RE: OT: airlines (was Re: Message from Henry Posner, Part I)

2010-02-08 Thread mike wilson
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Re: OT: airlines (was Re: Message from Henry Posner, Part I)

2010-02-08 Thread Adam Maas
On Sun, Feb 7, 2010 at 7:04 PM, Doug Franklin jehosep...@mindspring.com wrote: On 2010-02-07 16:59, mike wilson wrote: I've had a pilot (Aeroflot) start his takeoff accelleration during the turn onto the runway. Until you've felt the tyres of an airliner scrubbing sideways, you haven't

Re: Message from Henry Posner, Part I

2010-02-07 Thread Boris Liberman
On 1/31/2010 9:58 PM, P N Stenquist wrote: @Boris Liberman BH has a small warehouse under our Manhattan store and our main warehouse is in Brooklyn. We're working on a program to distinguish store stock from Brooklyn warehouse stock for our web site. Any store customer who wants to buy an item

Re: Message from Henry Posner, Part I

2010-02-07 Thread paul stenquist
I'll pass it along Boris. Best, Paul On Feb 7, 2010, at 4:51 AM, Boris Liberman wrote: On 1/31/2010 9:58 PM, P N Stenquist wrote: @Boris Liberman BH has a small warehouse under our Manhattan store and our main warehouse is in Brooklyn. We're working on a program to distinguish store stock

Re: J. Peterman, hire this man (was Re: Message from Henry Posner, Part I)

2010-02-07 Thread mike wilson
Thomas Cakalic wrote: OK... make it 4 meters. Most meters aren't very big. Let's make it metres. On Fri, Feb 5, 2010 at 2:54 PM, Thomas Cakalic caka...@gmail.com wrote: There's an image forming in my mind of Regina, a windswept town on the frozen tundra of Canada, miles from the nearest

Re: OT: airlines (was Re: Message from Henry Posner, Part I)

2010-02-07 Thread mike wilson
Stan Halpin wrote: I am still not convinced that the pilot didn't take off from the taxiway to avoid wasting time by going all the way out to the runway. I've had a pilot (Aeroflot) start his takeoff accelleration during the turn onto the runway. Until you've felt the tyres of an

Re: OT: airlines (was Re: Message from Henry Posner, Part I)

2010-02-07 Thread Mark Roberts
mike wilson wrote: Stan Halpin wrote: I am still not convinced that the pilot didn't take off from the taxiway to avoid wasting time by going all the way out to the runway. I've had a pilot (Aeroflot) start his takeoff accelleration during the turn onto the runway. Until you've felt

Re: OT: airlines (was Re: Message from Henry Posner, Part I)

2010-02-07 Thread John Francis
On Sun, Feb 07, 2010 at 09:59:36PM +, mike wilson wrote: Stan Halpin wrote: I am still not convinced that the pilot didn't take off from the taxiway to avoid wasting time by going all the way out to the runway. I've had a pilot (Aeroflot) start his takeoff accelleration during

Re: OT: airlines (was Re: Message from Henry Posner, Part I)

2010-02-07 Thread John Francis
On Sun, Feb 07, 2010 at 05:12:08PM -0500, Mark Roberts wrote: mike wilson wrote: Stan Halpin wrote: I am still not convinced that the pilot didn't take off from the taxiway to avoid wasting time by going all the way out to the runway. I've had a pilot (Aeroflot) start his

Re: OT: airlines (was Re: Message from Henry Posner, Part I)

2010-02-07 Thread Ken Waller
I was told a long time ago by a pilot that this manuever was'forbidden' by FAA rules. Kenneth Waller http://www.tinyurl.com/272u2f - Original Message - From: John Francis jo...@panix.com Subject: Re: OT: airlines (was Re: Message from Henry Posner, Part I) On Sun, Feb 07, 2010

RE: OT: airlines (was Re: Message from Henry Posner, Part I)

2010-02-07 Thread Bob W
I am still not convinced that the pilot didn't take off from the taxiway to avoid wasting time by going all the way out to the runway. I've had a pilot (Aeroflot) start his takeoff accelleration during the turn onto the runway. Until you've felt the tyres of an airliner

Re: OT: airlines (was Re: Message from Henry Posner, Part I)

2010-02-07 Thread Doug Franklin
On 2010-02-07 16:59, mike wilson wrote: I've had a pilot (Aeroflot) start his takeoff accelleration during the turn onto the runway. Until you've felt the tyres of an airliner scrubbing sideways, you haven't lived. I had a Delta pilot do that years ago, leaving Ft. Lauderdale. The air

Re: OT: airlines (was Re: Message from Henry Posner, Part I)

2010-02-07 Thread Larry Colen
On Feb 7, 2010, at 4:04 PM, Doug Franklin wrote: On 2010-02-07 16:59, mike wilson wrote: I've had a pilot (Aeroflot) start his takeoff accelleration during the turn onto the runway. Until you've felt the tyres of an airliner scrubbing sideways, you haven't lived. I had a Delta pilot

RE: OT: airlines (was Re: Message from Henry Posner, Part I)

2010-02-07 Thread John Coyle
Subject: Re: OT: airlines (was Re: Message from Henry Posner, Part I) Don't know how I stumbled onto this a few weeks ago, but I did: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OtnL4KYVtDE That's Hong Kong for you. Just enough runway to operate a Jumbo, and mountains that prevent a traditional straight

Re: OT: airlines (was Re: Message from Henry Posner, Part I)

2010-02-07 Thread Anthony Farr
This Russian pilot must have wished he had a taxiway entrance at the runway's end for a little extra takeoff run: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UZGXwbPfwQs He backtracked all the way down the runway, and still almost ran out of tarmac. regards, Anthony   Of what use is lens and light to

Re: OT: airlines (was Re: Message from Henry Posner, Part I)

2010-02-07 Thread Stan Halpin
'Tis amazing to me how airports attract videographers. On an earlier excursion into YouTube I saw a number of shots of planes landing on the (constrained) runway in Sint Maarteen. [A Dutch/French island in the Caribbean.] Fortunately this was after I had flown in and out of that airport. There

Re: J. Peterman, hire this man (was Re: Message from Henry Posner, Part I)

2010-02-06 Thread David J Brooks
Not enough wood in Saskatchewan t build 2 story shops. Other than that, good job.:-) Dave On Fri, Feb 5, 2010 at 1:40 PM, Derby Chang der...@iinet.net.au wrote: Bob Sullivan wrote: There's an image forming in my mind of Regina, a windswept town on the frozen tundra of Canada, miles from the

Re: J. Peterman, hire this man (was Re: Message from Henry Posner, Part I)

2010-02-06 Thread Bran Everseeking
On Sat, 06 Feb 2010 04:40:38 -0500 David J Brooks pentko...@gmail.com wrote: Not enough wood in Saskatchewan t build 2 story shops. Other than that, good job.:-) Regina used to be called Pile o' Bones. used those for the shop. Up north in Saskatoon we had to fight off the beavers. -- Love

Re: OT: airlines (was Re: Message from Henry Posner, Part I)

2010-02-06 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: Tom C Subject: Re: OT: airlines (was Re: Message from Henry Posner, Part I) Example - what if I bring my camera to the local camera store in Regina, SK. I tell them I can't get the histogram to display properly and the camera picks it own focus point

Re: OT: airlines (was Re: Message from Henry Posner, Part I)

2010-02-06 Thread AlunFoto
2010/2/6 Stan Halpin s...@stans-photography.info: [eloquence snipped] Air travel may be frustrating, but the airlines still have a lot of good service-oriented people working for them who try and make the experience as painless as possible. That's just _so_ true. Most of my travels are to

Re: OT: airlines (was Re: Message from Henry Posner, Part I)

2010-02-06 Thread AlunFoto
2010/2/6 John Francis jo...@panix.com: I must admit I've stretched the rules myself - my Pelican 1510 case qualifies as a carry-on on most airlines, and I regularly flew with that and my computer bag. While technically within the rules, it does push them to the extremes. But I'm not

Re: OT: airlines (was Re: Message from Henry Posner, Part I)

2010-02-06 Thread P. J. Alling
On 2/6/2010 6:54 AM, William Robb wrote: - Original Message - From: Tom C Subject: Re: OT: airlines (was Re: Message from Henry Posner, Part I) Example - what if I bring my camera to the local camera store in Regina, SK. I tell them I can't get the histogram to display properly

Re: OT: airlines (was Re: Message from Henry Posner, Part I)

2010-02-06 Thread Tom C
On Sat, Feb 6, 2010 at 4:54 AM, William Robb war...@gmail.com wrote: Example - what if I bring my camera to the local camera store in Regina, SK.  I tell them I can't get the histogram to display properly and the camera picks it own focus point.  The tall bald man with the mustache behind the

Re: OT: airlines (was Re: Message from Henry Posner, Part I)

2010-02-06 Thread Tom C
A point that Tom also conveniently ignores, when assigning blame, is that THE AIRLINE has to sell a product people will buy.  As the great American public has consistently demonstrated, they will buy the product at the cheapest price point, no matter what other drawbacks there are.  That

Re: [SPAM] Re: OT: airlines (was Re: Message from Henry Posner, Part I)

2010-02-06 Thread Larry Colen
On Feb 6, 2010, at 3:54 AM, William Robb wrote: You'd actually be called a f#cking little wanker for that. The planned parenthood poster child. We are a little more direct with our language on the praries.. Actually, one of the things that keeps counter sales people busy is showing

Re: [SPAM] Re: OT: airlines (was Re: Message from Henry Posner, Part I)

2010-02-06 Thread Tom C
Mark! Lary Colen wrote: They might be OK for someone that doesn't know their aperture from a hole in the ground... I have to say in a childish way, this is doubly funny. Tom On Sat, Feb 6, 2010 at 12:35 PM, Larry Colen l...@red4est.com wrote: On Feb 6, 2010, at 3:54 AM, William Robb wrote:

Re: OT: airlines (was Re: Message from Henry Posner, Part I)

2010-02-06 Thread John Francis
On Sat, Feb 06, 2010 at 12:03:49PM -0700, Tom C wrote: I have to disagree with that analysis, in part. Of course people want things at the cheapest price point, but they also realize that prices do go up. What people don't want to do is pay an EXTRA fee for something that for the last 60

Re: OT: airlines (was Re: Message from Henry Posner, Part I)

2010-02-06 Thread Tom C
I've long thought that if airlines simply sold seats based upon what it REALLY cost them to fly, instead of giving $100 flights cross-country and charging somestimes an additional $300/$400 to fly the last 150 mile leg of a trip, they'd be better off. On Sat, Feb 6, 2010 at 12:51 PM, John Francis

Re: OT: airlines (was Re: Message from Henry Posner, Part I)

2010-02-06 Thread John Francis
On Sat, Feb 06, 2010 at 12:59:43PM -0700, Tom C wrote: I've long thought that if airlines simply sold seats based upon what it REALLY cost them to fly, instead of giving $100 flights cross-country and charging somestimes an additional $300/$400 to fly the last 150 mile leg of a trip, they'd be

Re: Message from Henry Posner, Part I

2010-02-05 Thread Anthony Farr
After ploughing through this thread I'm drawn to one recurring reference, which is to unprofitable customers. Forgive me for asking, but doesn't the store and not the customer decide what deals will be offered for sale? In that context, then it's the store's responsibility/fault if they offer a

Re: Message from Henry Posner, Part I

2010-02-05 Thread paul stenquist
On Feb 5, 2010, at 4:30 AM, Anthony Farr wrote: After ploughing through this thread I'm drawn to one recurring reference, which is to unprofitable customers. Forgive me for asking, but doesn't the store and not the customer decide what deals will be offered for sale? In that context, then

Re: Message from Henry Posner, Part I

2010-02-05 Thread Doug Franklin
On 2010-02-05 4:30, Anthony Farr wrote: After ploughing through this thread I'm drawn to one recurring reference, which is to unprofitable customers. Forgive me for asking, but doesn't the store and not the customer decide what deals will be offered for sale? First, you're right. Second, I'm

Re: Message from Henry Posner, Part I

2010-02-05 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: paul stenquist Subject: Re: Message from Henry Posner, Part I I'm not Henry and certainly can't speak for BH. But after many years of dealing with them, I would guess the answer would be a firm no. They'll stick by their decision. And that's what I

Re: Message from Henry Posner, Part I

2010-02-05 Thread Mark Roberts
William Robb wrote: I asked you once, I'll ask you again: If you walked into a store to buy a quart of milk and when you get to the counter you are told the price that is clearly marked on the bottle as pr quart is actually per pint, and therefore you will have to pay double, would you do so

Re: Message from Henry Posner, Part I

2010-02-05 Thread Tom C
Well I can state that I will not be purchasing from BH again where I otherwise would have. I have nothing personal against Henry. I don't know him. I agree totally with Stan and Anthony who have reiterated a point I made earlier and then expounded with logical reasoning. In short, this was an

Re: Message from Henry Posner, Part I

2010-02-05 Thread Tom C
Please post Bill, please. Tom C. On Fri, Feb 5, 2010 at 8:45 AM, William Robb war...@gmail.com wrote: - Original Message - From: paul stenquist Subject: Re: Message from Henry Posner, Part I I'm not Henry and certainly can't speak for BH. But after many years of dealing

Re: Message from Henry Posner, Part I

2010-02-05 Thread Tom C
Ugh! :-) I agree that the retailer should not suffer *huge* losses because an item was mismarked, especially in the electronic online ordering scenario where word gets around and they are flooded with orders. On the other hand, being aware of this possibility, any large online retailer who does

Re: Message from Henry Posner, Part I

2010-02-05 Thread Tom C
Message - From: paul stenquist Subject: Re: Message from Henry Posner, Part I I'm not Henry and certainly can't speak for BH. But after many years of dealing with them, I would guess the answer would be a firm no. They'll stick by their decision. And that's what I like about them

Re: Message from Henry Posner, Part I

2010-02-05 Thread Tom C
On Fri, Feb 5, 2010 at 4:30 AM, Anthony Farr farranth...@gmail.com wrote: Also in that context, it's totally out of line for the store to turn around and blame the customer for those losses, the deals didn't have to be offered in the first place. Then, is a customer who hops from one store to

Re: Message from Henry Posner, Part I

2010-02-05 Thread Mark Roberts
Tom C wrote: Ugh! :-) I agree that the retailer should not suffer *huge* losses because an item was mismarked, especially in the electronic online ordering scenario where word gets around and they are flooded with orders. On the other hand, being aware of this possibility, any large online

Re: Message from Henry Posner, Part I

2010-02-05 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: Mark Roberts Subject: Re: Message from Henry Posner, Part I Good idea, but I'm not aware of any software that does so. And, by definition, it could only react *after* a spike existed. It would be tricky to implement, too, because most of the time a spike

Re: Message from Henry Posner, Part I

2010-02-05 Thread Tom C
The thing is, it's not difficult to implement, it's just a matter if doing it. Will it cost money for the online retailer to do it? Yes. Would it potentially save them money if implemented? Likely yes. The online retailers are already reducing overheads and maximizing profits by 1) not usually

Re: Message from Henry Posner, Part I

2010-02-05 Thread George Sinos
Just tagging onto the thread here. Responding in general, not to Marks specifics. I've been following this for a couple of days and what surprises me is the attitude of aha, I caught you, the rules say you have to do this, so there! Because of long standing experience with BH I'm convinced this

Re: Message from Henry Posner, Part I

2010-02-05 Thread Tom C
... also large companies have software that automatically orders and replenishes stock, think of the risk inherent in that. So certainly software of this nature exists. On Fri, Feb 5, 2010 at 10:58 AM, Mark Roberts m...@robertstech.com wrote: Tom C wrote: Ugh! :-) I agree that the retailer

Re: Message from Henry Posner, Part I

2010-02-05 Thread Tom C
You guy with the attitude of the store should eat the cost.  You do understand that that raises the cost of doing business which only raises the price for everyone else, don't you? Does it? Only if the retailer makes it so. On the other hand, the increased sales because you have a happy

Re: Message from Henry Posner, Part I

2010-02-05 Thread Tom C
Those were also my thoughts Bill. The person wouldn't have to find the spikes, simply review the ones reported. I can't say what the transaction volume/min on a given item is... but I can imagine were not talking about something like 50 Pentax K-7's or 10 Nikon D3x's sold per minute. The software

Re: Message from Henry Posner, Part I

2010-02-05 Thread Tom C
Not the selling price of THE item, but across the board in terms of overall markup. On Fri, Feb 5, 2010 at 11:53 AM, Tom C caka...@gmail.com wrote: Those were also my thoughts Bill. The person wouldn't have to find the spikes, simply review the ones reported. I can't say what the transaction

Re: Message from Henry Posner, Part I

2010-02-05 Thread Bob Sullivan
Thanks Mark for putting some sanity back into this thread. Bill wants to argue like this is some 2 dollar item picked off of the store shelf. I think the situation changes with the price of the item and in the virtual store. Regards, Bob S. On Fri, Feb 5, 2010 at 8:04 AM, Mark Roberts

Re: Message from Henry Posner, Part I

2010-02-05 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: George Sinos Subject: Re: Message from Henry Posner, Part I These people raise the cost of doing business which raises prices for all of us. You guy with the attitude of the store should eat the cost. You do understand that that raises the cost

Re: Message from Henry Posner, Part I

2010-02-05 Thread Tom C
The principle is the same. We were not talking about massive high volume sales where the retailer loses his shirt. We're talking about one transaction of two items to one customer, and it was not a high priced item. I don't see that any sanity was injected into it. What's insane is for a

Re: Message from Henry Posner, Part I

2010-02-05 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: Bob Sullivan Subject: Re: Message from Henry Posner, Part I Thanks Mark for putting some sanity back into this thread. Bill wants to argue like this is some 2 dollar item picked off of the store shelf. I think the situation changes with the price

Re: Message from Henry Posner, Part I

2010-02-05 Thread Bob Sullivan
Bill, After your story, Lynn will have to sell her Home Depot stock... Regards, Bob S. On Fri, Feb 5, 2010 at 10:57 AM, William Robb war...@gmail.com wrote: - Original Message - From: George Sinos Subject: Re: Message from Henry Posner, Part I These people raise the cost of doing

Re: Message from Henry Posner, Part I

2010-02-05 Thread Tom C
It's one thing for Bill Robb to insult Henry Posner, Bill Robb is known for this sort of behaviour. It is something else entirely for BH Photo to insult Bill Robb, who has been a good customer of theirs. William Robb MARK! -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net

Re: Message from Henry Posner, Part I

2010-02-05 Thread Tom C
Bob, I'm a virtual store and will gladly accept your virtual money, in any amount, denomination or currency. HAND IT OVER! :-) Tom C. On Fri, Feb 5, 2010 at 12:04 PM, Bob Sullivan rf.sulli...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks Mark for putting some sanity back into this thread. Bill wants to argue

Re: Message from Henry Posner, Part I

2010-02-05 Thread John Francis
. On Fri, Feb 05, 2010 at 09:11:08AM -0500, Tom C wrote: Please post Bill, please. Tom C. On Fri, Feb 5, 2010 at 8:45 AM, William Robb war...@gmail.com wrote: - Original Message - From: paul stenquist Subject: Re: Message from Henry Posner, Part I I'm not Henry

Re: Message from Henry Posner, Part I

2010-02-05 Thread Tom C
On Fri, Feb 5, 2010 at 12:23 PM, P N Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote: On Feb 5, 2010, at 12:20 PM, Tom C wrote: It's one thing for Bill Robb to insult Henry Posner, Bill Robb is known for this sort of behaviour. It is something else entirely for BH Photo to insult Bill Robb, who has

Re: Message from Henry Posner, Part I

2010-02-05 Thread P N Stenquist
On Feb 5, 2010, at 12:20 PM, Tom C wrote: It's one thing for Bill Robb to insult Henry Posner, Bill Robb is known for this sort of behaviour. It is something else entirely for BH Photo to insult Bill Robb, who has been a good customer of theirs. William Robb MARK! Mark knows better,

Re: Message from Henry Posner, Part I

2010-02-05 Thread John Francis
On Fri, Feb 05, 2010 at 09:29:52AM -0500, Tom C wrote: I can guarantee you Bill, that between either one of us alone, and certainly combined, BH has already lost far more profit than they would have by simply honoring the contract on that one transaction. Tom C. Oh, good. Sou you can

Re: Message from Henry Posner, Part I

2010-02-05 Thread George Sinos
Hi Bill - I agree, as long as this remains a small percentage of customers, it can be handled. I was just trying to point out there there are problems on both sides of the cash register. As long as both parties treat each other with the benefit of the doubt, we're all better off for it. My

Re: Message from Henry Posner, Part I

2010-02-05 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: Bob Sullivan Subject: Re: Message from Henry Posner, Part I Bill, After your story, Lynn will have to sell her Home Depot stock... Consider, Home Depot is doing very well, Lowes OTOH.. William Robb -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net

Re: Message from Henry Posner, Part I

2010-02-05 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: John Francis Subject: Re: Message from Henry Posner, Part I No - please don't. Mafud once said: Bill Robb will be the one to put the Muslim in his place. Now it's Henry's turn. HAR!! -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http

Re: Message from Henry Posner, Part I

2010-02-05 Thread Bob Sullivan
Henry Posner, Part I Thanks Mark for putting some sanity back into this thread. Bill wants to argue like this is some 2 dollar item picked off of the store shelf. I think the situation changes with the price of the item and in the virtual store. The price is not germaine, the principal

Re: Message from Henry Posner, Part I

2010-02-05 Thread Bob Sullivan
Sorry Tom, A guy with a virtual gun stole all my virtual money. ;-) Regards, Bob S. On Fri, Feb 5, 2010 at 11:23 AM, Tom C caka...@gmail.com wrote: Bob, I'm a virtual store and will gladly accept your virtual money, in any amount, denomination or currency.  HAND IT OVER! :-) Tom C. On

Re: Message from Henry Posner, Part I

2010-02-05 Thread Tom C
Exactly! Except I still reserve the right express my views and the rest of the list can excercise their right to read it or not. There's a good 50% of the list I don't read based on topic alone. I think there's probably an equal number who see it the same way as Bill and I, and simply have not

Re: Message from Henry Posner, Part I

2010-02-05 Thread Bob Sullivan
OH NO, Tom has evoked the 'silent majority'! Next thing I know, you'll be pelting us with tea bags. :-) Is that Ronald Regan I see over your shoulder? Regards, Bob S. On Fri, Feb 5, 2010 at 12:27 PM, Tom C caka...@gmail.com wrote: Exactly! Except I still reserve the right express my views

J. Peterman, hire this man (was Re: Message from Henry Posner, Part I)

2010-02-05 Thread Derby Chang
Bob Sullivan wrote: There's an image forming in my mind of Regina, a windswept town on the frozen tundra of Canada, miles from the nearest neighbors. Rising from the plains of 1 story homes and shops is a 2 story retail beacon. It's the Regina Camera shop. In the early evening darkness I can

Re: Message from Henry Posner, Part I

2010-02-05 Thread Tom C
:13 AM, William Robb war...@gmail.com wrote: - Original Message - From: Bob Sullivan Subject: Re: Message from Henry Posner, Part I Thanks Mark for putting some sanity back into this thread. Bill wants to argue like this is some 2 dollar item picked off of the store shelf. I think

Re: Message from Henry Posner, Part I

2010-02-05 Thread Tom C
Well there's at least two others that spoke up, not counting the original poster, who also questioned the rightness of the policy. On Fri, Feb 5, 2010 at 1:36 PM, Bob Sullivan rf.sulli...@gmail.com wrote: OH NO, Tom has evoked the 'silent majority'! Next thing I know, you'll be pelting us with

Re: J. Peterman, hire this man (was Re: Message from Henry Posner, Part I)

2010-02-05 Thread Thomas Cakalic
There's an image forming in my mind of Regina, a windswept town on the frozen tundra of Canada, miles from the nearest neighbors. Rising from the plains of 1 story homes and shops is a 2 story retail beacon. It's the Regina Camera shop. In the early evening darkness I can almost see the

Re: J. Peterman, hire this man (was Re: Message from Henry Posner, Part I)

2010-02-05 Thread Thomas Cakalic
OK... make it 4 meters. On Fri, Feb 5, 2010 at 2:54 PM, Thomas Cakalic caka...@gmail.com wrote: There's an image forming in my mind of Regina, a windswept town on the frozen tundra of Canada, miles from the nearest neighbors.  Rising from the plains of 1 story homes and shops is a 2 story

Re: J. Peterman, hire this man (was Re: Message from Henry Posner, Part I)

2010-02-05 Thread Bob Sullivan
I'm gonna book my flight out there now... Bob S. On Fri, Feb 5, 2010 at 1:54 PM, Thomas Cakalic caka...@gmail.com wrote: There's an image forming in my mind of Regina, a windswept town on the frozen tundra of Canada, miles from the nearest neighbors.  Rising from the plains of 1 story homes

Re: J. Peterman, hire this man (was Re: Message from Henry Posner, Part I)

2010-02-05 Thread Derby Chang
Thomas Cakalic wrote: There's an image forming in my mind of Regina, a windswept town on the frozen tundra of Canada, miles from the nearest neighbors. Rising from the plains of 1 story homes and shops is a 2 story retail beacon. It's the Regina Camera shop. In the early evening darkness I

Re: Message from Henry Posner, Part I

2010-02-05 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: Bob Sullivan Subject: Re: Message from Henry Posner, Part I There's an image forming in my mind of Regina, a windswept town on the frozen tundra of Canada, miles from the nearest neighbors. Rising from the plains of 1 story homes and shops is a 2 story

Re: Message from Henry Posner, Part I

2010-02-05 Thread David Savage
On 6 February 2010 06:35, William Robb war...@gmail.com wrote: - Original Message - From: Bob Sullivan Subject: Re: Message from Henry Posner, Part I There's an image forming in my mind of Regina, a windswept town on the frozen tundra of Canada, miles from the nearest neighbors

Re: Message from Henry Posner, Part I

2010-02-05 Thread Bob Sullivan
Sometimes warm air and sunshine addles the mind... Bob S. On Fri, Feb 5, 2010 at 5:41 PM, David Savage ozsav...@gmail.com wrote: On 6 February 2010 06:35, William Robb war...@gmail.com wrote: - Original Message - From: Bob Sullivan Subject: Re: Message from Henry Posner, Part I

Re: J. Peterman, hire this man (was Re: Message from Henry Posner, Part I)

2010-02-05 Thread Christine Aguila
- Original Message - From: Derby Chang der...@iinet.net.au To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Sent: Friday, February 05, 2010 3:48 PM Subject: Re: J. Peterman, hire this man (was Re: Message from Henry Posner,Part I) Thomas Cakalic wrote: There's an image forming in my

OT: airlines (was Re: Message from Henry Posner, Part I)

2010-02-05 Thread Stan Halpin
On Feb 5, 2010, at 9:52 AM, Tom C wrote: I've heard this .. 'The number one reason for late departures is because travelers delay departure by not handling their carryon items properly.' WHAT??? The CUSTOMER is responsible for late departures? Who decided to change their policy and

Re: OT: airlines (was Re: Message from Henry Posner, Part I)

2010-02-05 Thread Tom C
On Fri, Feb 5, 2010 at 9:14 PM, Stan Halpin s...@stans-photography.info wrote: On Feb 5, 2010, at 9:52 AM, Tom C wrote:  I've heard this .. 'The number one reason for late departures is because travelers delay departure by not handling their carryon items properly.' WHAT???  The CUSTOMER

Re: J. Peterman, hire this man (was Re: Message from Henry Posner, Part I)

2010-02-05 Thread Sandy Harris
Christine Aguila cagu...@earthlink.net wrote: There's an image forming in my mind of Regina, ... ... a 2 story retail beacon. It's the Regina Camera shop. Yes, an evocative image!... if I may continue... Inside the shop, hard at work is a tall, distinguished, balding

Re: OT: airlines (was Re: Message from Henry Posner, Part I)

2010-02-05 Thread John Francis
On Fri, Feb 05, 2010 at 08:14:35PM -0600, Stan Halpin wrote: On Feb 5, 2010, at 9:52 AM, Tom C wrote: I've heard this .. 'The number one reason for late departures is because travelers delay departure by not handling their carryon items properly.' WHAT??? The CUSTOMER is

Re: Message from Henry Posner, Part I

2010-02-05 Thread P. J. Alling
, 2010 at 8:45 AM, William Robbwar...@gmail.com wrote: - Original Message - From: paul stenquist Subject: Re: Message from Henry Posner, Part I I'm not Henry and certainly can't speak for BH. But after many years of dealing with them, I would guess the answer would

Re: Message from Henry Posner, Part I

2010-02-04 Thread Christian
: - Original Message - From: Tom C Subject: Re: Message from Henry Posner, Part I LOL. You guys should all know by now we're different. I'm an analytical IT geek, analyze things to death and blather on in my analysis. Bill speaks his mind and does so strongly because they took his chainsaws away

Re: Message from Henry Posner, Part I

2010-02-04 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: P. J. Alling Subject: Re: Message from Henry Posner, Part I I could make a crack about the Harvard School of Business being nearly as destructive to good business as the Harvard School of Government has been to good governance, but I won't. I

Re: Message from Henry Posner, Part I

2010-02-04 Thread mike wilson
William Robb war...@gmail.com wrote: Hey Henry, do some math if you are able to. If you drop 10% of your customers every year, how many years does it take before you can't get new ones because you've dropped them all? William Robb How does a retailer drop a customer? Pointblank

Re: Message from Henry Posner, Part I

2010-02-04 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: mike wilson Subject: Re: Message from Henry Posner, Part I Hey Henry, do some math if you are able to. If you drop 10% of your customers every year, how many years does it take before you can't get new ones because you've dropped them all? How

Re: Message from Henry Posner, Part I

2010-02-04 Thread John Sessoms
Sounds pretty much like being a teenager to me. And growing older ... since I refuse to actually grow UP. From: Tom C I didn't know about the law, but it seems that the essence of wisdom may be the realization that one is ignorant. In that case, I'm wiser than most. Tom C. On Wed, Feb 3,

Re: Message from Henry Posner, Part I

2010-02-04 Thread P N Stenquist
On Feb 4, 2010, at 9:26 AM, William Robb wrote: - Original Message - From: mike wilson Subject: Re: Message from Henry Posner, Part I Hey Henry, do some math if you are able to. If you drop 10% of your customers every year, how many years does it take before you can't get new

Re: Message from Henry Posner, Part I

2010-02-04 Thread Henry Posner
That's true of pretty much every skilled pursuit. There's even a law about it, the name of which I can't recall. Maybe Dunning-Kruger Effect. The net-net is that people who really know a subject are aware of just how little they know, while the ignorant think they know everything.

RE: Message from Henry Posner, Part I

2010-02-04 Thread Henry Posner
I was thinking that quoting from the Harvard Business School as a means of defending one's shaky business practices might not be wise in light of the present economic climate and what brought us to it, and I was going to refrain, but then, what the Hell. We are being all touchy feely, and how

Re: Message from Henry Posner, Part I

2010-02-04 Thread Thomas Cakalic
Certainly that could be the case. I think the proposed 10% was extremely high. Someone suggested 1/10 of 1%. But how would that be accomplished with an online store? Flag their name, credit card, address, e-mail... Disable their online account? All of which can be gotten around? Do you

Re: Message from Henry Posner, Part I

2010-02-04 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: Henry Posner Subject: RE: Message from Henry Posner, Part I Fine. Let's say I didn't read it in the HBR. Let's say it was on the back of a Rice Chex box. The concept remains as provocative. Criticizing the source (HBR) and ignoring the concept

Re: Message from Henry Posner, Part I

2010-02-04 Thread Stan Halpin
I am merely a researcher, the closest I have come to being in business is when I walk into one to buy something. With that footnote out of the way... I would agree with the premise that some customers are a pain in the neck and in many other mentionable and unmentionable parts of the anatomy. I

Re: Message from Henry Posner, Part I

2010-02-04 Thread Doug Franklin
On 2010-02-04 23:43, Stan Halpin wrote: I would agree with the premise that some customers are a pain in the neck and in many other mentionable and unmentionable parts of the anatomy. I've long been of the opinion that a lot of businesses, especially startups and small businesses, never

RE: Message from Henry Posner, Part I

2010-02-03 Thread Henry Posner
A cardinal rule in all businesses is that the customer comes first. Granted there could be an exceptional customer that deserves to get the boot or who makes unreasonable demands. In this case, resolving the problem to the customer's satisfaction, in the big scheme of things, was a rather

Re: Message from Henry Posner, Part I

2010-02-03 Thread Tom C
Henry, Then, respectfully, please inform us regarding the rest of the story and details we're unaware of. Then we'll also have complete information and can reach a fair conclusion, which you imply we have not. Tom C. In the particular instance under discussion, various compromise offers were

Re: Message from Henry Posner, Part I

2010-02-03 Thread Henry Posner
-Original Message- From: Tom C caka...@gmail.com Then, respectfully, please inform us regarding the rest of the story and details we're unaware of. Then we'll also have complete information and can reach a fair conclusion, which you imply we have not. Actually I was emailing

Re: Message from Henry Posner, Part I

2010-02-03 Thread Cotty
On 3/2/10, Henry Posner, discombobulated, unleashed: I'd like to think it's possible to engage in a reasonable dialogue here and disagree with one another without resorting to venal personal invective and insults. Mark! (we have an annual quotes list published at Christmas or thereabouts and

Re: Message from Henry Posner, Part I

2010-02-03 Thread Tom C
Thank you for the response Henry. I read/skimmed the The Equitable Doctrine of Unilateral Mistake. Here's my thoughts and I preface they are obviously simply my opinions: http://www.lctjournal.washington.edu/vol1/a002groebner.html 1. I couldn't find whether the The Equitable Doctrine of

Re: Message from Henry Posner, Part I

2010-02-03 Thread Bob Sullivan
Tom, You're like an old dog with a bone. Leave it alone already! Let it die here. Regards, Bob S. On Wed, Feb 3, 2010 at 4:26 PM, Tom C caka...@gmail.com wrote: Thank you for the response Henry. I read/skimmed the The Equitable Doctrine of Unilateral Mistake.  Here's my thoughts and I preface

Re: Message from Henry Posner, Part I

2010-02-03 Thread Tom C
Bob, I asked Henry a question which he needn't have responded to, but he did so in a respectful manner. I simply responded back with my further thoughts, also in a respectful manner. His answer led to me having a better understanding of the issue, irregardless of whether I think the solution

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