Re: Lens Blur Filter - Photoshop

2006-08-13 Thread Don Williams
Hi Shel, The video is great (the presentation grates the nerves a bit) but I like the step by step approach that leaves nothing out. Don Shel Belinkoff wrote: Because of the greater DOF from the APS-C sized sensor, and the sometimes slower lenses available for digital cameras, this filter

Re: Another Blow Against Photography

2006-08-13 Thread keith_w
David Mann wrote: On Aug 13, 2006, at 2:43 PM, William Robb wrote: Isn't there some sort of rule that when Hitler gets mentioned, the arguement is over, the battle lost? Godwin's Law. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Godwin's_law - Dave Good call! -- keith whaley -- PDML

Re: Another Blow Against Photography

2006-08-13 Thread keith_w
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Another bit of liberal nonsense :-) -- Original message -- From: William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED] Isn't there some sort of rule that when Hitler gets mentioned, the arguement is over, the battle lost? Not quite so, Paul... The

Re: Another Blow Against Photography

2006-08-13 Thread John Forbes
On Sat, 12 Aug 2006 22:59:20 +0100, William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: - Original Message - From: John Forbes Subject: Re: Another Blow Against Photography Removing the conditions that lead to terrorism is another way. That is the lesson learned from Northern Ireland and it

Re: Another Blow Against Photography

2006-08-13 Thread John Forbes
On Sun, 13 Aug 2006 00:11:21 +0100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Utter nonsense. Blaming radical behavior on poverty and bad conditions is the old liberal excuse for everyone who can't behave. It no longer holds water. Really? Why? Never has. Really again?? Is that why Hitler wanted to

Re: PESO: Building Chicago

2006-08-13 Thread Ann Sanfedele
A bit too light on mine - YOu struck terror into my heart with this one, Paul please tell me they are not tearing down the Best Western Inn of Chicago, nee , the ST Claire Hotel. The first home I remember. In my neighborhood, I have to navigate around one like this to get to the recent happy

Re: PESO: Building Chicago

2006-08-13 Thread pnstenquist
Hi Ann, Yes, I'll have to look at this on my home monitor. I think the St. Claire is still intact. I'll try to look. I'm going out for a walk this morning. Then it's a Sox game this afternoon and back to Michigan tonight. Paul -- Original message -- From: Ann

Antishake, Pentax style

2006-08-13 Thread William Robb
I took the big gun down to Don's Photo yesterday to try out the K100D. It's a nice little camera, though not up to the finish if the istD. I was primarily interested in seeing if the antishake worked, so I did a couple of shots for comparative purposes. Both pictures were shot with the A600/5.6

Re: Antishake, Pentax style

2006-08-13 Thread pnstenquist
A significant difference to be sure. I'd love to see more tests, perhaps with some subject where it's easy to determine what the focal point was and with the stop set at 5.6. Paul -- Original message -- From: William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED] I took the big gun

Re: Antishake, Pentax style

2006-08-13 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Antishake, Pentax style A significant difference to be sure. I'd love to see more tests, perhaps with some subject where it's easy to determine what the focal point was and with the stop set at 5.6. Hmmm, I think I can mount

Re: Antishake, Pentax style

2006-08-13 Thread David Savage
I'm impressed for 2 reasons. 1. In camera shake reduction looks to work very well, 2. You can hand hold that lens. Dave On 8/13/06, William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I took the big gun down to Don's Photo yesterday to try out the K100D. It's a nice little camera, though not up to the

Re: Antishake, Pentax style

2006-08-13 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: David Savage Subject: Re: Antishake, Pentax style I'm impressed for 2 reasons. 1. In camera shake reduction looks to work very well, 2. You can hand hold that lens. The construction work seems to be keeping me in pretty good shape. The 600 wasn't all

PDML Mini-FAQ Link

2006-08-13 Thread gray_wolf
http://www.graywolfphoto.com/pentax/pdml-faq.html -- graywolf http://www.graywolfphoto.com http://webpages.charter.net/graywolf Idiot Proof == Expert Proof --- -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net

Re: Antishake, Pentax style

2006-08-13 Thread John Forbes
On Sun, 13 Aug 2006 14:54:11 +0100, David Savage [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm impressed for 2 reasons. 1. In camera shake reduction looks to work very well, 2. You can hand hold that lens. 2 follows from 1. John Dave On 8/13/06, William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I took the big

Re: Another Blow Against Photography

2006-08-13 Thread graywolf
The issues there are the same as they are elsewhere. The people who want power over others can not get it in a free election, so they will do it with whatever means is at hand. One of the most noticeable things about terrorism is that their leaders are not the ones doing it. If they were it

Re: Another Blow Against Photography

2006-08-13 Thread Adam Maas
John Forbes wrote: On Sat, 12 Aug 2006 22:59:20 +0100, William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: - Original Message - From: John Forbes Subject: Re: Another Blow Against Photography Removing the conditions that lead to terrorism is another way. That is the lesson learned from

Re: Another Blow Against Photography

2006-08-13 Thread graywolf
Yes, Bob, that is why a multi-millionaire becomes a terrorist leader. Seems like he could do better spreading some of that money around amongst the poor. The fact is, the poor are hardly ever revolutionists, they are too busy trying to put food in their children's mouths to get involved. It is

Re: Antishake, Pentax style

2006-08-13 Thread Adam Maas
John Forbes wrote: On Sun, 13 Aug 2006 14:54:11 +0100, David Savage [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm impressed for 2 reasons. 1. In camera shake reduction looks to work very well, 2. You can hand hold that lens. 2 follows from 1. John Not exactly, the 600 is big enough that many

Re: Antishake, Pentax style

2006-08-13 Thread John Forbes
Any comments on AF and buffer and RAW write speed? Given the price, this camera should be a killer. John On Sun, 13 Aug 2006 14:55:27 +0100, William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Antishake, Pentax style A significant

Re: Antishake, Pentax style

2006-08-13 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: John Forbes Subject: Re: Antishake, Pentax style Any comments on AF and buffer and RAW write speed? I only had a few minutes (my wife gets twitchy in camera stores) and a 32mb card. I'll definitely play with it some more on Monday. Given the price, this

Re: Antishake, Pentax style

2006-08-13 Thread John Forbes
Point taken; I've just looked up the weight. 6,800 kgs. John On Sun, 13 Aug 2006 15:33:31 +0100, Adam Maas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: John Forbes wrote: On Sun, 13 Aug 2006 14:54:11 +0100, David Savage [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm impressed for 2 reasons. 1. In camera shake reduction

Re: Another Blow Against Photography

2006-08-13 Thread John Forbes
But unless the fomenters have a broad base of support, they will get nowhere. It is a perception of injustice on the part of a large proportion of the population that allows a revolutionary/resistance/terrorist movement to flourish. John On Sun, 13 Aug 2006 15:35:14 +0100, graywolf [EMAIL

Re: Antishake, Pentax style

2006-08-13 Thread Bob Shell
On Aug 13, 2006, at 11:02 AM, John Forbes wrote: Point taken; I've just looked up the weight. 6,800 kgs. Ummm, lessee, you use how many tripods with that? Bob -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net

RE: Another Blow Against Photography

2006-08-13 Thread Bob W
as somebody else pointed out (possibly you) it's not the multi-millionaires who are blowing themselves up. They are power-mongers who take advantage of the grievances of the ordinary people to convince a small number of deluded people into blowing themselves and others up. The British and other

Re: Fuji F30 ISO noise (was: Perhaps OT: Recommended PS for under $200?)

2006-08-13 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
On Aug 12, 2006, at 7:22 AM, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: The Fuji F30 I ordered just arrived. ... Make sure to post some high-ISO samples! Copying this response to a couple other of my photo mailing lists so for context ... Long and short of it is that I decided to give the Fuji F30 a try,

Re: Antishake, Pentax style

2006-08-13 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: Bob Shell Subject: Re: Antishake, Pentax style On Aug 13, 2006, at 11:02 AM, John Forbes wrote: Point taken; I've just looked up the weight. 6,800 kgs. Ummm, lessee, you use how many tripods with that? Or one badass Canadian... William Robb

Re: Antishake, Pentax style

2006-08-13 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: John Forbes Subject: Re: Antishake, Pentax style Point taken; I've just looked up the weight. 6,800 kgs. My word, and little old me can handhold it. You want to get in shape, become a contractor. HAR!!! William Robb -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List

Re: Lens Blur Filter - Photoshop

2006-08-13 Thread George Sinos
Russell Brown is one of those guys that has the gift of clearly explaining relatively complex topics. Combine this with his knowledge of Photoshop and you have a guy that can create excellent tutorials His style is a bit odd. He reminds me a bit of a combination of Mr. Rogers and Bill Nye the

Re: Antishake, Pentax style

2006-08-13 Thread John Forbes
Slight confusion with the units there! But even at 6,800 gms it's heavy. John On Sun, 13 Aug 2006 17:01:41 +0100, William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: - Original Message - From: John Forbes Subject: Re: Antishake, Pentax style Point taken; I've just looked up the weight.

Re: Antishake, Pentax style

2006-08-13 Thread Charles Robinson
On Aug 13, 2006, at 8:15, William Robb wrote: Both pictures were shot with the A600/5.6 handheld. I wasn't making a really scientific thing out of it, so I left the camera on program, and let it do it's thing. I suspect the shutter speed was close to 1/500, but the EXIF data is missing this

Re: Antishake, Pentax style

2006-08-13 Thread George Sinos
Bill and all - I had an interesting Anti-shake experience last weekend. I've mentioned before that I teach photography classes at the local community college. In the basic class I connect the AV output of a point and shoot camera to the classroom video projector. This allows the group to see

PESO: Columbine

2006-08-13 Thread Jack Davis
Set this up with the sun hitting the blossom and a black valuer background cloth draped over a chair back. The lens, of course, protected by being shaded from the sun. DOF vs image size always an issue on macros. OK, so I atomized it a squirt. ;-) MZ-S (manual), A*100 f/2.8 mac., Provia 100F,

Re: Antishake, Pentax style

2006-08-13 Thread Bob Shell
On Aug 13, 2006, at 12:55 PM, George Sinos wrote: Now that Sony and Samsung have Anti-shake camera bodies, I'm guessing Canon and Nikon will, at least, need to put it in their entry level bodies. In a couple of years, selling a consumer camera with out Anti-shake will be like trying to sell

Re: Antishake, Pentax style

2006-08-13 Thread Jack Davis
I seem to remember Minolta branded AF binoculars on the market several years back. Hadn't remembered that 'til now, and that may be due to their lack of acceptance.(?) Jack --- Bob Shell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Aug 13, 2006, at 12:55 PM, George Sinos wrote: Now that Sony and Samsung

Re: Antishake, Pentax style

2006-08-13 Thread Aaron Reynolds
On Aug 13, 2006, at 2:06 PM, Bob Shell wrote: Like most of Nikon's point and shoot film cameras, it was actually made by a company called Goko. I saw the Goko catalog of cameras you could buy and have branded as your own (if purchasing in enough quantity) a handful of times -- the gag

PESO - Shortened

2006-08-13 Thread Adam Maas
Dunno why I like this shot, but I do. http://www.flickr.com/photos/mawz/214316721/ For non-flickr users who want to see it large: http://static.flickr.com/82/214316721_56ab47b2d4_b.jpg LX, Kiron 28/2, Acros 100 in Rodinal 1:50. -Adam -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net

Re: Antishake, Pentax style

2006-08-13 Thread John Francis
On Sun, Aug 13, 2006 at 11:22:15AM -0700, Jack Davis wrote: I seem to remember Minolta branded AF binoculars on the market several years back. Hadn't remembered that 'til now, and that may be due to their lack of acceptance.(?) Jack I've still got a pair somewhere - I think they're 10x50s.

Re: Antishake, Pentax style

2006-08-13 Thread Jack Davis
I imagine she's right, what with that light gathering glass and mechanism. Two 7x30's made of some modern alloy could be worn as earrings. :) Jack --- John Francis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sun, Aug 13, 2006 at 11:22:15AM -0700, Jack Davis wrote: I seem to remember Minolta branded AF

Re: Antishake, Pentax style

2006-08-13 Thread Mark Roberts
William Robb wrote: http://users.accesscomm.ca/wrobb/temp/antishake/ Wow. -- Mark Roberts Photography Multimedia www.robertstech.com 412-687-2835 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net

Re: Antishake, Pentax style

2006-08-13 Thread Kenneth Waller
I've just looked up the weight. 6,800 kgs. That's the weight of the 600 FA, times 1000. The A 600 f5.6 is listed as 3280g. Kenneth Waller - Original Message - From: John Forbes [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Sent: Sunday, August 13, 2006 11:02 AM

Re: Antishake, Pentax style

2006-08-13 Thread Kenneth Waller
Pretty impressive. Would boost my numbers of keepers. Kenneth Waller - Original Message - From: William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Pentax Discuss PDML@pdml.net Sent: Sunday, August 13, 2006 9:15 AM Subject: Antishake, Pentax style I took the big gun down to Don's Photo yesterday to

Re: Antishake, Pentax style

2006-08-13 Thread John Francis
On Sun, Aug 13, 2006 at 07:37:39PM -0400, Kenneth Waller wrote: I've just looked up the weight. 6,800 kgs. That's the weight of the 600 FA, times 1000. Not everybody uses the same decimal point indicator ... -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net

Holy Crap -- Pentax 10MP body

2006-08-13 Thread Aaron Reynolds
I have just learned something about it that pretty much seals the deal -- I'll be buying it if I have to sell a kidney to do it. It addresses my most basic complaint about digital. It's a feature that's so much of a no-brainer, and yet as far as I know not a single DSLR out there at any

Re: Holy Crap -- Pentax 10MP body

2006-08-13 Thread Mat Maessen
On 8/13/06, Aaron Reynolds [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have just learned something about it that pretty much seals the deal There's a take the picture the way I want it to come out mode? -Mat -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net

Re: Holy Crap -- Pentax 10MP body

2006-08-13 Thread David Savage
WTF?!? Aaron, you can't write a post like that and then not spill the beans. ;-) Dave On 8/14/06, Aaron Reynolds [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have just learned something about it that pretty much seals the deal -- I'll be buying it if I have to sell a kidney to do it. It addresses my most

Re: Holy Crap -- Pentax 10MP body

2006-08-13 Thread David Weiss
Ah, Aaron, this is like putting the presents under the Christmas tree and jiggling them, and not letting us open the box! Let's see, are cameras WIFI yet? Solar operated no need of batteries? Dave --- Aaron Reynolds [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have just learned something about it that

Re: Antishake, Pentax style

2006-08-13 Thread Butch Black
Yes, but at least you don't need a freight car to transport the lens Butch Slight confusion with the units there! But even at 6,800 gms it's heavy. John On Sun, 13 Aug 2006 17:01:41 +0100, William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: - Original Message - From: John Forbes Subject: Re:

Re: PESO: Me and My Mom

2006-08-13 Thread Paul Stenquist
Thanks Marnie. Had a lot of fun shooting in Chicago today. I'll post some more soon. Paul On Aug 12, 2006, at 2:35 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 8/11/2006 7:51:01 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I'm in Chicago. I was shooting on the street, and these two

PESO: Ann's Hotel

2006-08-13 Thread Paul Stenquist
Rest easy Ann. The St. Claire Hotel (now a Best Western Inn) is alive and well on Chicago's Ohio Street. Shot it this morning on my way to breakfast. No room to shoot on the narrow street, so I used the DA 12-24/4 at 12mm focal length, f11 @1/180th, ISO200. Did some perspective correction

Re: Antishake, Pentax style

2006-08-13 Thread David S.
William Robb wrote: I took the big gun down to Don's Photo yesterday to try out the K100D. It's a nice little camera, though not up to the finish if the istD. I was primarily interested in seeing if the antishake worked, so I did a couple of shots for comparative purposes. Both pictures

Re: Holy Crap -- Pentax 10MP body

2006-08-13 Thread Brendan MacRae
Great! Now we're all completely tortured. My buddy just did this to me over the Xeon powered Pro Macs that were just announced...now I get to wait all over again. Sheesh! How about a hint? -Brendan --- Aaron Reynolds [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have just learned something about it that pretty

Re: PESO - Dot... Wait

2006-08-13 Thread P. J. Alling
You get used to it. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 8/9/2006 8:58:48 AM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Our dog Dot, a Blue Heeler, after a romp in the water. http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=4776813 Tom C. === Very nice shot -- good portrait. BTW,

Re: RE Compare ways for antishake

2006-08-13 Thread P. J. Alling
There seems to be a menu item for entering the lens' focal length. I've only seen pictures of the Japanese ideographs so I don't know more than that. Bengt Falke wrote: In our Canon S3 IS there is a setting for when it is used together with a converter in font of the lens so I guess that the

PESO _--_Mock Amphorae

2006-08-13 Thread P. J. Alling
Had to be away for a few days, but I did see a few interesting images. http://www.mindspring.com/~megazip/PESO_--_mockamphora.html Technical Information: None, it's late and I'm tired and I'm going to bed. As usual comments are welcome, but may be totally ignored., -- When you're worried or

Re: Holy Crap -- Pentax 10MP body

2006-08-13 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
Intriguing. I await more information ... ;-) Godfrey On Aug 13, 2006, at 6:01 PM, Aaron Reynolds wrote: I have just learned something about it that pretty much seals the deal -- I'll be buying it if I have to sell a kidney to do it. It addresses my most basic complaint about digital.

PESO -- Sometimes Nature Needs a Crutch.

2006-08-13 Thread P. J. Alling
http://www.mindspring.com/~megazip/PESO_--_natureneedsacrutch.html Folding Beach Chair$25.00 at Job Lot. Aluminum Side Table $59.95 at IKEA. Sunburst Ornament $21.99 at Pier One. Crutch to keep that pesky branch out of your face, priceless... No technical data, it's late I'm tired and

Re: PESO: Ann's Hotel

2006-08-13 Thread keith_w
Paul Stenquist wrote: Rest easy Ann. The St. Claire Hotel (now a Best Western Inn) is alive and well on Chicago's Ohio Street. Shot it this morning on my way to breakfast. No room to shoot on the narrow street, so I used the DA 12-24/4 at 12mm focal length, f11 @1/180th, ISO200. Did some

Re: PESO: Ann's Hotel

2006-08-13 Thread David Savage
On 8/14/06, keith_w [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Paul Stenquist wrote: http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=4802834 Well done, Paul. That's a skill I need to develop! I can't derive the data from your photo, but may I assume it was taken with a *ist-D? And if so, on that body,

Re: Holy Crap -- Pentax 10MP body

2006-08-13 Thread John Francis
Well, *my* biggest complaint about digital SLRs is the susceptibility to dust. A sensor with in-camera SR has an obvious approach to this problem; shake the sensor very fast to shake the dust off. This is used in the Olympus E-series bodies, and also in the new Sony A100 (which uses the 10.2MP