Re: KEH has an A* 135mm f1.8

2013-07-25 Thread Mark C
On 7/22/2013 5:12 PM, P.J. Alling wrote: If you have to ask you can't afford it. On the other hand you might want to ask Mark Cassio, (I hope I got your name right Mark). He had parts custom made to repair his A*200 4.0 IIRC. Close - Cassino, not Cassio... But what's one letter? Yep - Eric

Re: KEH has an A* 135mm f1.8

2013-07-24 Thread Bill
On 23/07/2013 9:42 PM, Walt wrote: On 7/23/2013 6:27 PM, Larry Colen wrote: No Walt, I won't give you my 77ltd so that I have an excuse to by the 85/1.4. I'm glad you didn't have to see me flounce out of the room and slam the door just now. I didn't let having a 77 stop me from buying an A*8

Re: KEH has an A* 135mm f1.8

2013-07-23 Thread Walt
On 7/23/2013 1:30 PM, Bruce Walker wrote: On Tue, Jul 23, 2013 at 1:04 PM, Walt wrote: My buddy and I used to see who could get the quickest start/stop time on the stopwatch function. Of course, that was before we learned to drink for amusement. Mark! Walt, you really _do_ live in a small tow

Re: KEH has an A* 135mm f1.8

2013-07-23 Thread Walt
On 7/23/2013 6:27 PM, Larry Colen wrote: No Walt, I won't give you my 77ltd so that I have an excuse to by the 85/1.4. I'm glad you didn't have to see me flounce out of the room and slam the door just now. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdm

Re: KEH has an A* 135mm f1.8

2013-07-23 Thread Larry Colen
On Tue, Jul 23, 2013 at 02:28:52PM -0400, Bruce Walker wrote: > On Tue, Jul 23, 2013 at 12:55 PM, Larry Colen wrote: > > > > If I'm looking for fast glass in that AoV, I might as well get an > > 85/1.4 on APS as a 135 on 24x36. > > The Rokinon 85/1.4 has been getting good press: > http://slrgear.

Re: KEH has an A* 135mm f1.8

2013-07-23 Thread P.J. Alling
Pretty much everything that's moderately priced these days has a plastic body, and use a lens hood... On 7/23/2013 2:40 PM, Zos Xavius wrote: No SMC though and plastic body. :( On Tue, Jul 23, 2013 at 2:28 PM, Bruce Walker wrote: On Tue, Jul 23, 2013 at 12:55 PM, Larry Colen wrote: If I

Re: KEH has an A* 135mm f1.8

2013-07-23 Thread aggrivatedathotm...@gmail.com
electrolytic??? That should be electronic! I should really really proof read these before I post them. On 7/22/2013 11:20 PM, P.J. Alling wrote: Timex's old mechanical design was an escapement mechanism which wasn't the most accurate, a good copy would give +/- 5 minutes a day, a bad copy mu

Re: KEH has an A* 135mm f1.8

2013-07-23 Thread kwaller
Larry, check out Campmor http://www.campmor.com/ I got my last Ironman watch from them at a very reasonable price. Kenneth Waller http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller - Original Message - From: "Larry Colen" Subject: Re: KEH has an A* 135mm f1.8 On Mon, Jul 2

Re: KEH has an A* 135mm f1.8

2013-07-23 Thread Bruce Walker
I love the metal primes too. Every so often I carefully remove my DA 35/2.8 Ltd Macro from its leather cradle and in my best Gollum voice I say, "My Precious. My Prec--ooo-uu-s!" On Tue, Jul 23, 2013 at 3:11 PM, Zos Xavius wrote: > lol bruce. I'm only being half serious here. I do love me

Re: KEH has an A* 135mm f1.8

2013-07-23 Thread Zos Xavius
lol bruce. I'm only being half serious here. I do love me some metal SMC primes though. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.

Re: KEH has an A* 135mm f1.8

2013-07-23 Thread Bruce Walker
Yeah, but: All my DA* lenses have plastic bodies. Doesn't seem to hurt them. Kirk Tuck is an idiosyncratic dude, but he does portrait work I admire, and he loves this lens. That counts in my world. $249! That's almost free by many folks' standards. :-) On Tue, Jul 23, 2013 at 2:40 PM, Zos Xavi

Re: KEH has an A* 135mm f1.8

2013-07-23 Thread Zos Xavius
No SMC though and plastic body. :( On Tue, Jul 23, 2013 at 2:28 PM, Bruce Walker wrote: > On Tue, Jul 23, 2013 at 12:55 PM, Larry Colen wrote: >> >> If I'm looking for fast glass in that AoV, I might as well get an >> 85/1.4 on APS as a 135 on 24x36. > > The Rokinon 85/1.4 has been getting good

Re: KEH has an A* 135mm f1.8

2013-07-23 Thread Bruce Walker
On Tue, Jul 23, 2013 at 1:04 PM, Walt wrote: > > My buddy and I used to see who could get the quickest start/stop time on the > stopwatch function. Of course, that was before we learned to drink for > amusement. Mark! Walt, you really _do_ live in a small town, don't you? :-) -- -bmw -- PDML

Re: KEH has an A* 135mm f1.8

2013-07-23 Thread Bruce Walker
On Tue, Jul 23, 2013 at 12:55 PM, Larry Colen wrote: > > If I'm looking for fast glass in that AoV, I might as well get an > 85/1.4 on APS as a 135 on 24x36. The Rokinon 85/1.4 has been getting good press: http://slrgear.com/reviews/showproduct.php/product/1577/cat/all Comes in K-mount. It's $24

Re: KEH has an A* 135mm f1.8

2013-07-23 Thread Walt
On 7/23/2013 11:55 AM, Larry Colen wrote: Timex makes, or at least used to, a series of watches branded "Ironman" or somesuch. They had two large buttons on the front and would do a very good job of taking lap times, or sector times. They have been getting progressively harder to find over the y

Re: KEH has an A* 135mm f1.8

2013-07-23 Thread Larry Colen
On Mon, Jul 22, 2013 at 10:22:03PM -0400, John wrote: > Never cared for either Rolex or Timex. The former is too expensive & > the latter is too cheap (in all the various definitions of the > word). I'll stick with the Swiss Army Watch (actual Victorinox) that > I've worn for the last 30 years. Ti

Re: KEH has an A* 135mm f1.8

2013-07-23 Thread Bob W
> times that amount I could get a highly recommended system that I >>> honestly couldn't hear the difference in sound quality. >>> >>> >>> Kenneth Waller http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller >>> >>> - Original Message -

Re: KEH has an A* 135mm f1.8

2013-07-22 Thread J.C. O'Connell
macro with working distance. Kenneth Waller http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller - Original Message - From: "Darren Addy" To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" Sent: Monday, July 22, 2013 7:24 PM Subject: Re: KEH has an A* 135mm f1.8 Kenneth Waller but can

Re: KEH has an A* 135mm f1.8

2013-07-22 Thread P.J. Alling
or more than the A* 135 because of its unique function - macro with working distance. Kenneth Waller http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller - Original Message - From: "Darren Addy" To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" Sent: Monday, July 22, 2013 7:24 PM Subject: Re:

Re: KEH has an A* 135mm f1.8

2013-07-22 Thread P.J. Alling
ation I'd have to say its worth as much or more than the A* 135 because of its unique function - macro with working distance. Kenneth Waller http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller - Original Message - From: "Darren Addy" To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List"

Re: KEH has an A* 135mm f1.8

2013-07-22 Thread P.J. Alling
much or more than the A* 135 because of its unique function - macro with working distance. Kenneth Waller http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller - Original Message - From: "Darren Addy" To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" Sent: Monday, July 22, 2013 7:24 PM Subject

Re: KEH has an A* 135mm f1.8

2013-07-22 Thread P.J. Alling
Timex's old mechanical design was an escapement mechanism which wasn't the most accurate, a good copy would give +/- 5 minutes a day, a bad copy much worse, however they were rugged as all get out. Timex today doesn't make any mechanical watches at all, and really current day electrolytic watc

Re: KEH has an A* 135mm f1.8

2013-07-22 Thread P.J. Alling
ww.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller - Original Message - From: "Darren Addy" Subject: Re: KEH has an A* 135mm f1.8 Similar discussion for Rolex vs Timex. Mostly similar reasons for owning both the Rolex and the A* 135mm f1.8. On Mon, Jul 22, 2013 at 1:46 PM, Bill w

Re: KEH has an A* 135mm f1.8

2013-07-22 Thread Kenneth Waller
Not really, everyone has a price. -Original Message- >From: John >Subject: Re: KEH has an A* 135mm f1.8 > >So you didn't care what it's worth, you just wanted to rub it in. > >On 7/22/2013 6:33 PM, Kenneth Waller wrote: >> Ah, but I can ask because I ha

Re: KEH has an A* 135mm f1.8

2013-07-22 Thread Darren Addy
aw I was shooting Pentax. When I did get it and >>>>> went to another of his workshop he had to borrow and examine it as he had >>>>> heard it was equal to or better than the Nikon 200 macro he was using. >>>>> Quite >>>>> a recommendation I'd say. &

Re: KEH has an A* 135mm f1.8

2013-07-22 Thread Zos Xavius
ard it was equal to or better than the Nikon 200 macro he was using. >>>> Quite >>>> a recommendation I'd say. >>>> >>>> In my estimation I'd have to say its worth as much or more than the A* 135 >>>> because of its unique function - macro with working

Re: KEH has an A* 135mm f1.8

2013-07-22 Thread John
So you didn't care what it's worth, you just wanted to rub it in. On 7/22/2013 6:33 PM, Kenneth Waller wrote: Ah, but I can ask because I have one, bought around 15 years ago for $800usd. -Original Message- From: "P.J. Alling" Subject: Re: KEH has an A* 135mm f1.8

Re: KEH has an A* 135mm f1.8

2013-07-22 Thread John
sounding system but for many times that amount I could get a highly recommended system that I honestly couldn't hear the difference in sound quality. Kenneth Waller http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller - Original Message - From: "Darren Addy" Subject: Re:

Re: KEH has an A* 135mm f1.8

2013-07-22 Thread John
Never cared for either Rolex or Timex. The former is too expensive & the latter is too cheap (in all the various definitions of the word). I'll stick with the Swiss Army Watch (actual Victorinox) that I've worn for the last 30 years. And the days when I lusted after the A* 135mm f/1.8 are past

Re: KEH has an A* 135mm f1.8

2013-07-22 Thread Bob Sullivan
orth as much or more than the A* 135 >>> because of its unique function - macro with working distance. >>> >>> >>> Kenneth Waller >>> http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller >>> >>> >>> - Original Message - From:

Re: KEH has an A* 135mm f1.8

2013-07-22 Thread Zos Xavius
mation I'd have to say its worth as much or more than the A* 135 >>> because of its unique function - macro with working distance. >>> >>> >>> Kenneth Waller >>> http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller >>> >>> >>

Re: KEH has an A* 135mm f1.8

2013-07-22 Thread Darren Addy
gt; Kenneth Waller >> http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller >> >> >> - Original Message - From: "Darren Addy" >> To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" >> Sent: Monday, July 22, 2013 7:24 PM >> >> Subject: Re: KEH

Re: KEH has an A* 135mm f1.8

2013-07-22 Thread Zos Xavius
as much or more than the A* 135 > because of its unique function - macro with working distance. > > > Kenneth Waller > http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller > > > - Original Message ----- From: "Darren Addy" > To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List

Re: KEH has an A* 135mm f1.8

2013-07-22 Thread kwaller
Addy" To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" Sent: Monday, July 22, 2013 7:24 PM Subject: Re: KEH has an A* 135mm f1.8 Kenneth Waller but can the 1.8 be that much better than a 2.8? On Mon, Jul 22, 2013 at 5:33 PM, Kenneth Waller wrote: Ah, but I can ask because I have one, bought arou

Re: KEH has an A* 135mm f1.8

2013-07-22 Thread kwaller
quot;Bruce Walker" Subject: Re: KEH has an A* 135mm f1.8 Well, your A* 135mm f1.8 is _really_ old, pre-dates digital, and is missing that new lens smell. Plus it will certainly be suffering from random subatomic perturbations -- they all do eventually. I'll take it off your hands fo

Re: KEH has an A* 135mm f1.8

2013-07-22 Thread Rob Studdert
On 23 July 2013 05:25, P.J. Alling wrote: > On an APS-C camera it's like having a 200mm f1.8 for focusing and a 200mm > f2.8 as far as DOF is concerned at any particular distance, when compared to > a Full Frame camera. If it lives up to it's reputation, for optical > quality, it will out perform

Re: KEH has an A* 135mm f1.8

2013-07-22 Thread Bruce Walker
at 6:33 PM, Kenneth Waller wrote: > Ah, but I can ask because I have one, bought around 15 years ago for $800usd. > > -Original Message- >>From: "P.J. Alling" >>Subject: Re: KEH has an A* 135mm f1.8 >> >>If you have to ask you can't afford it

Re: KEH has an A* 135mm f1.8

2013-07-22 Thread Darren Addy
Kenneth Waller > but can the 1.8 be that much better than a 2.8? On Mon, Jul 22, 2013 at 5:33 PM, Kenneth Waller wrote: > Ah, but I can ask because I have one, bought around 15 years ago for $800usd. Then we must look to you to answer your own question. (I'm interested in the answer). : ) -- "

Re: KEH has an A* 135mm f1.8

2013-07-22 Thread Kenneth Waller
Ah, but I can ask because I have one, bought around 15 years ago for $800usd. -Original Message- >From: "P.J. Alling" >Subject: Re: KEH has an A* 135mm f1.8 > >If you have to ask you can't afford it. > >On the other hand you might want to ask Mark Cassio

Re: KEH has an A* 135mm f1.8

2013-07-22 Thread P.J. Alling
an unlimited pot of money, I'd buy it. On 7/22/2013 2:38 PM, kwal...@peoplepc.com wrote: Can it really be worth $2569 ? Kenneth Waller http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller - Original Message ----- From: "Darren Addy" Subject: KEH has an A* 135mm f1.8 If

Re: KEH has an A* 135mm f1.8

2013-07-22 Thread Bob W
hly recommended system that I honestly couldn't hear the > difference in sound quality. > > > Kenneth Waller > http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller > > - Original Message - From: "Darren Addy" > Subject: Re: KEH has an A* 135mm f1.8 >

Re: KEH has an A* 135mm f1.8

2013-07-22 Thread kwaller
times that amount I could get a highly recommended system that I honestly couldn't hear the difference in sound quality. Kenneth Waller http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller - Original Message - From: "Darren Addy" Subject: Re: KEH has an A* 135mm f1.8 Sim

Re: KEH has an A* 135mm f1.8

2013-07-22 Thread kwaller
aller - Original Message - From: "Darren Addy" Subject: Re: KEH has an A* 135mm f1.8 Agree with P.J. An argument could probably be made for the fact that it isn't going to sell for LESS in the future, so from that standpoint could be looked at as an investment. If and when Pen

Re: KEH has an A* 135mm f1.8

2013-07-22 Thread Zos Xavius
>>> >>> Kenneth Waller >>> http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller >>> >>> - Original Message - From: "Darren Addy" >>> Subject: KEH has an A* 135mm f1.8 >>> >>> >>>> If anyone is interested. >

Re: KEH has an A* 135mm f1.8

2013-07-22 Thread P.J. Alling
r http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller - Original Message ----- From: "Darren Addy" Subject: KEH has an A* 135mm f1.8 If anyone is interested. http://www.keh.com/camera/Pentax-Manual-Focus-Fixed-Focal-Length-Lenses/1/sku-PK06009016184N?r=FE -- "Photography is a Basta

Re: KEH has an A* 135mm f1.8

2013-07-22 Thread Darren Addy
>>>> Can it really be worth $2569 ? >>>> >>>> Kenneth Waller >>>> http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller >>>> >>>> - Original Message - From: "Darren Addy" >>>> Subject: KEH

Re: KEH has an A* 135mm f1.8

2013-07-22 Thread Darren Addy
/2013 2:38 PM, kwal...@peoplepc.com wrote: >>> >>> Can it really be worth $2569 ? >>> >>> Kenneth Waller >>> http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller >>> >>> - Original Message - From: "Darren Addy" >>>

Re: KEH has an A* 135mm f1.8

2013-07-22 Thread Darren Addy
t; buy it. > > > On 7/22/2013 2:38 PM, kwal...@peoplepc.com wrote: >> >> Can it really be worth $2569 ? >> >> Kenneth Waller >> http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller >> >> - Original Message - From: "Darren Addy" >

Re: KEH has an A* 135mm f1.8

2013-07-22 Thread P.J. Alling
hotogallery.com/kennethwaller - Original Message - From: "Darren Addy" Subject: KEH has an A* 135mm f1.8 If anyone is interested. http://www.keh.com/camera/Pentax-Manual-Focus-Fixed-Focal-Length-Lenses/1/sku-PK06009016184N?r=FE -- "Photography is a Bastard left by

Re: KEH has an A* 135mm f1.8

2013-07-22 Thread Darren Addy
Similar discussion for Rolex vs Timex. Mostly similar reasons for owning both the Rolex and the A* 135mm f1.8. On Mon, Jul 22, 2013 at 1:46 PM, Bill wrote: > On 22/07/2013 12:38 PM, kwal...@peoplepc.com wrote: >> >> Can it really be worth $2569 ? >> > Save yourself $2400.00 and go for the f/2.8.

Re: KEH has an A* 135mm f1.8

2013-07-22 Thread Bill
On 22/07/2013 12:38 PM, kwal...@peoplepc.com wrote: Can it really be worth $2569 ? Save yourself $2400.00 and go for the f/2.8. bill -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly abov

Re: KEH has an A* 135mm f1.8

2013-07-22 Thread kwaller
Can it really be worth $2569 ? Kenneth Waller http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller - Original Message - From: "Darren Addy" Subject: KEH has an A* 135mm f1.8 If anyone is interested. http://www.keh.com/camera/Pentax-Manual-Focus-Fixed-Focal-Length-Le

KEH has an A* 135mm f1.8

2013-07-22 Thread Darren Addy
If anyone is interested. http://www.keh.com/camera/Pentax-Manual-Focus-Fixed-Focal-Length-Lenses/1/sku-PK06009016184N?r=FE -- "Photography is a Bastard left by Science on the Doorstep of Art" - Peter Galassi -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdm