Hi Raelene,
Is Simone Elston still working there? If so say Hi for me.
Megan.
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From: George, Raelene [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au
Sent: Sunday, February 04, 2007 1:46 PM
Subject: [ozmidwifery] co-sleeping
Hi All,
Thanks to everyone who
what a lovely memory
well worth the squashed hips
Pinky
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From: Cheryl LHK [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au
Sent: Wednesday, January 24, 2007 11:46 AM
Subject: RE: [ozmidwifery] co-sleeping
Well, I co-slept with the kids (4,6,8) last night
Oh I agree totally, it seems so hard, so often back here in the East. Cath
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From: Michelle Windsor
To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au
Sent: Wednesday, January 24, 2007 11:56 AM
Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] co-sleeping
There's no doubt that co-sleeping
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To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au
Sent: Monday, January 22, 2007 1:48 PM
Subject: RE: [ozmidwifery] co-sleeping
Just general thoughts...not directed personally at you Raelene...
A Few years ago when I had my daughter at mater mothers in Brisbane, some
of
the midwives that cared for us actually encouraged
Co-slept with both my girls, but when I was pregnant with
no2 I thought it would be a good idea to try my then 4 year
old in her own bed, as I couldnt imagine where we would all
fit if there were '4 in the bed'. 3 nights of total trauma
but the thing that really convinced me was the 4 year old
Hi all,
We have a co-sleeping policy where I work so women who haven't got lots of
pain relief on board are encouraged to cuddle up with their babies.
I have long thought that we get a glimse of the race memory of co-sleeping
when we have a cat or dog on the bed and we often dont move or feel
Hi Raelene,
We have a policy that allows co-sleeping.We had more concerns about
babies falling out of bed(did actually happen) rather than them being
smothered by mums so our policy just makes sure the bed rail is up on
which ever side of mum the baby is sleeping with a pillow against the
bed
off the bed to make it. I was always afraid a baby would end up in
the linen skip one day
Helen
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From: Lyle Burgoyne [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au
Sent: Wednesday, January 24, 2007 1:22 AM
Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] co-sleeping
Hi
-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Helen and Graham
Sent: Wednesday, January 24, 2007 7:36 AM
To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au
Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] co-sleeping
This story reminds me of my time working in Gove in the Northern Territory.
The aboriginal women
-mychild.com
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From: Kelly Zantey [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au
Sent: Wednesday, January 24, 2007 8:39 AM
Subject: RE: [ozmidwifery] co-sleeping
If it wasn't for Pinky I wouldn't have co-slept with my two! I was very
much
a mainstream girl, expecting
years until Morgan wants to sleep in her own bed,
just like her big sister did eventually.
Melanie
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From: Kelly Zantey [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au
Sent: Wednesday, January 24, 2007 8:39 AM
Subject: RE: [ozmidwifery] co-sleeping
If it wasn't
Well, I co-slept with the kids (4,6,8) last night on the trampoline with the
labrador snuffling underneath whilst we watching the stars come out and the
comet on the south skyline as well. They are ratty today, my hips ache like
anything, but the 8 yr old is SO happy - that's what memories
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To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au
Sent: Wednesday, 24 January, 2007 6:36:19 AM
Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] co-sleeping
This story reminds me of my time working in Gove in the Northern Territory.
The aboriginal women on the ward would co-sleep from day 1 and also leave
their babies in their beds
and Graham [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au
Sent: Wednesday, 24 January, 2007 6:36:19 AM
Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] co-sleeping
This story reminds me of my time working in Gove in the Northern Territory.
The aboriginal women on the ward would co-sleep from day 1
Hi Raelene
My husband and I Co-slept and continue to do so with our two children.
Infact when they are not sleeping with us they are sleeping together in one
of their beds (super cute).
My husband and I never worried about smothering them and I found it somewhat
troubling that hospital
- perth
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From: diane [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au
Sent: Monday, January 22, 2007 3:18 PM
Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] co-sleeping
I found this one too...
http://www.babybunk.com/whatis.htm
Di
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From: Kristi Kemp [EMAIL
, 2007 8:53 PM
Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] co-sleeping
I am also in favour for at least putting the case to new parents for
co-sleeping... I hear so often in my classes - in the coffee breaks - that
the new mums are terrified of setting up bad habits and have heard
so-and-so
had made that mistake
There is heaps of info out there in cyberspace on co-sleeping.
To add to your list - look up any information by Dr James McKenna. He is
from US or Canada and spoke at an ABA conference in Hobart in 2005. He was
fantastic!
I grew up in Asia (parents worked there from when I was a baby) and the
We use these in England they are called clip on cots. not sure where to get
them from but can try to find out for you. We have them on all beds to
promote breastfeeding.
Shelly
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From: George, Raelene [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au
Sent:
Maybe I am alone in this but having coslept with our first and used a
cot for #2 I found the opposite to be true - I get so much better
quality sleep without the baby in bed with me that it is definitely
worthwhile getting up even three times a night to feed her and then
put her back in
of energy and a sleep deprived Mum is not
always so pretty...
cheers
Megan
_
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jo Bourne
Sent: Tuesday, 23 January 2007 8:44 AM
To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au
Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] co-sleeping
Maybe I am alone
is not a lemon! -
Ina May Gaskin
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From: michelle gascoigne [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au
Sent: Tuesday, January 23, 2007 4:47 AM
Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] co-sleeping
We use these in England they are called clip on cots. not sure where to
get them
Of Stephen
Felicity
Sent: Tuesday, 23 January 2007 9:15 AM
To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au
Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] co-sleeping
Sounds like that would be a really handy product! In their absence, though,
there's always the good old side-car cot (remove side from cot, tie the cot
to the side
Hi All,
I'm new to the list. Raelene you might like to look into the Arm's Reach
Co-Sleeper. I don't think they are available in Australia, need to be
ordered from the US. Here is a link to their site http://armsreach.com/
Cheers,
Jennifer
George, Raelene wrote:
Hi everyone,
I need some
Hi Raelene,
Here are just a few websites I found re: co-sleeping cots...hope this helps!
http://www.babydelight.com/snuggle_nest.html - The Snuggle Nest
http://armsreach.com/ - Bassinettes that attach to the side of the bed for
baby
http://www.thefirstyears.com - On this page, go down to the
Just general thoughts...not directed personally at you Raelene...
A Few years ago when I had my daughter at mater mothers in Brisbane, some of
the midwives that cared for us actually encouraged my daughter sleep beside
me. We were having breastfeeding challenges (to say the least) and were
: Monday, January 22, 2007 2:48 PM
Subject: RE: [ozmidwifery] co-sleeping
Just general thoughts...not directed personally at you Raelene...
A Few years ago when I had my daughter at mater mothers in Brisbane, some
of
the midwives that cared for us actually encouraged my daughter sleep
beside
me
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To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au
Subject: RE: [ozmidwifery] co-sleeping
Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2007 13:48:51 +1000
Just general thoughts...not directed personally at you Raelene...
A Few years ago when I had my daughter at mater mothers in Brisbane, some
I don't have a contact for you Raelene, but I congratulate you again on your
progressiveness, and once again not allowing size or remoteness be an
excuse for developing Women and Baby centred policies.
For those who don't already know - Kalgoorlie is a great place for midwives
to do a stint
I found this one too...
http://www.babybunk.com/whatis.htm
Di
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From: Kristi Kemp [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au
Sent: Monday, January 22, 2007 1:39 PM
Subject: RE: [ozmidwifery] co-sleeping
Hi Raelene,
Here are just a few websites I found
Here is a link to the sample policy from the UK
http://www.babyfriendly.org.uk/pdfs/bedsharingpolicy.pdf
Cheers,
Di
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From: George, Raelene [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au
Sent: Monday, January 22, 2007 12:54 PM
Subject: [ozmidwifery] co-sleeping
What about this one designed for hospital beds
http://www.bristolmaid.com/prodtype.asp?PT_ID=s200strPageHistory=cat
cheers
Di
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From: George, Raelene [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au
Sent: Monday, January 22, 2007 12:54 PM
Subject: [ozmidwifery]
30, 2006 5:46
PM
Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] co sleeping
with a 7 yo
My usual response to "But
what if he never leaves your bed???" is to say that I'm sure he will by the
time he's sexually active. And if not, at least I'll know who he's with. ;
)
That rais
Our son is 8 and has only just graduated onto a
mattress on the floor next to our bed. This was with much coaxing and he
still tries to convince us to let him get in with us but seems to gradually be
accepting the idea. Goes to sleep with all lights on if he goes to bed
before us.
Helen
Title: Message
My babies'' didn't sleep with me very much, but
as teenagers they always seem to be in my bed!! cheers fiona
Hi Pauline,
This response is coming from a mother perspective rather
than a mid perspective, but I thought I'd contribute anyway. My nearly
seven year old happily co-slept with us until she was getting kicked off the
bedby her younger siblings...and her sisters now fill the bed and we
My husband used to get into bed with his mum until he was 8 and he is one of the most non-violent person I know, and has a wonderful relationship with his mother to boot. In addition, my little brother was the same.
Kylie Carberry Freelance Journalist p: +61 2 42970115 m: +61 2 418220638 f: +61 2
Pauline,
Bollocks to your ex MIL - pity "ex" doesnt mean
"Exit"!
Recently, as I
searched for some long term evidence of the benefits of parent-infant
co-sleeping, I came across a study of college age subjects which found that
males who had co-slept with their parents between birth and
Ask her for the study!!! I bet it is like when you ask some obs for the research of stuff they do - they can't show you cos it doesn't exist!!! Or else the study is so flawed that the results are cr*p anyway!!!
:-)
Katrina
who is off to bed after night duty so sorry if this is a little curt!!!
What crap : ) Teaching
children about emotional closeness makes them violent? Certain lack of logic
there!
Try this anyway: (Maybe she'd
like a copy to read ; ) )
http://www.attachmentparenting.org/artbenefitscosleep.shtml
Long-term
Benefits
Higher self-esteem. Boys who
coslept with
Title: Message
Pinky
said:
Not sure how
to interpret this in light of my own kids experience now they are college age
and beyond - that would be too much information! But it seems that they
are most likely sleeping with somebody other than
me!
Ha Ha Ha! you do make me laugh
Pinky!!! :o)
i s enjoyed reading this ..and reminds me of how i struggled
with all the opposing advice.my experiences lead me to observe that
historically it seems that things tend to move from one extreme to another ,
and very rarely balanced in the middle...sadly particularly
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From:
Kylie Carberry
To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au
Sent: Friday, January 06, 2006 11:23
AM
Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Co
sleeping
"There are always gonna be parents that have no interest in having
theirchild share a bed with
January 06, 2006 11:23 AM
Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Co sleeping
"There are always gonna be parents that have no interest in having theirchild share a bed with them and expect them to sleep a minimum of 8 hours ina row each night"
Just something on this comment...I have had four children
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From:
Kylie Carberry
To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au
Sent: Friday, January 06, 2006 9:53
AM
Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Co
sleeping
"There are always gonna be parents that have no interest in having
theirchild share a bed with them and expect them to
I think this is a bigger deal in the US than here in Australia.I never
got anything like the reactions these women are describing when I had my
first child 14 years ago. In fact, a couple of the midwives where I birthed
my daughter matter of factly told me I should put her in the bed with me!
"There are always gonna be parents that have no interest in having theirchild share a bed with them and expect them to sleep a minimum of 8 hours ina row each night"
Just something on this comment...I have had four children and was never really comfortable sharing a bed with my babies. I tried
I think it really depends on personalities and sleep styles too though. We
still cosleep with our 3.5 yr old and despite every mattress arrangement we
have tried it guarantees me a bad night sleep. If Isabelle just wanted to be
near by then what you are suggesting would rock, but she sleeps
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Sent: Friday, October 28, 2005 11:07 AM
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I think it really depends on personalities and sleep styles too though. We
still cosleep with our 3.5 yr old and despite every mattress arrangement we
have tried
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Sent: Tuesday, March 23, 2004 7:00 AM
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You know Belinda, I think that was my parents' approach to me sleeping
with
them. I have a fond memory of their bed being a welcoming place up until I
was about 2 or 3 yrs then I have
yep - it works!! but dont leave it where they can
get it- we had a cat smeared in vaseline once!! :)
pinky
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From:
Julie
Garratt
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, March 22, 2004 12:52
PM
Subject: RE: [ozmidwifery] Co-sleeping
and older
I do remember saying help yourself Im asleep (which did seem to offend
but
I was too tired to give a damn on that particular occasion). but I never
found breastfeeding to inhibit desire or lubrication etc. I have found
myself the odd one out in discussions which tend to blame breastfeeding
22, 2004 11:39 PM
Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] co-sleeping
I do remember saying help yourself Im asleep (which did seem to offend
but
I was too tired to give a damn on that particular occasion). but I never
found breastfeeding to inhibit desire or lubrication etc. I have found
myself
Hi Pinky: That is too cruel!!
Hah!
marilyn
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From: Pinky McKay [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, March 21, 2004 7:48 PM
Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] co-sleeping
Hi Marilyn,
I first discovered breastfeeding was supposed to inhibit sex drive at a
la
ies
would be appreciated.
I must admit that I am not looking forward to that
stage.
thanks,
megan.
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From:
Pinky McKay
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, March 22, 2004 12:11
PM
Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Co-sleeping
and older children
yep
or stories would be appreciated.
I must admit that I am not looking forward to that stage.
thanks,
megan.
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From: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Pinky McKay
To: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, March 22, 2004 12:11 PM
Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Co-sleeping
I loved reading your story Helen - thank you for
sharingyour experience.
I wonder how our sex life would be by now if we
didn't have any children? Would we be less zealous because of familiarity, our
age or pure comfort. my guess with my husband and I - is that our sex life
is
10:45
PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery]
Co-sleeping and older children
I loved reading your story Helen -
thank you for sharingyour experience.
I wonder how our sex life would be
by now if we didn't have any children? Would we be less zealous because of
familiarity
You know Belinda, I think that was my parents' approach to me sleeping with
them. I have a fond memory of their bed being a welcoming place up until I
was about 2 or 3 yrs then I have a memory of being cramped, hot, and itchy
when in there...I soon preferred my own bed though would go in for
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Co-sleeping and older children
I loved reading your story Helen - thank you for
sharingyour experience.
I wonder how our sex life
a week work for Maternity Coalition!!
Justine
Mum to Ruby 4.5, Clancy 3, William 20 months and Tobias 23 days
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From: Marilyn Kleidon [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, March 23, 2004 7:00 AM
Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] co-sleeping
You know Belinda
Thanks for sharing that article Claire. It is good to keep a world view
of the situation isn't it? More and more often it seems that our
contemporary Western ideas are the odd ones out on debates about
co-sleeping/breastfeeding etc.
Helen Cahill
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From: Rob and
10, 2003 2:59 PM
Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] co-sleeping
Thanks for sharing that article Claire. It is good to keep a world view
of the situation isn't it? More and more often it seems that our
contemporary Western ideas are the odd ones out on debates about
co-sleeping/breastfeeding etc
We
watched the show, not too bad for ACA, but I don't think a few mins really does
it any justice. Most think your mad, and its not about suffication of baby, more
about the old "rod for yourback" syndrome. I got the best wakeup hug this
morning form my bed buddy, a "rod" I have gotten very
unihousemate.
Pinky
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From:
Larry
Megan
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, September 02, 2003 11:13
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sleeping!!!
We
watched the show, not too bad for ACA, but I don't think a few mins really
Hi Kathy, I have co-slept with all of my
children on returning to work (I used to work mainly night shift with my
2nd third) my husband coped quite well with EBM in the fridge
freezer. My problem was that none of my previous 3 children ever really
took to the bottle even with EBM in it.
Dogs in bed!
To my mothers shock - in the early hour of the morning my
sisters dog climbed up onto her bed and gave birth to her first pup.
She had been in the bathroom with a whelping box and nothing had happened
- someone wentinto the room, thedog
Title: Message
I
remember seeing statistics that said that 75% of pet owners slept with their
animals in their beds..fantastic really when you consider the outrage of the
general public to co sleepng with a baby!
Cheers
Tina
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Title: Message
I have
co-slept with my new bub since the day he was born. No one in the hospital
complained about me feeding bub in bed or snuggling up for sleep and it was a
tiny little bed too! I just tucked him in and made sure he wouldn't fall out. In
our bed we often have the baby, our
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