[PD] Font usage in vanilla

2012-09-28 Thread Julian Brooks
Hey all, I'm kinda stuck... I want to add a font (linux-libertine) for use in Pd vanilla, specifically for use with [cnv], and I'm not sure how to add it in. I've done this: julian@brooks:~/Desktop$ fc-match mono //suggested from here:

Re: [PD] Font usage in vanilla

2012-09-28 Thread IOhannes m zmölnig
On 09/28/2012 01:55 PM, Julian Brooks wrote: Hey all, I'm kinda stuck... I want to add a font (linux-libertine) for use in Pd vanilla, specifically for use with [cnv], and I'm not sure how to add it in. afair, all the iemguis have hardcoded fonts which cannot be changed in a simple way.

Re: [PD] Font usage in vanilla

2012-09-28 Thread Julian Brooks
Ok, bugger. Ah well, will have to put my pedantic aestheticism to one side for now. Possible future feature request? Cheers IOhannes, Julian ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -

[PD] pd font?

2011-02-09 Thread Richie Cyngler
Hi all, What/ where is the Pd font? I'm on Mac Can I get it into font book? __ thanks very much Richie Cyngler ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list

Re: [PD] pd font?

2011-02-09 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
If you use Pd-extended on Mac OS X, it is Monaco, a standard built-in fixed wdith font. .hc On Feb 9, 2011, at 4:20 AM, Richie Cyngler wrote: Hi all, What/ where is the Pd font? I'm on Mac Can I get it into font book? __ thanks very much Richie Cyngler

Re: [PD] Font weirdness with 0.43test

2010-09-09 Thread Mathieu Bouchard
On Sun, 5 Sep 2010, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: tk scaling is set to a fixed size in Pd 0.43, so it should work cross-platform. I suppose its really a matter of testing it. ah, I tried it and it seems to work. I mean this in particular. What would be a good way to get the version number

Re: [PD] Font weirdness with 0.43test

2010-09-09 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
On Sep 9, 2010, at 4:15 PM, Mathieu Bouchard wrote: On Sun, 5 Sep 2010, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: tk scaling is set to a fixed size in Pd 0.43, so it should work cross-platform. I suppose its really a matter of testing it. ah, I tried it and it seems to work. I mean this in

Re: [PD] Font weirdness with 0.43test

2010-09-06 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
On Sep 5, 2010, at 5:16 PM, Mathieu Bouchard wrote: On Tue, 24 Aug 2010, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: On Aug 22, 2010, at 12:34 PM, Mathieu Bouchard wrote: On Sat, 21 Aug 2010, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: Yeah, the IEMGUI font size issues are still very present. I think the best way

Re: [PD] Font weirdness with 0.43test

2010-08-30 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
On Sun, 2010-08-29 at 21:17 -0700, Miller Puckette wrote: Or the Mathieu idea - let the text be small, the box be 'standard' size, and let the text not fill the box -- but Pd could still know the true size of the font so editing could work. Clearly we'll never be able to reliably set the

Re: [PD] Font weirdness with 0.43test

2010-08-30 Thread Miller Puckette
On Mon, Aug 30, 2010 at 06:04:55PM -0400, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: On Sun, 2010-08-29 at 21:17 -0700, Miller Puckette wrote: Or the Mathieu idea - let the text be small, the box be 'standard' size, and let the text not fill the box -- but Pd could still know the true size of the

Re: [PD] Font weirdness with 0.43test

2010-08-29 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
The problem is that sending the measured font sizes via pd init puts us back at square one: the boxes will be different sizes depending on platform and now depending on font. Then patch/GUI layout breaks across different platforms, and now when people use different fonts. The least of all evils

Re: [PD] Font weirdness with 0.43test

2010-08-29 Thread Miller Puckette
Or the Mathieu idea - let the text be small, the box be 'standard' size, and let the text not fill the box -- but Pd could still know the true size of the font so editing could work. Clearly we'll never be able to reliably set the font metrics and will have to play with what we're dealt, one way

Re: [PD] Font weirdness with 0.43test

2010-08-27 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
I plan on porting the Pd-eztended color scheme to the new 0.43 code, nabe some new ideas will come out of that. .hc Bernardo Barros bernardobarr...@gmail.com wrote: Are you planning some kind of colours for some kind of 'syntax colouring' support for the boxes (message/number/audio gen/video

Re: [PD] Font weirdness with 0.43test

2010-08-26 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
On 2010-08-26 06:52, Miller Puckette wrote: Perhaps a solution for cross-platform patching (such as for making help files) could be to say this will look woerd on other machines unless you use font blaz to develope the patch so that you see the canonical sizes. this page is best viewed

Re: [PD] Font weirdness with 0.43test

2010-08-26 Thread Jack
$ wish '/home/jack/Bureau/fonttest.tcl' linespace ascent descent font name --- 16 14 2 fangsong ti 13 11 2 fixed 18 15

Re: [PD] Font weirdness with 0.43test

2010-08-26 Thread Roman Haefeli
This is on Ubuntu Lucid x86 32bit: -8.5.8- linespace ascent descent font name --- 18 14 4 Andale Mono 19

Re: [PD] Font weirdness with 0.43test

2010-08-26 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
You will get poor results using anything less than 8.5. There are serious bugs in the 8.4 branch, especially with font handling on GNU/ Linux. If you are on a Debian system, you can do: apt-get install tcl8.5 tk8.5 update-alternatives wish Then choose wish8.5. Pd 0.42 should be fine

Re: [PD] Font weirdness with 0.43test

2010-08-26 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
Yes, I agree. I think the font to standardize on is DevaVu Sans Mono. Its a decent font, it fits already, its free software, and it has the best unicode support of probably any font. It also comes installed by default on most GNU/Linux systems. In Pd-extended, the Windows installer

Re: [PD] Font weirdness with 0.43test

2010-08-26 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
On Aug 26, 2010, at 3:26 AM, IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote: On 2010-08-26 06:52, Miller Puckette wrote: Perhaps a solution for cross-platform patching (such as for making help files) could be to say this will look woerd on other machines unless you use font blaz to develope the patch so that

Re: [PD] Font weirdness with 0.43test

2010-08-26 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
On Aug 25, 2010, at 5:24 PM, Mathieu Bouchard wrote: On Wed, 25 Aug 2010, cyrille henry wrote: here is the result of your script. It doesn't have a column for font width where applicable. In our case, that's quite critical. this version does: fonttest.tcl Description: Binary data

Re: [PD] Font weirdness with 0.43test

2010-08-26 Thread Miller Puckette
OK.. but for 0.43... is there a stopgap? I can't think of any way to get text editing working (i.e., getting the character you click on to be the one Pd sees you click on) except by going back to status quo. cheers MIller On Thu, Aug 26, 2010 at 01:54:15PM -0400, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote:

Re: [PD] Font weirdness with 0.43test

2010-08-26 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
If you use one of the supported fonts, then it should works much better, but still with issues on the biggest fonts. Right now the code just measures the width of the characters, and so you can see the width is always right. I suppose we also need to measure the height, but then the

Re: [PD] Font weirdness with 0.43test

2010-08-26 Thread Bernardo Barros
Are you planning some kind of colours for some kind of 'syntax colouring' support for the boxes (message/number/audio gen/video etc.) and cords (audio non-audio)? This should be less problematic lhen the font size issue, shouldn't it? 2010/8/26 Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at: Looks like

Re: [PD] Font weirdness with 0.43test

2010-08-25 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
I think the real solution to this would be one step deeper. If Pd used Tcl to handle the GUI interaction, then we could use the Tk scaling feature, which is what Tk does to handle cross-platform differences in font rendering. Pd could then store the Tk scaling number in the patch, and

Re: [PD] Font weirdness with 0.43test

2010-08-25 Thread Miller Puckette
Sure... here: #N canvas 359 131 405 427 10; #X msg 98 55 \; line 1 \; line 2 \; line 3 \; line 4 \; line 5 \; line 6 \; line 7 \; line 8 \; line 9 \; line 10 \; line 11 \; line 12 \; line 13 \; line 14 \; line 15 \; line 16 \; line 17 \; line 18 \; line 19 \; line 20; On my machine the text box

Re: [PD] Font weirdness with 0.43test

2010-08-25 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
Ok, testing now... as for having the boxes with a standardized size, that's been the case with Pd-extended 0.40 and is also the case with 0.43 as of now. I'm not sure if I understand your idea about the margin tho, but an outline in edit mode sounds like a good idea. .hc On Wed, 2010-08-25 at

Re: [PD] Font weirdness with 0.43test

2010-08-25 Thread Miller Puckette
By 'margin' I meant that 'the box is larger than the text inside it so there's a bunch of empty space inside it'... if you don't see that you won't have the problem I'm having :) M On Wed, Aug 25, 2010 at 02:45:12PM -0400, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: Ok, testing now... as for having the

Re: [PD] Font weirdness with 0.43test

2010-08-25 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
I figured out the cause. The problem is caused by the font used being different than the font that fits into the standardized boxes. If you have the margin problem or the offset clicking problem then your Tcl/Tk is not used DejaVu Sans Mono or Andale Mono, the two fonts I have found that fit

Re: [PD] Font weirdness with 0.43test

2010-08-25 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
Here is the answer to this font problem: - use Tcl/Tk 8.5 or newer, Tcl 8.4 is very flawed (see archives for discussion, basically it makes bad guesses and assigns them to the fontname courier) - use one of these fonts: {Courier 10 Pitch DejaVu Sans Mono \ Bitstream Vera Sans Mono Droid

Re: [PD] Font weirdness with 0.43test

2010-08-25 Thread cyrille henry
hello, withubuntu 10.04 pd -noprefs - the message box are higher than the text pd -noprefs -font-face andale mono solve the problem so, andale mono is here, but not used... here is the result of your script. linespace ascent descent font name

Re: [PD] Font weirdness with 0.43test

2010-08-25 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
Which wish are you using? $ wish % info patchlevel 8.5.8 .hc On Wed, 2010-08-25 at 22:30 +0200, cyrille henry wrote: hello, withubuntu 10.04 pd -noprefs - the message box are higher than the text pd -noprefs -font-face andale mono solve the problem so, andale mono is here, but not

Re: [PD] Font weirdness with 0.43test

2010-08-25 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
I have found that Courier 10 Pitch, DejaVu Sans Mono, and Andale Mono work best. We should probably change the font searching thing in pd-gui.tcl to use those instead of what's there. .hc On Wed, 2010-08-25 at 22:30 +0200, cyrille henry wrote: hello, withubuntu 10.04 pd -noprefs - the

Re: [PD] Font weirdness with 0.43test

2010-08-25 Thread Mathieu Bouchard
On Wed, 25 Aug 2010, cyrille henry wrote: here is the result of your script. It doesn't have a column for font width where applicable. In our case, that's quite critical. _ _ __ ___ _ _ _ ... | Mathieu Bouchard on the road (in

Re: [PD] Font weirdness with 0.43test

2010-08-25 Thread cyrille henry
8.4.19 c Le 25/08/2010 22:58, Hans-Christoph Steiner a écrit : Which wish are you using? $ wish % info patchlevel 8.5.8 .hc On Wed, 2010-08-25 at 22:30 +0200, cyrille henry wrote: hello, withubuntu 10.04 pd -noprefs - the message box are higher than the text pd -noprefs -font-face

Re: [PD] Font weirdness with 0.43test

2010-08-25 Thread Miller Puckette
My machine is running 8.5... but I don't think it's good to have Pd's default font choice come out all wrong... ideally, it should do something reasonable no matter what the font (well, at least if it's fixed-pitch). At the very least, Pd has to know the correct font metrics... and it seems now

Re: [PD] Font weirdness with 0.43test

2010-08-24 Thread Miller Puckette
Long as there's a way to fix a problem I'm having: in message boxes with many lines of text, you can easily click on one character and select one above it... it gets very confusing. (Fedora 13 out-of-box). I'm guessing that in the current version the GUI simply tells Pd what size the font ought

Re: [PD] Font weirdness with 0.43test

2010-08-23 Thread Frank Barknecht
Hi, On Sat, Aug 21, 2010 at 01:39:08PM -0400, Mathieu Bouchard wrote: BTW I've been using Pd-Extended's Linux/OSX default font size as the basis for all my patches for making my last 400 patches or so. I've used Pd vanilla for all my patches so far, with a 10 font-size, whatever that is in

Re: [PD] Font weirdness with 0.43test

2010-08-23 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
On Aug 22, 2010, at 12:34 PM, Mathieu Bouchard wrote: On Sat, 21 Aug 2010, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: Yeah, the IEMGUI font size issues are still very present. I think the best way forward is to write a new GUI lib, the IEMGUI code is really hard to follow and/or modify. Come on. It

Re: [PD] Font weirdness with 0.43test

2010-08-23 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
On Aug 23, 2010, at 7:01 AM, Frank Barknecht wrote: Hi, On Sat, Aug 21, 2010 at 01:39:08PM -0400, Mathieu Bouchard wrote: BTW I've been using Pd-Extended's Linux/OSX default font size as the basis for all my patches for making my last 400 patches or so. I've used Pd vanilla for all my

Re: [PD] Font weirdness with 0.43test

2010-08-22 Thread Mathieu Bouchard
On Sat, 21 Aug 2010, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: Yeah, the IEMGUI font size issues are still very present. I think the best way forward is to write a new GUI lib, the IEMGUI code is really hard to follow and/or modify. Come on. It only has with the use of the -%d in the sys_vgui calls,

Re: [PD] Font weirdness with 0.43test

2010-08-21 Thread Frank Barknecht
Hi, On Fri, Aug 20, 2010 at 03:14:57PM -0300, Bernardo Barros wrote: nice: pd -jack -font-face Inconsolata -font-size 12 It seems that this will just make all your patches default to a font size of 12 (check with Edit-Font), it will not make your 10px font become bigger. Ciao -- Frank

Re: [PD] Font weirdness with 0.43test

2010-08-21 Thread Bernardo Barros
well, it looks different here. If I check the menu option, the boxes are not placed so well. I like the looks like this, Inconsolata 16 (that is our 12) and no *bold*: -font-face Inconsolata -font-size 16 -font-weight normal 2010/8/21 Frank Barknecht f...@footils.org: Hi, On Fri, Aug 20, 2010

Re: [PD] Font weirdness with 0.43test

2010-08-21 Thread Mathieu Bouchard
On Fri, 20 Aug 2010, Frank Barknecht wrote: I can fix the size difference by adding -font-size 12 to the startup options or probably by some tcl hacking, but actually I was hoping, that the GUI reqrite would finally allow me to avoid using startup options for basic GUI configuration and

Re: [PD] Font weirdness with 0.43test

2010-08-21 Thread Mathieu Bouchard
On Fri, 20 Aug 2010, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: Inconsolata is an awesome font, by far the best fixed-font I've seen anywhere. That's why made Pd use it if it can find it. Otherwise it settles on what Tcl/Tk decides to call courier (see Tk font docs). set testfonts {Inconsolata Courier

Re: [PD] Font weirdness with 0.43test

2010-08-21 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
On Aug 21, 2010, at 1:50 PM, Mathieu Bouchard wrote: On Fri, 20 Aug 2010, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: Inconsolata is an awesome font, by far the best fixed-font I've seen anywhere. That's why made Pd use it if it can find it. Otherwise it settles on what Tcl/Tk decides to call courier

[PD] Font weirdness with 0.43test

2010-08-20 Thread Frank Barknecht
Hi, attached screenshot shows a comparison of the font, I use with Pd on Debian Squeeze: FreeMono. I start Pd with -font-face FreeMono, no size or weight options. My patches usually use size 10 as default, this also is used on the screenshot. It seems that 0.43 scales the font to be one step

Re: [PD] Font weirdness with 0.43test

2010-08-20 Thread Bernardo Barros
btw I remember to ask myself why pd do not allow the user to choose his/her own fonts... why? 2010/8/20 Frank Barknecht f...@footils.org: Hi, attached screenshot shows a comparison of the font, I use with Pd on Debian Squeeze: FreeMono. I start Pd with -font-face FreeMono, no size or weight

Re: [PD] Font weirdness with 0.43test

2010-08-20 Thread Miller Puckette
I don't know how to do this in a way that's portable across platforms... this has been a huge unsolved problem for years :) Miller On Fri, Aug 20, 2010 at 01:58:30PM -0300, Bernardo Barros wrote: btw I remember to ask myself why pd do not allow the user to choose his/her own fonts... why?

Re: [PD] Font weirdness with 0.43test

2010-08-20 Thread Frank Barknecht
On Fri, Aug 20, 2010 at 10:17:27AM -0700, Miller Puckette wrote: I don't know how to do this in a way that's portable across platforms... this has been a huge unsolved problem for years :) Hehe, yeah, I'm used to tears. :) Anyway in my quick test the GUI rewrite seems to have degraded a bit in

Re: [PD] Font weirdness with 0.43test

2010-08-20 Thread Bernardo Barros
I would vote for this fixed-spaced (but not ugly) font: http://www.levien.com/type/myfonts/inconsolata.html 2010/8/20 Frank Barknecht f...@footils.org: On Fri, Aug 20, 2010 at 10:17:27AM -0700, Miller Puckette wrote: I don't know how to do this in a way that's portable across platforms...

Re: [PD] Font weirdness with 0.43test

2010-08-20 Thread Bernardo Barros
nice: pd -jack -font-face Inconsolata -font-size 12 2010/8/20 Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at: You can choose your own fonts, but only from command line flags, or by editing the Tcl files. .hc On Aug 20, 2010, at 12:58 PM, Bernardo Barros wrote: btw I remember to ask myself why pd

Re: [PD] font

2009-11-03 Thread olsen
check this post http://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detailaid=2886083group_id=55736atid=478070 ... i think this will be of interest to you: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=461308 please remove ttf-bitstream-vera, it is completely superseeded by its improved version

[PD] font

2009-11-02 Thread Mathieu Bouchard
On Sat, 31 Oct 2009, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: I forgot to mention, I just changed the font from Bitstream Vera to DejaVu in SVN. what for? _ _ __ ___ _ _ _ ... | Mathieu Bouchard, Montréal, Québec. téléphone:

Re: [PD] font

2009-11-02 Thread Mathieu Bouchard
On Mon, 2 Nov 2009, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: On Nov 2, 2009, at 1:12 PM, Mathieu Bouchard wrote: On Sat, 31 Oct 2009, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: I forgot to mention, I just changed the font from Bitstream Vera to DejaVu in SVN. what for? Bitstream was removed from Debian and Ubuntu

[PD] PD font size issue on Gentoo

2009-08-22 Thread Jarra
Hi, I installed Pd on Gentoo, and the GUI text looks good, but the console text and the text in the PD objects is rather large, popping out of the object boxes. (as you can see here - http://2009.jarra.nl/pd_20090822.png) Is there a way to change this? The Tk, Tcl and Pd version I have currently

Re: [PD] PD font size issue on Gentoo

2009-08-22 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
Have you tried any of these: http://puredata.info/docs/faq/on-gnu-linux-the-fonts-are-strange-and-or-too-big-or-small .hc On Aug 22, 2009, at 3:02 PM, Jarra wrote: Hi, I installed Pd on Gentoo, and the GUI text looks good, but the console text and the text in the PD objects is rather

Re: [PD] font changed

2009-08-19 Thread Frank Barknecht
Hallo, I don't know about Pd-extended, but with vanilla svn Pd 0.42 on a freshly install Debian unstable system, I recently had a similar problem. I fixed it by playing around with the -font-face startup option. FreeMono was giving me results similar to previous versions. You can search for fonts

Re: [PD] font changed

2009-08-19 Thread Erich Berger
hi frank, I fixed it by playing around with the -font-face startup option. FreeMono was giving me results similar to previous versions. You can search for fonts with the fc-match command like: $ fc-match mono $ fc-match Courier thank you that fixed my problem best erich

Re: [PD] font changed

2009-08-19 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
On Aug 19, 2009, at 5:54 AM, Erich Berger wrote: hi frank, I fixed it by playing around with the -font-face startup option. FreeMono was giving me results similar to previous versions. You can search for fonts with the fc-match command like: $ fc-match mono $ fc-match Courier thank you

[PD] font changed

2009-08-18 Thread Erich Berger
hello, i am running ubuntu 9.04 and Pd version 0.41.4-extended-rc2. after an ubuntu update my pd console and editing font changed in a way that the text does not fit anymore into the boxes, changing font size does not help. anybody knows what could have happend or how i can repair it, meaning

Re: [PD] font changed

2009-08-18 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
Hey Erich, Enjoying the summer sidra? Try this to fix your font issue: http://puredata.info/docs/faq/on-gnu-linux-the-fonts-are-strange-and-or-too-big-or-small .hc On Aug 18, 2009, at 3:45 AM, Erich Berger wrote: hello, i am running ubuntu 9.04 and Pd version 0.41.4-extended-rc2. after

[PD] font sizes WAS: Idiomatic Pd

2008-07-29 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
On Jul 29, 2008, at 10:29 AM, Matt Barber wrote: Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2008 10:02:05 -0400 From: marius schebella [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [PD] Idiomatic Pd To: pd-list@iem.at Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed I am quite pedantic

Re: [PD] font sizes WAS: Idiomatic Pd

2008-07-29 Thread marius schebella
Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: On Jul 29, 2008, at 10:29 AM, Matt Barber wrote: Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2008 10:02:05 -0400 From: marius schebella [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [PD] Idiomatic Pd To: pd-list@iem.at Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1;

Re: [PD] font sizes WAS: Idiomatic Pd

2008-07-29 Thread Matt Barber
If font sizes are indeed different on Pd-extended, then that's a bug. From all my tests, they are pixel-accurate on all three platforms since 0.39.3. You might have the problem where Tcl/Tk can't load the fonts properly on GNU/Linux, which is addressed in this FAQ:

Re: [PD] Font rendering quite CPU expensive in GEM (Jerome Tuncer)

2008-02-01 Thread Jerome Tuncer
[text3d] is much much quicker than [text2d] be it when rapidly changing displayed text or when just displaying... (: ++ Jé Jerome Tuncer a écrit : Interesting point. I didn't know it actually worked that way. This CPU exepensiveness using [text2d] made me think maybe it doesn't use

[PD] Font rendering quite CPU expensive in GEM

2008-01-24 Thread Jerome Tuncer
Hi everyone, I use text2d to render a lot of dynamic text in a [gemwin] and I notice a very high CPU consumption while doing so. Can I expect higher performances with [text3d] ? I barely now nothing in pure OpenGL coding but if I could get as many text objects displayed as simple Geos, I'd be

Re: [PD] Font rendering quite CPU expensive in GEM

2008-01-24 Thread chris clepper
On Jan 24, 2008 8:25 AM, Jerome Tuncer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi everyone, I use text2d to render a lot of dynamic text in a [gemwin] and I notice a very high CPU consumption while doing so. Can I expect higher performances with [text3d] ? Yes.

Re: [PD] Font rendering quite CPU expensive in GEM

2008-01-24 Thread cyrille henry
hello, rendering text is quite expensive. but dynamicaly changing the text is even more expensive. if you've got a high number of letter ( 5 000), i think using texture is the best solution. cyrille Jerome Tuncer a écrit : Hi everyone, I use text2d to render a lot of dynamic text in a

Re: [PD] Font rendering quite CPU expensive in GEM (Jerome Tuncer)

2008-01-24 Thread Timon Botez
Font rendering quite CPU expensive in GEM (Jerome Tuncer) Its also down to what typeface you are using. The more complex the curve, the higher the polygon count. Straight edge/polygon faces such as Gridnik (http://www.foundrytypes.co.uk/foundry_gridnik/ gridnik.html) or Citizen

Re: [PD] Font rendering quite CPU expensive in GEM (Jerome Tuncer)

2008-01-24 Thread Jerome Tuncer
Interesting point. I didn't know it actually worked that way. This CPU exepensiveness using [text2d] made me think maybe it doesn't use OpenGL and only [text3d] does so. But it finally appears [text2d] uses OpenGL as well. I'll try implementing my patches with [text3d] and see how it goes...

Re: [PD] font troubles WAS Re: [PD-dev] working towards Pd-0.40.3-extended

2007-10-25 Thread Mathieu Bouchard
On Tue, 23 Oct 2007, Miller Puckette wrote: I agree it would be excellent to have the font come out the same size on all platforms (and also that it agree at least approximately with the sizes of the old fonts used). But, as a fallback, when the font shows up at the wrong size, I think it's

Re: [PD] font troubles WAS Re: [PD-dev] working towards Pd-0.40.3-extended

2007-10-25 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
On Oct 25, 2007, at 3:18 PM, Mathieu Bouchard wrote: On Tue, 23 Oct 2007, Miller Puckette wrote: I agree it would be excellent to have the font come out the same size on all platforms (and also that it agree at least approximately with the sizes of the old fonts used). But, as a fallback,

Re: [PD] font troubles WAS Re: [PD-dev] working towards Pd-0.40.3-extended

2007-10-23 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
I am fine with that as long as the box sizes for the default font face and standard font sizes are the same to the pixel on all platforms. .hc On Oct 23, 2007, at 10:52 PM, Miller Puckette wrote: I agree it would be excellent to have the font come out the same size on all platforms (and

Re: [PD] Font problem? Spaces replaced by boxes

2007-09-09 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
On Sep 7, 2007, at 11:15 AM, Spencer Russell wrote: On 9/7/07, jasch [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: i've had the same issue on ubuntu with extended (rev ?, i'd have to go have alook): screenshot here: www.jasch.ch/dl/ds_davos_soundscape/Screenshot.png /*j Yup, that's just what I'm seeing,

Re: [PD] Font problem? Spaces replaced by boxes

2007-09-07 Thread Spencer Russell
On 9/7/07, jasch [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: i've had the same issue on ubuntu with extended (rev ?, i'd have to go have alook): screenshot here: www.jasch.ch/dl/ds_davos_soundscape/Screenshot.png /*j Yup, that's just what I'm seeing, too. -spencer

Re: [PD] Font problem? Spaces replaced by boxes

2007-09-06 Thread jasch  
i've had the same issue on ubuntu with extended (rev ?, i'd have to go have alook): screenshot here: www.jasch.ch/dl/ds_davos_soundscape/Screenshot.png /*j On 07.09.2007, at 06:26, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: Hey, I don't quite understand the issue. Could you take a screenshot? I

[PD] Font problem? Spaces replaced by boxes

2007-09-06 Thread Spencer Russell
Hey all, I recently installed Pd-0.40.3-extended-20070824-debian-testing-i386.deb from the nightly auto-builds, and the first time I ran it I was pleasantly surprised by the improved font appearance throughout. However, the next time I ran it, several days later, any spaces in the status window

Re: [PD] font size survey - please try it on your machine!

2007-04-25 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
On Apr 23, 2007, at 5:42 AM, Steffen wrote: On 22/04/2007, at 16.42, Frank Barknecht wrote: Hallo, Hans-Christoph Steiner hat gesagt: // Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: Actually, the patch itself would be better than a screenshot. I want to gather all the results into one patch.

Re: [PD] font size survey - please try it on your machine!

2007-04-22 Thread Frank Barknecht
Hallo, Hans-Christoph Steiner hat gesagt: // Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: Actually, the patch itself would be better than a screenshot. I want to gather all the results into one patch. Attached are my additions of 0.40 MSP and 0.39.2-extended RC1 on Linux and a little helper for easier

Re: [PD] font size survey - please try it on your machine!

2007-04-19 Thread Steffen
On 19/04/2007, at 3.28, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: Actually, the patch itself would be better than a screenshot. I want to gather all the results into one patch. Ok. I've added to the 1st and 3ed test for Mac OS X extended-test7. And altered the size in the 2nd test for Mac OS X

Re: [PD] font size survey - please try it on your machine!

2007-04-18 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
Actually, the patch itself would be better than a screenshot. I want to gather all the results into one patch. .hc On Apr 17, 2007, at 11:53 AM, Josh Steiner wrote: ok, here is my screenshot based on your revised patch -josh Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: On Apr 17, 2007, at 3:11 AM,

Re: [PD] font size survey - please try it on your machine!

2007-04-17 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
Perfect, thanks. .hc On Apr 17, 2007, at 10:33 AM, olsen wrote: sorry for the previous post - this is what i got with Pd-0.39.2- extended-test7 on kubuntu running fluxbox Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: Just to know what we are up against with the font size problem, I have started a

Re: [PD] font size survey - please try it on your machine!

2007-04-17 Thread Josh Steiner
ok, here is my screenshot based on your revised patch -josh Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: On Apr 17, 2007, at 3:11 AM, Frank Barknecht wrote: Hallo, Hans-Christoph Steiner hat gesagt: // Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: Just to know what we are up against with the font size problem, I have

[PD] font size survey - please try it on your machine!

2007-04-16 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
Just to know what we are up against with the font size problem, I have started a patch to document all the key parts. Please try it on your machine to see if my measurements are correct. Also, please fill in any that you are running. font_sizes.pd Description: Binary data Just post

Re: [PD] Font and Text size; how to make pd patches easier on the eyes

2007-02-20 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
The next beta release of Pd-0.39.2-extended will have pretty big changes in the font sizing, as well as anti-aliasing on Mac OS X. I'll try to get it out this week. .hc On Feb 15, 2007, at 1:11 AM, John H wrote: This is my first submission to this mailing list, so I hope I'm not

[PD] Font and Text size; how to make pd patches easier on the eyes

2007-02-15 Thread John H
This is my first submission to this mailing list, so I hope I'm not completely in the wrong here. I've searched through all the daily digests that I've received in the past few months, and I couldn't find a single issue about font size or even the general gui bugs that make everything so hard to

Re: [PD] Font and Text size; how to make pd patches easier on the eyes

2007-02-15 Thread Frank Barknecht
Hallo, John H hat gesagt: // John H wrote: This is my first submission to this mailing list, so I hope I'm not completely in the wrong here. I've searched through all the daily digests that I've received in the past few months, and I couldn't find a single issue about font size or even the

Re: [PD] Font and Text size; how to make pd patches easier on the eyes

2007-02-15 Thread carmen
this to complain. Is there a solution I don't know about? Is this an issue that's currently being worked on? yes its been worked on quite a bit, in the desiredata project.. ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -

Re: [PD] Font and Text size; how to make pd patches easier on the eyes

2007-02-15 Thread carmen
On Thu Feb 15, 2007 at 11:06:32AM +0100, Frank Barknecht wrote: Hallo, John H hat gesagt: // John H wrote: This is my first submission to this mailing list, so I hope I'm not completely in the wrong here. I've searched through all the daily digests that I've received in the past few

Re: [PD] Font and Text size; how to make pd patches easier on the eyes

2007-02-15 Thread bd pd
John - I thought i would try to answer your first post with my own first.. in the build im using (Pd-0.39.2-extended-test4) there is an edit menu (only when a patch window is open) which has a font and tidy up option. I was glad to find it too. -brendan On 2/15/07, John H [EMAIL PROTECTED]

[PD] font to include in Pd-extended packages

2006-12-05 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
I'd like to propose that we include a default font in the Pd-extended packages and that anything that uses fonts use the included font. I know that the aesthetics of fonts are generally very contentious, I would like to avoid that issue entirely. Instead this is an issue of usability.

Re: [PD] font to include in Pd-extended packages

2006-12-05 Thread padawan12
On Tue, 5 Dec 2006 13:01:05 -0500 Hans-Christoph Steiner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'd like to propose that we include a default font in the Pd-extended packages and that anything that uses fonts use the included font. Second that. Sure, leave the loading of other fonts open, but a

Re: [PD] font to include in Pd-extended packages

2006-12-05 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
On Dec 6, 2006, at 2:35 AM, padawan12 wrote: On Tue, 5 Dec 2006 13:01:05 -0500 Hans-Christoph Steiner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'd like to propose that we include a default font in the Pd-extended packages and that anything that uses fonts use the included font. Second that. Sure, leave