For Sale Thursday - topical wide angle goodies

2002-09-19 Thread Camdir
Folks, excuse me foisting these upon you, but I have decided that 3rd party items, however stunning they might be, basically don't sell. Thus I can exclusively offer the following, all at large reductions: Kiron 28mm F2 PK £30 (Was £40) Sigma 24mm F2.8 PKA Boxed with hood £55 (Was £75)

Re: err.... umm....

2002-09-19 Thread Flavio Minelli
Arathi-Sridhar wrote: rather a basic (bordering stupid) query... how do I 'care' for my K1000? I guess it would not tolerate rain, etc. I have not taken it out in bad weather, but I wish to know how safe it is etc If you don't get it soaking wet I guess a drying towel will be enough. It's

Re: Thanks Amita

2002-09-19 Thread Doug Brewer
bob, ouch. I'm stung. I think you should demand your money back. Even though I am under no obligation whatsoever to come up with a way to deal with Hotmail's massive inefficiency, that's what I've been trying to do. I'd like to take this opportunity to thank you for willingness to work with

Re: SMC-A 35-105 f3.5 - Debate Continues ?

2002-09-19 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Hi Bob, Both you and Alan Chan state the same thing. I'm going to run a quick test with whatever film I have remaining in the LX right now (HP5) and see. In the viewfinder it looks like it goes a bit out of focus as I zoom out to 35 (after focusing at 105). I'm not sure whether this is

Re: SMC-A 35-105 f3.5 - Debate Continues ?

2002-09-19 Thread Rfsindg
David, I have the same inclination to mess with the focus whenever I zoom it to 35mm. Sometimes I think I can improve focus, sometimes I don't. Given the inconsistent nature of my observations, I've figured it was focusing error...on my part. g Let us know what you find. Perhaps the lens

Re: SMC-A 35-105 f3.5 - Debate Continues ?

2002-09-19 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Bob, That's what I'm figuring. If so, I'm also going to call Pentax Canada and find out the cost of a CLA on this lens. Alan Chan claims that its a b*tch to do because of it's zoom but it can't be any MORE than say, a Leica M6 CLA ($350 CDN). :-) I'll keep the list informed. Cheers, Dave

Re: Aaron's shop

2002-09-19 Thread David Brooks
Hi Frank.Nice place,eh.I bought my chemicals from him too.:)BTW my BW course starts next Wednesday and the instructor has asked us to bring in 1 roll to start on right a way.I'm pumped. Dave Begin Original Message From: frank theriault [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wed, 18 Sep 2002

Jessops sale and for sale...

2002-09-19 Thread Rob Brigham
According to this week's BJP Jessops are selling their end of line and excess stock on E bay. Could be some bargains there or you could of course spend more than you want to. Also http://search.ft.com/search/article.html?id=020917000371query=abn%20jes sopsvsc_appId=totalSearchstate=Form Jessops

Dry firing (was sillycon film)

2002-09-19 Thread mike wilson
Hi, Rob wrote: The big question is whethter all cameras are consistent in this respect? I am guessing many will see the existence of a film due to a pressure sensor in the film chamber as you describe, but some may be as Mike says where the film is detected by movement of a

Re: err...ummm...

2002-09-19 Thread mike wilson
Hi, Arathi wrote: also would like some advise regarding the upcoming pug theme 'juxtaposition' for december: anything in particular? or anything at all? thanks. Don't know about anyone else but I'm just going to throw something together for this one.. mike

Re: more Photokina info (Now WELL OT!!)

2002-09-19 Thread Keith Whaley
Rob, from my Larousse: Vedette: patrol boat, scout; star, leading man, leading lady. Seems definition #2 is what you want, but weren't offered! BTW, 'lumineaux' is quite definitely luminous. They offer no alternate meaning. Seems to me it fits a description of a 120-300mm f/2.8 quite nicely! I

RE: Dry firing (was sillycon film)

2002-09-19 Thread Rob Brigham
No, you are missing the point, what they need to do is convince the camera that there is no film so that it 'dry-fires' and doesn't expect film advance to occur. That should be far simpler than doing what I initially thought and what you are now thinking - i.e. trying to convince it the film it

RE: more Photokina info (Now WELL OT!!)

2002-09-19 Thread Rob Brigham
-Original Message- From: Keith Whaley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Rob, from my Larousse: Vedette: patrol boat, scout; star, leading man, leading lady. Seems definition #2 is what you want, but weren't offered! Even better, they might be displaying their products on leading

RE: Dry firing (was sillycon film)

2002-09-19 Thread Rob Brigham
BTW, I love the change to the title of this thread!! -Original Message- From: Rob Brigham Sent: 19 September 2002 14:43 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Dry firing (was sillycon film) No, you are missing the point, what they need to do is convince the camera that there is

Re: Aaron's shop

2002-09-19 Thread Brendan
BW course where? where do I sign up lol. Aaron set me up with a fulll darkroom 8 months ago and now I'm over 400 prints made and 50 rolls of film developed myself, the savings are well worth it. --- David Brooks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Frank.Nice place,eh.I bought my chemicals from him

Re: Aaron's shop

2002-09-19 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I snagged a FREE (yep.. free) 35mm Enlarger a few weeks back from a guy who just wanted to get rid of it. Granted it's not name brand (it's only a Patterson) and the lens is no Rodenstock but hey.. it's FREE. I can develop my own film already (thanks to all of you folk) so maybe this weekend

Re: Aaron's shop

2002-09-19 Thread Brendan
don't drink the developer :-) despite the fact it tastes good --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I snagged a FREE (yep.. free) 35mm Enlarger a few weeks back from a guy who just wanted to get rid of it. Granted it's not name brand (it's only a Patterson) and the lens is no

Re: err.... umm....

2002-09-19 Thread Brendan
the k1000 is a tank, it can actually get alittle wet in rain and survive. --- Arathi-Sridhar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: rather a basic (bordering stupid) query... how do I 'care' for my K1000? I guess it would not tolerate rain, etc. I have not taken it out in bad weather, but I wish to know

RE: more Photkina information

2002-09-19 Thread Rob Brigham
According to Colorfoto-Website (German Photo-magazin) Kodak will show a 16 MP SLR at photokina. http://www.netedition.de/sixcms/detail.php3?id=29445 Speculation abounds: Kodak already has a 16-Megapixel digital back for professional cameras in their lineup. This chip would only have to be

Re: Re: Brown Spotmatic?

2002-09-19 Thread David Brooks
I have never seen a brown one,but i never knew they existed to bother looking.My SP500 is silver,if it was ever brown the salt water wore it away:) :) Dave Pentax User Stouffville Ontario Canada http://home.ca.inter.net/brooksdj/ http://brooks1952.tripod.com/myhorses Sign up today for your

Re: Re: Aaron's shop

2002-09-19 Thread David Brooks
They have a new, this year, course at Alexander Mckenzie High school in Richmond Hill. $180.00 Can. for 8 weeks 3 hours every Wednesday.The chemicals and use of the schools darkroom(s) included. I wonder what my homework assinment will beG Dave Begin Original Message From: Brendan

Pentax Binoculars?

2002-09-19 Thread Mike Ignatiev
Have anyone had any experience with those? Specifically, I am interested in PCF V 20x60, which seem to be available for circa $139 from Cameraland. Also, anyone has dealt with this merchant? Best, Mishka

RE: more Photkina information

2002-09-19 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sorry to (maybe) burst your bubble Rob.. But I've heard rumour from the List moderator on the HUG that there's plans to have an inexpensive digital back for the Blad. It could be for the Blad.. I don't know for sure.. but I'm just saying it could be :) Cheers, Dave Original Message:

Re: Re: Aaron's shop

2002-09-19 Thread Jeff
- Original Message - From: David Brooks [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, September 19, 2002 10:44 AM Subject: Re: Re: Aaron's shop They have a new, this year, course at Alexander Mckenzie High school in Richmond Hill. $180.00 Can. for 8 weeks 3 hours every

Re: err...ummm...

2002-09-19 Thread Mark Roberts
mike wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Arathi wrote: also would like some advise regarding the upcoming pug theme 'juxtaposition' for december: anything in particular? or anything at all? thanks. Don't know about anyone else but I'm just going to throw something together for this

RE: Dry firing (was sillycon film)

2002-09-19 Thread mike wilson
Hi Rob, The only way I can see that they can convince a film camera that it can fire is to convince it that there _is_ film there. With all the Pentax models I've seen, that means using a mechanical method to fool it into thinking that. With others that use LEDs, the solution is much simpler.

RE: err...ummm...

2002-09-19 Thread Rob Brigham
I particularly liked this shot with a Pentax recently... http://groups.msn.com/APMembersGallery/donerumble.msnw?action=ShowPhoto; PhotoID=8378 -Original Message- From: mike wilson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 19 September 2002 14:41 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re:

RE: err...ummm...

2002-09-19 Thread tom
-Original Message- From: Mark Roberts [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] -- Mark Roberts www.robertstech.com Photorgaphy and writing ^^^ Maybe you should stick to one or the other? HAR! tv

RE: err...ummm...

2002-09-19 Thread tom
-Original Message- From: Mark Roberts [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] mike wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Arathi wrote: also would like some advise regarding the upcoming pug theme 'juxtaposition' for december: anything in particular? or anything at all? thanks.

RE: Dry firing (was sillycon film)

2002-09-19 Thread Rob Brigham
NO NO NO. Your camera fires even if there is no film in it. This avoids the great problems of trying to convince it the film has wound successfully. Have you never tested a camera in a shop without film in? The shutter still fires. -Original Message- From: mike wilson [mailto:[EMAIL

Re: Pentax Binoculars?

2002-09-19 Thread Bill Owens
No info on this particular model, but I'm very pleased with my 8x24 compacts. Hope you have a good, solid tripod for those 20x60's as every heartbeat will be magnified by a factor of 20 8-) Bill - Original Message - From: Mike Ignatiev [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent:

Re: err...ummm...

2002-09-19 Thread Mark Roberts
tom [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -Original Message- From: Mark Roberts [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] -- Mark Roberts www.robertstech.com Photorgaphy and writing ^^^ Maybe you should stick to one or the other? HAR! Yikes! That sig's been like that for ages and you're the

Re: Dry firing (was: Silicon film, etc)

2002-09-19 Thread Peter Alling
The only modern camera that I've experience with that sensed weather the film loaded or not is the zx-m. If film is loaded and it isn't advancing the shutter still fires, the camera just doesn't count frames. If I remember correctly this is consistent with many other older model cameras that

RE: Silicon Film is still alive... (??????)

2002-09-19 Thread Peter Alling
Don't think of it as advancing the film. Think of it as cocking the shutter. At 12:34 PM 9/19/2002 +0100, you wrote: Cheers Jostein, I was on the verge of sacrificing a roll of film to test this last night, but I thought... Nah, let Jostein do it!! The big question is whethter all cameras are

RE: Silicon Film is still alive... (??????)

2002-09-19 Thread Rob Brigham
The shutter is cocked either independantly or by movement of the take up spools. It has nothing to do with film advancement unless really old cameras do it this way (I would be surprised). My Zenit E and P30T both recock the shutter even if there is no film in them. -Original Message-

RE: Dry firing (was: Silicon film, etc)

2002-09-19 Thread Rob Brigham
This is not my experience at all. Any 'electronic' camera I have ever used flashes an 'E' and locks up if the film wont load. (MZ-30, MZ-S, mjuii, Ixus etc) Also, I have noticed on the MZ-S that when the film is finished and rewinds you cannot fire the shutter again until you open and close

Re: Photos of new Sigmas

2002-09-19 Thread MPozzi
Fantasctic (120-300 f2.8!), and they have IS... Note that they are only going to be available in Sigma Nikon and Canon mounts... --- Sylwester Pietrzyk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Here are photos of newly announced Sigma lenses: http://www.photim.com/Infos/UneInfo.asp?N=680 and short info on

Re: Photos of new Sigmas

2002-09-19 Thread MPozzi
Fantasctic (120-300 f2.8!), and they have IS... Note that they are only going to be available in Sigma Nikon and Canon mounts... --- Sylwester Pietrzyk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Here are photos of newly announced Sigma lenses: http://www.photim.com/Infos/UneInfo.asp?N=680 and short info on

RE: Photos of new Sigmas

2002-09-19 Thread Rob Brigham
They need to wait for the Pentax to be released before they can backwards engineer it. Do I read this right that this means Sigma now have IS for their own bodies too? It must have been some work to backwards engineer both Nikon and Canon systems... -Original Message- From: MPozzi

Re: err.... umm....

2002-09-19 Thread Peter Alling
It's generally a rugged beast. It should be able to withstand a few rain drops. Just don't dunk it, or equivalent. Just remember this advice is free so don't complain if it's bad. (I have just admitted to smashing up a couple of cameras). At 05:17 PM 9/19/2002 +0530, you wrote: rather a

Re: Photos of new Sigmas

2002-09-19 Thread Sylwester Pietrzyk
Rob Brigham wrote: They need to wait for the Pentax to be released before they can backwards engineer it. Do I read this right that this means Sigma now have IS for their own bodies too? It must have been some work to backwards engineer both Nikon and Canon systems... I must admit

Re: Re: Re: Aaron's shop

2002-09-19 Thread David Brooks
Wee.My socks match g I'm planning to go to a friends cabin in Madawaska for Thanksgiving(Canadian one)an do some fall colours with the 6x6 and 35mm. Hopefully ther sun will be out this year. Dave Begin Original Message From: Jeff [EMAIL PROTECTED] Did the tell you that you have

Re: Aaron's shop

2002-09-19 Thread Peter Alling
What developer have you been using? At 10:13 AM 9/19/2002 -0400, Brendan wrote: don't drink the developer :-) despite the fact it tastes good --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I snagged a FREE (yep.. free) 35mm Enlarger a few weeks back from a guy who just wanted to get rid

RE: Dry firing (was sillycon film)

2002-09-19 Thread Peter Alling
Some of the older models don't, (no Pentax cameras that I am aware of), the manufactures supplied a cardboard insert that put a false leader with a small gap where the sprocket would sit to fool the camera into thinking it was loaded. At 04:20 PM 9/19/2002 +0100, you wrote: NO NO NO. Your

Re: Aaron's shop

2002-09-19 Thread Brendan
Agfa multicontrast stuff, smells like antifreeze, sweet aroma, not like the ilford fixer or stop bath. Microphen and perceptol both smell nasty to. oh the berger copper tonning solution has that anti freeze smell to. --- Peter Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What developer have you been using?

Re: Pentax Super Takumar 1:2.8/105 (Was: Pentax Gear)

2002-09-19 Thread David Brooks
I think you'll like it. Dave Begin Original Message From: James Adams [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tue, 17 Sep 2002 19:36:23 -0700 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Pentax Super Takumar 1:2.8/105 (Was: Pentax Gear) I have bought the Super Takumar 1:2.8/105 for $85CDN ($10 taxes).   Got to

RE: Silicon Film is still alive... (??????)

2002-09-19 Thread Peter Alling
Perhaps I should have cut out everything except the line I was replying to. Yes I know that modern cameras, (since at least 1940 something advance the film and cock the shutter at the same time). Some allow you to cock the shutter without advancing the film to facilitate multiple exposures but

Re: Photos of new Sigmas

2002-09-19 Thread Camdir
antasctic (120-300 f2.8!), and they have IS... Note that they are only going to be available in Sigma Nikon and Canon mounts... Yes, we are still working on that AF1.7x adapter with a nikon lens mount, don't you know. Now where did I put it.. Kind regards Peter

Re: err...ummm...

2002-09-19 Thread kleickly_pug
mike wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Very funny, Mark!! I like your sense of humor. Kathy also would like some advise regarding the upcoming pug theme 'juxtaposition' for december: Personally, I'm beside myself wondering what to do... -- Mark Roberts www.robertstech.com

RE: Photos of new Sigmas

2002-09-19 Thread Rubenstein, Bruce M (Bruce)
If they think that they can sell enough, then it is worth it. For Pentax (I haven't bought anything new in 20 years!) why bother. Right now IS and HSM are in the realm of rumor for Pentax: a patent is not a product announcement. Minolta announced 3 lenses quite some time ago with their version

Re: Pentax Binoculars?

2002-09-19 Thread Keith Whaley
Mike Ignatiev wrote: Have anyone had any experience with those? Specifically, I am interested in PCF V 20x60, which seem to be available for circa $139 from Cameraland. Also, anyone has dealt with this merchant? Best, Mishka This set is called top of the [full sized binocular] line by

Re: more Photkina information

2002-09-19 Thread Keith Whaley
Rubenstein, Bruce M (Bruce) wrote: It will not have a K mount. If you want a K mound DSLR, find a good machinist. You folks just don't get it. Well then, suppose you TELL us. keith whaley From: Rob Brigham ... is designed for professional digital still camera applications Don't

RE: Dry firing (was: Silicon film, etc)

2002-09-19 Thread Peter Alling
Now that's an interesting question. I'm not able to do any direct research since I don't own any other ZX models. At 05:33 PM 9/19/2002 +0100, you wrote: -Original Message- From: Peter Alling [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] At 04:37 PM 9/19/2002 +0100, you wrote: This is not my

RE: Dry firing (was: Silicon film, etc)

2002-09-19 Thread Rob Brigham
I will test properly with my MZ-30 tonight. Although I am sure I have had a misfeed in the past, I cannot state categorically this is the case without verification. -Original Message- From: Peter Alling [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 19 September 2002 17:49 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

RE: Dry firing (was sillycon film)

2002-09-19 Thread Herb Chong
Message text written by INTERNET:[EMAIL PROTECTED] NO NO NO. Your camera fires even if there is no film in it. This avoids the great problems of trying to convince it the film has wound successfully. Have you never tested a camera in a shop without film in? The shutter still fires. at what

Results of Pentax 28-35mm wide angle k-mount lens poll

2002-09-19 Thread Arnold Stark
Hello, dear PDMLers, here are the results of the Pentax 28-35mm wide angle k-mount lens poll. Everybody's first choice got 3 points. 2nd and 3rd choices got 2 and 1 points, respectively. Thus were obtained the winners, and the winners are. 1st place (50 points): SMC Pentax-FA 1:1.8 31mm

RE: Dry firing (was sillycon film)

2002-09-19 Thread Rob Brigham
At the indicated speed on the camera. You can use this on many older cameras to see the shutter curtains functioning. -Original Message- From: Herb Chong [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 19 September 2002 17:54 To: INTERNET:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Dry firing (was sillycon

testing

2002-09-19 Thread Feroze Kistan
testing 1...2...3, can you hear me

RE: testing

2002-09-19 Thread Rob Brigham
no -Original Message- From: Feroze Kistan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 19 September 2002 15:31 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: testing testing 1...2...3, can you hear me

RE: testing

2002-09-19 Thread Tom Sapienza
I think I heard a 4, but I must have been mistaken ... no -Original Message- From: Feroze Kistan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 19 September 2002 15:31 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: testing testing 1...2...3, can you hear me

Re: Pentax Binoculars?

2002-09-19 Thread Brad Dobo
I have had no experience, but I have heard many good things about their binoculars. I did try out their new digital binoculars, and they certainly felt good in hands and seemed really sharp. The digital pictures they take, however, ain't so good :) - Original Message - From: Mike

M42 or K-mount (or both) - OT

2002-09-19 Thread Francis Alviar
Help! I'm in a bit of a quagmire. Well, not really. I just have some spare time today so I decided to ask the group this question: Have you ever brought two different camera systems on vacation? Specifically I am referring to a Pentax K-mount system with 2 bodies, 4 lenses plus an M42 to

Re: M42 or K-mount (or both) - OT

2002-09-19 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: Francis Alviar Subject: M42 or K-mount (or both) - OT Have you ever brought two different camera systems on vacation? Yes, 35mm and 4x5. Or more recently, 35mm and 6x7. I might have taken all 3 on a trip once. William Robb This message is from the

Re: testing

2002-09-19 Thread Peter Alling
No, but I can read you just fine. At 04:30 PM 9/19/2002 +0200, you wrote: testing 1...2...3, can you hear me

SMC Pentax Super Wide K-Mount Lens Poll

2002-09-19 Thread Arnold Stark
Hello again, now here comes my SMC Pentax Super Wide K-Mount Lens Poll: Please imagine that you were having no super wide-angle lens for your K-mount camera. Also imagine that you have more than enough money and a good opportunity to buy a k-mount SMC Pentax super wide-angle lens. What lens

Re[2]: Pentax Binoculars?

2002-09-19 Thread Mike Ignatiev
Considering the fact that Adorama sells the next, waterproof version, for something like $180 -- I am not terribly surprised seeing Cameraland prices. But as far as msrp goes -- I have no idea, but wow!. Best, Mishka -Original Message- From: Keith Whaley [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject:

Running with bulls (semi-OT, but with pictures)

2002-09-19 Thread Juan J. Buhler
I posted another gallery to my site. This time they are color pictures, taken with a couple of disposable cameras just before and just after I run with the bulls in Pamplona this year. No pictures of the running itself because, well, I was running. I had a couple of Pentax cameras in the car

Re: more Photkina information

2002-09-19 Thread Frits J. Wüthrich
On Thursday 19 September 2002 15:28, Rob Brigham wrote: Don't know whose body Kodak is going to install it in? Pamela Anderson? -- Frits J. Wüthrich (Sent with Kmail)

Re: more Photkina information

2002-09-19 Thread gfen
On Thu, 19 Sep 2002, Frits J. [iso-8859-1] Wüthrich wrote: On Thursday 19 September 2002 15:28, Rob Brigham wrote: Don't know whose body Kodak is going to install it in? Pamela Anderson? She traded in her sillicon implants for one with a smaller megapixel rating. :) --

Re: more Photkina information

2002-09-19 Thread Peter Alling
I think I'd actually like to see that. Then again all things considered probably not. At 07:44 PM 9/19/2002 +0100, you wrote: On Thursday 19 September 2002 15:28, Rob Brigham wrote: Don't know whose body Kodak is going to install it in? Pamela Anderson? -- Frits J. Wüthrich (Sent with Kmail)

Re[2]: more Photkina information

2002-09-19 Thread Bob Walkden
Hi, Thursday, September 19, 2002, 1:22:23 PM, you wrote: Hi, Keith wrote: ?? 'Chamboulé' is not in my Larousse Français-Anglais Dictionnaire! g I don't know what it means either but it does _sound_ like a good verb for describing the digital SLR market mike (whacking great

Re: SMC Pentax Super Wide K-Mount Lens Poll

2002-09-19 Thread Bruce Dayton
Arnold, Why did you leave out the fisheye zoom? Truly the most unique lens in the ultra wides from any manufacturer. Bruce Thursday, September 19, 2002, 11:30:25 AM, you wrote: AS Hello again, now here comes my SMC Pentax Super Wide K-Mount Lens Poll: AS Please imagine that you were

Re: more Photkina information

2002-09-19 Thread gfen
On Thu, 19 Sep 2002, Peter Alling wrote: I think I'd actually like to see that. Then again all things considered probably not. This comes back to the procotology camera someone sent out a week or so ago, doesn't it? -- http://www.infotainment.org The destructive character is

Re: SMC Pentax Super Wide K-Mount Lens Poll

2002-09-19 Thread Bruce Dayton
Arnold, My first choice is for the write in candidate - Fisheye 17-35 zoom. I have one of these and have found it to be more versatile and usable than just a straight fisheye. Many scenes call for wider than a 15-20 rectilinear, but not a full 180 degree fisheye. The only lens that can handle

Re: Running with bulls (semi-OT, but with pictures)

2002-09-19 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: Juan J. Buhler Subject: Running with bulls (semi-OT, but with pictures) Again, I tried to edit things coherently so they work as a group, and ended up with 20 frames out of 65 or so. I have very mixed feelings about these images, but still wanted to go

RE: more Photkina information

2002-09-19 Thread Rubenstein, Bruce M (Bruce)
Care to make a little wager? I bet Pentax doesn't show any DSLR that goes on sale this year. From: Rob Brigham [EMAIL PROTECTED] Whether we get a D-SLR soon or not, only time will tell. We can still hope. Without hope the world would be a poorer place. You try to destroy our hope with no

Re: SMC Pentax Super Wide K-Mount Lens Poll

2002-09-19 Thread U+B Scheffler
Perhaps there comes a zoom-lens-poll later? Regards Bernd --original message-- Date: Thu, 19 Sep 2002 12:34:09 -0700 From: Bruce Dayton [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Arnold Stark [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: SMC Pentax Super Wide K-Mount Lens Poll Message-ID: [EMAIL

Re: Running with bulls (semi-OT, but with pictures)

2002-09-19 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
Actually, I think the bull run is more human than the bull fights themselves. At least in the run, the bulls seem to gore or trample more humans than in the corrida. Dan William Robb wrote: I am wondering what is causing your misgivings about the series of pictures? For myself, they leave

Re: Tokina [or VS1] Macro Extender w/ Other Lenses

2002-09-19 Thread U+B Scheffler
This is no answer to the concrete question but I think it's worth to be mentioned: Some months ago I got a +++ Kenko 2x KAX Macro Teleplus MC7 +++ on ebay and thought it would be a nice thing to play with. The price was raesonable and no real risk. And I found: the results are very fine! It

Re: more Photkina information

2002-09-19 Thread Bill Owens
If I were a betting man, I'd wager they'll show a DSLR that goes on sale next year. Bill - Original Message - From: Rubenstein, Bruce M (Bruce) [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, September 19, 2002 4:19 PM Subject: RE: more Photkina information Care to make a

Re: M42 or K-mount (or both) - OT

2002-09-19 Thread frank theriault
On my recent vacation to the Magdellan Islands in the Gulf of St. Lawrence, I brought my MX, along with a k-mount short zoom, a long zoom and a wide angle prime. I also brought my Leica CL. I used the k-mount stuff for colour, and the CL for bw. I brought the CL in addition to the MX as it's

Re: Running with bulls (semi-OT, but with pictures)

2002-09-19 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: Daniel J. Matyola Subject: Re: Running with bulls (semi-OT, but with pictures) Actually, I think the bull run is more human than the bull fights themselves. At least in the run, the bulls seem to gore or trample more humans than in the corrida. Don't get

Re: M42 or K-mount (or both) - OT

2002-09-19 Thread Mark Roberts
Francis Alviar wrote: Have you ever brought two different camera systems on vacation? I do it all the time: 35mm and 645. -- Mark Roberts www.robertstech.com Photography and writing

SMC Pentax Super Wide K-Mount Lens Poll

2002-09-19 Thread Camdir
Arnold. 1. 15mm F3.5 A - a right corker. 2. 20mm F4 M - pocket marvel 3. 20mm F2.8 A - little bit bigger, little bit sharper. And I have had 'em all. Peter

Re: SMC Pentax Super Wide K-Mount Lens Poll

2002-09-19 Thread Keith Whaley
Arnold, You don't have a category of other but I only have one super wide angle, a Vivitar 19mm f/3.8-22.0. Probably nearly equivalent to the SMC A 20mm f/2.8. PK-A/R mount 9 elements, 8 groups, multi-coated 97 deg. accept. angle Min. focus 0.2 meters [that's 8, folks!] Might be a great macro,

Re: Running with bulls (semi-OT, but with pictures)

2002-09-19 Thread Keith Whaley
William Robb wrote: - Original Message - From: Daniel J. Matyola Subject: Re: Running with bulls (semi-OT, but with pictures) Actually, I think the bull run is more human than the bull fights themselves. At least in the run, the bulls seem to gore or trample more humans

Re: Running with bulls (semi-OT, but with pictures)

2002-09-19 Thread Pat White
Running with bulls? You've got (a lot) more nerve than me! Pat White

RE: more Photkina information

2002-09-19 Thread Rob Brigham
How about I bet a 2002 Pentax D-SLR and you bet a 2002 Canon D-SLR? Heads I win, tales you lose!! -Original Message- From: Rubenstein, Bruce M (Bruce) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 19 September 2002 21:19 To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Subject: RE: more Photkina information Care

Re: For Sale Thursday - topical wide angle goodies

2002-09-19 Thread frank theriault
I've recently got back the first few rolls taken with my Vivitar S1 3.8 24-48 zoom (I assume yours is a Series 1, Peter?), and I must say, I'm blown away by it. At 24mm, no distortion whatsoever. Lines are straight, right out to the edges. And it's sharp right out to the edges as well. This is

Re: Running with bulls (semi-OT, but with pictures)

2002-09-19 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: Keith Whaley Subject: Re: Running with bulls (semi-OT, but with pictures) Really! Up to now, I've rather liked your comments here and there. I'd just as soon keep it insipid, rather than get all het-up over a bullfight or two... I'm so glad you like my

RE: For Sale Thursday - topical wide angle goodies

2002-09-19 Thread David Chang-Sang
SH!! I was thinking of snagging this lens :) I wasn't sure if it was the same one you had Frank.. but knowing that it is.. I'd be keenly interested :) Cheers, Dave -Original Message- From: frank theriault [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, September 19, 2002 4:56

Re: err.... umm....

2002-09-19 Thread frank theriault
Having several Spotmatics, which are pretty similar to the K1000, except in screwmount, I can tell you that I've had mine out in the rain on occasion, with no problems. Of course, I try to keep things covered, and wipe off as much as possible, but they have gotten rather wet (at least on the

Re: err.... umm....

2002-09-19 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: frank theriault Subject: Re: err umm In terms of PUG, the themes are pretty liberally interpreted. In fact, for me, that's part of the fun of looking through the gallery on themed months: to see how many ways folks can interpret the same theme.

Re: SMC Pentax Super Wide K-Mount Lens Poll

2002-09-19 Thread Keith Whaley
Keith Whaley wrote: Arnold, You don't have a category of other but I only have one super wide angle, a Vivitar 19mm f/3.8-22.0. Probably nearly equivalent to the SMC A 20mm f/2.8. Oooops! I should have said the K 18 f/3.5! = rest snipped =

photo shops in Syracuse NY

2002-09-19 Thread tom
I have a job in Syracuse this weekend...do any of you know of any decent photo shops there? Thanks. tv

Re: Running with bulls (semi-OT, but with pictures)

2002-09-19 Thread Pat White
Frank, the difference is that, unlike bulls, motorcycles don't have inherently bad attitudes. I'm not afraid to approach even a herd of motorcycles, but a herd of bulls? And while a red flag may excite a bull, a checkered flag would cause my bike to slow down and enter the paddock. vbg in

RE: M42 or K-mount (or both) - OT

2002-09-19 Thread J. C. O'Connell
I would never take my P67 on a vacation, way too bulky once you consider taking a few lenses. For medium format on the go, I like my folding RF Zeiss Super Ikonta C ( 6X9 cm ). It's got a sharp Tessar Lens ( when stopped down to f8 or smaller) and its actually smaller than a 35mm SLR when folded.

Re: Running with bulls (semi-OT, but with pictures)

2002-09-19 Thread Paul Jones
Motorbikes dont have a brain of there own, so they do what they you tell them to, except when its wet :) Heres a group question: How fast has your pentax gone? my MZ-S did 270kmh on the back of my last motorbike :) not sure what that is in miles, but its fast. Regards, Paul - Original

Re: SMC Pentax Super Wide K-Mount Lens Poll

2002-09-19 Thread William Johnson
Hi, 1) A16/2.8 Fish-eye and if that was not available, then 2) K17/4 Fish-eye, 3) K18/3.5 William in Utah. 9/19/2002 12:30:25 PM, Arnold Stark [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello again, now here comes my SMC Pentax Super Wide K-Mount Lens Poll: Please imagine that you were having no super

Re: SMC Pentax Super Wide K-Mount Lens Poll

2002-09-19 Thread William Johnson
9/19/2002 3:13:48 PM, Keith Whaley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Arnold, You don't have a category of other but I only have one super wide angle, a Vivitar 19mm f/3.8-22.0. snip I'd appreciate anyone else's word on their experience with one. Hi Keith, I had one for about 8 yearsI found it

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