Hi,
I bought a new one for about 280 US$ during Christmas time. The price here
in Germany had fallen since summer from about 450 US$ to that low level.
I like it for the price and would recommend it. The colours are fine and
also the contrast ratio is OK for me.
But you have to be aware, that
At 17:46 29/01/02 -0500, you wrote:
The psychology of brand loyalty is interesting.
Emperical studies have shown that when consumers are indifferent between
two choices, A B, and are forced to pick one, they will be happier with
A if they chose A or happier with B if they chose B. In short,
On a recent trip to Port Macquarie I stopped by one of
my old haunts, a photo lab (Bay Park Photos)/plug and
was shown some of the latest latest industry statistics
on market share, the leader was by far PENTAX with a
little over 34 per cent and following behind in second
place was Canon with a
At 20:08 29.1.2002 -0500, you wrote:
The 45mm is equiv. to a 22.5 mm 35mm Lens. From my early
tests results I can declare this as a VERY sharp lens corner
to corner, but I've only used it at F8 and F11. I have no
idea how well it does wide open.
\
JCO
Tempting.. tempting...
Antti-Pekka
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Also, Pentax makes affordable constant-aperture zooms (FA 20-35/f4, FA
28-70/f4), unlike other manufacturers. Hopefully, they'll bring out a
24-100/f4 in the near future.
No no no... the FA*70-210/4 ED [IF] first, then Pentax could make whatever
they wanted. :)
regards,
Alan Chan
At 18:15 29.1.2002 -0500, Aaron wrote:
It's all about the handling. I sold my 4x5 because every time I thought of using
it I ended up getting out my 67 instead. So, I sold the 4x5, at the time in order
to finance buying more lenses for the 67, but instead that money bought an
engagement
I think the question can also be phrased Why not Pentax?
Solid, dependable, high quality, simple to use, robust are some words that
can be used to describe a pentax system.
Just pick up any pentax camera and you'll know Why Pentax!
You should sell these to Pentax for the next TV ad. :)
Why does exposure supposedly change when filtering for VC papers and it
doesn't
change with VC head? Does it really change?
Frantisek,
It changes with the Saunders enlargers because they have ND filters that
change as you change the filtration.
The way the Saunders dichro-type enlargers work
Doug Franklin wrote:
London-based law firm Beale and Company -
which has taken up the case on behalf of a
client - has already issued proceedings
against Kodak at Ilford County Court.
^!!
I wouldn't have believed it if I hadn't seen it with my own eyes right there
in black
Rob Brigham wrote:
Fuji are still using APS sized CCDs. We will see about Contax...
Interesting that the S2Pro has 6.17 million effective pixels delivers
a
massive 12 million pixel image. Presumably this means that it is an
effective, effective 12MegaPixel camera! I wonder what the real pixel
Bruce wrote:
Weight/size do sound very important as considerations as does the
directions Pentax takes with it's products.
The direction part is very important. Here in Norway, MF sales has
basically collapsed. The reason is that few are willing to commit the
amount of money necessary for an
Hi Wendy.I probably use the same lab in Markham,
Accent photo on 14th Ave.I used to shoot the Kodak
400cn but now shoot delta 400/3200 and take it in
direct to them.Even then it takes a week.They,so far,
seem to do good work.I took my test rolls from the
Yashica Mat to them also and apart from
So, basically, Pentax is proven right...but they had to add mirror lock
to the camera to prove themselves right. That's pretty funny, and yet
kind of sad at the same time.
Aaron,
Not really. I'm sure the camera will sell better to macro photographers and
astrophotographers and the like, who
http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/sci/tech/newsid_1779000/1779800.stm
...use of photo-editing software in the home is up 27%.
In October, more than 21 million US computer users chose to develop
their own prints.
It gives you the ability to decide what you want to print and the
freedom to
Hi Pat,
Thanks for the info. You are right! I went back last night and checked all
of the lenses. Only the third party lenses, such as the Tamrom Adaptall
SP90mm 2.8, combine the highest f-stop with the auto setting. For this
particulal lens, f32 is combined with the Auto mode. This does not
At 08:16 30/01/02 -0500, you wrote:
One tactic I have noticed people using recently:
Take an auction with no reserve, starting at $1 and a buy-it-now of, say
$75. I have noticed a lot of people will put in a $1 bid to simply kill the
buy-it-now. I guess this is in the hope that they can get it
If mail to New York doesnt take too long I would suggest getting some
mailers from Adorama's pro lab, that's who I use for my BW processing
(until I get around to making my darkroom). I am extremely pleased wit their
work and it's nice to be able to just do it by mail.
Regards,
/\/\ick...
Wendy Beard wrote:
If you don't want to let on that you've sold it outside ebay (I won't
tell!), just say the dog ate it or something.
I guess that's a valid enough excuse...
And my buyer advised me to say it got stolen from my car. C'mon, guys. Would YOU
believe it if someone told you
I like the part about removing double chins.
LOL LOL
Dave
Pentax User
Stouffville Ontario Canada
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Good for you.
Dan Scott
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And it's wrong to do what I did, then duck behind a lie.
I decided to take my lumps: In canceling each bid, I wrote: The item has
been sold in person to a local buyer.
In canceling the auction itself, I chose the radio button, This item is
no longer
And don't forget, it's lots of fun to add 'em to shots of people you don't
like...
Dan Scott
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I like the part about removing double chins.
LOL LOL
Dave
Pentax User
Stouffville Ontario Canada
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Yes! I use this lens along with several other EX series lenses on an
MZ-S body. All work with every function as they should and I have had
no problems whatsoever. BTW, this is a superb lens from an optical
point of view and I love it.
Cheers, Mike.
Christien Bunting wrote:
Any problems
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My point is that there's no guessing at all with a VCCE head when
changing filtration.
The guessing that I referred to was the initial determination
To my mind you have no obligation to sell the item on ebay, and none of
the bidders could expect to have secured the item unless the auction was
over and they were still the highest bidder. You are perfrectly within
your rights morally and legally to cancel the auction at any stage and
for
From: Mike Johnston [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Why does exposure supposedly change when filtering for VC papers and
it doesn't change with VC head? Does it really change?
Frantisek,
It changes with the Saunders enlargers because they have ND filters
that change as you change the
From:Mike Johnston [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Considering that the enlarger market has fallen so
dramatically in recent years--I don't know the exact numbers offhand,
but it's something like 1/10th of what it was in 1980, if not
worse--it's not very likely that we're going to see a lot of
I use ebay extensively.
dpconsult.com
It grew out of a hobby @ first, in 1998, when many of the priced were very low and
bargains were everywhere. (And my income was pretty high, which helped a lot.) It
became a business last year when I was unemployed for an extended period. BIN started
I paid $102 for it in 1999 and posting it at $60 a while back. Takes a 55mm filter.
Black. Focuses to about 12 inches (0.3 m). EX++ condition, immaculate glass. Will ship
anywhere. BidPay or PayPal preferred, but will accept a bank check or similar.
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Rob Brigham wrote:
However, if the buyer found you through ebay, then you would have a
moral obligation at least to pay ebay the commision they were due.
I agree, Rob; I'd be happy to. Is there a mechanism for doing this?
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hEY GUYS...
The nicest thing for me as a seller on eBay is when I have a BIN auction going and
someone tries the old minimum bid thing to kill the BIN (as was discussed on this
thread). Then, a couple of days later the item gets bid past my original BIN price! (I
use BIN instead of reserve
Collin Brendemuehl wrote:
Many people don't bid on Reserve auctions
I've noticed this and it really baffles me. What difference does it make
as long as you don't bid more than you're willing to pay? I find it really
annoying when people selling items proclaim NO RESERVE! or NR. It doesn't
make
I have a great problem. I have to buy gear for about US$1000. That's not a
problem, the fact that I won't be able to buy anything more in a long time
(I'm going to be a father this spring :-) is.
Ok, this is my one shot. What should I buy. How do I best put my money in
gear to evolve myself as a
The Astronomy Picture of the Day for today has a photo of the moon rising over
the city skyline of Seattle:
http://antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov/apod/astropix.html
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Fellow macrophotographers (and anyone else who may have answers/opinions);
I recently bought a non-Pentax bellows system with screw mounts. I'm sure it
will work fine for my needs and let's face it, the price was right.
My questions revolve around Pentax 35mm bellows in K-mount.
1. How many
I, for one, usually don't bid on Reserve Auctions. That is an oxymoron
to me. In an auction, the seller puts an item up for bid and a
competition between bidders sets the price. It seems to me that you
are bidding against the seller in a Reserve Auction and really have no
idea if you will
Mark Roberts wrote:
Many people don't bid on Reserve auctions
I've noticed this and it really baffles me. What difference does it make
as long as you don't bid more than you're willing to pay? I find it really
annoying when people selling items proclaim NO RESERVE! or NR. It doesn't
make
Dont know his sources, but when asked about the rumours this is the
response from What Digital UK:
UPDATE ON THE CONTAX N DIGITAL
Ahh - good old 'caps lock'
Anyway, the N digital is definitely a full frame CCD (6.04 million
effective) and the launch date is stated as 'March 2002'
Current
The following is a link from the Bulwer-Lytton Fiction Contest 2001 Results.
I believe it is a contest for the worst fiction based on the author of It
was a dark and stormy night; the rain fell in torrents--except at occasional
intervals, when it was checked by a violent gust of wind which
Mike,
I just started reading it. Pal has the advantage of owning the older
one and can compare better. His description makes me want to take a
look and probably spend more for it. My local dealer isn't going to
get any soon. He has a stock of 645n's in boxes on the floor.
Probably 5 or so.
Pål,
Any idea how fast the sales have dropped? Slow and steady or fairly
rapid?
When comparing film 35mm to MF we can easily compare negative size.
How about when comparing digital 35mm to MF? If the CCD and resulting
image are larger, won't the cost skyrocket? Since the high end SLR's
are
49mm reverse adapter.
K-mount on one side
49mm thread on the back.
For putting your lens onto the
end of a bellows or extension tubes.
$5 ppd in US.
Collin
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Cats are evil incarnate. They are only your friend
until someone makes a better offer. They are the whores of
Jason,
I thought that Tamron came out with a later adaptall mount to handle
the A setting properly on program capable bodies. You might want to
check and see. I thought it was called Adaptall II.
Bruce Dayton
Wednesday, January 30, 2002, 6:07:38 AM, you wrote:
VJ Hi Pat,
VJ Thanks for
Bruce Dayton wrote:
Mike,
I just started reading it. Pal has the advantage of owning the older
one and can compare better. His description makes me want to take a
look and probably spend more for it. My local dealer isn't going to
get any soon. He has a stock of 645n's in boxes on
Wow, there was a lot of ice on the car this morning. Hope your ride in to
school went ok. I'm glad that the pooch got some exercise, too. Maybe
she'll be a little more mellow tonight (fat chance).
Hope your day goes well!
--Mark
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TV...
The reserve is higher than 380...if you had met whatever the reserve is it would've
gone up to that the reserve amount automatically...without meeting the reserve price
you end up where you landed.
Sometimes if an auction doesn't meet a sellers reserve I'll email them after it closes
Tom,
On top of that, if your max bid is the same or higher than Reserve, it
will bid up to reserve. In this case, your max bid is below the
reserve amount, so it only bid you up enough to be the high bidder.
Bruce Dayton
Wednesday, January 30, 2002, 12:16:39 PM, you wrote:
PL No Tom, eBay
too late Bob, I already paid for it!
Christian
On Wednesday 30 January 2002 15:11, Bob wrote:
Collin,
Sell me that 49mm reverse adapter!
Give me an address and I'll put the money in the mail.
Bob Sullivan
1090 39th St.
downers Grove, Illinois 60515
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I quess what i'm doing now,the equine stuff.I don't
want to get into commercial work but if i had space
for a small studio and new more about lighting it,i
would add that to the equi work.Weddings for friends
only.
Dave
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I could have been certain that this would have been sent by Aaron ;-)
Malcolm
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Sent: 30 January 2002 19:48
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Subject: Re: Buying new gear, Help!!!
$1000? Excellent.
At 14:45 30/01/02 -0800, you wrote:
While we're talkin' ebay...
There's an item I want, and it was at $280. I bid ~$380. I get a screen
telling me I'm the high bidder, but I haven't met the reserve price yet.
My bid sits at $300.
Huh?
I thought ebay would automatically up a bid to the reserve
Bob Walkden [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Hi,
buy film.
I hate you when you are so d*** right!
:-)
Gianfranco
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Great stuff seeking new owners in Yahoo! Auctions!
http://auctions.yahoo.com
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Mark,
I was embarressed about my last post to the list. Thanks for making me feel better.
g
Bob S.
Mark wrote:
Wow, there was a lot of ice on the car this
morning. Hope your ride in to school went ok.
I'm glad that the pooch got some exercise, too.
Maybe she'll be a little more mellow
Len...
Perfectly put. Another way to describe it is by saying it's the under bidder that sets
the current bid on any item (unless there is only one bidder).
Brendan MacRae
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Oh, I forgot to mention. In this case your $380 max still didn't meet the
reserve.
Len
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Subject: RE: Confused by Ebay
No Tom, eBay only posts as
I love being called sweetie...
??
bpm
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I'm sorry, but you don't know me well enough to call me sweetie just
yet.
On Wednesday 30 January 2002 02:24 pm, Mark Erickson wrote:
Wow, there was a lot of ice on the car this morning. Hope your ride
in to school went ok. I'm glad that the pooch got some exercise,
too. Maybe she'll be a
On Tue, 29 Jan 2002, Christian Skofteland wrote:
I love my older PhotoSmart. It has replaced the crappyscan(tm) that I used
to use. I scan only slides and negatives.
The only issue I have is scanning prints. It gives me awful lines down the
center when it scans prints of any size.
Wow, that could have been a lot worse. :) Hi, yourself, Mark!
-Zak-
Hope your day goes well!
--Mark
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Yes Tom, you are correct. However, your max proxy bid was below the reserve,
so it only increased it to become the top bidder. If the reserve was in your
range however, it would have increased your bid to the reserve.
Frits Wüthrich
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In a message dated 1/30/2002 3:26:18 PM US Eastern Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Wow, there was a lot of ice on the car this morning. Hope your ride in to
school went ok. I'm glad that the pooch got some exercise, too. Maybe
she'll be a little more mellow tonight (fat
So, fuji is making releases pre-pma on their new DSLR:
http://www.dpreview.com/news/0201/02013003fujifilms2pro.asp
Those must be damn small pixels! C'mon pentax, give us some news!
Personally, I hope that Pentax makes something with a chip that's at least
this big. 1.6x is kinda crazy (a
http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=1326906350
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Jon Hope wrote:
[Questions about photographing bullet impacts using high-speed flash]
Hi Jon,
I'll second Rob Gillespie's suggestion of the following link:
http://www.pacsci.org/public/education/gallery/high_speed_photos/text.html
It's a very informative site, and it describes how to build
Why wouldn't Pentax co operate with Fuji to make the same camera based on
the MZ-S? Why does it seem to be so long till the PMA?
Frits Wüthrich
Mike Johnston wrote:
Big news--Fuji have introduced a 6.17 megapixel Super CCD III
camera based
on the Nikon N80 that allegedly offers real
Yikes
That was a close call.
--Mark
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From: Carlos Royo
Since this thread seems to be on a sentimental bent, allow me to briefly
introduce myself and why I popped in. My name is Jim Timpe and I'm a
regular participant on the Ol*mpus list. My father is and has always been a
Pentax guy, but his failing
To anyone who speaks English English--can you please enlighten me as to what
a bedsit is??
--Mystified Mike
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The delay mentioned on the Contax list mentions a release date of
March12th for the Contax N1.
Alexander Grigolia
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http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=1326906350
How about that - a blind link was spotted on eBay.
Fred
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Hi, sweeties! ;-)
I just got my AF-360FGZ in the mail and am stunned by the complexity of the
this flash. I really don't want to have to refer to the user's manual every
time I fire it up Does someone out there know of a quick reference guide
for using the flash?
Thanks,
--Mark
I've been on and off all day today Frank - no problem
except I'm not getting any new bids :(
annsan
frank theriault wrote:
Hi,
I haven't been able to get onto eBay for about 10 or 12 hours now.
Anyone else having the same problem, or is it just me?
Just curious.
regards,
frank
Their objective in killing the BIN is to get the gear at less than the BIN,
presumably because they value it at less than the BIN. Therefore, this
tactic is no good against somebody like you who values the gear at more
than the BIN. Simply quote a maximum bid equal to the BIN, and you will
Some folks, when it is likely that they will not get what they want, either
close the auction, saying the item is no longer for sale, or they exercise
their one bid option
Can you please explain what this 'one bid option' is? I thought one
wasn't allowed to bid on one's own auctions?
Cotty
Well, you are going to be a new father, and that is when I made a major
Pentax purchase myself.
Actually, around the 1 year mark. What happens is that the baby will move
faster than you can manual focus!
So you need autofocus!
Yeah, you can get a zx-5n and some lens, or a cheaper model and
Well the fee is only 5 cents. It looked for a while that
people were not buying the concept.
I wish they would not have the gaps in the length of time
you could
hold an auction . why 3,5,7,10?? why not 3,4,5,6,7,8 etc.
ARe you guys selling camera stuff hurting with lack of
bids? mY usually
Yeah it's called a sticky note and a pen, I had to
write short hand notes for my AF500FTZ, I don't want
to know what the back of the 360 looks like.
--- Mark Erickson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi, sweeties! ;-)
I just got my AF-360FGZ in the mail and am stunned
by the complexity of the
After the recent hot tempered discussion about posting ebay items, I bring
this to your attention only because it's listed in Other and Specialty.
http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=1326768252
Bill KG4LOV
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Mark,
I've got three of them. Are you going to use it with an MZ-S? The
general settings are pretty easy. It mostly defaults when put on the
body and turned on. If the top left on the LCD doesn't say P-TTL,
press mode until it does. Mode button is how you cycle between P-TTL,
TTL, Auto and
If you're using in on the MZ-S, mount it to the hotshoe, turn it on, slide
the sync switch to green and start shooting.
Bill KG4LOV
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Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2002 4:41
Kodak does.
At 02:57 PM 1/29/2002 -0500, you wrote:
Hi,
Does anybody know if any manufacturer makes an injet paper that's
suitable for photos, and double sided?
Thanks,
Ed
http://lightandsilver.com
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aNN,
I sell lots of old home movie equipment. Cameras, lenses, editors and thingys.
My auctions have been red hot over the last couple of weeks.
Brendan MacRae
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Mark, thanks so much for hitting the wrong key(s) -
I needed a bit of levity today! Hope you didn't send
sweetie
a pdml post!g
annsan
Mark Erickson wrote:
Wow, there was a lot of ice on the car this morning. Hope your ride in to
school went ok. I'm glad that the pooch got some exercise,
Hi Jim
I'm a regular here and lurk a lot on the Oly list. Welcome aboard and stick
around awhile. We can get just as OT here as you do over there :-).
Bill KG4LOV
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Hi Petter - My advice would be Don't Go Mad! It would be easy to
blow your budget all at once on a lot of shiny new gear you eventually
find you don't use. I was in the same happy position as you (wrt both
Pentax buying and fatherhood) a year or so ago, and I'm pleased with the
way both have
At 16:36 30/01/02, you wrote:
Hi Rob (and everyone else that replied)
Thanks for the pointers, I've had a quick look. I'll look about some more
and then see what stuff I can find locally.
Cheers
Hi,
Late last year, I started to get interested in high speed photo taking.
After a bit of
Me:
I do agree that using an enlarger meter is a good way to get to a
first print very efficiently. For those in the U.S. and Europe, JOBO
makes a good one.
tv:
Which one is that?
Well, the good one I have is a JOBO Comparator 2, with the enigmatic number
6251 on the box which I'll have to
My local dealer isn't going to
get any soon. He has a stock of 645n's in boxes on the floor.
Probably 5 or so. I wonder how fast he sells them.
Bruce,
That's _very_ unusual considering how small the markup is on most medium
format equipment. That's why most camera stores don't carry any. A
Jim Tempe,
Here's my take on their EBay value, based on your descriptions:
a) SMC 50/1.2 ($275 to $350)
b) SMC-A 85/1.4 ($800 to $1000; one just went for $1100)
c) SMC 200/2.5 ($350 to $550)
d) SMC shift 28/3.5 ($600 to $800)
e) 500/4.5 ($800 to $1200 in K
Hi,
it's a bed/sitting room. When young people first leave (their parents')
home they often rent a bedsit. Generally it's one room with a bed in
it and a couple of chairs. Shared bathroom kitchen with other people in
the same house. Hell on Earth.
Many towns have areas where a lot of the
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From: Mark Erickson
Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2002 3:41 PM
p.s., It was below freezing in the SF Bay area this
morning Br
-34ºC this morning in southern Saskatchewan.
I think it was -46º up in the Wollaston Lakes region (that would
be northern
Fuji uses a lot of interpolation (read that as creating pixels
based on the pixels around them) I'm interested in reading the
full specs and seeing the hands-on reviews when the camera is
actually available to be tested. APS sized CCDs or, CMOS in the
case of the EOS D30, are not that big of a
On Wednesday, January 30, 2002, at 07:24 PM, Mick Maguire wrote:
I think you would call them a studio apartment here Mike.
Or more like a bachelor, methinks.
-Aaron
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Thank goodness I have no shame! I've actually enjoyed entertaining the PDML
crew today. I forwarded a link to this thread to Yvonne (sweetie) and she
got a laugh out of it, too.
BTW, we have an energy dog. If she doesn't get her exercise, she comes
and bounces on our heads early in the
I was looking at a few Spotmatics last night and noticed a very nice
attribute. The strap attachments are in the shape of the Asahi logo on
the pentaprism housing, a triangle with flattened corners. Checking
further, Pentax made the change from a triangle with rouded corners in
July or August
Hi Pop to Be,
Lets look at the scenario, children=Autofocus, the new
MZ-S has a very, very fast autofocus ( I did check one out), camera decision
made.
For a lens (notice the singular), the new 24-90 that goes with it is said
to
be very, very nice. Lens decision made.
How to get the extra
But what would someone who speaks Texas English call it?
To anyone who speaks English English--can you please enlighten me as to what
a bedsit is??
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On Wed, 30 Jan 2002, Mike Johnston wrote:
To anyone who speaks English English--can you please enlighten me as to what
a bedsit is??
A bedsit is a 'bedroom / sitting room'.
Think of a small studio flat, bedroom and kitchen all as part of the main
room. Now think of it with old and slightly
30 Jan 02, Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Mike wrote:
To anyone who speaks English English--can you please
enlighten me as to what a bedsit is??
- --Mystified Mike
Before I explain, here's some poetry from an LP dating
back about three decades. A cigar to the winner...
Breathe deep,
On Thu, 31 Jan 2002, dave o'brien wrote:
Think of a small studio flat, bedroom and kitchen all as part of the main
room. Now think of it with old and slightly tired furniture, all gone
slightly mouldy.
I forgot to add:
If you look at one of the early episodes of Mr Bean (Rowan
I have a spotmatic F with the squared ones (which I always thought was
nice), but isnt the F much later than that? I know that they are the
originals from new too. I loved the way that they reintroduced that old
style of lug again rather than the bar type on the SF's
Regards,
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