Re: Current camera classics? WAS:Re: Mouldering film camera survey

2007-12-12 Thread graywolf
True Bob Blakely wrote: You are generally correct, however: Ammunition not being available is no bar from firing any old firearm. One can always make the ammunition if one wants to, and it's usually a relatively trivial matter. I know, I've done it. Further, while ammo for certain

Re: Mouldering film camera survey

2007-12-12 Thread graywolf
I guess my 2 MXen do not count as I still use them. Graywolf Website: http://www.graywolfphoto.com Blog:http://www.graywolfphoto.com/journal/ --- -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net

Re: Mouldering film camera survey

2007-12-12 Thread P. J. Alling
Well, I've got film loaded in one of mine, but I haven't shot a frame in about a year. I really should shoot off that roll sometime, but then I'll have to get some more developer, and I've just been too lazy since HC110 has become unavailable from the local stores. graywolf wrote: I guess

Re: Mouldering film camera survey

2007-12-11 Thread John
Spotmatic K1000 MX LX --- Cesar Matamoros II [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: William Robb wrote: Here is a sad survery. How many Pentax film cameras do you have that you are rarely, if ever, using? List by model and number if you like. Reply in confidence to warobb at accesscomm.ca

Re: Mouldering film camera survey

2007-12-11 Thread Gonz
I bought it because I was planning to hitchhike around Europe with a girlfriend for a few months, and I wanted something better than my first SLR, a Zenith. Here's a picture taken with the MX of the aforementiond gf, running along a beach somewhere in the S of France (Gruissan or Cap d'Agde,

RE: Mouldering film camera survey

2007-12-11 Thread Bob W
I deleted it yesterday. -- Bob -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gonz Sent: 11 December 2007 17:40 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: Mouldering film camera survey I bought it because I was planning to hitchhike around

Re: Current camera classics? WAS:Re: Mouldering film camera survey

2007-12-10 Thread Bob Blakely
were killed in the sending of this message, but a large number of electrons were terribly inconvenienced. From: P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Sent: Saturday, December 08, 2007 9:19 PM Subject: Re: Current camera classics? WAS:Re: Mouldering film camera

Re: Current camera classics? WAS:Re: Mouldering film camera survey

2007-12-10 Thread Bob Blakely
You are generally correct, however: Ammunition not being available is no bar from firing any old firearm. One can always make the ammunition if one wants to, and it's usually a relatively trivial matter. I know, I've done it. Further, while ammo for certain antique firearms may not be mass

Re: Mouldering film camera survey

2007-12-10 Thread Pawel Bartuzi
Looks like MX is the most loved Pentax as there are 36 of them unused yet not sold in members' posession. There are also 41 Spotmatics and 36 ME series camera unused but it accounts for several different models I suppose. Long live MX. :-) Pawel William Robb pisze: Hear it is, kids, the

Re: Current camera classics? WAS:Re: Mouldering film camera survey

2007-12-10 Thread Cotty
On 10/12/07, Bob Blakely, discombobulated, unleashed: Camera W x Hx D (mm) Wt (g) ME 131x 82.5 x 49.5460 ME Super 131.5 x 83x 49.5445 MX 135.8 x 82.5 x 49.3 495 LX 144.5 x 90.5 x 50 570 (for reference) K2

Re: Current camera classics? WAS:Re: Mouldering film camera survey

2007-12-10 Thread John Francis
On Mon, Dec 10, 2007 at 10:07:21AM -0800, Bob Blakely wrote: From Bojidar Dimitrov's Pentax K-Mount Page (Best authority on all things K-mount) http://www.bdimitrov.de/kmp/bodies/M/index.html Camera W x Hx D (mm) Wt (g) ME 131x 82.5 x 49.5460 ME Super

Re: Current camera classics? WAS:Re: Mouldering film camera survey

2007-12-10 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
On Dec 10, 2007, at 11:11 AM, Cotty wrote: ... That is still a wilting pile of fetid testicles. Mark! I dunno, but that's just so gross it had me laughing until my ribs ached. :-) Godfrey -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to

Re: Current camera classics? WAS:Re: Mouldering film camera survey

2007-12-10 Thread Cotty
On 10/12/07, Godfrey DiGiorgi, discombobulated, unleashed: ... That is still a wilting pile of fetid testicles. Mark! I dunno, but that's just so gross it had me laughing until my ribs ached. :-) The nice thing is, it's pretty interchangeable as a sentence, viz: That is still a fetid wilt

Re: Current camera classics? WAS:Re: Mouldering film camera survey

2007-12-10 Thread Mark Roberts
Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: On Dec 10, 2007, at 11:11 AM, Cotty wrote: ... That is still a wilting pile of fetid testicles. Mark! I dunno, but that's just so gross it had me laughing until my ribs ached. :-) Quite. I mean, a pile of fetid testicles is one thing... but a *wilting* pile of

Re: Current camera classics? WAS:Re: Mouldering film camera survey

2007-12-10 Thread Christian
Mark Roberts wrote: Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: On Dec 10, 2007, at 11:11 AM, Cotty wrote: ... That is still a wilting pile of fetid testicles. Mark! I dunno, but that's just so gross it had me laughing until my ribs ached. :-) Quite. I mean, a pile of fetid testicles is one thing...

Re: Current camera classics? WAS:Re: Mouldering film camera survey

2007-12-10 Thread P. J. Alling
As I said, the body of the ME exclusive of the prism housing is also shorter from top plate to base plate than the MX those measly millimeters make for very big difference in size in the hands. I've used both and while I don't have exceedingly large hands the ME is much more difficult to

Re: Current camera classics? WAS:Re: Mouldering film camera survey

2007-12-10 Thread Steve Desjardins
Well, at least in this case one is noticeably larger than the other. But this does not qualify the statement that 'the MX is much wider than the ME'. That is still a wilting pile of fetid testicles. -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|

Re: Current camera classics? WAS:Re: Mouldering film camera survey

2007-12-10 Thread Cotty
On 10/12/07, P. J. Alling, discombobulated, unleashed: As I said, the body of the ME exclusive of the prism housing is also shorter from top plate to base plate than the MX those measly millimeters make for very big difference in size in the hands. I've used both and while I don't have

Re: Current camera classics? WAS:Re: Mouldering film camera survey

2007-12-10 Thread P. J. Alling
It's a gift. Cotty wrote: On 10/12/07, P. J. Alling, discombobulated, unleashed: As I said, the body of the ME exclusive of the prism housing is also shorter from top plate to base plate than the MX those measly millimeters make for very big difference in size in the hands. I've

Re: Current camera classics? WAS:Re: Mouldering film camera survey

2007-12-10 Thread Sandy Harris
On Dec 11, 2007 6:45 AM, P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: peter you're just obnoxious It's a gift. Mark! -- Sandy Harris, Nanjing, China -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link

Re: Current camera classics? WAS:Re: Mouldering film camera survey

2007-12-10 Thread Cotty
On 10/12/07, P. J. Alling, discombobulated, unleashed: It's a gift. LOL -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net

Re: Current camera classics? WAS:Re: Mouldering film camera survey

2007-12-09 Thread Cotty
On 09/12/07, P. J. Alling, discombobulated, unleashed: The ME is much smaller than the MX, Poppycock. -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net

Re: Current camera classics? WAS:Re: Mouldering film camera survey

2007-12-09 Thread John Whittingham
On Sun, 9 Dec 2007 09:33:39 +, Cotty wrote On 09/12/07, P. J. Alling, discombobulated, unleashed: The ME is much smaller than the MX, Poppycock. -- Cheers, Cotty Having owned both, the ME is slighly smaller 131 x 82.5 x 49.5 compared to the MX 135.8 x 82.5 x 49.3. Most

Re: Current camera classics? WAS:Re: Mouldering film camera survey

2007-12-09 Thread P. J. Alling
In camera terms is certainly is. Look at a pair side by side sometime. Lets see. The width of an MX (side to side) is 94% of the width of an LX a camera that most everyone would admit is much bigger. (In fact the LX is damn close to the same size as that old K dinosaur the K2). The width

Re: Current camera classics? WAS:Re: Mouldering film camera survey

2007-12-09 Thread Cotty
On 09/12/07, John Whittingham, discombobulated, unleashed: Having owned both, the ME is slighly smaller 131 x 82.5 x 49.5 compared to the MX 135.8 x 82.5 x 49.3. Most noticeable when you're trying to fit an ME ERC to the MX body, but we're only talking a few mm. Exactly. The Allingator said:

Re: Current camera classics? WAS:Re: Mouldering film camera survey

2007-12-09 Thread Cotty
On 09/12/07, P. J. Alling, discombobulated, unleashed: Lets see. The width of an MX (side to side) is 94% of the width of an LX a camera that most everyone would admit is much bigger. (In fact the LX is damn close to the same size as that old K dinosaur the K2). The width of an ME is 96%

Re: Current camera classics? WAS:Re: Mouldering film camera survey

2007-12-09 Thread Adam Maas
The extra size and magnification of the MX (.97x at 95% instead of .95x at 92%) is enough to make the MX's too large to use comfortably. I find the ME smallish as well, but since I'm not trying to use the shutter dial it's a lot less annoying. But other than the LX, I never clicked with any of my

Re: Mouldering film camera survey

2007-12-09 Thread Cesar Matamoros II
William Robb wrote: Here is a sad survery. How many Pentax film cameras do you have that you are rarely, if ever, using? List by model and number if you like. Reply in confidence to warobb at accesscomm.ca I'll tally them up and post numbers, but not names when I have something.

Re: Mouldering film camera survey

2007-12-09 Thread William Robb
Hear it is, kids, the results you don't want to see from a survey you didn't want to have.. I will keep score for a while longer, but the replies are slowing enough that I thought I'd post what I have... Fourty seven people decided to partake in this thing, and they have 302 Pentax 35mm

Re: Mouldering film camera survey

2007-12-09 Thread pnstenquist
Interesting. It suggests that we aren't likely to part with our Spotmatics, but MZ-S and other recent models? Put 'em on ebay. Paul -- Original message -- From: William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hear it is, kids, the results you don't want to see from a survey you

Re: Mouldering film camera survey

2007-12-09 Thread Paul Crovella
Or the MZ-S and other recent models are still finding use. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Interesting. It suggests that we aren't likely to part with our Spotmatics, but MZ-S and other recent models? Put 'em on ebay. Paul -- Original message -- From: William Robb

Re: Mouldering film camera survey

2007-12-09 Thread Adam Maas
The MZ-S is the only Pentax 35mm film body I've not owned that I'd be actually tempted to get. Too bad the prices are still ridiculous (Good body, but it's priced similar to far more capable bodies of similar vintage. An EOS 1v or F5 it is not). -Adam On 12/9/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL

Re: Mouldering film camera survey

2007-12-09 Thread pnstenquist
No likely. They're film cameras. Paul -- Original message -- From: Paul Crovella [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or the MZ-S and other recent models are still finding use. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Interesting. It suggests that we aren't likely to part with our Spotmatics,

Re: Mouldering film camera survey

2007-12-09 Thread pnstenquist
If a used MZ-S is expensive, then I'm wrong. I thought they had become somewhat disposable. I've never wanted one. Well, maybe for a minute or two when they were first released. But prior to digital, I was shooting primarily MF for a couple years. If I wanted to shoot 35mm, it was the LX or my

Re: Current camera classics? WAS:Re: Mouldering film camera survey

2007-12-09 Thread keith_w
Cotty wrote: On 09/12/07, P. J. Alling, discombobulated, unleashed: The ME is much smaller than the MX... Poppycock. My ME super is 3/8 less wide than my MX. However, the MX is a little taller than the Super, about 1/8. The body thicknesses seem the same. So, the ME is not as wide, but

Re: Mouldering film camera survey

2007-12-09 Thread Adam Maas
They're running $5-600 for a copy in good condition, about double the cost of an F100 or EOS 3 and almost 3x the cost of a Minolta 7, all of which are more capable bodies of similar vintage. I suspect this has a lot to do with availability, as far as I'm aware, MZ-S bodies were never produced in

Re: Current camera classics? WAS:Re: Mouldering film camera survey

2007-12-09 Thread graywolf
Not remotely the same. The MX was the last of the old school, the ME the first of the new. The lenses and eyepiece accessories were about the only thing interchangeable between them. Sandy Harris wrote: On Dec 9, 2007 1:25 AM, Adam Maas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Owned an MX, poor

Re: Current camera classics? WAS:Re: Mouldering film camera survey

2007-12-09 Thread graywolf
The combination of old and high-quality will always have value. Collectors will always be around. So what if film completely disappears, folks still collect guns for which no ammunition has been available for a century or more. When one is young old does not mean anything because almost

Re: Current camera classics? WAS:Re: Mouldering film camera survey

2007-12-09 Thread graywolf
Well it is as much smaller as a Leica IIIC is smaller than a Leica IIIF, about 1/8 inch in length. Cotty wrote: On 09/12/07, P. J. Alling, discombobulated, unleashed: The ME is much smaller than the MX, Poppycock. -- Graywolf Website: http://www.graywolfphoto.com Blog:

Re: Current camera classics? WAS:Re: Mouldering film camera survey

2007-12-09 Thread Eactivist
In a message dated 12/9/2007 10:18:22 A.M. Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: In camera terms is certainly is. Look at a pair side by side sometime. Lets see. The width of an MX (side to side) is 94% of the width of an LX a camera that most everyone would admit is much

Re: Current camera classics? WAS:Re: Mouldering film camera survey

2007-12-08 Thread Adam Maas
Owned an MX, poor viewfinder(WAY too much magnification, no eye relief), too small to handle nicely, low flash sync. ME - Alright ME Super - Horrid UI. KX, big, heavy. Super Program - see ME Super LX - Real nice camera, needs grip+winder to be comfortable to shoot. The LX is the only one of the

Re: Current camera classics? WAS:Re: Mouldering film camera survey

2007-12-08 Thread Bob Sullivan
Big hands Adam? Regards, Bob S. On Dec 8, 2007 11:25 AM, Adam Maas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Owned an MX, poor viewfinder(WAY too much magnification, no eye relief), too small to handle nicely, low flash sync. ME - Alright ME Super - Horrid UI. KX, big, heavy. Super Program - see ME

Re: Current camera classics? WAS:Re: Mouldering film camera survey

2007-12-08 Thread Bob Blakely
Do you think the Speed Graphic folks will think the same? Have you seen what one goes for in just reasonable condition? There will always be people who will remember... Regards, Bob... - Note: No trees were killed in the sending of

Re: Current camera classics? WAS:Re: Mouldering film camera survey

2007-12-08 Thread Bob Blakely
For some folks, there is a warmly felt appreciation for a craftsman like elegance that transcends the function of the tool itself. The H1a, etal., the Spotmatics and their K-mount cousins, the MX, the ME-Super and the LX. These each had and continue to have such an appeal to me. It's much like

Re: Current camera classics? WAS:Re: Mouldering film camera survey

2007-12-08 Thread Paul Stenquist
I love my Speed Graphic. Gotta break it out and shoot some sheet film one of these days. One of these days.:-) Paul On Dec 8, 2007, at 8:13 PM, Bob Blakely wrote: Do you think the Speed Graphic folks will think the same? Have you seen what one goes for in just reasonable condition? There

Re: Current camera classics? WAS:Re: Mouldering film camera survey

2007-12-08 Thread Adam Maas
Average, but small cameras don't work for me unless thay've got a grip. I like to have a handful of camera. Best handling camera I own is my 645 Super. -Adam On 12/8/07, Bob Sullivan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Big hands Adam? Regards, Bob S. On Dec 8, 2007 11:25 AM, Adam Maas [EMAIL

Re: Current camera classics? WAS:Re: Mouldering film camera survey

2007-12-08 Thread Sandy Harris
On Dec 9, 2007 1:25 AM, Adam Maas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Owned an MX, poor viewfinder(WAY too much magnification, no eye relief), too small to handle nicely, low flash sync. ME - Alright I thought those two were identical except manual exposure on MX, aperature priority auto on ME. What did

Re: Current camera classics? WAS:Re: Mouldering film camera survey

2007-12-08 Thread Bob Sullivan
No, the viewfinders change. MX is less visible to me wearing eyeglasses. Regards, Bob S, On Dec 8, 2007 10:55 PM, Sandy Harris [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Dec 9, 2007 1:25 AM, Adam Maas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Owned an MX, poor viewfinder(WAY too much magnification, no eye relief), too

Re: Current camera classics? WAS:Re: Mouldering film camera survey

2007-12-08 Thread P. J. Alling
I have an ME and an MX and the viewfinders are more or less the same, (both for coverage and magnification), well close enough so that criticizing one is criticizing the other. The ME is much smaller than the MX, but has many fewer controls so that might make a difference in handling.. Sandy

Re: Mouldering film camera survey

2007-12-07 Thread Brian Walters
Well, if I list all of my Pentax film cameras it will be a *very* sad list. I'm a collecter so I have quite a number of them, including lots of Espios that I picked up for a few bucks each. But, if I restrict myself to those that I've actually used more than once or twice, the list goes

Re: Mouldering film camera survey

2007-12-07 Thread John Whittingham
On Thu, 6 Dec 2007 16:20:18 +, Cotty wrote On 06/12/07, John Whittingham, discombobulated, unleashed: 3x KX one silver, one black one for spares 3x MX all silver, all working. 1x LX 2x Super A's c/w motordrives MEII winders. 2x MZ-3's c/w FG battery packs. 1x 645 Jesus H, you're

Re: Mouldering film camera survey

2007-12-07 Thread Cotty
On 06/12/07, John Francis, discombobulated, unleashed: Nope. That's my cold dead hands film camera. It was my first K-mount body (thirty years ago - how time flies ...), and I was lucky enough to pick up a New In Box motor drive about ten years ago. My second MX was bought purely as a spare in

Re: Mouldering film camera survey

2007-12-07 Thread Cotty
On 07/12/07, frank theriault, discombobulated, unleashed: BTW, gorgeous woman! Is that your then-girlfriend, or just some French Tart on the Beach? Knowing Bob a bit, both. -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com

Re: Mouldering film camera survey

2007-12-07 Thread frank theriault
On Dec 7, 2007 4:37 AM, Bob W [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip: http://www.web-options.com/aotb.jpg I must have had a cheap tele zoom lens. The slide obviously needs cleaning. Looks perfectly sharp to me! :-) BTW, gorgeous woman! Is that your then-girlfriend, or just some French Tart on the

Re: Mouldering film camera survey

2007-12-07 Thread frank theriault
On Dec 7, 2007 8:58 AM, frank theriault [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: BTW, gorgeous woman! Is that your then-girlfriend, or just some French Tart on the Beach? Oops! Just re-read your post, Bob, and I see she's no FTotB... cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri

Re: Mouldering film camera survey

2007-12-07 Thread Jack Davis
ME Super Super Program They were in a camera shop counter case for months with no interest. Also, tried each on eBay twice. Nothing! Jack --- David S. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: William Robb wrote: Here is a sad survery. How many Pentax film cameras do you have that you are rarely, if ever,

Re: Mouldering film camera survey

2007-12-07 Thread Jack Davis
To what country would it be shipped? In a fit of honesty, the ISO ring allows the setting to vary at times, so needs to be checked (jiggled) from time to time. This is pretty much standard with a used unit. Cosmetically and operationally (except for ISO ring glitch) in very good condition.

Re: Mouldering film camera survey

2007-12-07 Thread Sandy Harris
On Dec 7, 2007 9:37 PM, Jack Davis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ME Super Super Program They were in a camera shop counter case for months with no interest. Also, tried each on eBay twice. Nothing! Anyone here with equipment that is both unused and unsaleable should consider donating it to Baba,

Re: Mouldering film camera survey

2007-12-07 Thread Thibouille
* Z1 but just bought a new 2CR5 for it to play again ;) * P30t.. superceded in all areas by my other cameras. * KR10x used only as body I would not regret in any way if broken (read, bad weather or other risks) * MX not much used but at very stable interval * SuperA much like the MX but a couple

RE: Mouldering film camera survey

2007-12-07 Thread Bob W
On 07/12/07, frank theriault, discombobulated, unleashed: BTW, gorgeous woman! Is that your then-girlfriend, or just some French Tart on the Beach? Knowing Bob a bit, both. Hmmph! She was my girlfriend, and not at all French. Or tarty. In fact, we're still friends, 28 years on. --

Re: Mouldering film camera survey

2007-12-07 Thread mike wilson
From: Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2007/12/06 Thu PM 04:20:18 GMT To: pentax list PDML@pdml.net Subject: Re: Mouldering film camera survey On 06/12/07, John Whittingham, discombobulated, unleashed: 3x KX one silver, one black one for spares 3x MX all silver, all working. 1x LX 2x

Re: Mouldering film camera survey

2007-12-07 Thread Brian Walters
Well, that should be an interesting research project for some 22nd century archaeologist Cheers Brian ++ Brian Walters Western Sydney, Australia http://members.westnet.com.au/brianwal/SL/ http://www.blognow.com.au/peso1/

RE: Mouldering film camera survey

2007-12-07 Thread Bob W
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Cotty Sent: 07 December 2007 08:53 To: pentax list Subject: Re: Mouldering film camera survey On 06/12/07, John Francis, discombobulated, unleashed: Nope. That's my cold dead hands film camera

Re: Mouldering film camera survey

2007-12-07 Thread John Whittingham
On Fri, 7 Dec 2007 12:38:02 +, mike wilson wrote From: Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2007/12/06 Thu PM 04:20:18 GMT To: pentax list PDML@pdml.net Subject: Re: Mouldering film camera survey On 06/12/07, John Whittingham, discombobulated, unleashed: 3x KX one silver, one

Re: Mouldering film camera survey

2007-12-07 Thread John Whittingham
On Thu, 06 Dec 2007 11:39:10 -0500, Scott Loveless wrote Cotty wrote: On 06/12/07, John Whittingham, discombobulated, unleashed: 3x KX one silver, one black one for spares 3x MX all silver, all working. 1x LX 2x Super A's c/w motordrives MEII winders. 2x MZ-3's c/w FG battery

Re: Mouldering film camera survey

2007-12-07 Thread mike wilson
From: John Whittingham [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2007/12/07 Fri PM 03:44:06 GMT To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: Mouldering film camera survey On Fri, 7 Dec 2007 12:38:02 +, mike wilson wrote From: Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2007/12/06 Thu PM 04:20

Re: Mouldering film camera survey

2007-12-07 Thread Adam Maas
None, In fact I've only got 2 35mm cameras at present, a Nikon F2a and a Minolta Maxxum 7. The llatter was part of a planned move to Sony, but my dissatisfaction with Minolta/Sony metering (Their matrix meter is useless) put a hold on that. So the Maxxum 7 is for sale ($200 w/ 35-70 f4 if

Re: Current camera classics? WAS:Re: Mouldering film camera survey

2007-12-07 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
On Dec 7, 2007, at 2:53 PM, Bob Sullivan wrote: You are absolutely right Cory. The old gear has a touch and feel that doesn't go away. The ME is so small, clean,and quick in the hands. The ME Super is more quiet and solid feeling when the shutter fires. The KX is big and durable and kind of

RE: Mouldering film camera survey

2007-12-07 Thread Bob W
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Cotty Sent: 07 December 2007 22:42 To: pentax list Subject: Re: Mouldering film camera survey On 07/12/07, Bob W, discombobulated, unleashed: In fact, we're still friends, 28 years on. Nudge

Current camera classics? WAS:Re: Mouldering film camera survey

2007-12-07 Thread cbwaters
Godfrey, you view is certainly logical, if a bit dispassionate. I tend to impart a soul and personality to my possessions (and indeed items I want but will never own for lack of funds). I'm wondering if you had posters of cars, bikes or whatever on your walls as a teenager. I admire gadgets

Re: Mouldering film camera survey

2007-12-07 Thread David J Brooks
On Dec 7, 2007 2:14 PM, cbwaters [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Does anybody think they'll ever again make a camera body that would elicit the same emotions thirty years on? I won't be strong enough to pick it up by then.:-) Dave CW does not. - Original Message - From: Cotty [EMAIL

Re: Mouldering film camera survey

2007-12-07 Thread John Whittingham
On Fri, 7 Dec 2007 16:04:06 +, mike wilson wrote From: John Whittingham [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2007/12/07 Fri PM 03:44:06 GMT To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: Mouldering film camera survey On Fri, 7 Dec 2007 12:38:02 +, mike wilson wrote

Re: Mouldering film camera survey

2007-12-07 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
On Dec 7, 2007, at 11:27 AM, Scott Loveless wrote: cbwaters wrote: Does anybody think they'll ever again make a camera body that would elicit the same emotions thirty years on? Nor do I. They (camera makers) figured out a while back that making cameras which last 30+ years isn't

Re: Current camera classics? WAS:Re: Mouldering film camera survey

2007-12-07 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
On Dec 7, 2007, at 4:31 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Those great old film cameras will likely be totally forgotten by 2015, never mind 2037. Hmmm. What do you want to bet that my Leica IIIf RD won't be even more coveted in 2037 than it is today? Worth more, adjusted for inflation?

Re: Current camera classics? WAS:Re: Mouldering film camera survey

2007-12-07 Thread pnstenquist
-- Original message -- From: Godfrey DiGiorgi [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Dec 7, 2007, at 1:08 PM, cbwaters wrote: Those great old film cameras will likely be totally forgotten by 2015, never mind 2037. Hmmm. What do you want to bet that my Leica IIIf RD

Re: Current camera classics? WAS:Re: Mouldering film camera survey

2007-12-07 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
On Dec 7, 2007, at 1:08 PM, cbwaters wrote: you view is certainly logical, if a bit dispassionate. I tend to impart a soul and personality to my possessions (and indeed items I want but will never own for lack of funds). I don't really care all that much about possessions. I have built

Re: Current camera classics? WAS:Re: Mouldering film camera survey

2007-12-07 Thread Bob Sullivan
You are absolutely right Cory. The old gear has a touch and feel that doesn't go away. The ME is so small, clean,and quick in the hands. The ME Super is more quiet and solid feeling when the shutter fires. The KX is big and durable and kind of ols school. I feel like a pro with the little MX. And

Re: Mouldering film camera survey

2007-12-07 Thread Cotty
On 07/12/07, Godfrey DiGiorgi, discombobulated, unleashed: But then I'm a robotnik. Cameras are tools. It's the photographs which make me nostalgic. ;-) O the pathos!! -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com

Re: Mouldering film camera survey

2007-12-07 Thread Cotty
On 07/12/07, Bob W, discombobulated, unleashed: In fact, we're still friends, 28 years on. Nudge nudge wink wink. Does she likep h o t o g r a p h s ?? Nudge nudge -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com

Re: Mouldering film camera survey

2007-12-07 Thread Margus Männik
Nice :) I do't feel sad either. Just counted my Pentaxes (and posted directly to William) - I do own 22 working Pentax SLR bodies. Plus Chinons/Ricohs. Plus about hundred soviet M39/M42/K/other cameras. I've taken at least a roll with every of my Pentaxes and don't feel sad AT ALL. Much more

Re: Mouldering film camera survey

2007-12-07 Thread John Francis
On Fri, Dec 07, 2007 at 09:37:03AM -, Bob W wrote: you got a bargain. I bought [my MX] in 1979 for ?125- from a shop in Leeds. I gave up smoking for a year to get the money together. It's now in my safe with my Contaxes. I've also had several other MXs over the years, but have always

Re: Mouldering film camera survey

2007-12-07 Thread cbwaters
Does anybody think they'll ever again make a camera body that would elicit the same emotions thirty years on? CW does not. - Original Message - From: Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED] Same here. I bought my MX (black) in 1979 from Techno in the Euston Road (London) for either 106 or 104 GBP,

Re: Mouldering film camera survey

2007-12-07 Thread Scott Loveless
cbwaters wrote: Does anybody think they'll ever again make a camera body that would elicit the same emotions thirty years on? CW does not. Nor do I. They (camera makers) figured out a while back that making cameras which last 30+ years isn't conducive to turning a profit. While I can't

Re: Mouldering film camera survey

2007-12-07 Thread jim
MZ7 with batery grip. super program with motor drive, both getting repaired at this moment. Camera,s I used to have. Spotmatic, sold it when I got my me super ME super till it was stolen :( insurance got me the super program. James -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net

Re: Mouldering film camera survey

2007-12-06 Thread Polyhead
0 :) ... funny, that comes out 0:) ... hmmm Here is a sad survery. How many Pentax film cameras do you have that you are rarely, if ever, using? List by model and number if you like. Reply in confidence to warobb at accesscomm.ca I'll tally them up and post numbers, but not

Re: Mouldering film camera survey

2007-12-06 Thread Derby Chang
William Robb wrote: Here is a sad survery. How many Pentax film cameras do you have that you are rarely, if ever, using? List by model and number if you like. Reply in confidence to warobb at accesscomm.ca I'll tally them up and post numbers, but not names when I have something.

RE: Mouldering film camera survey

2007-12-06 Thread Bob W
MX - 1 -- Bob -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of William Robb Sent: 06 December 2007 04:35 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Mouldering film camera survey Here is a sad survery. How many Pentax film cameras do you have

Re: Mouldering film camera survey

2007-12-06 Thread Bong Manayon
I'm happy to have my name attached to my mouldy cameras Same here... K2 - dead electronics, works only with 1/125 B ... Bong -- Bong Manayon http://www.bong.uni.cc -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML,

Re: Mouldering film camera survey

2007-12-06 Thread David J Brooks
On Dec 5, 2007 11:35 PM, William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Here is a sad survery. How many Pentax film cameras do you have that you are rarely, if ever, using? List by model and number if you like. Reply in confidence to warobb at accesscomm.ca I'll tally them up and post numbers,

Re: Mouldering film camera survey

2007-12-06 Thread Walter Hamler
Kodak 35, circ 1948. I just recently bought it but it ain't too sharp, and I don't like film anymore :-) Walt On 12/5/07, William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Here is a sad survery. How many Pentax film cameras do you have that you are rarely, if ever, using? List by model and number if

Re: Mouldering film camera survey

2007-12-06 Thread Steve Desjardins
SP-500 MX ZX-7 MZ-S 645 I really like the MZ-S body. Add a second wheel and make it digital and I'm there. But in truth, I've was very happy with the DS and the K10D is a pleasure to use. Steven Desjardins Department of Chemistry Washington and Lee University Lexington, VA 24450 (540) 458-8873

RE: Mouldering film camera survey

2007-12-06 Thread Jens Bladt
Emne: Re: Mouldering film camera survey On Dec 5, 2007 11:35 PM, William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Here is a sad survery. How many Pentax film cameras do you have that you are rarely, if ever, using? List by model and number if you like. Reply in confidence to warobb at accesscomm.ca

Re: Mouldering film camera survey

2007-12-06 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
William Robb wrote: Here is a sad survery. How many Pentax film cameras do you have that you are rarely, if ever, using? List by model and number if you like. Reply in confidence to warobb at accesscomm.ca I'll tally them up and post numbers, but not names when I have something.

re: Mouldering film camera survey

2007-12-06 Thread Mike Hamilton
On 5-Dec-07, at 11:17 PM, WR wrote: Here is a sad survery. How many Pentax film cameras do you have that you are rarely, if ever, using? Just Pentax? MZ-5 MZ-6 ME-F (lent to a friend) Spotmatic SP (just got it!) Others: Yashicamat 124G - I'd like to use this more, but just don't get

Re: Mouldering film camera survey

2007-12-06 Thread John Whittingham
On Wed, 5 Dec 2007 22:35:04 -0600, William Robb wrote Here is a sad survery. How many Pentax film cameras do you have that you are rarely, if ever, using? List by model and number if you like. Reply in confidence to warobb at accesscomm.ca I'll tally them up and post numbers, but

Re: Mouldering film camera survey

2007-12-06 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
S1a Asahi Pentax Spotmatic (2) Honeywell Pentax Spotmatic SuperProgram MZ-5 AF 6x7 IQ zoom That adds up to 6 SLRs, one Medium Format and one compact point-and-shoot 8 Total, plus one Sears TLS that takes Pentax screwmount lenses Dan On Dec 5, 2007 11:35 PM, William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Re: Mouldering film camera survey

2007-12-06 Thread Cotty
On 06/12/07, Steve Desjardins, discombobulated, unleashed: Add a second wheel and make it digital and I'm there. Like this? http://kmp.bdimitrov.de/bodies/prototypes/MZ-D.html *sigh* -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|

Re: Mouldering film camera survey

2007-12-06 Thread Cotty
On 06/12/07, Derby Chang, discombobulated, unleashed: I'm happy to have my name attached to my mouldy cameras Oh alright then: 2 MXs, one retired in 2003 when I got a Canon D60, and one retired 2 years ago when my wife got an *ist Ds. -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People,

Re: Mouldering film camera survey

2007-12-06 Thread Cotty
On 06/12/07, John Whittingham, discombobulated, unleashed: 3x KX one silver, one black one for spares 3x MX all silver, all working. 1x LX 2x Super A's c/w motordrives MEII winders. 2x MZ-3's c/w FG battery packs. 1x 645 Jesus H, you're going to hell as sure as night follows day! --

Re: Mouldering film camera survey

2007-12-06 Thread Scott Loveless
Cotty wrote: On 06/12/07, John Whittingham, discombobulated, unleashed: 3x KX one silver, one black one for spares 3x MX all silver, all working. 1x LX 2x Super A's c/w motordrives MEII winders. 2x MZ-3's c/w FG battery packs. 1x 645 Jesus H, you're going to hell as sure as night

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