Re: K-5 video question

2013-01-11 Thread Derby Chang
Most excellent read. Thanks Walt It's been 10 years since I've been in LA. The trailer makes me nostalgic. Ah, Dum Dum Girls http://www.imdb.com/rg/s/4/title/tt2292959/#lb-vi4287341849 On 11/01/2013 9:46 AM, Walt wrote: Apparently, if I can come up with a script, I can get Lindsay Lohan.

Re: K-5 video question

2013-01-10 Thread Bruce Walker
Wow. Just wow. Great article, Walt; thanks. On Thu, Jan 10, 2013 at 5:46 PM, Walt wrote: > Apparently, if I can come up with a script, I can get Lindsay Lohan. And > from there, all I need to do is launch a Kickstarter campaign and everything > will fall into place. > > http://www.nytimes.com/2

Re: K-5 video question

2013-01-10 Thread Walt
Apparently, if I can come up with a script, I can get Lindsay Lohan. And from there, all I need to do is launch a Kickstarter campaign and everything will fall into place. http://www.nytimes.com/2013/01/13/magazine/here-is-what-happens-when-you-cast-lindsay-lohan-in-your-movie.html?ref=magazine

Re: K-5 video question

2013-01-10 Thread Mark Roberts
Paul Stenquist wrote: >Much of the sound for motion pictures and high-end commercials is >created in post. Back in the day when budgets of over a million >dollars for a 30 second commercial were fairly common, almost >anything was possible. For anyone interested in this sort of thing a great w

Re: K-5 video question

2013-01-10 Thread Paul Stenquist
Mark is correct of course. Much of the sound for motion pictures and high-end commercials is created in post. Back in the day when budgets of over a million dollars for a 30 second commercial were fairly common, almost anything was possible. This commercial was made on a budget of only 300K, but

Re: K-5 video question

2013-01-10 Thread Steve Cottrell
I thought these resources would be useful to folk wanting to shoot video with a DSLR, and record sound effectively:

Re: K-5 video question

2013-01-10 Thread Matthew Hunt
On Thu, Jan 10, 2013 at 8:06 AM, Mark Roberts wrote: > Keep in mind that Cotty is talking about news video production. For > movies, etc. not only are the chirping birds and passing trucks in > stereo, they're added in post-production with stock recordings and > foley artists. And if you can ide

Re: K-5 video question

2013-01-10 Thread Bruce Walker
On Thu, Jan 10, 2013 at 5:23 AM, Steve Cottrell wrote: > Do Premiere do an 'elements' version? Yes, version 11 is out. And they sell bargain-priced bundles of Ps Elements and Premiere Elements together. -- -bmw -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdm

Re: K-5 video question

2013-01-10 Thread Steve Cottrell
On 10/1/13, Mark Roberts, discombobulated, unleashed: >Keep in mind that Cotty is talking about news video production. For >movies, etc. not only are the chirping birds and passing trucks in >stereo, they're added in post-production with stock recordings and >foley artists. I though I said that ;

Re: K-5 video question

2013-01-10 Thread Walt
On 1/10/2013 7:06 AM, Mark Roberts wrote: Walt wrote: Thanks for all the info, Steve. I do think it's strange that ambient sound isn't usually recorded in stereo. I always just assumed that chirping birds, passing vehicles, etc. were recorded in stereo to give a more life-like feel. Keep in m

Re: K-5 video question

2013-01-10 Thread Walt
It may be a while before I dive into Premier. I figure this is one of those "baby-steps" situations, as I probably need to spend time developing the basic focusing and panning techniques before worrying about post-production. Still, having the capability to produce excellent quality just begs

Re: K-5 video question

2013-01-10 Thread Mark Roberts
Walt wrote: >Thanks for all the info, Steve. > >I do think it's strange that ambient sound isn't usually recorded in >stereo. I always just assumed that chirping birds, passing vehicles, >etc. were recorded in stereo to give a more life-like feel. Keep in mind that Cotty is talking about news v

Re: K-5 video question

2013-01-10 Thread Paul Stenquist
It's quite simple to just have fun shooting video on the K-5. I've done a number of them. I edit on iTunes, which is not as powerful as professional tools but lets you do things like frame by frame positioning, different types of cuts and dissolves, placement and modulation of audio, and more. I

Re: K-5 video question

2013-01-10 Thread Steve Cottrell
BTW, anyone shooting video on a DSLR will find many useful things here: Cheers -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follo

Re: K-5 video question

2013-01-10 Thread Steve Cottrell
On 10/1/13, Walt, discombobulated, unleashed: >It's pretty effective. I mean, I'm suddenly terror-stricken at the >thought of opening Adobe Premier. ;) Do Premiere do an 'elements' version? -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__Broadcast, Corporate, || (O) |Web Video Producion --

Re: K-5 video question

2013-01-10 Thread Steve Cottrell
On 9/1/13, Walt, discombobulated, unleashed: >Based on what you've said, it sounds like work best left to >professionals. That's not to say I won't give it a shot, but man -- it >sure sounds like a lot of work. You can make it as simple or as difficult as you like ;-) The main thing to do is e

Re: K-5 video question

2013-01-09 Thread Walt
It's pretty effective. I mean, I'm suddenly terror-stricken at the thought of opening Adobe Premier. ;) -- Walt On 1/10/2013 12:38 AM, Larry Colen wrote: It seems like the best way for a professional to keep from being overwhelmed by cheap, poorly trained, competition in the creative arts is

Re: K-5 video question

2013-01-09 Thread Larry Colen
On Jan 9, 2013, at 9:17 PM, Walt wrote: > Thanks for all the info, Steve. > > I do think it's strange that ambient sound isn't usually recorded in stereo. > I always just assumed that chirping birds, passing vehicles, etc. were > recorded in stereo to give a more life-like feel. So, that's rea

Re: K-5 video question

2013-01-09 Thread Walt
Thanks for all the info, Steve. I do think it's strange that ambient sound isn't usually recorded in stereo. I always just assumed that chirping birds, passing vehicles, etc. were recorded in stereo to give a more life-like feel. So, that's really interesting to find out. Based on what you'v

Re: K-5 video question

2013-01-09 Thread Boris Liberman
My hat's off, sir. Learned more than a thing or two right now... On 1/9/2013 9:57 PM, Steve Cottrell wrote: On 9/1/13, Walt, discombobulated, unleashed: That does make sense. I was thinking mostly about ambient sound, but I can see why it would be less important in recording speech. Jut an F

Re: K-5 video question

2013-01-09 Thread Steve Cottrell
On 9/1/13, Steve Cottrell, discombobulated, unleashed: >So how do you go about replacing just those? Record the whole thing >again with him speaking? That would be too easy ;-) That should of course read: 'without him speaking' du -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__Broadcast, Corporate, ||

Re: K-5 video question

2013-01-09 Thread Bruce Walker
I really appreciate this video-sound intro, Cotty. Thanks for taking the time to make it so detailed. On Wed, Jan 9, 2013 at 2:57 PM, Steve Cottrell wrote: > On 9/1/13, Walt, discombobulated, unleashed: > >>That does make sense. I was thinking mostly about ambient sound, but I >>can see why it w

Re: K-5 video question

2013-01-09 Thread Steve Cottrell
On 9/1/13, Walt, discombobulated, unleashed: >That does make sense. I was thinking mostly about ambient sound, but I >can see why it would be less important in recording speech. Jut an FYI: In broadcast TV, general atmos (ambient audio) recorded at the same time as the video is shot, is not rec

Re: K-5 video question

2013-01-09 Thread Walt
On 1/9/2013 5:10 AM, Steve Cottrell wrote: Just a word to the wise. Stereo sound recording is not everything you might think it is. Mic placement is much more important - especially where the human voice is concerned. Thanks, Cotty. That does make sense. I was thinking mostly about ambient s

Re: K-5 video question

2013-01-09 Thread Steve Cottrell
Just a word to the wise. Stereo sound recording is not everything you might think it is. Mic placement is much more important - especially where the human voice is concerned. -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__Broadcast, Corporate, || (O) |Web Video Producion -- ___

Re: K-5 video question

2013-01-08 Thread Rob Studdert
On 9 January 2013 13:00, Bruce Walker wrote: > Audio/visual sync'ing is a solved problem: the clapper board. I've > observed DSLR-based filmmaking live, and external mics and recorder > with sync supplied by the clapper board or even a simple hand-clap is > all that's needed to get great results.

Re: K-5 video question

2013-01-08 Thread Walt
On 1/8/2013 7:36 PM, Mark Roberts wrote: Larry Colen wrote: On Jan 8, 2013, at 4:40 PM, Walt wrote: Is producing good quality A/V another huge investment I can't afford, or can it be done reasonably well on a shoestring budget? >From what I've read, if you want "good" sound, invest in a de

Re: K-5 video question

2013-01-08 Thread Bruce Walker
.@gate.net > - > > -Original Message- > From: PDML [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Bruce Walker > Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2013 8:08 PM > To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List > Subject: Re: K-5 video question > > I agree. A Zoom H1 is

Re: K-5 video question

2013-01-08 Thread Mark Roberts
Larry Colen wrote: >On Jan 8, 2013, at 4:40 PM, Walt wrote: >> >> >> Is producing good quality A/V another huge investment I can't afford, or >can it be done reasonably well on a shoestring budget? > >From what I've read, if you want "good" sound, invest in a decent digital >recorder, and use

RE: K-5 video question

2013-01-08 Thread J.C. O'Connell
entax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: K-5 video question I agree. A Zoom H1 is about $100, records onto SD cards, and contains a decent stereo mic pair. On Tue, Jan 8, 2013 at 8:02 PM, Larry Colen wrote: > > On Jan 8, 2013, at 4:40 PM, Walt wrote: >> >> >> Is producing

Re: K-5 video question

2013-01-08 Thread Walt
Thanks, Larry/Bruce. You know, it occurred to me just after I sent that message that I have a good friend going back to my high school days who does video production for a living (and is a pretty damned good photographer to boot). He's offered me the use of his photo gear before (Canon shooter

Re: K-5 video question

2013-01-08 Thread Bruce Walker
I agree. A Zoom H1 is about $100, records onto SD cards, and contains a decent stereo mic pair. On Tue, Jan 8, 2013 at 8:02 PM, Larry Colen wrote: > > On Jan 8, 2013, at 4:40 PM, Walt wrote: >> >> >> Is producing good quality A/V another huge investment I can't afford, or can >> it be done reas

Re: K-5 video question

2013-01-08 Thread Larry Colen
On Jan 8, 2013, at 4:40 PM, Walt wrote: > > > Is producing good quality A/V another huge investment I can't afford, or can > it be done reasonably well on a shoestring budget? >From what I've read, if you want "good" sound, invest in a decent digital >recorder, and use the sound on the camera

K-5 video question

2013-01-08 Thread Walt
So, I'm actually intrigued by the K-5's video capabilities, and like the fact that it has an external mic input for stereo sound. I even went so far as to download Adobe Premier last night, in the event I want to actually do something creative with it. But, I'm curious about how much I can exp