Re: PESO - spider from the window

2006-10-09 Thread Charles Robinson
On Oct 8, 2006, at 18:58, Bruce Dayton wrote: Wow, I was expecting to see a lot more web and a lot less spider. Not too bad with the circumstances. Handholding with that a short of DOF is quite difficult. Way cooler than mine - all web and NO spider - but I kinda like mine anyways, if

Re: k10d and manual-aperture lenses?

2006-10-09 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: J. C. O'Connell Subject: RE: k10d and manual-aperture lenses? Give it up will you? Locked exposure settings is manual By any standard. If you have to push a button everytime to Get the correct exposure its not AUTOmatic. Your playing The semantics game

Re: k10d and manual-aperture lenses?

2006-10-09 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: J. C. O'Connell Subject: RE: k10d and manual-aperture lenses? Wrong, you simply do not understand the situation. Its a Totally different story. Canon went to a new mount for TECHNICAL IMPROVEMENTS. Pentax has not gone to a new mount at all for any

Re: HDR (High Dynamic Range) in Photo Shop CS2

2006-10-09 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: Kenneth Waller Subject: HDR (High Dynamic Range) in Photo Shop CS2 Any one on the list have any experience with this feature in PS CS2? Care to share your experiences - good/bad, suggestions. I'm going to try some of this in the coming week on images I

Re: PESO: Harvest Moon

2006-10-09 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: Bob Sullivan Subject: Re: PESO: Harvest Moon Shel, What a stuck-up bunch of elitists we must look like. Put a picture up and we'll tell you where your are failing. Is that why we have PESO's? So we can frighten people off? What lurker is gonna put

Re: k10d and manual-aperture lenses?

2006-10-09 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: Vic MacBournie Subject: Re: k10d and manual-aperture lenses? - Think Minolta users. Life's a compromise and I think you and I did a lot better than those Canon users who had to trade in those gorgeous F1s for an EOS and $50,000 worth of new lenses... I

Re: k10d and manual-aperture lenses?

2006-10-09 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: P. J. Alling Subject: Re: k10d and manual-aperture lenses? I'm not particularly emotional, I do fail to understand why others, seem to see this as a plus. It clearly isn't and it's hard to understand the attitude. Some people are nuts about it however,

Re: PESO -- Half a web...

2006-10-09 Thread Jan van Wijk
On Sun, 08 Oct 2006 21:28:33 -0400, P. J. Alling wrote: I'm not sure if I like this shot, I'm not sure why I'm posting it, I'm not sure what anyones reaction will be... http://www.mindspring.com/~morephotos/PESO_--_halfaweb.html Hmm, the web itself is not bad, but the background is rather

Re: PESO: Harvest Moon

2006-10-09 Thread Jan van Wijk
Hi Shel, Well put! I found that others very often see minor or major flaws in your images that you overlook yourself, and find criticism very helpful in (slowly :-) getting better images ... Regards, JvW On Sun, 8 Oct 2006 18:52:16 -0700, Shel Belinkoff wrote: As for me, a good, straight

Re: PTTL flash metering

2006-10-09 Thread Lawrence Kwan
On Sun, 8 Oct 2006, Thibouille wrote: I know it uses the same system as without flash (wihch is why there is a preflash) but is it influenced by the choice between spot/CW/Matrix ? Can I shoot spot with flash? I also wondered about this. But then I realize AE-L is not supported in current

Ghostless Coating (was: D-Xenogon 35)

2006-10-09 Thread Dario Bonazza
It's a variation of SMC, differently tuned for increasing light transmission at different wawelengths than SMC. It is used on some inner elements where reflections would lead to ghost images. You cannot use ghostless everywhere to replace smc, since you'd get a color cast on the lens, but when

Re: Photokina visit (was: Re: K10 samples)

2006-10-09 Thread Dario Bonazza
OK, now I understand. When you changed your planned visit, I was already unsubscribed and driving to Cologne, hence I couldn't know. Dario - Original Message - From: Jan van Wijk [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Sent: Sunday, October 08, 2006 12:18 PM

Re: k10d and manual-aperture lenses?

2006-10-09 Thread John Forbes
No K or M lens owner sees this as a plus. It is a pity Pentax dropped it. But we don't own or run Pentax. One of the advantages of growing up and becoming an adult is that one learns to take the rough with the smooth, and live with things one can't change. This is a process that JCO has

Re: 300*F4.5

2006-10-09 Thread Sylwester Pietrzyk
On 09.10.2006, at 07:32 , John Francis wrote: Just rumour, at present. We won't know for sure until we see a DA* lens on the shelves (probably around March next year). It is possible we will know that by the end of this year when more detailed info about new lenses is expected. Cheers,

RE: k10d and manual-aperture lenses?

2006-10-09 Thread J. C. O'Connell
Who's losing their minds? Not me. I want a better pentax Product and would be willing to pay enough for them to PROFIT on it. Secondly, this is pentax discuss, not pentax kiss-ass. I don't understand why there's anything wrong about Stating likes and dislikes and desires from Pentax. If they

RE: k10d and manual-aperture lenses?

2006-10-09 Thread J. C. O'Connell
Spotmatics the camera did the metering calculation Too, it told you where to set the shutter dial via A match needle. That's what metering is. Just because The DSLRs set the speed for you one time doesn't make It AE because with AE you can change aperture setting And lighting ( shoot all day ) and

Re: HDR (High Dynamic Range) in Photo Shop CS2

2006-10-09 Thread Jan van Wijk
Hi Kenneth, On Sun, 8 Oct 2006 19:14:42 -0400, Kenneth Waller wrote: Any one on the list have any experience with this feature in PS CS2? Care to share your experiences - good/bad, suggestions. Just started experimenting with this feature about two weeks back, shooting an indoor scene with a

RE: k10d and manual-aperture lenses?

2006-10-09 Thread David Savage
At 03:35 PM 9/10/2006, J. C. O'Connell wrote: Who's losing their minds? Not me. I want a better pentax Product and would be willing to pay enough for them to PROFIT on it. Secondly, this is pentax discuss, not pentax kiss-ass. I don't understand why there's anything wrong about Stating likes and

re: Ebay frustration

2006-10-09 Thread Roman
It's not only Ebay, it's every purchase you make overseas. For instance I bought Tamron 70-300mm for $281 in store here while it's available for $108-$160 in the U.S. Purchasing it through Adorama or BH will make $80-90 postage and packaging. This speaks for itself, although Tamron makes good

RE: k10d and manual-aperture lenses?

2006-10-09 Thread J. C. O'Connell
Go about it. I NEVER do any personal attacks unless Someone personally attacks me first. Youre probably Mistaking my verbal abuse as first strikes when They are not. jco -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David Savage Sent: Monday, October

RE: k10d and manual-aperture lenses?

2006-10-09 Thread J. C. O'Connell
Screw you. You guys accept mediocrity for no reason? WHY? Pentax has supported legacy products whenever Technically economically possible and its certainly technically And economically possible. Its not some fact of life that this situation cant change ( new better higher models WITH full KM

Re: PESO: Duck!

2006-10-09 Thread Shel Belinkoff
It might have been a better pic had you been able to get a shot that showed a pattern amongst the ducks. As it is, it's just a nice snap of a group of ducks Shel Paul Stenquist wrote: http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=5051185size=lg -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List

Re: PESO: Duck!

2006-10-09 Thread mike wilson
Not bad for a webshot. From: P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2006/10/09 Mon AM 02:21:22 GMT To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: PESO: Duck! Yep they're ducks... Paul Stenquist wrote: http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=5051185size=lg --

Re: k10d and manual-aperture lenses?

2006-10-09 Thread mike wilson
From: David Mann [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2006/10/09 Mon AM 04:18:21 GMT To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: k10d and manual-aperture lenses? On Oct 9, 2006, at 10:32 AM, William Robb wrote: You aren't saying anything new. This is pretty much a dead topic.

6x7 Mirror and lense problems

2006-10-09 Thread Kevin Waterson
As luck would have it I found a lovely shot and as I hit the trigger on the cable release the mirror went up, but failed to come back down. I figgled(tm) with it and cannot seem to be able to get it to return into the down position. Another item broken is my 6x7 135mm lens. The focos no longer

Re: 6x7 Mirror and lense problems

2006-10-09 Thread J and K Messervy
Since I'm researching Pentax 6x7s at the moment hoping to buy one...I've read the user manual I found on the web. Apparently if you try to take a shot when the battery hasn't got enough juice left, that can happen. Replace the battery and press the mirror reset button, on the front of the

Re: 6x7 Mirror and lense problems

2006-10-09 Thread Kevin Waterson
thanks, will give that a shot Kind regards Keivn On 10/9/06, J and K Messervy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Since I'm researching Pentax 6x7s at the moment hoping to buy one...I've read the user manual I found on the web. Apparently if you try to take a shot when the battery hasn't got enough

Re: PESO: Duck!

2006-10-09 Thread Paul Stenquist
I told them where I wanted them to stand, but they acted like they didn't eve hear me:-). On Oct 9, 2006, at 4:11 AM, Shel Belinkoff wrote: It might have been a better pic had you been able to get a shot that showed a pattern amongst the ducks. As it is, it's just a nice snap of a group

Re: 6x7 Mirror and lense problems

2006-10-09 Thread Paul Stenquist
Sounds like the battery is dead. Paul On Oct 9, 2006, at 5:07 AM, Kevin Waterson wrote: As luck would have it I found a lovely shot and as I hit the trigger on the cable release the mirror went up, but failed to come back down. I figgled(tm) with it and cannot seem to be able to get it to

Street corner Romeo Julia

2006-10-09 Thread Roman
http://roman.blakout.net/?blog=20060829171511 ^^^ Random shots at the street corner -- home http://roman.blakout.net/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net

Re: k10d and manual-aperture lenses?

2006-10-09 Thread Cotty
On 9/10/06, J. C. O'Connell, discombobulated, unleashed: Go about it. I NEVER do any personal attacks unless Someone personally attacks me first. Youre probably Mistaking my verbal abuse as first strikes when They are not. Thanks for clearing that one up ;-) -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ ||

Re: k10d and manual-aperture lenses?

2006-10-09 Thread Lon Williamson
P. J. Alling has a legitimate gripe, but remember that the K10D is not the flagship. Perhaps the coming flagship, the so called K1D, will finally permit manual/AV with pre-A lenses. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net

Re: k10d and manual-aperture lenses?

2006-10-09 Thread Vic MacBournie
I think we have to give JCO points for being so passionate and not backing down from his position. I think he's argued the point so vehemently that at this point he can't believe most people don't outright agree with him. What he does not seem to realize is that we all agree with him but are

RE: 6x7 Mirror and lense problems

2006-10-09 Thread Paul Ewins
Kevin, I have had excellent service from CR Kennedy in Melbourne with my 6x7s so I would be talking to them about the 135 macro. On the other hand it is just a lens, so any competent repairer should be able to tackle it. Regards, Paul -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: PESO - spider from the window

2006-10-09 Thread Mat Maessen
On 10/9/06, Charles Robinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Oct 8, 2006, at 18:58, Bruce Dayton wrote: Way cooler than mine - all web and NO spider - but I kinda like mine anyways, if you don't mind peeking here: http://charles.robinsontwins.org/2006_Photos/pages/page_64.html I think I like

Re: PESO - spider from the window

2006-10-09 Thread Mat Maessen
On 10/9/06, Ann Sanfedele [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I can't get it to load is it gone again, mat? http://www.matoe.org/gallery2/v/tomatoe/testscans/IMGP0281- Still there, Ann. No idea why you can't load it. :-( -Mat -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net

Re: k10d and manual-aperture lenses? (fwd)

2006-10-09 Thread Cory Papenfuss
But you're a digital newbie. Give it time. It's no big deal. If you can shoot with a Barnack Leica or a Spotmatic, the green button kludge is no big deal. It *is* a bit deal in the following situations: - Available light low: Stopping down drops off the end of the metering

Re: k10d and manual-aperture lenses? (fwd)

2006-10-09 Thread Cory Papenfuss
If you feel that strongly, write a letter to Pentax Japan. I have... multiple times. -Cory -- * * Cory Papenfuss, Ph.D., PPSEL-IA * * Electrical Engineering

Re: k10d and manual-aperture lenses? QUESTION (fwd)

2006-10-09 Thread Cory Papenfuss
Actually, you get matrix metering with A lenses even if using the aperture ring (And pre-A lenses can be modified to support matrix metering) ...which does not appear to work on my -DS. I have followed Mark Robert's matrix metering modification on an old K-mount Sears 135mm f/2.8.

Re: k10d and manual-aperture lenses? QUESTION (fwd)

2006-10-09 Thread Mark Roberts
Cory Papenfuss wrote: I have followed Mark Robert's matrix metering modification on an old K-mount Sears 135mm f/2.8. The camera doesn't care that the identification insulators are there... still stuck in CW metering. That's why my web page has the following note on the lens mod page: It

Re: k10d and manual-aperture lenses? (fwd)

2006-10-09 Thread mike wilson
From: Cory Papenfuss [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2006/10/09 Mon PM 01:45:20 GMT To: pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: k10d and manual-aperture lenses? (fwd) But you're a digital newbie. Give it time. It's no big deal. If you can shoot with a Barnack Leica or a Spotmatic, the green button

Re: k10d and manual-aperture lenses?

2006-10-09 Thread Adam Maas
William Robb wrote: - Original Message - From: Vic MacBournie Subject: Re: k10d and manual-aperture lenses? - Think Minolta users. Life's a compromise and I think you and I did a lot better than those Canon users who had to trade in those gorgeous F1s for an EOS and $50,000

Re: k10d and manual-aperture lenses?

2006-10-09 Thread Adam Maas
That's pretty much it. I'd rather see an aperture simulator, and would even pay a mild price increase for it. But I'm also damned glad that they gave us something, unlike Nikon (Who expects you to buy a $1699 body if you want that). -Adam Who also has a LOT of Nikon gear, mostly AI/AI-S Vic

Re: PESO - spider from the window

2006-10-09 Thread Bruce Dayton
I rather like it, too. Nice shot. I'm curious if you found the web loaded with dew like that or helped it a bit. -- Best regards, Bruce Sunday, October 8, 2006, 11:03:12 PM, you wrote: CR On Oct 8, 2006, at 18:58, Bruce Dayton wrote: Wow, I was expecting to see a lot more web and a lot

Re: k10d and manual-aperture lenses? QUESTION (fwd)

2006-10-09 Thread Cory Papenfuss
On Mon, 9 Oct 2006, Mark Roberts wrote: Cory Papenfuss wrote: I have followed Mark Robert's matrix metering modification on an old K-mount Sears 135mm f/2.8. The camera doesn't care that the identification insulators are there... still stuck in CW metering. That's why my web page

Re: 6x7 Mirror and lense problems

2006-10-09 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: Kevin Waterson Subject: 6x7 Mirror and lense problems As luck would have it I found a lovely shot and as I hit the trigger on the cable release the mirror went up, but failed to come back down. I figgled(tm) with it and cannot seem to be able to get it to

Re: k10d and manual-aperture lenses?

2006-10-09 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: J. C. O'Connell Subject: RE: k10d and manual-aperture lenses? Secondly, this is pentax discuss, not pentax kiss-ass. I don't understand why there's anything wrong about Stating likes and dislikes and desires from Pentax. It's becaue you are a one trick

Re: k10d and manual-aperture lenses? QUESTION (fwd)

2006-10-09 Thread Mark Roberts
Cory Papenfuss wrote: On Mon, 9 Oct 2006, Mark Roberts wrote: Cory Papenfuss wrote: I have followed Mark Robert's matrix metering modification on an old K-mount Sears 135mm f/2.8. The camera doesn't care that the identification insulators are there... still stuck in CW metering.

Way OT

2006-10-09 Thread William Robb
For those of you in the big cities, this is probably a small thing, but Regina managed to persuade the Rolling Stones to play two shows here, one on Friday, the other last night. I went to last nights show. Heck of a good concert. No, I didn't try to smuggle a camera in. William Robb --

RE: k10d and manual-aperture lenses?

2006-10-09 Thread J. C. O'Connell
This is the whole crux of the matter, there shouldn't be any Need to give up PK/PKM PENTAX glass with full lens capability Just because its digital capture. Its totally unrelated. jco -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Vic MacBournie Sent:

Re: k10d and manual-aperture lenses? QUESTION (fwd)

2006-10-09 Thread Cory Papenfuss
No, there's a good reason for it: The matrix metering algorithms need to know not only the maximum aperture of the lens (which it gets from the ID Insulators, but also the actual shooting aperture, which it can determine from the non-linear movement of the diaphragm actuator arm on A

Re: k10d and manual-aperture lenses?

2006-10-09 Thread P. J. Alling
You're not one who I think sees it as a plus. There are a couple of people posting here who seem positively giddy about it whenever the defend Pentax's actions in the matter. William Robb wrote: - Original Message - From: P. J. Alling Subject: Re: k10d and manual-aperture lenses?

RE: k10d and manual-aperture lenses? QUESTION (fwd)

2006-10-09 Thread J. C. O'Connell
I agree with you, there is no reason why the shutter Speed MUST stay locked ( although that should still Remain an option) after taking a reading. But the Easiest and best solution is to just put the cam Sensor back in their because it solves all the AE Issues and avoids stopping down the lens

Re: 300*F4.5

2006-10-09 Thread Peter Jordan
Two have sold on ebay UK in the past two years, both for less than GBP450 (say USD 850). Peter - Original Message - From: David S. [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Sent: Monday, October 09, 2006 6:33 AM Subject: Re: 300*F4.5 Vic MacBournie wrote: Do you

Re: k10d and manual-aperture lenses?

2006-10-09 Thread pnstenquist
I can't imagine that anyone sees the lack of the simulator as a plus. However, I was quite pleased when the firmware was revised to enable the green button. That was a plus. Paul -- Original message -- From: P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED] You're not one who I

Re: PESO: Duck!

2006-10-09 Thread P. J. Alling
You should have tried their native tongue. Paul Stenquist wrote: I told them where I wanted them to stand, but they acted like they didn't eve hear me:-). On Oct 9, 2006, at 4:11 AM, Shel Belinkoff wrote: It might have been a better pic had you been able to get a shot that showed a

The JCO survey

2006-10-09 Thread Lon Williamson
On the offhand chance that Pentax peeks at this list, I propose the following question: How many people here would consider an aperature simulator permitting (for K,M, and all other lenses with aperature rings) CW metering, open aperature metering in manual and AV modes a _highly_ desirable

Re: 300*F4.5

2006-10-09 Thread P. J. Alling
So used lenses are selling for what 99% of their street price new? Ok, so in the UK the new price would be £999.00. So for you guys it's just a bargain. Peter Jordan wrote: Two have sold on ebay UK in the past two years, both for less than GBP450 (say USD 850). Peter - Original

Re: k10d and manual-aperture lenses? QUESTION

2006-10-09 Thread Thibouille
It doesn't work anymore but it is still good to know that it will work AFAIR with all AF bodies supporting matrix except *ist (and K...D) serie (analog and digital). MZ-S/Z1 etc will matrix fine :) -- Thibault Massart aka Thibouille -- *ist-D,Z1,SuperA,KX,MX, P30t and

Re: k10d and manual-aperture lenses? QUESTION (fwd)

2006-10-09 Thread P. J. Alling
On the Ds at least, (I'll check the D later), you have the option of CW and Spot metering with K-M lenses. Not as nice in some circumstances as matrix metering but I most often find myself using CW anyway, at least I have some idea how the meter might be going wrong in difficult lighting,

Re: k10d and manual-aperture lenses?

2006-10-09 Thread Cotty
On 9/10/06, Vic MacBournie, discombobulated, unleashed: I think we have to give JCO points for being so passionate and not backing down from his position. I think he's argued the point so vehemently that at this point he can't believe most people don't outright agree with him. What he does

Re: Way OT

2006-10-09 Thread Cotty
On 9/10/06, William Robb, discombobulated, unleashed: For those of you in the big cities, this is probably a small thing, but Regina managed to persuade the Rolling Stones to play two shows here, one on Friday, the other last night. I went to last nights show. Heck of a good concert. No, I

Re: Street corner Romeo Julia

2006-10-09 Thread P. J. Alling
They don't look happy... Roman wrote: http://roman.blakout.net/?blog=20060829171511 ^^^ Random shots at the street corner -- Things should be made as simple as possible -- but no simpler. --Albert Einstein -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net

Re: The JCO survey

2006-10-09 Thread Bob Sullivan
Aye! On 10/9/06, Dario Bonazza [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: second Dario - Original Message - From: Lon Williamson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Sent: Monday, October 09, 2006 6:01 PM Subject: The JCO survey On the offhand chance that Pentax peeks

Re: PTTL flash metering

2006-10-09 Thread Thibouille
Yeah indeed if AE-L is not implemented it limits the usage. How about CW? Does it work ? 2006/10/9, Lawrence Kwan [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Sun, 8 Oct 2006, Thibouille wrote: I know it uses the same system as without flash (wihch is why there is a preflash) but is it influenced by the choice

Re: k10d and manual-aperture lenses? QUESTION (fwd)

2006-10-09 Thread P. J. Alling
It diaphragm actuator may be linear in the K-M lenses in accordance with diameter, but it doesn't have to be, for the K specification only the simulator has to be accurate since the diaphragm actuator moves it's entire travel distance with each exposure. As long as the aperture stops closing

Re: The JCO survey

2006-10-09 Thread Dario Bonazza
second Dario - Original Message - From: Lon Williamson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Sent: Monday, October 09, 2006 6:01 PM Subject: The JCO survey On the offhand chance that Pentax peeks at this list, I propose the following question: How many

Re: k10d and manual-aperture lenses? QUESTION (fwd)

2006-10-09 Thread Cotty
On 9/10/06, Cory Papenfuss, discombobulated, unleashed: I was too excited to read the fine print Mark. Love it. -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail

Re: The JCO survey

2006-10-09 Thread Shel Belinkoff
Yes, I'd like that very much. Shel - Original Message - From: Lon Williamson [EMAIL PROTECTED] On the offhand chance that Pentax peeks at this list, I propose the following question: How many people here would consider an aperature simulator permitting (for K,M, and all other

Re: The JCO survey

2006-10-09 Thread Boris Liberman
Third. On 10/9/06, Dario Bonazza [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: second -- Boris -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net

Re: The JCO survey

2006-10-09 Thread Ryan Brooks
Boris Liberman wrote: Third. On 10/9/06, Dario Bonazza [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: second Here here. Go ahead and add $100 to the MSRP for this function, Pentax. I guess we're past the only three people care point. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net

Re: The JCO survey

2006-10-09 Thread Scott Loveless
Sign me up. On 10/9/06, Lon Williamson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On the offhand chance that Pentax peeks at this list, I propose the following question: How many people here would consider an aperature simulator permitting (for K,M, and all other lenses with aperature rings) CW metering,

Re: The JCO survey

2006-10-09 Thread P. J. Alling
Of course I want an aperture simulator. Trying to find a normal lens like the M 35mm f2.0 that complements the *ist-D/Ds in size, has a great manual focus feel, and is relatively fast would justify a $100.00 extra on any body they put aperture simulator on. Being able to use either the

The JCO Survey

2006-10-09 Thread jmunro
Add another to the JCO list. JCO RULES! -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net

RE: The JCO Survey

2006-10-09 Thread Shel Belinkoff
What does JCO Rules mean? I've heard this expression a number of time, but never understood it. Rules what? Rules who (or whom?) Shel [Original Message] From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Add another to the JCO list. JCO RULES! -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net

Re: The JCO survey

2006-10-09 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: Lon Williamson Subject: The JCO survey How many people here would consider an aperature simulator permitting (for K,M, and all other lenses with aperature rings) CW metering, open aperature metering in manual and AV modes a _highly_ desirable feature on

Re: The JCO survey

2006-10-09 Thread Thibouille
Of course I would. But I think you knew the result of your opoll didn't you ? :) 2006/10/9, Lon Williamson [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On the offhand chance that Pentax peeks at this list, I propose the following question: How many people here would consider an aperature simulator permitting (for

OT: meeting pdml's in NZ AU

2006-10-09 Thread Bob Sullivan
My wife and I are about 2 weeks away from a 3 week trip to New Zealand and Australia. Your pictures from NZ have convinced me to spend half of my time there, and AU is just too big to get serious about seeing in a short time. I'd be happy to have a beer with anyone who is around. The itinerary

Re: The JCO survey

2006-10-09 Thread Adam Maas
Lon Williamson wrote: On the offhand chance that Pentax peeks at this list, I propose the following question: How many people here would consider an aperature simulator permitting (for K,M, and all other lenses with aperature rings) CW metering, open aperature metering in manual and AV

Re: k10d and manual-aperture lenses?

2006-10-09 Thread Adam Maas
Cotty wrote: On 9/10/06, Vic MacBournie, discombobulated, unleashed: I think we have to give JCO points for being so passionate and not backing down from his position. I think he's argued the point so vehemently that at this point he can't believe most people don't outright agree with

OT: joys and woes of new computer - couple of questions

2006-10-09 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
did a bad thing -- I calibrated my monitor using the custom settings and saved it as Adobe 1998 :( Now I'm getting confused -- For the stock stuff and stuff I want to print, I want the 1998 RGB adobe settings which I have in my camera. Im comfused about what is regulating the screen as opposed

Re: The JCO survey

2006-10-09 Thread pnstenquist
Of course it's desirable, that's a given. Paul -- Original message -- From: William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: Lon Williamson Subject: The JCO survey How many people here would consider an aperature simulator permitting

Re: The JCO survey

2006-10-09 Thread John Francis
On Mon, Oct 09, 2006 at 11:33:41AM -0500, Ryan Brooks wrote: Boris Liberman wrote: Third. On 10/9/06, Dario Bonazza [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: second Here here. Go ahead and add $100 to the MSRP for this function, Pentax. I sure as hell don't want to waste $100 on a

Re: The JCO survey

2006-10-09 Thread Mark Roberts
Perry Pellechia wrote: The real question is how much would you be willing to pay extra for a camera that had the feature. No, the real question is how many camera sales might Pentax lose by not having this feature. It's been several years since the aperture simulator disappeared. They've

Re: The JCO Survey

2006-10-09 Thread Lon Williamson
And if JCO doesn't respond positively to the survey, I, for one, am gonna feel hornswaggled wink. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Add another to the JCO list. JCO RULES! -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net

Re: The JCO survey

2006-10-09 Thread Perry Pellechia
The real question is how much would you be willing to pay extra for a camera that had the feature. If it added less than $100 to the cost and did not effect other features that I want, i.e., SR and SS motor lenses, then I would want it. I am not sure I would pay much more than $100 for full K/M

Re: PESO: Duck!

2006-10-09 Thread pnstenquist
-- Original message -- From: P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED] You should have tried their native tongue. I once tried it in a Chinese restaurant. It was somewhat tough and sinewy. Not a lot unlike chicken tongue. Paul Stenquist wrote: I told them where I

Re: 300*F4.5

2006-10-09 Thread Peter Jordan
What I can't understand is that while AF 35mm lenses are heading up in price, 645 lenses are vanishing through the floor. You can pick up some fantastic bargains now, and when the 645D hits the street, prices will rise again. In the meantime, you get that thrill of looking at 6x4.5

RE: The JCO Survey

2006-10-09 Thread J. C. O'Connell
Hi, I thought I made it very clear I want it would pay more to get it, $100 would be nothing to me for that one. JCO. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lon Williamson Sent: Monday, October 09, 2006 1:11 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List

RE: The JCO survey

2006-10-09 Thread J. C. O'Connell
They have? Your conclusion is based on what? jco -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mark Roberts Sent: Monday, October 09, 2006 1:24 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: The JCO survey Perry Pellechia wrote: The real question is how

RE: The JCO survey

2006-10-09 Thread Tim Øsleby
I agree. BTW: What or who is JCO ;-) Tim Mostly harmless (just plain Norwegian) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lon Williamson Sent: 9. oktober 2006 18:02 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: The JCO survey On the offhand chance

Re: The JCO survey

2006-10-09 Thread P. J. Alling
Seeing as how SR in lens isn't an option and may never be with Pentax, and SS uses the power zoom contacts for power and the digital channel for control both of which were available on the PZ-1p which also had the aperture simulator I expect that to be a non issue. The actual cost of the

Re: The JCO survey

2006-10-09 Thread Jens Bladt
I miss the aperturesimulator too. Not that I use K and M lenses a lot. But isn't a mechanical thing, that transferes the info anout the lens aperture setting to the camera - a thing of the past. IMO it's not very likely that Pentax will make the cameras more expensive in order to accomodate a few

RE: The JCO survey

2006-10-09 Thread J. C. O'Connell
Millions of these TOP QUALITY PENTAX BRAND PK/PKM Lenes are out there. The age is irrelavant And so is the fact that the coupling is Mechanical, ( so is the DSLR shutter which is Far more complex, so whats your point?) jco -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL

Re: The JCO survey

2006-10-09 Thread Shel Belinkoff
Leica has done something like that. For a few $$ they will upgrade older lenses to work automatically with the digital M. Shel [Original Message] From: Jens Bladt So what we really need is a device that will add the contacts to K- and M-lenses! -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List

GESO: Speaking of Ducks (Gang Rape)

2006-10-09 Thread Jens Bladt
Gang rape - that's what this is! http://www.flickr.com/photos/bladt/sets/72157594320086680/ (sorry if I posted this before) Regards Jens Bladt http://www.jensbladt.dk +45 56 63 77 11 +45 23 43 85 77 Skype: jensbladt248 -Oprindelig meddelelse- Fra: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL

RE: The JCO survey

2006-10-09 Thread J. C. O'Connell
Pentax doesn't even need to do that, a better body Would solve the problem. No mods to lenses are even Necessary for full support on DSLR. jco -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Shel Belinkoff Sent: Monday, October 09, 2006 1:33 PM To:

Re: The JCO survey

2006-10-09 Thread Adam Maas
Shel, The only addition is a set of colour codes on the mount that the camera reads to identify the lens. It pretty much only affects Leica's automatic vignetting compensation feature. The lenses retain all exposure functions on the M8 without it. Essentially you're paying to have a sticker

300*F4.5

2006-10-09 Thread Joseph Tainter
My take is that prices may go even higher, once everyone with a camera older than the K10D realizes that the DA* lenses will not autofocus with their camera. Is that fact or rumor? Dave - Not exactly rumor, more like reasoned engineering analysis. I'm not an engineer, but a discussion

Re: The JCO Survey

2006-10-09 Thread Vic MacBournie
And another On 9-Oct-06, at 12:35 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Add another to the JCO list. JCO RULES! -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net

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