Re: Global warming was: The Nine-spotted

2007-06-13 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: P. J. Alling Subject: Re: Global warming was: The Nine-spotted Sustainability is a myth, so far progress has worked much better. (In fact it's given a lot of people the luxury to worry about the planet, rather than were their next meal is coming from).

Re: fuel

2007-06-13 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: ann sanfedele Subject: PESO: fuel http://tinyurl.com/ysm7z6 make,model and year to be revealed by one of you... I only know part of it Post 1975 Super Beetle. William Robb -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net

Re: Sigma 300/2.8 DG for Pentax

2007-06-13 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: Doug Franklin Subject: Re: Sigma 300/2.8 DG for Pentax By the logic you're using above, it seems to me there'd be no reason for them to have replaced the FA series withe DA series. I can't imagine how a 50-200/4.5-5.6 for full frame could be as small

Re: Global warming was: The Nine-spotted

2007-06-13 Thread Steve Sharpe
At 6:31 PM -0400 6/12/07, Christian wrote: Tom C wrote: To turn about face then, and think that these systems and mechanisms, which has taken individual humans lifetimes, and the human race, arguably thousands of years to reach the point of beginning to understand, had no designer...

Re: Global warming was: The Nine-spotted

2007-06-13 Thread P. J. Alling
Another fallacy, you don't have to believe it if you don't want to, but the reason why Julian L. Simon won his bet with Paul Ehrlich is the same reason we'll not run out of resources. You can read about it here if you want to. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ehrlich-Simon_bet In fact one one

Re: Enablement: Clothes / Walking Billboard

2007-06-13 Thread Bertil Holmberg
Thanks for the link, John, I've purchased one too :D One can always use another tee and my mum tells me I look good in red. Now I just have to get a pair of red Crocs too... Bertil http://tinyurl.com/2adjoe I find it amusing that ad is part of the TinyURL address. I'm ready for the next

Re: Global warming was: The Nine-spotted

2007-06-13 Thread Bob Blakely
Some theories are eventually proven to be fact. At one time, the earth was thought to be round. The ancient Greeks had even estimated it's size, but with what was known and what could be observed at the time, we would have to say it was a theory. Today, we have seen it for our selves. It's no

Re: Sigma 300/2.8 DG for Pentax

2007-06-13 Thread AlunFoto
If you compare the two most recent 600mm constructions in the K-mount to their siblings of same max. aperture in 645 and 67 respectively, you get diverging results. The 67 600/4 is actually lighter than the corresponding FA*, while the 645-A* 600/5.6 is considerably heavier than its K-mount

Re: Sigma 300/2.8 DG for Pentax

2007-06-13 Thread John Sessoms
From: Doug Franklin AlunFoto wrote: I don't think the 600mm part refers to a separate lens. It comes just after the text APO TELE CONVERTER 2xEX . :-) Since I can't read Japanese, and Babelfish is kinda hopeless on most Asian language translations, I wasn't sure. I must

Re: Global warming was: The Nine-spotted

2007-06-13 Thread AlunFoto
2007/6/12, William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED]: People will believe what they find convenient to believe. Mark!! -- http://www.alunfoto.no/galleri/ http://alunfoto.blogspot.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net

Re: Sigma 300/2.8 DG for Pentax

2007-06-13 Thread Sylwester Pietrzyk
On 13.06.2007, at 08:19 , William Robb wrote: The 12-24mm zoom is huge 12-24 for FF would be even bigger. Look at Sigma 12-24 - it is bigger (87 mm x 102.5 mm vs. 84 mm × 87.5 mm) and havier (600 g vs. 430 g) than DA 12-24/4. And Sigma is f4.5-5.6 lens, not fixed f4 like Pentax. Oh and

Re: Sigma 300/2.8 DG for Pentax

2007-06-13 Thread Sylwester Pietrzyk
On 13.06.2007, at 06:30 , John Sessoms wrote: I don't think Sigma's DG indicates it's for digital crop. They use DA to indicate that. Not DA but rather DC to be exact ;-) DA is used by Pentax. Cheers, Sylwek -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net

Re: Pentax marketing

2007-06-13 Thread mike wilson
From: Stan Halpin [EMAIL PROTECTED] But fishing? Somebody unreeled a too-good-to-be-true offer and Pentax went for it, hook, line and sinker... Pentax produces a line of small, waterproof compacts. Fishing is one of, if not the, most popular pastimes (if you categorise sport

Re: Pentax marketing

2007-06-13 Thread AlunFoto
It's all about seeing it from the right angle, isn't it. Jostein 2007/6/13, ann sanfedele [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Mark Roberts wrote: ann sanfedele wrote: Tom C wrote: Tom Reese wrote: this Pentax marketing deal seems a bit odd:

Re: Pentax marketing

2007-06-13 Thread AlunFoto
2007/6/13, mike wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Pentax produces a line of small, waterproof compacts. Fishing is one of, if not the, most popular pastimes (if you categorise sport patricipation with a broad brush, it's at the top of _that_ list) in the UK. Seems like a good move to me. I agree.

Re: PESO: GFM and the road there

2007-06-13 Thread Cotty
On 13/6/07, ann sanfedele, discombobulated, unleashed: Ok - I got stuff up finally http://tinyurl.com/yqkqpg sorry there were not more snaps I liked of friends there... but others got good stuff. Nice pics Ann, thanks for posting. -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People,

Re: GESO : Refused by PentaxGallery so far...

2007-06-13 Thread AlunFoto
Ken, I agree with your observations on colour. The ones I have got in have more spiff. :-) From flipping through the works of many photographers, it seems to me they have a preference for renderings that could have come straight from Kodak E100VS. The Velvia-greens and -reds are less prevalent.

Re: GESO : Refused by PentaxGallery so far...

2007-06-13 Thread AlunFoto
P.J. and TomC, What do you have to lose? Jostein 2007/6/13, P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Viewing rejects like that makes me even less likely to submit anything... AlunFoto wrote: To those who are interested, here's a collection of the pictures Pentax didn't want from me so far. Most of

Re: GESO : Refused by PentaxGallery so far...

2007-06-13 Thread AlunFoto
lol. Nice title. I may adopt that unless you have the copyright...:-) Thanks for looking, too. Jostein 2007/6/12, Bob W [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Some nice pictures there. You should call it Le Salon des Refusés. You never know what it might lead to. -- Bob -Original Message- From:

Re: GESO : Refused by PentaxGallery so far...

2007-06-13 Thread AlunFoto
2007/6/13, Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Yes, I think so. But as they received more submissions than they thought they might, they raised the bar. I've seen evidence of that. Overall, I'd say they're doing a good job. I agree. Flipping through the gallery is quite enjoyable. Jostein --

Re: GESO : Refused by PentaxGallery so far...

2007-06-13 Thread AlunFoto
Thanks Brian. Jostein 2007/6/13, Brian Walters [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Yes, some really nice images there. I particularly like numbers 3, 22 and 27. Cheers Brian ++ Brian Walters Western Sydney, Australia http://members.westnet.com.au/brianwal/SL/ Quoting

Re: PESO: fuel

2007-06-13 Thread Paul Stenquist
Nice one. Well composed. I believe it's a 1970 VW Beatle. On Jun 12, 2007, at 10:07 PM, ann sanfedele wrote: http://tinyurl.com/ysm7z6 make,model and year to be revealed by one of you... I only know part of it ann -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net

Re: GESO : Refused by PentaxGallery so far...

2007-06-13 Thread AlunFoto
Thanks Jack, I tend to think of the Pentax gallery akin to a photo competition. It's utterly down to the judges' preferences. Which is not a bad thing, just sometimes incomprehensible. IOW, very much like life...:-) Jostein 2007/6/12, Jack Davis [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Some nice stuff. Surprises me

Re: GESO : Refused by PentaxGallery so far...

2007-06-13 Thread AlunFoto
You're too kind, Ann. If they were anti-European, I don't think they'd let me in at all...:-) But seriously. I've had the luck to be given a few vintages of the Pentax Photo Annual, a book series produced by Pentax Japan. It's very interesting to study those books, because the prevalent

Re: Global warming was: The Nine-spotted

2007-06-13 Thread AlunFoto
I'd say it's a bigger fallacy to equate all the world's resources to the situation for five specific metals. For example, humans can't regenerate fossil fuels from its waste products. Jostein 2007/6/13, P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Another fallacy, you don't have to believe it if you don't

Re: Global warming was: The Nine-spotted

2007-06-13 Thread AlunFoto
Human brain development may well be a runaway evolution process, just like the tail feathers of paradise birds, reindeer antlers, etc. etc. Any feature that enhance your probability of reproduction can continue evolving far beyond mere likelihood of survival. There's a lot of literature...

Re: malfunctioning AF-360FGZ

2007-06-13 Thread Tom Reese
update: I shipped the flash to Pentax repairs in Colorado. I briefly considered disassembly here to see if I could fix it myself but decided there was a 1 in a 1000 chance that I'd be able to fix it and a 1 in 2 chance that I'd break it even worse. I didn't like those odds. I'll report back

Re: PESO: GFM and the road there

2007-06-13 Thread David J Brooks
Very nice road gallery Ann. Notice i had the Big flashlite, not those baby ones. LOL Dave On 6/13/07, ann sanfedele [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ok - I got stuff up finally http://tinyurl.com/yqkqpg sorry there were not more snaps I liked of friends there... but others got good stuff. ann

Re: Enablement: Clothes / Walking Billboard

2007-06-13 Thread Tom Reese
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Nah, the shirt is the real deal. The enlargement is just their poor typing skills. Why they didn't just post a larger picture, I don't know. the shirts can be ordered direct from Pentax Imaging:

Re: Re: GESO: My entries to the GFM NPW Comp.

2007-06-13 Thread David J Brooks
That was a neat photo Ken. Were abouts was that entry shot. Just curious Dave On 6/12/07, Kenneth Waller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I was bummed out when I found the Cougar enclosure was modified (a 2 foot plastic barrier had been added to the existing wall) effectively restricting my use of a

PESO: fuel

2007-06-13 Thread Walter Hamler
Definately a Super Beetle. Fuel injection means later than 73 or 74. They quit importing them here in 78 or 79. Still available in Mexico I believe. Walt -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net

Re: Sigma 300/2.8 DG for Pentax

2007-06-13 Thread Doug Franklin
William Robb wrote: - Original Message - From: Doug Franklin Subject: Re: Sigma 300/2.8 DG for Pentax By the logic you're using above, it seems to me there'd be no reason for them to have replaced the FA series withe DA series. I can't imagine how a 50-200/4.5-5.6 for full

Re: PESO: GFM and the road there

2007-06-13 Thread AlunFoto
Nice stuff, Ann! :-) Jostein 2007/6/13, ann sanfedele [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Ok - I got stuff up finally http://tinyurl.com/yqkqpg sorry there were not more snaps I liked of friends there... but others got good stuff. ann -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net

Re: Global warming was: The Nine-spotted

2007-06-13 Thread graywolf
Well, we could kill 2 dinosaurs and wait 200 thousand years. Actually most petrol seems to be dead veggies. Peat bogs come to mind. But in the end something else will be cheaper and petrol will become a thing of the past. That is I think Simon's argument. Cars are just the most visible

Re: Meta-GFM: Are there any *bad* microbreweries in NC?

2007-06-13 Thread Cory Papenfuss
On Tue, 12 Jun 2007, Scott Loveless wrote: Paul Stenquist wrote: I like Dogfish Head India Pale Ale. However, I'm not enough of a beer export to say that it's a true IPA. One of my favorite beers comes from a little restaurant in Ann Arbor, Michigan called Grizzly Peak. They brew some beer,

Re: PESO: GFM and the road there

2007-06-13 Thread Toralf Lund
ann sanfedele wrote: Ok - I got stuff up finally http://tinyurl.com/yqkqpg Lots of nice pictures, there... - T -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net

Re: Global warming was: The Nine-spotted

2007-06-13 Thread frank theriault
On 6/12/07, P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snipThe problem with evolution that I see is that it doesn't favor intelligence, it only favors survival. snip ...Which is why cockroaches will be here billions of years after our demise as a species. However, I don't see that as a problem with

OT: Double Star Trail Panorama

2007-06-13 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
From the Astronomy Picture of the Day page, a stunning photograph of star trails around both celestial poles: http://antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov/apod/ap070613.html -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net

Re: Global warming was: The Nine-spotted

2007-06-13 Thread frank theriault
On 6/12/07, graywolf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'll trust what the scientists say, and you trust what the preachers say, and we will see which works better. However, I only trust scientists a little more than I trust preachers. All humans tend to have an agenda they push. One of the things

Hood for FA* 200/2.8

2007-06-13 Thread Toine
I'm searching for the original bayonet hood for the FA* 200/2.8. KMP lists the part as MH-RBB77. A lens like that needs a good hood. -- Toine http://leende.net/peso -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net

Re: PESO: fuel

2007-06-13 Thread Toralf Lund
Definately a Super Beetle. Yep. Looks to me like a 1303 or 1303S. Although perhaps it could be a Mexican or Brazilian model with a different designation... Fuel injection means later than 73 or 74. They quit importing them here in 78 or 79. More or less the same as here, I think. I

RE: malfunctioning AF-360FGZ

2007-06-13 Thread Bill Owens
Mind quit in a similar fashion. Pentax wanted $65.00, so I got the Sigma whatchmacallit to replace it. Bill -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tom Reese Sent: Wednesday, June 13, 2007 7:01 AM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re:

Re: Meta-GFM: Are there any *bad* microbreweries in NC?

2007-06-13 Thread Cory Papenfuss
On Tue, 12 Jun 2007, Gonz wrote: Homebrewing could be alot of work, depending on how fanatical you are about it. But it could also be pretty easy. I still buy most of the beer I drink. I homebrew mostly for fun, not to supply me with beer. Its not economical, unless you buy cheap

Re: PAW 2007 - 26 - GDG

2007-06-13 Thread AlunFoto
When those little fellas see big eyes in the sky, they think they'll be someone's lunch... :-) Nice comp, Godfrey. Jostein 2007/6/13, Godfrey DiGiorgi [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Up in SF today, not a lot of time for shooting, but this little fellow really didn't like my taking an interest in him at

Re: Global warming was: The Nine-spotted

2007-06-13 Thread AlunFoto
2007/6/13, graywolf [EMAIL PROTECTED]: The biggest problem is overpopulation. The solution is easy. But I do not see any of the environmentalists here saying they are willing to kill themselves to help solve it. wow. That must be the most massively stupid thing ever written, even on this list.

Re: Global warming was: The Nine-spotted

2007-06-13 Thread mike wilson
From: AlunFoto [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2007/06/13 Wed PM 01:08:38 GMT To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: Global warming was: The Nine-spotted 2007/6/13, graywolf [EMAIL PROTECTED]: The biggest problem is overpopulation. The solution is easy. But I do not see any

Re: OT: Double Star Trail Panorama

2007-06-13 Thread Tom Reese
that's quite a picture. The explanation doesn't go into detail about how he did it though. It's awfully close to a full 360 degrees shot. Panning the camera and stitching wouldn't work because the camera had to stay put. I'm guessing that he used multiple cameras and stitched the images?

Re: Global warming was: The Nine-spotted

2007-06-13 Thread pnstenquist
It's not stupid. It's hyperbole. And it's meant to illustrate the fact that sometimes the cure can be worse than the disease. Graywolf can be tough and occasionally obnoxious but never stupid. Paul -- Original message -- From: AlunFoto [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Global warming was: The Nine-spotted

2007-06-13 Thread AlunFoto
Never said Tom is stupid. The statement was stupid. It's not the sort of argument that gets a discussion anywhere but into flamewars. Jostein 2007/6/13, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]: It's not stupid. It's hyperbole. And it's meant to illustrate the fact that sometimes the cure can be

PESO: fuel

2007-06-13 Thread Walter Hamler
Actually, I think they've stopped making them now, but they did so only a couple of years ago. Or at least, I seem to remember seeing something on TV about the last batch of Beetles rolling out from the factory in a not too distant past... - Toralf I haven't really kept up, but in the late 80s I

Re: malfunctioning AF-360FGZ

2007-06-13 Thread Scott Loveless
Tom Reese wrote: my AF-360FGZ is no longer: zooming the light, format, zoom and channel buttons no longer work the test button activates the modeling light only I put fresh batteries in it but it didn't help. The flash hasn't been dropped or anything like that. Is it worth fixing? Has

Re: malfunctioning AF-360FGZ

2007-06-13 Thread pnstenquist
If you ordered from BH, they'll let you return the 360. You could order the 540 today, then return the 360 when you get it, and they'll credit your account. I've done things like that with BH in the past. Paul -- Original message -- From: Scott Loveless [EMAIL

Re: malfunctioning AF-360FGZ

2007-06-13 Thread Tom Reese
-- Original message -- From: Scott Loveless [EMAIL PROTECTED] You coulda posted this a day earlier. UPS is delivering mine (AF-360FGZ) today. g I wanted the 540, but both BH and Adorama were out. Since I need it next weekend I ordered the 360 and a

PESO: Turtle

2007-06-13 Thread wendy beard
Spotted this turtle wandering up the driveway this morning. Managed to get a couple of pics before he (or she) ran off http://www.pbase.com/wendybeard/image/80459387 Wendy -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net

Re: Pentax marketing

2007-06-13 Thread Christian
Stan Halpin wrote: Speaking of marketing (I know, I know - nobody was talking about marketing; this is a marketing thread after all...) I went to a MLB baseball game a couple of weeks ago (KC Royals vs. somebody). Right behind homeplate there was an electronic billboard on the fence,

Re: malfunctioning AF-360FGZ

2007-06-13 Thread David J Brooks
What model of bracket did you get Scott. I'm going to need one later in the year for the pet store photos. Dave On 6/13/07, Scott Loveless [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Tom Reese wrote: my AF-360FGZ is no longer: zooming the light, format, zoom and channel buttons no longer work the test

GESO. Some shots from Erin's first real Dressage show

2007-06-13 Thread David J Brooks
http://picasaweb.google.com/pentkon52/ It was her birthday as well on Saturday. My where does 24 years go so fast. It seems like yesterday i was in the delivery room, than off again out of town for 4 months. Hummm, Maybe i just answered my own question.:-) Anyway, nothing special, just thought

pre-enablement AF-360FGZ (was - malfunctioning AF-360FGZ)

2007-06-13 Thread Scott Loveless
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If you ordered from BH, they'll let you return the 360. You could order the 540 today, then return the 360 when you get it, and they'll credit your account. I've done things like that with BH in the past. Paul Yeah, I know. I'm going to give the 360 a fair

Re: PESO: Turtle

2007-06-13 Thread David J Brooks
Ran off.??:-) Nice and sharp, good detail in the face. nicely done. What lens Dave On 6/13/07, wendy beard [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Spotted this turtle wandering up the driveway this morning. Managed to get a couple of pics before he (or she) ran off

Re: Pentax marketing

2007-06-13 Thread Scott Loveless
Christian wrote: I've mentioned that about Camden Yards (the Baltimore Oriloes' home field). The sign there says PENTAX in big letters and below that Digital Cameras Endoscopes I wonder if you can get package deals? -- Scott Loveless http://www.twosixteen.com/ -- PDML

Re: malfunctioning AF-360FGZ

2007-06-13 Thread Scott Loveless
Tom Reese wrote: -- Original message -- From: Scott Loveless [EMAIL PROTECTED] You coulda posted this a day earlier. UPS is delivering mine (AF-360FGZ) today. g I wanted the 540, but both BH and Adorama were out. Since I need it next weekend I

Re: malfunctioning AF-360FGZ

2007-06-13 Thread Scott Loveless
David J Brooks wrote: What model of bracket did you get Scott. I'm going to need one later in the year for the pet store photos. Dave I cheaped out and got the Impact from BH. I was basically working within the budget for a 540, so my options were limited. Just looking at the BH

Re: PESO: fuel

2007-06-13 Thread ann sanfedele
Walter Hamler wrote: Definately a Super Beetle. Fuel injection means later than 73 or 74. They quit importing them here in 78 or 79. Still available in Mexico I believe. Walt That narrows it down :) Thanks , Walt -- I was having fun with that one for the car guys ann -- PDML

Re: Pentax marketing

2007-06-13 Thread Christian
Scott Loveless wrote: Christian wrote: I've mentioned that about Camden Yards (the Baltimore Oriloes' home field). The sign there says PENTAX in big letters and below that Digital Cameras Endoscopes I wonder if you can get package deals? When my dad was being treated at Johns

Re: GESO. Some shots from Erin's first real Dressage show

2007-06-13 Thread Cotty
On 13/6/07, David J Brooks, discombobulated, unleashed: Anyway, nothing special, just thought you might want a peak at the dark side of horse shows. Hey Dave, which planet does this one come from ? ;-) http://tinyurl.com/2mgs95 -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places,

Re: GESO. Some shots from Erin's first real Dressage show

2007-06-13 Thread pnstenquist
Beautiful daughter, beautiful horse. Nice pics. Paul -- Original message -- From: David J Brooks [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://picasaweb.google.com/pentkon52/ It was her birthday as well on Saturday. My where does 24 years go so fast. It seems like yesterday i was

Re: PESO: fuel

2007-06-13 Thread ann sanfedele
Walter Hamler wrote: Actually, I think they've stopped making them now, but they did so only a couple of years ago. Or at least, I seem to remember seeing something on TV about the last batch of Beetles rolling out from the factory in a not too distant past... - Toralf I haven't really kept up,

Re: malfunctioning AF-360FGZ

2007-06-13 Thread Tom Reese
-- Original message -- From: Scott Loveless [EMAIL PROTECTED] what's a flip bracket? Tom Reese The bracket holds the flash above the camera and allows it to remain upright when you go from horizontal to vertical shooting. I got this one:

Re: OT: Double Star Trail Panorama

2007-06-13 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
They do say the the image captured in a single frame a four hour exposure of the night sky. That would seem to preclude panning and stitching or using several cameras. I guess they used a special panorama camera -- or special lens --capable of capturing a full 360 degree view. Such things

Re: Global warming was: The Nine-spotted

2007-06-13 Thread John Forbes
You two should swap names. Christian isn't one, and Thomas has no doubts. John On Tue, 12 Jun 2007 23:37:06 +0100, Tom C [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That's fine Christian. I'm not trying to convince you, or anyone, of anything. :-) Tom C. From: Christian [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To:

Re: Global warming was: The Nine-spotted

2007-06-13 Thread Scott Loveless
John Forbes wrote: On Wed, 13 Jun 2007 01:59:20 +0100, P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The major limiter on population growth will be clean water, unless of course we find an unlimited supply of energy, with enough energy nothing is impossible. Ever-lasting life? A cure

Re: Global warming was: The Nine-spotted

2007-06-13 Thread frank theriault
On 6/13/07, John Forbes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ever-lasting life? A cure for cancer? An honest politician? A Pentax DSLR with an aperture simulator? ;-) -frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net

Re: Global warming was: The Nine-spotted

2007-06-13 Thread John Forbes
On Wed, 13 Jun 2007 01:59:20 +0100, P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The major limiter on population growth will be clean water, unless of course we find an unlimited supply of energy, with enough energy nothing is impossible. Ever-lasting life? A cure for cancer? An honest

Re: GESO. Some shots from Erin's first real Dressage show

2007-06-13 Thread David J Brooks
The planet Cleveland.:-) That was just a spin and shoot, shot. I had a laugh when i first saw it. Dave On 6/13/07, Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 13/6/07, David J Brooks, discombobulated, unleashed: Anyway, nothing special, just thought you might want a peak at the dark side of horse

Re: GESO. Some shots from Erin's first real Dressage show

2007-06-13 Thread Eactivist
In a message dated 6/13/2007 7:44:25 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: http://picasaweb.google.com/pentkon52/ It was her birthday as well on Saturday. My where does 24 years go so fast. It seems like yesterday i was in the delivery room, than off again out of town for 4

Re: PESO: Turtle

2007-06-13 Thread wendy beard
Thanks Dave, Sigma EX 180/3.5 macro W (not really ran, sort of scuttled) http://www.pbase.com/wendybeard/image/80459387 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net

Re: GESO. Some shots from Erin's first real Dressage show

2007-06-13 Thread ann sanfedele
Cotty wrote: On 13/6/07, David J Brooks, discombobulated, unleashed: Anyway, nothing special, just thought you might want a peak at the dark side of horse shows. Hey Dave, which planet does this one come from ? ;-) http://tinyurl.com/2mgs95 Hey, she is wearing green, too! ann

Re: Meta-GFM: Are there any *bad* microbreweries in NC?

2007-06-13 Thread Gonz
On 6/13/07, Cory Papenfuss [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, 12 Jun 2007, Gonz wrote: Homebrewing could be alot of work, depending on how fanatical you are about it. But it could also be pretty easy. I still buy most of the beer I drink. I homebrew mostly for fun, not to supply me with

Re: GESO. Some shots from Erin's first real Dressage show

2007-06-13 Thread David J Brooks
Thanks Paul The first 6-7 shots are with the FA 100 F2.8 macro and the rest are the DA 50-200 on the K10D. The first 4 ring shots are Erin and Calyn. Dave On 6/13/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Beautiful daughter, beautiful horse. Nice pics. Paul -- Original

OT: ebay Power seller stuff

2007-06-13 Thread ann sanfedele
I jsut got this offer because of recent stuff to get a bronze (whatever that is - 3rd place?) POWER SELLER icon. I recently sold a couple thou of stuff for a friend - of which I got 25% but to the outside world looking at my sales, it looks like I'm doing better than I am. It has been my

Re: Global warming was: The Nine-spotted

2007-06-13 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: P. J. Alling Subject: Re: Global warming was: The Nine-spotted Another fallacy, you don't have to believe it if you don't want to, but the reason why Julian L. Simon won his bet with Paul Ehrlich is the same reason we'll not run out of resources. You can

Re: Global warming was: The Nine-spotted

2007-06-13 Thread Bob Blakely
Yet. I say this because history has shown me that every time some expert or pundant says something can't be done, some ingenious fool who was never educated in the cant's of this world up and does it! The above is not about the world's resources or any other part of the discussion. It's about

Re: My website ponder

2007-06-13 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: David J Brooks Subject: Re: My website ponder I have posted on the BB a number of times, that posting pictures taken from sites or not paid for is against the BB rules. Maybe part of that message is getting through, as they, for the most part ar at least

Re: GESO. Some shots from Erin's first real Dressage show

2007-06-13 Thread Paul Sorenson
Hmmm...antennae, little green people...you seem to draw contestants from galaxies far, far away. -p ann sanfedele wrote: Cotty wrote: On 13/6/07, David J Brooks, discombobulated, unleashed: Anyway, nothing special, just thought you might want a peak at the dark side of horse shows.

Re: GESO : Refused by PentaxGallery so far...

2007-06-13 Thread P. J. Alling
Dignity, self esteem, illusions, delusions, take your pick. AlunFoto wrote: P.J. and TomC, What do you have to lose? Jostein 2007/6/13, P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Viewing rejects like that makes me even less likely to submit anything... AlunFoto wrote: To those who are

Re: PESO: fuel

2007-06-13 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: Paul Stenquist Subject: Re: PESO: fuel Nice one. Well composed. I believe it's a 1970 VW Beatle. Has to be 75 or later, they didn't fuel inhect them until then, and that is when they put the fuel injected logo, part of which is visible onto the car. I'm

Re: Global warming was: The Nine-spotted

2007-06-13 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: Bob Blakely Subject: Re: Global warming was: The Nine-spotted Yet. I say this because history has shown me that every time some expert or pundant says something can't be done, some ingenious fool who was never educated in the cant's of this world up and

Re: PESO: fuel

2007-06-13 Thread P. J. Alling
Wrong shape tail lights, and the bumper is wrong. Much later. (I owned a 70 at one point). When the last VW left my life, (and a bit latter the rabbit was introduced and they stopped being different, simple, etc.), I stopped keeping track of changes. Heck the super beetle was an

Re: Global warming was: The Nine-spotted

2007-06-13 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: P. J. Alling Subject: Re: Global warming was: The Nine-spotted Another fallacy, you don't have to believe it if you don't want to, but the reason why Julian L. Simon won his bet with Paul Ehrlich is the same reason we'll not run out of resources. You can

Re: Global warming was: The Nine-spotted

2007-06-13 Thread P. J. Alling
That's true, but in hard times, (and there have been a lot of hard times), something as anti survival as a resource hungry giant brain, that hasn't yet reached real survival value, (and the brain is very resource hungry), would be very anti-survival. I don't remember exactly where I've read

Re: Global warming was: The Nine-spotted

2007-06-13 Thread Bob Blakely
Really? I thought it was amusing! The only massively stupid things I've ever seen on this list is the denigration of the ideas of some on this list by others who should be their colleagues and friends. Like Jack Nicholson said in Mars Attacks, Can't we all just get along? Regards, Bob

Re: Sigma 300/2.8 DG for Pentax

2007-06-13 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: Sylwester Pietrzyk Subject: Re: Sigma 300/2.8 DG for Pentax On 13.06.2007, at 08:19 , William Robb wrote: The 12-24mm zoom is huge 12-24 for FF would be even bigger. Look at Sigma 12-24 - it is bigger (87 mm x 102.5 mm vs. 84 mm × 87.5 mm) and havier (600

Re: Global warming was: The Nine-spotted

2007-06-13 Thread Christian
John Forbes wrote: You two should swap names. Christian isn't one, and Thomas has no doubts. John funny. oops, I wasn't supposed to be reading this thread... :-) -- Christian http://photography.skofteland.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net

Re: Global warming was: The Nine-spotted

2007-06-13 Thread Bob Blakely
I think (may be wrong) that you've temporarily lost the ability to recognize and appreciate humor, Jostein. Do you really think that Tom was implying that environmentalists anywhere should consider suicide to help us all out of some future population bomb? Relax! The next asteroid the size of

Re: PESO: Turtle

2007-06-13 Thread Paul Sorenson
Only time for one fleeting shot... David J Brooks wrote: Ran off.??:-) Nice and sharp, good detail in the face. nicely done. What lens Dave On 6/13/07, wendy beard [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Spotted this turtle wandering up the driveway this morning. Managed to get a couple of

Re: Global warming was: The Nine-spotted

2007-06-13 Thread Tom C
I don't feel comfortable letting Forbes speak for either of us... though I do appreciate the humor. :-) Tom C. From: Christian [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: Global warming was: The Nine-spotted Date:

Re: Global warming was: The Nine-spotted

2007-06-13 Thread Tom C
Odd how that scientific study seems to correlate with Noah (1), his three sons (3) and their respective wives (4). 1 + 3 + 4 = 8. Feel free to ignore the seeming coincidence. Tom C. From: P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net To: Pentax-Discuss Mail

Re: Enablement: Clothes / Walking Billboard

2007-06-13 Thread P. J. Alling
Can't say I much want a shirt but the cap looks nice... Tom Reese wrote: From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Nah, the shirt is the real deal. The enlargement is just their poor typing skills. Why they didn't just post a larger picture, I don't know. the shirts can be ordered direct from

Re: PESO: fuel

2007-06-13 Thread Tom C
I like it! Good shot. Tom C. From: Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: PESO: fuel Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2007 05:55:36 -0400 Nice one. Well composed. I believe it's a 1970 VW Beatle. On Jun 12,

Re: GESO. Some shots from Erin's first real Dressage show

2007-06-13 Thread ann sanfedele
David J Brooks wrote: The planet Cleveland.:-) That was just a spin and shoot, shot. I had a laugh when i first saw it. Dave You should play it up -- crop it more,,, etc ... lots of fun ! ann On 6/13/07, Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 13/6/07, David J Brooks, discombobulated,

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