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On 20 Jan 2017 07:40, "'tembelani xundu' via Pan Africanist Youth Congress"
wrote:
> Can I get your number Poqo. You can sms it or whatsupp it to me
> 0741531525/0731531525
>
>
>
> On Thursday, January 5, 2017 2:26 PM, sipho mnguni <
>
Can I get your number Poqo. You can sms it or whatsupp it to me
0741531525/0731531525
On Thursday, January 5, 2017 2:26 PM, sipho mnguni
wrote:
people will come and go but the PAC will remain.therefore i urge the members
to remain focus to the cause and
Izwe lethu! Brother Buntu
On 16 Sep 2016 09:13, "BabaBuntu" wrote:
> *M'Afrika,*
>
> eBukhosini Solutions is inviting all Afrikan Brothers to
>
> *MEN ON THE MOUNTAIN*
>
> *1st October (all day)*
>
> *Johannesburg, Gauteng*
>
>
> See FB link here:
APLA National Imbizo
The APLA National Imbizo will be held on:
Date: 01 October 2016
Place: Bloemfontein
Venue: is available and will be announced in due course.
Those who wish to make accommodation arrangements, please make sure that
you make bookings in Bloemfontein Central, not far from
Comrade Nkrumah
Meeting is where issues are discussed and resolved.
The point still stands. There are two PAC NEC structures by default as we
speak. we cannot deny that. They are product of PAC "conference" whether
the status of those conferences is debatable, or not. That is the reason
Cde Chargein
A provincial unity meeting is planned for the October 2015, I encourage you
attend provincial meetings and also there will be Vaal Regional meeting
somewhere in October.
Shango lashu
Nkrumah
On 14 Sep 2016 18:01, "Nkrumah Raymond Kgagudi" wrote:
> Cde
The problem is: How do you dissolve the two contested PAC NEC structures
not in a conference / congress, the highest decision-making bodies of the
Party, as per the PAC Constitution? How do you convene the properly
constituted PAC National Conference / Congress in line with the PAC
Constitution?
Comrade Chargein
The two approaches are contradictory both can unfold simultaneously leading
to a PAC UNITY National Conference, that is, Bottom-up and Dissolution of
parallel NEC's the formation of a Joint Committee then PAC National Unity
Conference.
Shango lashu
Nkrumah
On 14 Sep 2016 09:40,
Cde Chargein
Conference convened by who, when there are parallel NEC's?
Which Constitution become applicable to convene such a conference since
Mbinda-Moloto leadership faction follows it's own adopted in 2015 while
others follow GaMatlala 2000 Constitution?
Will PAM accede to follow PAC
Comrade Nkrumah
i made my proposal in the document i drafted. I believe a special
unity conference or congress should be convened to do wholistic
introspextion and maximum self-criticism and ceiticism as a party,
learn lessons from our successes and failures, take drastic
resolutions to uproot
Cde Chargein
Point taken, then what's your proposal to defactionalise and forge
principled unity?
Regards
Nkrumah
On 13 Sep 2016 13:34, "Chargein Mabaso" wrote:
> Comrade Nkrumah
>
> Sorry, I meant Bottom-up approach.
>
> The explanation you gave do not assist
>
>
> On
Comrade Nkrumah
Sorry, I meant Bottom-up approach.
The explanation you gave do not assist
On 13 September 2016 at 12:07, Nkrumah Raymond Kgagudi
wrote:
> Cde Chargin
>
> I expressed and explained bottom-up approach not a top-up approach,
>
> Top-up approach is when
Cde Chargin
I expressed and explained bottom-up approach not a top-up approach,
Top-up approach is when members converged for the first time for an unity
conference hoping to resolve leadership factions in two days (48 hours) and
also generate a PoA. Those who succeeds to attend a conference may
Comrade Nkrumah
Does it mean your Top-up approach cannot address a typical case prevailing
in the Vaal which is currently happening in the Party throughout the
country. I am still waiting for your response on this issue and the reason
for holding two rallies in one province and still claim unity
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Cde Chargein
I requested that you define and describe factionalism and factions for us,
this will assist to move from the same wavelength.
There are members who resolved not to attend any event and meetings which
furthers factionalism. These are members keen to forge unity and are
working with
Comrade Nkrumah
Theory is only good if it can address praxtical problems. You did
explain how will your Bottom-up approach can solve current dilema in
the Vaal. You did expolain why in Gaung there are two PAC rallIes
whenever the Party commemorates important days in its calender if your
apporoach
Cde Chargein
We run the risk to label everything and effort as a faction, please 1.
define and describe a faction.
Secondly, it's evident we disagree on the approach to forge principled
unity. We advocate a Bottom-up approach which has proven itself to be most
effective to defactionalise,
Comrade Nkrumah
The Top-up approach sounds good in theory but not in practice. The Marxist
philosophy of dialectical materialism *“…emphasizes the dependence of
theory on practice, emphasizes that theory is based on practice and in turn
serves practice.”* [*Mao Tse Tung on Theory and
Comrade Charge-in
Factionalism within the party which has exhibited itself in many ills such
as the parallel National Leadership structures including other party
structures, is a manifestation of both the ideo-political and organisation
degeneration, primarily degeneration of the branches and
Cde Charge in
Thanks for the document which I perused, your critique of Top Down and
Bottom Up strategies fails to recognise the solutions presented or arising
from each strategy and also that both strategies are capable to converge as
long as there the two strategies are not executed from an
MAfrika, Good day.
The current political developments in our country at the moment have open a
new opportunity for Pan Africanists to go back to the drawing board and do
some serious introspection. The current voter apathy, poor PAC/PAM
performance and the politics of coalitions after the recent
PASMA as a PAC Component structure continues to lead students mass
agitation in regard to fees must fall.
Nkrumah
On 15 August 2016 at 12:55, Mphiri Masoga wrote:
> Good Morning MaAfrika
>
> What happened to PASMA AND ARM?
>
> Regards,
>
> *electronically send no signed -
lton Mphethi; Michael
>>> Muendane;
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>>> paccapemetro; Mapula Nkoana; Mangaliso Mdhlela;
>>> joseph.maqhe
Comrade Eddie.
Please nind your language when you talk to another comrades-in-arms.
There is neither absolute honest and absolute truth in what is
happening in the Pan Africanist fold. Your deeds do not serve PAC
interest but those of your faction and enenies, consciously or
uncomsciously. We are
because of their illegal status.
>
> It's time president Mugabe handed the baton to a trusted comrade who would
> run the mile not because of him having read a previously delivered speech
> but of his dotage seen by us ‘his admirers’ and I repeat ‘HIS ADMIRERS.’
>
>
>
> From: p
Comrade Linda, any ideas on who should succeed Oldman RG Mugabe and his peers
in ZANU- PF leadership? I think though ZANU-PF is keenly aware of the
succession matter and is probably fairly prepared for the inevitable departure
of Mugabe and his peers.
> Subject: Re: [PAYCO] Time to c
y view is that the media has made sure to sensationalize
> this issue as they always do.
>
>
>> Date: Fri, 18 Sep 2015 11:13:28 +0200
>> Subject: Re: [PAYCO] Time to call it quits for my Pres.
>> From: chargein...@gmail.com
>> To: payco@googlegroups.com
>
the leader? I think not, instead my view is that
the media has made sure to sensationalize this issue as they always do.
> Date: Fri, 18 Sep 2015 11:13:28 +0200
> Subject: Re: [PAYCO] Time to call it quits for my Pres.
> From: chargein...@gmail.com
> To: payco@goog
It was indeed the most embarrassing moment. Succession has never been this
urgent. The Old Man has played his part, let him hand over the baton.
Sent via my BlackBerry from Vodacom - let your email find you!
-Original Message-
From: Sebenzile Mlaza
Sender:
It is not as easy as like that for him, comrade. If Mugabe goes, there
will be political upheaval in Zimbabwe. It will mean regime change.
His Inner Circle will have to go too. That will be costly. It is the
one forcing him to remain in power. It's a political marriage unti
death. .even if he
Evening Cde Mawethu,
Judging by the brain size of so-called Homo Naledi (this newly discovered
allege distant relative of ours), it is quite obvious that Homo sapiens (us)
are not directly descended from that species. Read this cognitively, some
racist academics simply want to infer one
Masoga,
Brother, the rest of africa is reacting!
Will south Africa be comfortable again in isolation?
Right now, none of South African citizens can dare say, in a foreign country,
that they are south African, the pride is gone and violence is knocking at your
door.
And all these because
Noted
-Original Message-
From: Mphiri Masoga mphi...@gmail.com
Sent: 2015-04-20 04:01 PM
To: payco@googlegroups.com payco@googlegroups.com
Subject: [PAYCO] Fwd: PAC MARCHES COUNTRYWIDE FOR RELEASE OF ITS APLA COMRADES
Regards,
electronically signed
Mphiri Masoga
SACWU
T
From: payco@googlegroups.com [mailto:payco@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of matome
Sent: 01 February 2015 10:45 AM
To: payco@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [PAYCO] Quo Vadis PAC
Comrade Sebenzile,
I hope you are well my dearest Friend and Comrade.
Would you allow me to take off by 'attacking' you
spring of popular creativity” Lenin
Shango lashu
Nkrumah
From: payco@googlegroups.com [mailto:payco@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of matome
Sent: 01 February 2015 10:45 AM
To: payco@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [PAYCO] Quo Vadis PAC
Comrade Sebenzile,
I hope you are well my dearest Friend
Revolutionary greetings cry Izwe Lethu
This is there most progressive important statement from comrade Sebenzile
you have cross the breach before many of us to see what will the future
hold when comrades think of the 20 years in vain of sacrifice building an
organisation without making any
Revolutionary greetings cry Izwe Lethu
This is there most progressive important statement from comrade Sebenzile
you have cross the breach before many of us to see what will the future
hold when comrades think of the 20 years in vain of sacrifice building an
organisation without making any
Izwe lethu M’Afrika Mdu
The question is what has been achieved thus far in the PAC, noting that every
little work undertaken on ground to revive, re-organise and attempt to build a
mass based political character for and in the PAC, such efforts are nullified
by persisting internal feuding
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Subject: Re: [PAYCO] SAd news
Izwe lethu MaÁfrika amahle. Ndicela ilift kwabayayo from Gauteng.
On 12 November 2014 11:26, chargein...@gmail.com wrote:
Comrades,
The funeral of comrade Clarence Mayekiso (Hadebe) will be held at the Roman
Catholic Church in town, Port Shepstone
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To: payco payco@googlegroups.com
Date: Thursday, November 13, 2014 7:45:57 AM GMT+0200
Subject: Re: [PAYCO] SAd news
Izwe lethu MaÁfrika amahle. Ndicela ilift kwabayayo from Gauteng.
On 12 November 2014 11:26, chargein...@gmail.com wrote:
Comrades,
The funeral of comrade Clarence
and millitarisation.
Izwe Lethu
Matome Mashao
Sent from my BlackBerry®
-Original Message-
From: Mphiri Masoga mphi...@gmail.com
Sender: payco@googlegroups.com
Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2014 09:59:02
To: payco@googlegroups.compayco@googlegroups.com
Reply-To: payco@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [PAYCO
@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of
Mphiri Masoga
Sent: 27 October 2014 11:59 AM
To: payco@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [PAYCO] Revolutionary Pan Africanist Programme
Good Morning Linda
Who are the former Presidents who attended the meeting where were the current
Presidents and what is the Status
Raymond Kgaudi
-Original Message-
From: payco@googlegroups.com [mailto:payco@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of percy
motswaledi
Sent: 27 October 2014 03:09 PM
To: payco@googlegroups.com; Mphiri Masoga
Subject: Re: [PAYCO] Revolutionary Pan Africanist Programme
Good Day MoAfrika Linda
its
find you!
-Original Message-
From: Mphiri Masoga mphi...@gmail.com
Sender: payco@googlegroups.com
Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2014 09:59:02
To: payco@googlegroups.compayco@googlegroups.com
Reply-To: payco@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [PAYCO] Revolutionary Pan Africanist Programme
Good Morning
; Mphiri Masoga
Subject: Re: [PAYCO] Revolutionary Pan Africanist Programme
Good Day MoAfrika Linda
its Lion of Azania Here
Mr Mphiri Masoga is attacking you in public Platform and with Emmotions i
want us to enterogate his Emotions because they may have different meaning
and this time i am sure
Subject: Re: [PAYCO] Revolutionary Pan Africanist Programme
On Mon, 27 Oct 2014 15:29:22 +0200 Nkrumah Raymond Kgagudi
nrkgag...@gmail.com wrote
M'Afrika Percy
In as much one wishes to answer your question, the failure to answer is
carried within your own question because of the following
Comrades Comrade Ray what Apa communicated it is a true reflection of the
discussions held. That is why already there is a fabrication about the meeting
outcome because the effect of that unity and its expansion thereof as you put
it will go a long way in assisting stabilising the party. I also
Moaforika Vusie
You are correct on one issue, as PAC members we need a unifying inclusive
conference, not this political gimmicks. In less than three years PAC had
three Presidents and three Deputy Presidents as follows:
2012 July Butterworth Congress: Cde Letlapa Mphahlele elected as President
MoAfrika Vusie
You are simply playfull and enjoy this party going up and down with no
programme. There is nothing genuine and noble to what you are saying. You are
behaving like someone who is idling in politics so anyone can make you say and
do what he wishes.
On Sunday, September 28,
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Subject: Re: [PAYCO] Statement of Position - Program of Action
Cde Matome,
I wish to express my gratitude to the continous rationale manner you approach
challenges facing our
Revolutionary Greetings,
The document eloquently articulates the historic tasks which must embody the
revolutionary programme of our times.
Executed to the letter and spirit embodied therein, the struggle for the
liberation of the African working class in particular and humanity in general
: chargein...@gmail.com
Sender: payco@googlegroups.com
Date: Sun, 14 Sep 2014 14:28:31
To: payco@googlegroups.com
Reply-To: payco@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [PAYCO] coup is the only solution for PAC
Comrade Gift
My first input on this discussion was that to rescue PAC from current maximum
Cde Matome,
I wish to express my gratitude to the continous rationale manner you approach
challenges facing our party and our revolutionary task. Indeed I agree with you
that we have to make a choice between Revolting or conforming to the system.
Making such a choice is critical to know who
Comrades,
Former US President, John F Kennedy rightly said, Those who make nonviolent
revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable . His powerful
advice was not taken serious by his successors up to Obama. In effect, they
defied him. When Gaddafi and Assad in Libya and Syria,
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Subject: RE: [PAYCO] FW
Comrade Gift
My first input on this discussion was that to rescue PAC from current maximum
infiltration is to take extraordinary actions unfortunately at a human cost. I
agree with you totally in your sentiments. PAC has been hijacked from us at gun
point. We cannot get it back to us without a
The enemy is prepared even to bomb genuine PAC members who will win the fight
at the end group with Hamas, Zanu-PF, ISIS, etc. Nato may here already to deal
with genuine PAC members. But, the kind of action
--
Sent from my Nokia phone
--Original message--
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Subject: RE: [PAYCO] FW: attack on party annual conference
There is one stubborn truth that most people do
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Subject: RE: [PAYCO] FW: attack on party annual conference
Shango lashu M’Afrika
PAC branches and members should not harbour any illusions, Birchwood 2013
National Conference organised by the same
'
Subject: RE: [PAYCO] FW: attack on party annual conference
M'Afrika Nkrumah, with due respect son of the soil, I would not like us to
engage in rhetoric. All I was responding to are your unfounded sweeping
statements based on conjecture. You know nothing or very little about what is
happening
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Subject: Re: [PAYCO] FW: attack on party annual conference
Good Morning M'Afrika Mashilo
Clearly you have made your decision to Boycott the conference so you
*Subject: *RE: [PAYCO] FW: attack on party annual conference
Shango lashu M’Afrika
PAC branches and members should not harbour any illusions, *Birchwood
2013 National Conference* organised by the same NEC comrades organising
the *Bloemfontein 2014 National Conference*, *has dismally failed
!
On Tue, 9/9/14, Nkrumah Raymond KGAGUDI nrkgag...@gmail.com wrote:
Subject: Re: [PAYCO] FW: attack on party annual conference
To: mbuyigan...@yahoo.com, mnd...@yahoo.com, payco@googlegroups.com
Cc: kutie.thondl...@gmail.com, sndam...@pac-cape.org.za, mrfihl...@gmail.com
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Subject: Re: [PAYCO] FW: attack on party annual conference
Greetings Cdes
We have to accept
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*Subject:* Re: [PAYCO] FW: attack on party annual conference
Cde Kutie
It is simple the enemies of the PAC are simply those who are using members
I am not a spokesperson of Moloto NEC Grouping. I am not familiar with
composition of Moloto NEC Grouping. So I am not privy to the information
that you are seeking from me.
One thing I know is that my obsessions (the decree) cannot stay in the
books of the PAC; with all its Secucratic tendencies
Izwe lethu Moaforika Xaba
And second question, why do not you start putting your efforts to unite PAC
branches and members in Gauteng first!
PAC Chairman John Nyathi Pokela when he said One of the greatest leaders of
this organisation, Nyathi Pokela, is on record as having said that if we go
to
Comrade Xaba
We have not seen any form of you being harassed, I ask you is basic and
straight forward question. Your Presidential ambitions has blurred your
judgement, nonetheless good luck!
Regards
Ndima
On Tue, Sep 9, 2014 at 6:57 AM, Sbusiso Xaba sbusiso.x...@gmail.com wrote:
It is nice
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Subject: Re: [PAYCO] FW: attack on party annual conference
Cde Kutie
-- Forwarded message --
From: Sbusiso Xaba sbusiso.x...@gmail.com
Date: Sep 9, 2014 6:22 PM
Subject: Re: [PAYCO] Re: d: Submission of Resolutions for the National
Conference
To: Tongogara Ndima ndimatongog...@gmail.com
Cc:
Nothing has blinded me, including what you call my
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Subject: Re: [PAYCO] FW: attack on party annual conference
Cde Kutie
It is simple the enemies of the PAC are simply those who are using members
for their individual purposes and to some extend in the interest of the
people
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Subject: Re: [PAYCO] FW: attack on party annual conference
Cde Kutie
It is simple the enemies of the PAC are simply those who are using members for
their individual purposes and to some extend
;
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Subject: RE: [PAYCO] Re: focused practical action
Is PAM involved in PAC matters? I do
The Disciplinary Code is a policy not Constitution or a constitutional
clause. Therefore, within the Annual National Conference competence.
The proposal is not anti democratic centralism. It in fact reinforces it.
On Sep 8, 2014 8:07 AM, chargein...@gmail.com wrote:
Comrades
Removal of Clause
Comrade Sbusiso Xaba
Does this mean, you insist those few branches in Tshwane Region are going
ahead to attend Moloto (Less than Five) NEC Members grouping Bloemfontein
September Conference. When your peers in the PAC are raising the notion
that PAC cannot afford parallel and conflicting events
Comrade Ndima
Since the unbanning of the PAC I have never come cross the PAC being in this
pathetic state of affairs especially towards congresses. Even if there were
differences in structures and NEC itself our congresses showed maturity of
members and NEC towards them. Any normal human
It is nice to hide behind high emotional loaded language. Especially, when
wanting to blackmail or intimidate. I will entertain neither emotional
blackmail nor attempted intimidation. We are not much interested in
personality cults either.
Where are these many branches, You're talking about,
;
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*Subject:* Re: [PAYCO] FW: attack on party annual
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Subject: Re: [PAYCO] RE: focused practical action
Comrades
Cdes Linda, Siya, Ndima, Fihla and others I think lets do our best to find a
way out after the further submission by Cde Raymond. For now we must reach out
to our comrades to constitutionality
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Subject: Re: [PAYCO] FW: attack on party annual
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Subject: Re: [PAYCO] RE: focused practical action
Comrades,
From my analysis on our engagements including that of Cde
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ReplyTo: payco@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [PAYCO] FW: attack on party annual conference
Morning Cde. Raymond
I think
Morning Cde. Raymond
I think it is now clear that up and above the feuding NEC you have an
individual in the form of an S.G who thinks he wilds a wisdom above all others.
By the way you are talking about a so called board room or office bound NEC
which operates somewhere in a building in
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Reply-To: payco@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [PAYCO] FW: attack on party annual conference
Morning Cde. Raymond
I think it is now clear that up and above the feuding NEC you have an
individual in the form
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Subject: RE: [PAYCO] INVITATION TO PAC NATIONAL CAUCUS - CONFERENCE/CONGRESS
M'Afrika Masoga
Why can't focus be directed towards organising inclusive Gauteng provincial
meeting to consider ways and means to unite and rebuild PAC than national
caucuses which ends up deepening internal party
'
Subject: Re: [PAYCO] INVITATION TO PAC NATIONAL CAUCUS - CONFERENCE/CONGRESS
Thank you Mo Afrika Mashilo
PAC is in a state that is unacceptable and for that reason it is caucuses of
this magnitude that will ensure that we chat way forward and March Forward.
It is a fact that we can never
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moshemahlom...@gmail.com, monyanepin...@gmail.com, mop...@pac.org.za,
mnd...@yahoo.com, po...@yahoo.com, celenjabulo...@gmail.com,
njabulo.m...@gmail.com, vu...@telkomsa.net, dumisani...@gmail.com
Subject: Re: [PAYCO] FW: attack on party annual
Subject: RE: [PAYCO] INVITATION TO PAC NATIONAL CAUCUS - CONFERENCE/CONGRESS
M’Afrika Masoga
Why can’t focus be directed towards organising inclusive Gauteng provincial
meeting to consider ways and means to unite and rebuild PAC than national
caucuses which ends up deepening internal party
...@pac.org.za; mnd...@yahoo.com;
po...@yahoo.com; celenjabulo...@gmail.com; njabulo.m...@gmail.com;
vu...@telkomsa.net; dumisani...@gmail.com
Subject: Re: [PAYCO] FW: attack on party annual conference
Cde Kutie
It is simple the enemies of the PAC are simply those who are using members
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njabulo.m...@gmail.com; vu...@telkomsa.net; dumisani...@gmail.com
*Subject:* Re: [PAYCO] FW: attack on party annual conference
Cde Kutie
It is simple the enemies of the PAC are simply those who are using members
for their individual purposes and to some extend in the interest
...@gmail.com;
njabulo.m...@gmail.com; vu...@telkomsa.net; dumisani...@gmail.com
Subject: Re: [PAYCO] FW: attack on party annual conference
Cde Kutie
It is simple the enemies of the PAC are simply those who are using members for
their individual purposes and to some extend in the interest
;
malingeplaat...@yahoo.com; mphothobej...@yahoo.com; mokoen...@workmail.co.za;
moshemahlom...@gmail.com; monyanepin...@gmail.com; mop...@pac.org.za;
mnd...@yahoo.com; po...@yahoo.com; celenjabulo...@gmail.com;
njabulo.m...@gmail.com; vu...@telkomsa.net; dumisani...@gmail.com
Subject: Re: [PAYCO] FW
,mokoen...@workmail.co.za,moshemahlom...@gmail.com,monyanepin...@gmail.com,mop...@pac.org.za,mnd...@yahoo.com,po...@yahoo.com,celenjabulo...@gmail.com,njabulo.m...@gmail.com,vu...@telkomsa.net,dumisani...@gmail.com
Date: Thursday, September 4, 2014 1:06:19 PM GMT+0200
Subject: RE: [PAYCO] FW: attack
...@pac.org.za; Ndade Mxunyamnd...@yahoo.com;
po...@yahoo.compo...@yahoo.com;
celenjabulo...@gmail.comcelenjabulo...@gmail.com; njabulo.m...@gmail.com;
Dumisani Zwanedumisani...@gmail.com; Vusi .Mahlanguvemahla...@gmail.com
Subject: Re: [PAYCO] FW: attack on party annual conference
Comrade Zondo
Your
;
dmalo...@klerksdorp.org
Subject: Re: [PAYCO] FW: attack on party annual conference
Comrades,
The levels of factionalism in our party makes one doubt any possibility of
getting the party right. The level of engagement is below par and mainly
focuses on attacking personalities. I maintain my
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Nomnga'phumzilenom...@hotmail.co.za; pacaza...@webmail.co.za; 'Narius
Moloto's...@pac.org.za; 'Smoll Zondo'smollzo...@gmail.com; 'Sbusiso
Xaba'sbusiso.x...@gmail.com; dud...@webmail.co.za; 'Lehlogonolo
Digashu'digashuma...@gmail.com; dmalo...@klerksdorp.org
Subject: RE: [PAYCO
Likotsi'urf@gmail.com;
'Excellent Rikhotso'excellentrikho...@gmail.com; 'SELLO IRVIN
LESABANE'scal...@hotmail.com
Subject: RE: [PAYCO] Need for serious introspection: What to do to advance
the struggle?
Comrade Linda
The five (5) questions you raised haunts many within the party amidst the
silence
Subject: RE: [PAYCO] Clause 14 (b) has to be scrapped
Izwe lethu M'Afrika
14 (b) is a microcosm of the deep ideological and organisational problem
facing the party, therefore scrapping 14 (b) is not necessarily a solution.
The core problem is mainly the character and form of leadership as a party
we
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