Re: [ozmidwifery] Goodbye

2006-10-15 Thread carol
hat is the point of everyone agreeing with everyone? Everyone's opinion is valuable and should be shared Carol.     Stephen & Felicity <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Personally, I love Lisa Barrett's contributions.  I've NEVER found her rude (though ofte

Re: [ozmidwifery] I need to clarify myself!! Coles Baby

2006-08-31 Thread Carol Fallows
ed by the Royal Children's Hospital in Melbourne and very much toes the orthodox line - the idea of a doula and no doctor being present is unlikely to be acceptable. Best wishes, Carol Fallows - Original Message - From: Kelly @ BellyBelly To: ozmidwifery@acegraph

Re: [ozmidwifery] childrens books on grief

2006-08-14 Thread Carol Fallows
(or put in a want). Kind regards, Carol Fallows - Original Message - From: "Megan & Larry" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Monday, August 14, 2006 11:26 PM Subject: RE: [ozmidwifery] childrens books on grief My favourite book on life and death is "Beginnings and

Re: [ozmidwifery] ] FW: Birthcentre/ homebirth

2006-06-25 Thread Carol Fallows
Title: Re: [ozmidwifery] ] FW: Birthcentre/ homebirth I'm not very good at blowing my own trumpet, but it is the latest Australian book on pregnancy and birth... Having a Baby. The essential Australian to pregnancy and birth. It is sold by Birth International.   Carol Fallowsph. 02 9969

Re: [ozmidwifery] Anyone know?

2006-06-12 Thread Carol Fallows
Sydney this way. Cheaper than Amazon, though not always quicker. They also have a booksleuth facility which can be helpful. Good luck! Carol     Carol FallowsFallows & AssociatesEditorial, publishing and PR servicesph. 02 9969 1228 (bh) fax 9969 9526, mobile 0419 49 69 70web

Re: [ozmidwifery] Introducing solids too early

2006-06-12 Thread Carol Fallows
Title: Re: [ozmidwifery] Introducing solids too early Thanks. Not a lot. I sold Murdoch the rights so its not really my book - I don't make any more money out of it. I'm thinking of doing another one in the next year or so. Carol   Carol FallowsFallows & AssociatesABN 57 776 135

Re: [ozmidwifery] Introducing solids too early

2006-06-08 Thread Carol Fallows
Hi Barb, We are aware of the problem with the probiotics ad. Thanks, Carol   Carol FallowsFallows & AssociatesABN 57 776 135 100Editorial, publishing and PR servicesph. 02 9969 1228 (bh) fax 9969 9526website: www.carolfallows.com.au - Original Message - From: Bar

Re: [ozmidwifery] Introducing solids too early

2006-06-08 Thread Carol Fallows
acklist and it is under Food for Life. Thank you, Carol   Carol FallowsFallows & AssociatesABN 57 776 135 100Editorial, publishing and PR servicesph. 02 9969 1228 (bh) fax 9969 9526, website: www.carolfallows.com.au - Original Message - From: Päivi Laukkanen

Re: [ozmidwifery] Introducing solids too early

2006-06-07 Thread Carol Fallows
le in the Ecologist.   Carol FallowsFallows & AssociatesABN 57 776 135 100Editorial, publishing and PR servicesph. 02 9969 1228 (bh) fax 9969 9526website: www.carolfallows.com.au - Original Message - From: Justine Caines To: OzMid List Sent: Thursday, June 08, 2006 1

Re: [ozmidwifery] Introducing solids too early

2006-06-07 Thread Carol Fallows
ad to allergies) . Hope that's helpful Carol Fallows - Original Message - From: Päivi Laukkanen To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Sent: Wednesday, June 07, 2006 5:20 PM Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Introducing solids too early Hi Kelly,   I can'

RE: [ozmidwifery] massage in pregnancy

2006-04-15 Thread Carol Van Lochem
m someone suing if they happened to suffer a miscarriage shortly after a massage. Doubt that any such action would ever stand up in court anyway. Carol From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.auSubject: [ozmidwifery] massage in pregnancyDate: Fri, 14 Apr 2006 14:26:00 +1000 Hi

RE: [ozmidwifery] Re:Sad Story, any help please?

2006-04-02 Thread Carol Van Lochem
o continue to breast feed if she wishes to. Hopefully her supply won't have been too badly effected . Kind regards Carol > Date: Sun, 2 Apr 2006 18:18:55 +1000> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [ozmidwifery] Re:Sad Story, any help please?> To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au> &g

RE: [ozmidwifery] question

2005-11-19 Thread Carol Van Lochem
That is exactly what is happening where I work due to one of our new Drs having been taught not to wait for restitution & now we seem to have a "dystocia" every week (sigh) From: "Tania Smallwood" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>Reply-To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.auTo: Subject: RE: [ozmidwifery] questionDa

Re: [ozmidwifery] support people in OT

2005-10-18 Thread Carol Van Lochem
s on those tiny trollies with a full spinal block! Carol From:  Andrea Quanchi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>Reply-To:  ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.auTo:  ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.auSubject:  Re: [ozmidwifery] support people in OTDate:  Tue, 18 Oct 2005 15:17:11 +1000>Where I work we count wome

Re: [ozmidwifery] sounds during labour/birth

2005-08-04 Thread Carol Van Lochem
Tucked away in a quiet corner of the hospital on, the top floor above theatre, lies our labour ward. It has been in the throws of renovation since January. (It was meant to be completed in March) Our "temporary" labour rooms have been set up in 2 of our 2 bed postnatal rooms, and if these are full

RE: [ozmidwifery] Rh anti-D

2005-08-02 Thread Carol Van Lochem
I had a similar experience when pregnant. My antenatal bloods grouped me as A Neg. I had given blood years before & knew I was A Pos. When I queried it with our ob he just felt it best to treat me as negative anyway. I wasn't happy about recieving blood products unnecessarily, so enquired at the B

[ozmidwifery] See you at ICM!!!

2005-07-22 Thread Carol Van Lochem
I am heading off to Brisbane tomorrow am. Hope to meet / reaquaint with many of you there. safe travelling. Carol -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit to subscribe or unsubscribe.

RE: [ozmidwifery] Risk of uterine rupture + CARES

2005-07-09 Thread Carol Van Lochem
I agree Jo, We have a VBAc model here that provides known midwife care especially to women that have had a traumatic experience with their past birth. We also have a team model available (5 midwives... not all women are fussed about 1 particular carer). One ob doesn't refer many VBAC women to us,

Re: [ozmidwifery] broken collar bone & subsequent birth

2005-06-26 Thread Carol Van Lochem
on't have time to get stuck!!(Go figure). As a result we are getting an increased number of shoulder dystocias, and with in that group a number of fractured clavicles, where as I'd rarely ever seen them before. They appear to occur for the 2 docs that don't wait for restitution, but

RE: [ozmidwifery] Problems With new Models

2005-06-24 Thread Carol Van Lochem
Hi Kim, We'd love to have you here!! Can't you convince your husband to sell up & buy a farm near here? (Haa Haa). We have apparently had some applicants & they will be interviewed next week, so hopefully there will be 5 again soon. cheers Carol>From: "Kim Stead&quo

Re: [ozmidwifery] Problems With new Models

2005-06-15 Thread Carol Van Lochem
Hi Andrea, Thanks for the 'hug' :0 We would not rule out B Mids & post grad dips if they were interested. Carol>From: "Andrea Bilcliff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>>Reply-To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au>To: >Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Problems With new Models

Re: [ozmidwifery] Problems With new Models

2005-06-15 Thread Carol Van Lochem
Hi Denise, No I haven't spoken to Ryde. Are they in W.A.? Warragul is 1 hour East of Melbourne. It is beautiful dairy country with rolling hills. It is 1 hour from the beach & 1 hour from Mount Baw Baw if you're into skiing. Doesn't it just want to make you live here?;)) Carol

Re: [ozmidwifery] Problems With new Models

2005-06-14 Thread Carol Van Lochem
ifery generally if we are going to "sell" this type of model to our collegues around the state of Vic. and hopefully the nation itself. These are some of the problems we are experiencing here that I did not expect. Thanks for taking the time to reply Regards Carol   >From: Andre

RE: FW: [ozmidwifery] Problems With new Models

2005-06-12 Thread Carol Van Lochem
to be dealt with if we want these models of care to succeed. Regards Carol>From: "Robyn Thompson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>>Reply-To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au>To: "'Kim Stead'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>>CC: >Subject: FW: [ozmidwifery] Problems Wi

[ozmidwifery] Problems With new Models

2005-06-12 Thread Carol Van Lochem
g for it, only to risk losing it all through lack of willing staff. This problem must be coming up for others in Victoria as caseload models are put forward in other regions.   Any thoughts, suggestions, simmilar experiences?  I am truely at my wits end. Sigh :(   Thanks for listening Carol -- This ma

[ozmidwifery] Mid positions available in Warragul, Vic.

2005-06-02 Thread Carol Van Lochem
http://www.wghg.com.au/jobads.htm   Cheers Carol -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit to subscribe or unsubscribe.

Re: [ozmidwifery] breech baby wisdom

2004-09-18 Thread Carol Van Lochem
mind throughout. Carol >From: JoFromOz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] breech baby wisdom >Date: Fri, 17 Sep 2004 10:42:14 +0800 > > >> >>They probably were pushing for her to have a caesar...I&

Re: [ozmidwifery] Free Standing Birth Centres

2004-09-16 Thread Carol Van Lochem
Build it & they shall come...so "they" say!! Carol;))) >From: Ceri & Katrina <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Free Standing Birth Centres >Date: Thu, 16 Sep 2004 20:23:13 +1000

RE: [ozmidwifery] introduction

2004-09-11 Thread Carol Van Lochem
Hello Tanya, welcome to the list Carol >From: "Tanya drumm" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Subject: [ozmidwifery] introduction >Date: Fri, 10 Sep 2004 10:08:11 +1000 > >Hi everyone, > >I have been a membe

FW: Re: [ozmidwifery] Lobbying Update and Federal Election Campaign

2004-07-20 Thread Carol Van Lochem
perineum    66% Perineal tears   29% Episiotomy    3.7% Episiotomy + tear 0.6% VBAC attempts   80% VBAC acheived    60% I think these figures speak for themselves. Some of them are State Benchmarks. Any wonder the poor man "seemed knocked out" Yours in midwifery Carol Van Lochem     >

FW: Re: [ozmidwifery] Tragic c-section outcome

2004-06-29 Thread Carol Van Lochem
nning a VBAC. To not do so would be a little bit like not letting her cross the road because you once heard that a friend of a friend got run over by a bus. Carol From: "Abby and Toby" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [oz

[ozmidwifery] New midwifery models for Vic.,what grade?

2004-06-27 Thread Carol Van Lochem
I was wondering what the feeling is among fellow Victorian midwives in respect to this new model of care being proposed by the State Gov. What grade/ classifcation does everyone feel that midwives working in teams with their own caseload should be paid? I feel that they should be Clinical Midwi

[ozmidwifery] Hello, an introduction

2004-06-27 Thread Carol Van Lochem
Hi everyone, My name is Carol Van Lochem. I have just come back onboard after a year or two of absence from this group. I have been a midwife for 13 years and am currently working at West Gippsland Hospital in Warragul, Vic. We are a very busy unit (in rural terms) with alot of support from one

[ozmidwifery] Updating book

2004-03-22 Thread Carol Fallows
a national magazine on the subject means that I am not as in touch as I would like to be. Any comments, criticisms, help - would be much appreciated, Thanks   Carol FallowsFreelance magazine editor & writer63 Wood Street, Manly  2095 AustraliaPh 02-9976 6177; Fax 02-9976 6188www.carolfallows.com.au    

Re: [ozmidwifery] Cervidil mailout

2003-07-08 Thread Carol Thorogood
t is unfair to say the ACMI is touting products like Cervidil. If it did then it would publish material saying that the ACMI recommends this product to the exclusion of all others. If we wanted to publish an article critiquing the efficacy and safety of Cervidil etc the ACMI wouldn't c

Re: [ozmidwifery] Cervidil mailout

2003-07-08 Thread Carol Thorogood
members object to this system then they can ask that their name be withdrawn from all mailing lists! Having said this it is probably too hard for the ACMI to determine which bits we want to be told about and which bits we don't. In other words we get it all or none! Carol -- This m

[ozmidwifery] RE: Hullo bethany

2003-05-05 Thread Carol Thorogood
Hullo Bethany Well how about that! Fancy hearing from you! What are you up to these days? I'm working for Newcastle and the John Hunter hospital doing research. Excellent fun and really good to get away from academia for a while. carol -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics.

[ozmidwifery] Re: birthing

2002-12-09 Thread Carol Thorogood
birth don't work. As we all know epidurals are wonderful for some women but in quite a few cases they have little effect and sometimes they are dangerous. Carol Associate Professor Carol Thorogood School of Nursing and Midwifery Faculty of Health Newcastle University University Drive,

Re: [ozmidwifery] Bumper stickers for ladies!

2002-12-01 Thread Carol Thorogood
That made the point rather well!, C -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit to subscribe or unsubscribe.

RE: [ozmidwifery] Parliament discussion on Indemnity coverage

2002-10-23 Thread Carol Thorogood
d she was in anything we had to say. All she wanted was pm tea. I just don't think it is worth it. I reckon we should keep on with people like Aiden Ridgeway Meg Lees etc (both are really supportive) and, pleasant. Carol Carol Thorogood Visiting Midwifery Scholar School of Nursin

Re: [ozmidwifery] Placenta and post natal depression

2002-10-13 Thread Carol Thorogood
a couple of thousand women who are prepared to eat their placentas and then match them with a couple of thousand who don't.  It all sounds too hard to me!  Anyway good luck and have fun. Carol Carol Thorogood Visiting Midwifery Scholar School of Nursing and Midwifery Flinders University, Ade

Re: [ozmidwifery] inverted uterus

2002-08-20 Thread Carol Thorogood
#x27;just happens'. It may occur in repeated births. It's a real pity that >a beautiful birth wasn't quite so beaut at the end. If you need more info >e-mail me privately or come and have a chat. Inverted uteruses are rare >and so you have in all likelihood seen yo

Re: [ozmidwifery] VBAC - how soon is safe?

2002-07-29 Thread Carol Thorogood
of confinement or delivery! I don't think I've got an acronynm for epidura (peraps lots of them)  Incidently nearly all 88 articles said that VBAC was Ok, rupture not common and if it did occur was less problematic than a spontaneous rupture. So much for evidence based care. Reg

Re: [ozmidwifery] Nestle and Australia Women' Weekly

2002-07-27 Thread Carol Thorogood
Dear Debbie Who is WHH. I can't remember and i think I should!!! Carol -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit <http://www.acegraphics.com.au> to subscribe or unsubscribe.

[ozmidwifery] dimensions

2002-07-16 Thread Carol Thorogood
ut Dimensions' Midwives I think that if the ABC released it for commercial purposes it might recoup a little bit of its money and then it can invest in more quality programs such as this! My peers would be very happy to 'talk' to the ABC about the sorts of issues we would lik

[ozmidwifery] dimensions

2002-07-16 Thread Carol Thorogood
t the sorts of issues we would like to see on our ABC. Carol Thorogood Carol Thorogood Visiting Midwifery Scholar School of Nursing and Midwifery Flinders University, Adelaide, 5001 Telephone: 08 8201 3924 Fax: 08 8201 3410 -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Vis

Re: [ozmidwifery] health dimensions

2002-07-16 Thread Carol Thorogood
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[ozmidwifery] home birth

2002-07-12 Thread Carol Thorogood
irth and for 'safety' reasons. Have fun and please tell us what you are finding Carol Carol Thorogood Visiting Midwifery Scholar School of Nursing and Midwifery Flinders University, Adelaide, 5001 Telephone: 08 8201 3924 Fax: 08 8201 3410 -- This mailing list is sponsored by

Re: terminology and midwifery

2002-06-10 Thread Carol Thorogood
> >Thanks Lynne. I hadn't really thought about differences in how we talk to >or probably 'at' women but if you reckon there is a difference - then yes >it does include these things. Carol -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit <htt

Re: terminology and midwifery

2002-06-10 Thread Carol Thorogood
sentences or points would be fine and comments are welcome from everyone. If you thinks its relevant put your qualifications in too ie B Mid student, midwife, prospective student, "consumer" etc etc. Thanks a million Carol -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE G

Re: VBAC Article

2002-05-28 Thread Carol Thorogood
Having skilled and competent midwifery staff who is known to the woman and available at all times seems to make a big difference in outcomes! A couple of reports show that continuity of midwifery care increases the VBAC rates. I bet the Scottish Report doesn't chat about midwifery models of care

Re: re Apgars

2002-03-06 Thread Carol Thorogood
places. The irony of it all is that most of it is quite meaningless. Carol -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit <http://www.acegraphics.com.au> to subscribe or unsubscribe.

Fwd: Re: go to this site...its outrageous

2002-02-18 Thread Carol Van Lochem
Perhaps we should all remain deathly silent if this book is ever published so they don't get their publicity. Hee Hee Carol >From: Jenni <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: ozmidwifery <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Subject: Re: go to this site...its outrageous >Date: Sa

Re: further to the 12 hour shift

2002-01-21 Thread Carol Van Lochem
Wouldn't it be great if there was a program like this in every Capital City? Regards Carol >From: "Peter & Amanda" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: "Greg Barbara Cook" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, ><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Subject: Re: further

KEMH Inquiry

2001-12-23 Thread Carol Thorogood
came out for the Inquiry to make some really positive recommendations and they haven't 'disappeared'. It can only get better and hopefully KEMH and WA can move forward to a very bright future! Carol -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit <http://www.acegraphics.com.au> to subscribe or unsubscribe.

Fwd: Third stage

2001-11-12 Thread Carol Van Lochem
Waited 3 hours once. All was well. Regards Carol >From: "Sally Westbury" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: "ozmidwifery" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Subject: Third stage >Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2001 19:42:19 +1100 > >How long is the longest people have waited pati

Re: KYM VBAC

2001-09-29 Thread Carol Van Lochem
journey. Regards Carol >From: "Dean & Jo Bainbridge" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Subject: KYM VBAC >Date: Sat, 29 Sep 2001 21:11:20 +0930 > >Could some one tell me what KYM VBAC means? >cheers >Jo Bainbridge >founding member CA

Midwife Job Satisfation

2001-09-28 Thread Carol Van Lochem
working on the program. Rather than reinventing the wheel, we thought we would cast about first for any surveys, questionaires etc. that may have already been created. Regards to all Carol _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at

paper again

2001-09-14 Thread Carol Thorogood
7; (I just love that phrase) Lynne and Chris Grose telling the world what midwives really do and what it is to have their 'own' midwife. PS Jenny Do you want my 15 minute slot at the conference, I think we follow each other . You can speak for me - we'd probably say much the same

Re:

2001-09-04 Thread Carol Thorogood
n and their families think about birthing or the benefit of full breast feeding for twelve months on child and adolescent health. You can't cost these! Carol  

Re: a good read

2001-09-04 Thread Carol Thorogood
badly, to be an outcast from society, homeless and starving and to have to bear just pain with so little hope. But they do with what seems to be so little anger and resentment about the terrible unfairness of life. There we go I'm crying again. Carol -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE G

Re: centralised EFM.

2001-08-07 Thread Carol Thorogood
the fetal monitors are linked up. Apparently the monitor 'reads' the EFM and the screen goes red if the trace goes off. The mid students and I have done literature searches and can't find anything about its efficacy. Help, please. Carol PS That's a loverly mat coalition website

revolutionary stuff

1999-09-14 Thread Carol Thorogood
those that think it shouldn't happen and placate those who think that  it isn't happening fast enough.   Please let's give them a go - If it doesn't work then up go the revolutionary banners!. Yoo hoo Vanessa are you there? You have my support.   Carol    

Re: Senate Inquiry VERY IMPORTANT

1999-09-08 Thread Carol Thorogood
purchasing' services ie births from the Department. Carol -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit <http://www.acegraphics.com.au> to subscribe or unsubscribe.

Re: Senate Inquiry VERY IMPORTANT

1999-09-08 Thread Carol Thorogood
unpleasant. By the way submissions are the property of the Senate and can't be published. We can only comment on what is open to the public. Thanks to those who gave up their time to listen and be supportive afterwards! Carol -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit <http://www.acegraphics.com.au> to subscribe or unsubscribe.

incontinence

1999-09-07 Thread Carol Thorogood
developing cholecystitis when they became fair fat and forty! He then became so rushed for time the interview was terminated fairly quickly.   Golly, I've just realised what I've done - the cholecystectomy rate is gonna double!   Carol    

Senate

1999-09-07 Thread Carol Thorogood
ast feeding rates ie they give up. Has anyone got any firm evidence that this is so?   Carol    

more thoughts

1999-08-28 Thread Carol Thorogood
27;m sorry. Carol 

Re: indigenous birthing

1999-08-28 Thread Carol Thorogood
Kalgoorlie hospital probably has it 'more together' than any other hospital I know - hi Raelene, Jo et al. The famous NTP (ask the Kalgoorlie people) project is a wonderful model but has no intrapartum care. Good luck please keep us informed I'm so interested in what you are doing. Carol

let's get off the round about

1999-08-17 Thread Carol Thorogood
our elected members represent the members' views. And there is only one way to do that - tell 'em, cause they may not know.   Now I'm going back into hibernation! Carol

SA ABSP

1999-08-10 Thread Carol Thorogood
Hi all Does anyone have the evaluation or know of anyone who is familiar with the ABSP funded South Australian Dale Street project in Phase One? The contacts I have seem to have faded into the ether. carol

I'm home

1999-08-10 Thread Carol Thorogood
rth data Jane Allnutt and her colleague  have some good figures on NSW homebirths [EMAIL PROTECTED]. Guess what it shows that on the face of it Homebirth is safe for 'low risk' women (whoever low risk women are )!!!   Carol

funny I think

1999-07-27 Thread Carol Thorogood
    Dear all Try it   http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Acres/3072/camera1.html>>Carol 

senate committee

1999-07-16 Thread Carol Thorogood
ng a swiftie.  Well that's a relief I'd hate to think that 500 scientists didn't know the difference between a gravel pit and old growth karri and jarrah forests.   Carol

Fw: senate select committee

1999-07-13 Thread Carol Thorogood
low risk pregnancies . >b.. Shared care between GPs and midwives with the midwife having the = >lead role in low-risk deliveries should be practised more widely in WA. = >This model facilitates continuity of care and reflects mutual = >recognition of the skills of both midwives and

senate committee

1999-07-13 Thread Carol Thorogood
-risk deliveries should be practised more widely in WA. This model facilitates continuity of care and reflects mutual recognition of the skills of both midwives and GP obstetricians in the provision of maternity services. Carol

senate

1999-07-06 Thread Carol Thorogood
as produced in a monastery with recordings of  2-16th Century hymns but with saxophones improvising. The ensemble never knows what the two saxes are going to do!  So the music is one off never to be reproduced again. I think this is my version of spirituality but I have no idea what it means.   Carol

Re: senate inquiry

1999-07-04 Thread Carol Thorogood
ng Senate Hearings I'm not at all sure that I wanna play those games. A pox on all their Houses! Do you think we should make a submission?? it's sort of addictive - like one more time. Anne will the ACMI be responding to it? I hope so! Carol -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE G