily. Unfortunately there are some driving the agenda's that are
pushing Midwife Practitioners entry are at a MASTERS level further devaluing the
uniqueness levelling of midwives- we are all midwives, a midwife is a midwife.
how can we possibly further the
This is an awesome site. Can anyone help me with a midwifery/nurse
theorist for these examples. Roys came to my mind when I was reading
through. Thanks Lieve
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Huybrechts
Sent: Friday, 15 April 2005 4:01
We have a saying here the Union is YOU! Its not Anne Smith some faceless
person, energies and information comes from ourselves.
Here in Queensland QNU has a midwifery Reference group with very
experienced midwives from all areas. Has NSW got that? ACMI and QNU are
talking how we may progress
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Australian College of Operating Room Nurses www.acorn.org.au is the link Jo.
Cheers
Barb
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I trained there as Registered Nurse and dare
I say it Obstetric Nurse. Before the authors of optimal foetal positioning was
there I think.Small world.
Cheers Barb
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I am
interested in this alleged discrimination issue. As a QNU (not QNC) Councillor I
would invite persons affected in Queensland to email me off list soI can
take specifics, keeping people's identity out,to the next Council meeting.
people can also contact QNU direct as
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Yes Pinky, I lived on a small dairy farm at
Rotoehu or Pongakawa Valley -in the bush. I went to Te Puke High, nee
Hastie part of the Pittar whanu as well (from Maketu). Where you one of the
Paengaroa Schutt's? Would be interested to know, take care Barb
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Please revise this
detail in your contacts list
Cheers
Barb
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NEW SHADOW MINISTER ASSISTING THE LEADER FOR THE
STATUS OF WOMEN- TANYA PLIBERSEK Tanya Plibersek is the new Shadow Minister for
Work, Family
There are two forms of nifedipine - one sub-lingual and the other 20mg
for oral ingestion. We use the 20mg oral ingestion every 20 minutes by 5
doses only. but I do know some places use the S/l dose but only 10mg.
One brand was the green gel capsule that one could aspirate the solution
and pop
Are these healthy women actually woken up for obs during the night! That
is ridiculous.
We do daily T, P and only do the BP if elevated antenatally or in Birth
Suite and then it may only be daily. If she required IOL for BP then she
may be on TDS BP never at night. After the first 24 hours of a
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I have
assisted a woman who had ITP with coags 40. Dr's were very reluctant to use
an epidural and instead used a fentanyl PCA. This was very effective, she wasn't
too drugged and as fentanyl has a very short half life seemed to work well with
her, minmal effect on the infant
Redcliffe is just north of Brisbane so could you check which area you
mean?
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Sent: Tuesday, 12 October 2004 10:40 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [ozmidwifery] Active Birth classes at Redcliffe
Title: Message
Anne
Louise,
Until
our Obstetrician retired a few years ago we had private/public patients in the
same ward cared for by the same midwives in BS and ward without any trouble what
so ever. Sometimes the Obs got there late, no problems. The only issue was when
they went home
Title: Message
I
recommend it to clients especially if their haemoglobin levels are very low.
Feed back is that the ladies tolerate it much better, less constipating and it
really work quickly.
Cheers
Barb
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Our director has made his decision on a risk assessment model of care.
Litigation being the prime reason. Hence nothing to do with evidence
based practice or clinical need. G... Don't you hate because if you
go against the establishment policy/protocol and something happened you
wont be
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I have a dilemma.
CTG's- we all know research has proven admission CTG's are of no benefit however
when there has been a verbal workplace directive by the Director of O G as
a litigation risk management that all admissions to Birth Suite
have a routine baseline CTG and you
I found the page as per link.
Sunday, I downloaded the new Windows XP SP2 update that put up its own
firewall as part of the package. I was unable to do anything including
banking on line, yahoo games and opening links like these. I quickly
removed this update as I have a good virus buster in VET.
I accessed without problems but it does take time for the images to
appear even with ADSL. As you said most of it is under construction. Is
this part of Birth International? I thought it was a new concept.
Cheers Barb
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Helen,
From
my limited knowledge as an ex-kiwi there is no opportunity to sue. I hope others
will correct me if I have got it wrong.
If an
adverse event occurs the injured person have the right to be supported or as
long as it takes for recovery or for comfort by the ACC.
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To dear
listers,
Is there anyone on
the list who worked with O G Dr Hassan Titiz in Melbourne? I think he was
at Sunshine Hospital but cannot be sure.
Cheers
Barb
Title: Message
Last few days on the
list Pinky advised us of her next visit to Brisbane. I remember it was at the
Ester Centre but somehow your email has since disappeared. Is it possible for it
to be resent as I have a had enquiries from people who want to
attend.
Thanks in
anticipation
I did a great birth last week which showed the woman's strength and
belief in her own body. 3rd pregnancy with twins. Usual IOL at 38 weeks
but declined an epidural which was respected. History of precipitate
births.
I come onto Birth Suite at 2.30 with a new student who had only assisted
at
Title: Message
Ditto,
well put Joy.
We must always remember that all women have the right to choose.
High risk women have much reduced choices but lets ensure that these women can
also be attended to by midwives educated and mindful of the risk factors. Many
women are delaying birth so
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Justine,
I
agree with you on what you have put here. I'd love to be able to attend healthy
women which most are but even healthy women can run into difficulties. It is
then a 'good' midwife who would consult and refer with the woman's best
interests in mind.
An
adverse
Title: Message
Mez think-
.the lucrative reproductive
technology decent hours, more money, technically interesting but then
they may go for ultrasounds, be at the cutting edge, develop emotionally charged
super pictures of smiling babes for equally indulgent parents to
be who know no
for the Festival
when he was the Pollie.
Cheers,
Cas.
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Sent: Friday, 30 May 2003 7:29 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [ozmidwifery] Back again...
Congratulations on your birth. Enjoy your infant
Congratulations on your birth. Enjoy your infant, they grow up too fast.
One of the organisers of Woodford's festival wife is a supporter of NMAP
and she is a pollie (and so was he at one stage) so good luck for
Woodford. It is a magical festival.
Keep up BAG - there is a need for the group.
Unfortunately AIRC gave us (Public sector) the Business Planning
Framework as part of the interim or MX award not ratios. It is complex
to describe but it seems to be working at Townsville Hospital. If you
get onto their home page and look up the Red File it has the rostering
project which uses
Good luck Carolyn with the NSWNA elections. Andrea the conference looks
good. Dearly love to go.
I was recently elected to QNU Council as a member and also as the only
practicing midwife. I will always speak up for midwifery practice and
the families we support.
Qld members please start
YES YES YES YES you can join QNU
I have attempted to ensure QNU Councillors are aware/educated that
there are midwives who are not nurses practicing in QLD. You are not the
first midwife to do so and some have been practicing for years!
QNU put out an alert recently to agency staff regarding
Sandra,
What you have written is so true. People like to 'leave it to someone
else' or 'I'm too busy' yet are so critical when things don't pan out
the way they wish.
I also feel some of that behaviour is indicative of repressed groups.
Bullying behaviours are so rampant in health many people fail
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