Re: Good news and bad news

2003-03-25 Thread Heiko Hamann
Hi Cotty, I'm sorry about that loss. The information overflow by the TV news makes war abstract, sometimes. Your personal experience shows us the real face of war. Really bad... Cheers, Heiko

Re: now thats what i call a bargain

2003-03-25 Thread Levente -Levi- Littvay
http://cgi.ebay.com.au/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=2919528106category=30 020 Look at feedback. seems like a hijacked account L

Re: now thats what i call a bargain

2003-03-25 Thread Caveman
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Re: now thats what i call a bargain

2003-03-25 Thread Caveman
adphoto wrote: http://cgi.ebay.com.au/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=2919528106category=30 020 spencerst (private) 25-Mar-03 14:13:00 AEDST 3015160678 S Complaint : FRAUD SELLER. Hijacked account. SCAMMER listing fake auctions. BEWARE

Re: Re: Pentax -- Canon

2003-03-25 Thread Roland Mabo
From: Artur Ledóchowski [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Mon, 24 Mar 2003 22:37:38 +0100 Yes, by all means:) And I'm glad Pentax seems to be returning to the Z-series philosophy by implementing HyperProgram into the *ist D and perhaps into the bodies to follow. I believe that all future SLR's from Pentax

Re: Complaints

2003-03-25 Thread Roland Mabo
From: Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Mon, 24 Mar 2003 18:20:45 -0500 The *ist is a competitor for the Canon Elan 7 and Nikon N-75 rather than the entry level Rebel 2000 and N-55. The Nikon F/N 75 is only slightly more expensive than the F65. It's essentially a F/N 65 with some additional

Re: Complaints

2003-03-25 Thread Roland Mabo
From: Chris Brogden [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Mon, 24 Mar 2003 17:27:52 -0600 (CST) It doesn't matter if the ps's are film or digital; both suffer from the same limitations that drive people to buy an entry-level SLR in the first place. I sell cameras. I see on a daily basis what people want. As I

Re: Complaints

2003-03-25 Thread Roland Mabo
From: Chris Brogden [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Mon, 24 Mar 2003 23:09:05 -0600 (CST) Price will play a part, too. If the *ist is priced below the F80/Elan 7, it should do very well. If it's priced comparably, it's going to be a tough call. Prices from Jessop (http://www.jessop.com) - one of

Meters

2003-03-25 Thread Clive evans
Message text written by INTERNET:[EMAIL PROTECTED] I have recently bought and like a POLARIS ambient/flash meter,digital redaout similar to Minolta but MUCH cheaper...comes with sliding incident/reflected dome and there is an optional 10 degree spot

Voiglander sytstem

2003-03-25 Thread Clive evans
Yes I know we all use Pentaxes and are therefore SLR people , however I am thinking of supplementing my kit with a small RF selection and of course the Voigtlander kit looks good pricewise, I'm paticularly taken with the superwide 15mm and 12mm which seem to me to be a different panoramic option

Incident/Reflected light metering

2003-03-25 Thread Clive evans
Ok , what I was taught doing my city and guilds commercial photography in 1969 was that the goal is to meter for the end result..therfore if the finished product is a print [viewed by reflected light ] then to calcualte exposure using areflected light method [grey card,

Re: Hand Meters

2003-03-25 Thread Bruce Rubenstein
You can work with one, maybe two lights like this. When working with more than that (lighting a room can easily use 6 - for stills) you need a flash meter. Guide numbers also only work if you know the true GN of the flash. BR [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: BTW, The metering method I usually use

Re: Hand Meters

2003-03-25 Thread Bruce Rubenstein
It depends on the direction of the light, how the light is being used and film (just for starters). I would measure the intensity of the main light (on the axis of the light), and try to get a measurement for the highlight (particularly with slide film) and on in the shadow to know contrast

18-35 FAJ

2003-03-25 Thread Camdir
Folks. The UK list price for the 18-35 FAJ lens is just GBP199 inc VAT. I have no idea at this time what the import price will be. We might get one or two *ist in (no delivery date as yet); certainly some 18-35. Kind regards from sunny Brighton Peter

Re: OT: some Digital SLR comments

2003-03-25 Thread Heiko Hamann
Hi T, on 24 Mar 03 you wrote in pentax.list: The 1D is huge. That was my first impresion, too. I tried it on the Cebit. Both would be nearly useless without the manual. What a bewildering array of buttons and knobs. When I picked them up the first question was, How the hell do I use this,

Re: Pentax Stereo Adapter

2003-03-25 Thread Fred
I'll definitely shoot a roll or two if I do pick it up. I think this thing just screws onto any 49mm filter ring. Could be fun! That was my thought with the VS1 Q-DOS 3-D lens (a very different 3-D system). It's for ~fun~. Fred

Re: Voiglander sytstem

2003-03-25 Thread Th. Stach
Hi Clive, try out this one as a good starting point: http://www.photographical.net/bessa_r2.html Various links to luminous landscape (concerning the superwides) included! Greetinx, Thomas Yes I know we all use Pentaxes and are therefore SLR people , however I am thinking of supplementing

Re: Hand Meters

2003-03-25 Thread Gregory L. Hansen
T Rittenhouse said: Simply because the incident meter meters the light level. A reflected light reading tells you more about the subject than about the light level. Presuming that you want dark object to be dark and light objects to be light in your photograph, the incident meter is easier to

Re: Pentax Stereo Adapter

2003-03-25 Thread frank theriault
Yeah. What was that old SCTV bit with John Candy? Dr. Tongue's 3D House of Horrors? Could be fun!! -frank Fred wrote: I'll definitely shoot a roll or two if I do pick it up. I think this thing just screws onto any 49mm filter ring. Could be fun! That was my thought with the VS1 Q-DOS

Re: OT: In defense of Pacific Image Scanners

2003-03-25 Thread Mark Roberts
Lon Williamson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Vuescan is not available for PIE scanners either, but there's a Minolta scanner out there everyone is raving about that costs about US $300, and perhaps Vuescan supports that. That's probably the Scan Dual II, which is supported by Vuescan. Silverfast

Re: OT: In defense of Pacific Image Scanners

2003-03-25 Thread Mark Roberts
I wrote: That's probably the Scan Dual II, which is supported by Vuescan. That should be the Scan Dual III (around $300.00), but it's also supported by Vuescan. -- Mark Roberts Photography and writing www.robertstech.com

Re: Pentax Stereo Adapter

2003-03-25 Thread Feroze Kistan
- Original Message - From: William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, March 25, 2003 1:35 AM Subject: Re: Pentax Stereo Adapter - Original Message - From: frank theriault Subject: Pentax Stereo Adapter I may have a chance to buy one of these

Re: Pentax Stereo Adapter

2003-03-25 Thread frank theriault
Holy crap, 3D Man! Just checked BH, and look at that price! So far, in the Goodwill auction, the opening bid is $10Cdn - no bids yet. http://www.bhphotovideo.com/product/41537/PESAS49/REG/294 I ~have~ to go for it, now. cheers, frank Fred wrote: I'll definitely shoot a roll or two if I do

Re: OT: some Digital SLR comments

2003-03-25 Thread Juey Chong Ong
On Tuesday, March 25, 2003, at 07:54 AM, Heiko Hamann wrote: ACK. I don't know why those pieces have to be so complicated. Maybe they think that customers will equate more buttons with more technology... Product designers tend to face two opposing demands: one is that the new product must be

Re: Hand Meters

2003-03-25 Thread T Rittenhouse
Well there used to be an incident dome that fitted the lens on the market. The big problem with that is often one has the camera on a tripod. It is a hassle to have to take it off the tripod to meter, then put it back to shoot. But sometimes a poor boy has to do what a poor boy has to do. Ciao,

Re: Incident/Reflected light metering

2003-03-25 Thread T Rittenhouse
Ah ha, one of those, if the words, match then the techniques should match ideas. Sorry, that is bull. A proper incident reading will give the most consistent exposure frame to frame of any metering technique no matter whether you are using slide film, or negative film, or digital, or how the end

Re: Hand Meters: Gray card readings

2003-03-25 Thread Greene
Out of curiosity, I took out my Gossen Luna Pro, stuck it six inches from the door pull on the front of my computer hutch and metered: f/8.0 @ 4.BR I then closed the dome over the sensor, held the meter so the dome was about the same location @ six inches from the hutch door knob and metered:

Meters

2003-03-25 Thread Clive evans
With the current interest in handheld meters I would be remiss not to point out my cuurent eaby auction for a calculight-X incident/reflected light meter [well two actually!] Have a look at http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemcategory=29982item=2918679 885rd=1 Clive Antibes France

Re: Good news and bad news

2003-03-25 Thread Steve Desjardins
This post underscores and boldfaces the true extent of this list. I had read about a British ITV journalist being killed in Iraq and felt that it's a real shame that anyone has to die in these conflicts. Now I learn that someone I've come to know on this list over the past two years or so had

Re: Complaints

2003-03-25 Thread Roland Mabo
From: Bruce Rubenstein [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tue, 25 Mar 2003 10:53:53 -0500 They're only $40 (not the E version) apart here, and the Canon name is worth $40 to a lot of people. Do you compare date models? The *ist comes with a data back as standard, it can't be bought without one. You must

Re: OK, how do some people send HTML links to PDML, and I can't??

2003-03-25 Thread Herb Chong
your mail reader can detect URLs and highlight them for you, even in plain text. Herb - Original Message - From: Sid Barras [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: pentax list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, March 25, 2003 16:41 Subject: OT: OK, how do some people send HTML links to PDML, and I

OT: Camera Part Identification

2003-03-25 Thread collinb
Just for fun: In the movie Galaxy Quest, Dr. Lazarus carries this locator thingie when on the planet. The hood looks like a Bronica ETR single-action flip-up waist-level hood. Is that correct? Collin

Vs: Voigtlander system

2003-03-25 Thread Raimo Korhonen
I have Bessa-R and 4.5/15 mm, 1.7/35 mm and 2.5/75 mm lenses. The lenses are excellent. The body seems to be OK but I have used it only for a short time so nothing definitive as yet. The exposure measurement feels a bit unsure but I am not sure about the accuracy yet. If you only need a body

Re: Voiglander sytstem

2003-03-25 Thread Alan Chan
http://www.cosina.co.jp/ regards, Alan Chan Yes I know we all use Pentaxes and are therefore SLR people , however I am thinking of supplementing my kit with a small RF selection and of course the Voigtlander kit looks good pricewise, I'm paticularly taken with the superwide 15mm and 12mm which

Re: Hand Meters

2003-03-25 Thread T Rittenhouse
Yes. Ciao, Graywolf http://pages.prodigy.net/graywolfphoto - Original Message - From: Steve Desjardins [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, March 25, 2003 10:58 AM Subject: Re: Hand Meters It this the trick then? The incident reading is better because it is

Re: Hand Meters

2003-03-25 Thread Bruce Rubenstein
Sort of. An incident meter reads the amount of light and gives an EV based on that reading. Set the camera according to the reading and white comes out white, grey comes out grey and black comes out black. Use a reflected light meter the same way and white comes out grey, grey comes out grey,

Re: Complaints

2003-03-25 Thread Bruce Rubenstein
In the US, only the 7E model can be had with the date option. It is a virtually worthless option for SLRs. Unless you have some very special need it is only for the PS crowd. The date function will not sell more *ists vis-a-vis the Elan 7. BR [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Bruce Rubenstein

RE: Hand Meters

2003-03-25 Thread Hagner, Andrew
Hi Steve: I think some people think that it is better because it seems to work best in average light conditions (not too much contrast and the same light hitting the meter as the subject. It frees them from interpreting the light so it is easier. It actually is easier in studio conditions.

RE: Hand Meters

2003-03-25 Thread Hagner, Andrew
Bruce: I disagree. My statement is correct. It is the reflected light that is recorded on the film. The reflected light is measured by the reflected spot meter and the reading does indeed indicate placement of this value on Zone V, but it is up to you to place it on the correct zone for proper

Re: Complaints

2003-03-25 Thread Steve Desjardins
So, the *ist is entry level in Europe and mid market in the U.S. Maybe their just smarter than us . . . ;-) Steve (now hiding under his desk)

Re: Complaints

2003-03-25 Thread Nick Zentena
On March 25, 2003 10:59 am, Roland Mabo wrote: From: Bruce Rubenstein [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tue, 25 Mar 2003 10:50:51 -0500 BH has the camera listed for $300. That is only $20 less than the ZX-5n and twice the price of the ZX-60. It is $60 more than the Canon Ti and $40 less than the EOS

Re: Complaints

2003-03-25 Thread Nick Zentena
On March 25, 2003 11:05 am, Roland Mabo wrote: Do you compare date models? The *ist comes with a data back as standard, it can't be bought without one. You must compare with date models from the competition. How much is the date feature worth to people? If all it does is record the

RE: Complaints

2003-03-25 Thread David Chang-Sang
I've been staying out of this one for the most part but I must agree with Bruce here. The Date Function, while it may be handy for some, is sort of pointless in my books. The Contax G2 data back gave a lot more information - exposure info for example - that may be more useful and it imprinted it

RE: Hand Meters

2003-03-25 Thread Hagner, Andrew
Hi Bill: No confusion on my part but maybe my poor writing. You are correct by saying reflective meter measures light reflected from a subject, and an incident meter measures the light falling on a subject. I maintain however, that the reflective meter gives you more useful information than

Re: Hand Meters

2003-03-25 Thread Bill Owens
Good explanation, Bruce. Bill Sort of. An incident meter reads the amount of light and gives an EV based on that reading. Set the camera according to the reading and white comes out white, grey comes out grey and black comes out black. Use a reflected light meter the same way and white

Re: Complaints

2003-03-25 Thread Roland Mabo
Date might be more popular in Japan than in the U.S. I believe Pentax decided to have it as standard, was to save cost. It cost money to make an add-on, it's less expensive to include it with the body from start. Since they already had planned the LCD panel to be at the back, they could use the

Re: OT: In defense of Pacific Image Scanners

2003-03-25 Thread Levente -Levi- Littvay
That's probably the Scan Dual II, which is supported by Vuescan. The problem I have is Scan Dual II or III is that it does not batchscan whole rolls. The reason I was looking at the Kodak 3600 and the Pacific Image ones because they batchscan whole rolls. But I'm tied to vuescan because of

Re: Complaints

2003-03-25 Thread Roland Mabo
From: Nick Zentena [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tue, 25 Mar 2003 11:58:55 -0500 How much is the date feature worth to people? All big makers has SLR's with data backs. Seems to me like some customers wants it. If not, why does the option exist if they makers are only loosing money on it? I believe

Re: Pentax Stereo Adapter

2003-03-25 Thread Caveman
Chris Brogden wrote: One sold recently on eBay for $114 US, so they're worth a bit now. I remember a few years ago we had two at work that we couldn't sell, even at $100 CAN. Chris, What other toys do you still hide there in the shop ? Any nice used Pentax gear ? cheers, caveman

SV: Hand Meters

2003-03-25 Thread Jens Bladt
Hi About incident metering and 18% grey. Only if you use a meter, not made for incident metering, the question about the angle, in which to point the meter, may be crutial, I think. But when using a meter with a spherical or invercone diffuser (meters made for Incident Metering usually have one)

RE: Complaints

2003-03-25 Thread Roland Mabo
From: David Chang-Sang [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tue, 25 Mar 2003 12:08:00 -0500 I don't ever recall talking to anyone who was purchasing a camera that the date function was going to be a make or break item. Then why does it exist as an option to most SLR's? I believe it must exist those who finds

Re: Complaints

2003-03-25 Thread Roland Mabo
From: Nick Zentena [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tue, 25 Mar 2003 11:57:03 -0500 The BH current price is quite a bit lower then Jessops in the UK. I say current because until they actually change it from coming soon to selling now anything can change. Cameras are less expensive in U.S than in Great

Re: a real bargain - mine!!

2003-03-25 Thread Camdir
Sid. I remember the 90WR. Before Camera Direct, I worked for 'another retailer'. Pentax UK sent us a counter display for the 90WR, comprising a miniature rock garden with pool, pump, and floating tap. The 90 sat in the pool, whilst being doused with a stream of water. Very nice too, until

Re: Complaints

2003-03-25 Thread Herb Chong
i want to find a plain back for my ZX-5n so that i can remove the data back. it is useless for me as it uses up the image area. Herb - Original Message - From: David Chang-Sang [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, March 25, 2003 12:08 Subject: RE: Complaints

Re: OK, how do some people send HTML links to PDML, and I can't??

2003-03-25 Thread Evan Hanson
Sid, it's your mail reader automatically creating the links for things that start with http:// or mailto:

Re: Complaints

2003-03-25 Thread Bruce Rubenstein
On these types of cameras it prints the date and maybe time, but no exposure info, in a visible portion of the picture. What most people want to know is, How do I turn off this stupid thing that ruined all my pictures? BR [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: How much is the date feature worth to

Re: Hand Meters

2003-03-25 Thread Dr E D F Williams
It is possible to evaluate the contrast range of a scene by viewing it through a neutral density filter. I use two, one transmits about 50% the other 80%. Its quite easy to see where the highlights and the shadows are if you reduce the overall brightness of the scene. You can also use a couple of

Re: Hand Meters

2003-03-25 Thread Dr E D F Williams
Sorry I made a mistake - for 80% read 20%. ___ Dr E D F Williams http://personal.inet.fi/cool/don.williams Author's Web Site and Photo Gallery Updated: March 30, 2002 - Original Message - From: Dr E D F Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, March 25,

Re: OT: In defense of Pacific Image Scanners

2003-03-25 Thread Mark Roberts
Levente -Levi- Littvay [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That's probably the Scan Dual II, which is supported by Vuescan. The problem I have is Scan Dual II or III is that it does not batchscan whole rolls. The reason I was looking at the Kodak 3600 and the Pacific Image ones because they batchscan

RE: Hand Meters

2003-03-25 Thread Hagner, Andrew
Steve: We all have been in your situation at time or another. I think we can give you all the reasons for using one type of a meter or the other according to our experience. But perhaps it would be useful to do some serious reading on the subject and make your decision then. Ansel Adams' The

Re: complaints

2003-03-25 Thread Camdir
The BH current price is quite a bit lower then Jessops in the UK. I say current because until they actually change it from coming soon to selling now anything can change. Might that not also be to do with Retail Price Maintenance, aka Minimum Advertised Price, aka price fixing? Kind

Re: Re: Pentax Stereo Adapter

2003-03-25 Thread U+B Scheffler
It -is- fun! I like especially the pics of my sons when they were childs. You should look whether the viewer is added, can be used with slides only. You can learn to look at prints, too, without any equipment, after you have trained your eyes. I do it because I almost never use slide films. But

Re: a real bargain - mine!!

2003-03-25 Thread Chris Brogden
On Tue, 25 Mar 2003, Sid Barras wrote: Got a 105WR instead, at a very attractive price, wouldn't you say? Sid Not bad at all, Sid. The 105WR is a good camera to use when you want something tough, but you don't want to cry for too long if you break it. I picked up a Canon WP-1 the other day

Re: OT: OK, how do some people send HTML links to PDML, and I can't??

2003-03-25 Thread Ryan K. Brooks
Sid Barras wrote: HI, I tried sending a post just then with a web site link, and it got bounced back for having enriched text. I assume the bounce was talking about the link I included in the letter. But I see posts all the time with hot links. What am I doing wrong? Sid Tell your mail

Re: Hand Meters

2003-03-25 Thread Steve Desjardins
It's always a good day when I learn something, and this has been bothering me for a while. Not many explanations of this that I have found clearly state why one is better than the other. Of course, I still think I'll buy one that does both . . . Steven Desjardins Department of Chemistry

Re: OT: OK, how do some people send HTML links to PDML, and I can't??

2003-03-25 Thread Maris V. Lidaka Sr.
To supplement Ryan: links will still show up underlined and hot-linked in plain text. Maris Ryan K. Brooks wrote: Sid Barras wrote: HI, I tried sending a post just then with a web site link, and it got bounced back for having enriched text. I assume the bounce was talking about the link

Re: More on incident metering

2003-03-25 Thread Bill Lawlor
In December I saw War Photographer, a doc about the life and work or famed PJ James Nachtweny. He was shooting in Bosnia , Rwanda, and Indonesia using a Canon EOS. He uses Tri-X for most shots. Despite the sophisticated EOS metering and the broad latitude of Tri-X he used a Minolta or Sekonic

Re: Kodak High Definition 400 speed film?

2003-03-25 Thread Keith Whaley
Is that what it's called? A print film? keith whaley Steve Pearson wrote: Guys at my local camera store say this is a fairly new film, that is very good. Bought a 3 pack to try it, instead of the Portra 400VC. Anyone out there tried this new High Defintion film yet? If so, how did you

Re: Complaints

2003-03-25 Thread Roland Mabo
From: Bruce Rubenstein [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tue, 25 Mar 2003 12:29:21 -0500 On these types of cameras it prints the date and maybe time, but no exposure info, in a visible portion of the picture. What most people want to know is, How do I turn off this stupid thing that ruined all my

Re: Complaints

2003-03-25 Thread Roland Mabo
From: Bruce Rubenstein [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tue, 25 Mar 2003 16:10:32 -0500 Not most! Usually only models that have Dummy auto modes have date in the picture printing. It's a low to mid-range, Gadget Freak frill. I meant most because it exist more models with optional databacks than models

Re: CAVE Academy Award: Re: Complaints

2003-03-25 Thread Kenneth Waller
Yeah, you coild say its DATED. Kenneth Waller - Original Message - From: Chris Brogden [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, March 25, 2003 1:38 PM Subject: Re: CAVE Academy Award: Re: Complaints On Tue, 25 Mar 2003, Caveman wrote: The Complaints thread gets now the

Re: Complaints

2003-03-25 Thread Bruce Rubenstein
Because that's the only way it comes! It's another useless feature buyers get stuck with. BR [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If that is so, how come that customers actually buys the data version?

Re: Complaints

2003-03-25 Thread Kenneth Waller
I had no choice when I picked up my MZ-S, AFAIK there is no other back for that camera. IMHO, the date backs, recently available from, Pentax are really useless on camera of this level (PZ1, PZ1P, MZ-S etc.) If you want to date stamp a photo buy a good point and shoot. An excellent data back was

Re: Kodak High Definition 400 speed film?

2003-03-25 Thread Steve Pearson
Yes, it is a print film. Yes, it is now labeled as High Defintion. I think it is just Royal Gold re-named... --- Keith Whaley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is that what it's called? A print film? keith whaley Steve Pearson wrote: Guys at my local camera store say this is a fairly new

Re: CAVE Academy Award: Re: Complaints

2003-03-25 Thread Mark Roberts
Kenneth Waller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yeah, you coild say its DATED. Well, that was a pretty week pun... :-P Kenneth Waller - Original Message - From: Chris Brogden [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, March 25, 2003 1:38 PM Subject: Re: CAVE Academy Award: Re:

Re: Complaints

2003-03-25 Thread Bill Owens
Makes the image much neater w/o the red or yellow time/date stamp on it! Bill - Original Message - From: Raimo Korhonen [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, March 25, 2003 4:14 PM Subject: Vs: Complaints So how does it affect the image if it´s off? All the best!

Re: Complaints

2003-03-25 Thread Roland Mabo
Not really, no. Most SLR's can be bought with or without data back. Haven't I said this already? Best wishes, Roland From: Bruce Rubenstein [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Complaints Date: Tue, 25 Mar 2003 17:35:27 -0500 Because that's the only way

OT: Spot attachment for the Minolta IVF meter

2003-03-25 Thread Butch Black
Hi; All this meter talk brought up an old question for me. Does anyone have any experience with the 5 degree spot attachment for the Minolta IVF meter. Is it useful as a spot meter? How well does it work compared to a dedicated spot meter? BUTCH Each man had only one genuine vocation - to find

Re: A Real hand meter

2003-03-25 Thread T Rittenhouse
But my camera don't have a built in meter G. Ciao, Graywolf http://pages.prodigy.net/graywolfphoto - Original Message - From: Bill Lawlor [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, March 25, 2003 4:50 PM Subject: Re: A Real hand meter Incident meters measure the light

Re: Hand Meters

2003-03-25 Thread Paul Stenquist
True. I've found that guide numbers are usually optimistic. If you're shooting transparency film, they are generally not sufficiently accurate. Paul Bruce Rubenstein wrote: You can work with one, maybe two lights like this. When working with more than that (lighting a room can easily use 6 -

Re: Complaints

2003-03-25 Thread Roland Mabo
The MZ-S comes with a data back, but other Pentax models can be bought with or without - except for the *ist. The MZ-S is a special case, I believe it's the databack that does the exposure data imprinting between the film frames, and when they put this in the camera - I believe they thought

Re: Kodak High Definition 400 speed film?

2003-03-25 Thread Alan Chan
Kodak seemed to have the habit of keep relabeling their films. regards, Alan Chan Yes, it is a print film. Yes, it is now labeled as High Defintion. I think it is just Royal Gold re-named... _ The new MSN 8: advanced junk mail

Re: How are these Tokina lenses?

2003-03-25 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: Tonghang Zhou Subject: How are these Tokina lenses? Any one had experience with these two lenses? 1. 24-40 F2.8 TOKINA AT-X A (72) Good build, consistent with Tokina, very sharp, nice contrast and flare control, but lots of barrel distortion. I had

Technical Pan OT

2003-03-25 Thread brooksdj
Hi all. My darkroom instructor suggested i try a roll of TP.A lot of my BW stuff is rural,old farms etc and he suggested it would be a good film to try as it can be shot at a low speed and obtain good clear prints. I shot one about 2.5

Re: Complaints

2003-03-25 Thread Thomas Heide Clausen
I feel a counter-opinion is required :) Actually, I appreciate the date back on the MZ-S. I use it rarely, however it is quite handy at times. Since my work involves lots of travelling, and since I always bring a camera along, I usually use the date-function to keep track on where I was when:

Re: Complaints

2003-03-25 Thread T Rittenhouse
Well, I hate those built in flash units. I have no use for 90% of the things folks on this list just love. I understand that date backs are very popular in Japan. Here we are lined up in the mall we visited on 13 September 1994. And here we are lined up in front of the Lion cage at the zoo on 1

Re: A Real hand meter

2003-03-25 Thread Keith Whaley
Bill Lawlor wrote: Incident meters measure the light falling on the meter cell. Pedantically speaking, incident meters measure light falling on an attached hemispherical (dome-shaped) plastic insert, which the cell then reads. Sorry, but this is true. The light from the sky never falls on

Re: Hand Meters

2003-03-25 Thread Paul Stenquist
Steve Desjardins wrote: Why,however, does this imply that a reflected light reading can be prone to huge inaccuracies, but the incident sensor is not? Quite simply because the reflected light reading is dependent on the reflectivity of the object being photographed. The incident reading,

How are these Tokina lenses?

2003-03-25 Thread Tonghang Zhou
Any one had experience with these two lenses? 1. 24-40 F2.8 TOKINA AT-X A (72) 2. 28-70 F2.8 TOKINA ATX AUTO FOCUS (72) How good are these compared to Pentax lenses's optics or build? The speed of 2.8 is quite appealing. Thanks, Tonghang

Re: Hand Meters

2003-03-25 Thread Bruce Rubenstein
Get one that does flash metering too. It's not always possible to see how flash is lighting something, but if you take multiple meter readings you can get an idea of how it will look. BR [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Of course, I still think I'll buy one that does both . . .

Re: Complaints

2003-03-25 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: Roland Mabo Subject: Re: Complaints Not really, no. Most SLR's can be bought with or without data back. Haven't I said this already? Depending on the country you are buying in, you may get the choice, you also may not. If the camera you want is on the pick

Re: Hand Meters

2003-03-25 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: Paul Stenquist Subject: Re: Hand Meters True. I've found that guide numbers are usually optimistic. If you're shooting transparency film, they are generally not sufficiently accurate. If you are going to use GN for flash calculation, you need a flash meter

OT: Power Thread - Battery Packs

2003-03-25 Thread David Chang-Sang
Hi folks... In my quest for maintaining constant power to my numerous flashes (Metz and Vivitar) I'm curious to find out if any of you out there are using any Quantum Battery Packs. If you are, how do you like them? Which type are you using? As the spring and wedding season approach I know

Re: Hand Meters

2003-03-25 Thread Paul Stenquist
I think that what you're saying is correct for unusual circumstances like those you mention: A sunset, light reflecting on water, extreme backlighting. For those situations, I too use a spotmeter and pick the spot that I want to be 18% reflectivity or the equivelant of gray. But for average

Re: Pentax Teleconverters

2003-03-25 Thread Mark Roberts
Fred [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have the Pentax 1.7x AF converter and the two Sigma teleconverters (1.4x and 2x) that they make for their big glass (300/2.8, 500/4.5 and 800/5.6). Mark, are these Sigma TC's autofocus TC's, or manual focus (only) TC's. And, do the Sigma TC's have the

Re: Good news and bad news

2003-03-25 Thread Cotty
This post underscores and boldfaces the true extent of this list. I had read about a British ITV journalist being killed in Iraq and felt that it's a real shame that anyone has to die in these conflicts. Now I learn that someone I've come to know on this list over the past two years or so had

OT: Crumpler bags

2003-03-25 Thread Cotty
I was filming a peace demo in Oxford recently and happened across a photographer from the Oxford Times. He was carrying a Crumpler bag and I was impressed with the styling and looks. Didn't have long to chat, and certainly didn't get time to ask about the Crumpler - any listers have any experience

Re: OT: Camera Part Identification

2003-03-25 Thread Cotty
In the movie Galaxy Quest, Dr. Lazarus carries this locator thingie when on the planet. The hood looks like a Bronica ETR single-action flip-up waist-level hood. Is that correct? Collin, you are the saddest poor little wretch I have ever read upon this list! Is this the best you can come up with

Re: More on incident metering

2003-03-25 Thread Bob Walkden
Hi, Tuesday, March 25, 2003, 10:05:52 PM, you wrote: In December I saw War Photographer, a doc about the life and work or famed PJ James Nachtweny. He was shooting in Bosnia , Rwanda, and Indonesia using a Canon EOS. He uses Tri-X for most shots. Despite the sophisticated EOS metering and

Re: Technical Pan OT

2003-03-25 Thread Nick Zentena
On March 25, 2003 05:08 am, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Any thoughts or comments before i possible waste some developing time. BTW it's rated it at 50 with just a standard uv filter for the test. I forget but isn't that way too fast for Techpan? Nick

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