Re: PESO - Getting the News

2007-09-05 Thread Bruce Dayton
The photo is nicely done - you have captured an expression. I am just trying to decide what her face is saying to me. Good shot. -- Bruce Tuesday, September 4, 2007, 9:14:13 PM, you wrote: MA http://www.alpert.com/marco/photo07/peso6.html MA Comments, as always, welcomed. MA

Re: Sometimes it's hard to shoot Pentax

2007-09-05 Thread Brendan MacRae
Actually, it was Pardees. I had called Camera Arts but they were out of the white backgrounds. I like Action Camera. I've given them a quite a bit of business over the last year. I bought my supports, a nice used 165mm f2.8 for the 67 and even ordered a new center column for my Bogen through

Re: Sometimes it's hard to shoot Pentax

2007-09-05 Thread Toralf Lund
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In the film days, I think Pentax and Nikon were the big draws. When Canon came out with the AE-1, they became a player. Minolta made its mark with the Maxxam AF cameras. IMO, Pentax lost out with the SF series of AF cameras. Canon EOS cameras were much better,

Re: OT - Cat Stew

2007-09-05 Thread mike wilson
From: Rebekah [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2007/09/04 Tue AM 10:51:01 GMT To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: OT - Cat Stew Show us a picture of your computer first. show me a picture of yours. rg2 It's not very good. I'm busy printing something at the moment.

Re: In Praise of Pentax USA

2007-09-05 Thread Thibouille
I read the thread on DPR, Joe. Fortunately everything will go well for you and your lens. Happy for you :) -- Thibault Massart aka Thibouille -- K10D,Z1,SuperA,KX,MX, P30t and KR-10x ;) ... -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net

Re: Non-Pentax Lenses for the Gallery

2007-09-05 Thread mike wilson
From: Jack Davis [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2007/09/04 Tue PM 03:17:48 GMT To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Non-Pentax Lenses for the Gallery I recently asked Carolyn about the acceptability of using non-Pentax lenses for Gallery images. I received an email from A Cathy

Re: PESO: Harlech Castle 2

2007-09-05 Thread John Whittingham
On Tue, 4 Sep 2007 14:07:26 -0700, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote That's very nice indeed, John. :-) Godfrey Thanks Godfrey, I'm still considering adding a little warmth, but got caught up editing a lot of group shots here at work. Regards, John

Re: OT - Cat Stew

2007-09-05 Thread mike wilson
From: John Sessoms [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2007/09/04 Tue PM 04:17:24 GMT To: pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: OT - Cat Stew From: Bob Sullivan Dave, The idea about asian restaurants and cats (or dogs) was passed to me some 30 years ago in the Netherlands. American friends living there

Re: PESO: Harlech Castle 2

2007-09-05 Thread John Whittingham
On Tue, 04 Sep 2007 19:03:12 -0400, John Graves wrote John, Wonderful Picture. How much did you pay those clouds to perform for you. John G. I had a big wind machine on hire at a very competitive rate! John

Re: PESO: Harlech Castle 2

2007-09-05 Thread John Whittingham
On Tue, 4 Sep 2007 17:31:10 -0400, frank theriault wrote On 9/2/07, John Whittingham [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Just sorting through some of the images I took in Wales, this is one of the ones I like the most, Pentax K10D Sigma 10-20 @ 10mm, f/8 @ 1/640 sec, ISO200, RAW (DNG), SR=on, ACR,

RE: PESO: Harlech Castle 2

2007-09-05 Thread John Whittingham
On Tue, 04 Sep 2007 16:06:11 -0600, Tom C wrote Lovely shot! I hate those pathetic stair railings the law must make you put up though. Tom C. Yeah, ruins the whole thing (no pun intended), the temptation to use the clone tool came to mind once or twice 8) Regards, John

Re: Wedding Experience (long)

2007-09-05 Thread John Whittingham
On Tue, 4 Sep 2007 21:45:30 -0400, Paul Stenquist wrote Good question. For pans of cars I set the autofocus to th´single center sensor. When I'm shooting people on the street, I generally choose the uppermost sensor with the camera in a vertical position. I never use the full array. That

Re: Stupid lens survery

2007-09-05 Thread mike wilson
From: Tim Øsleby [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2007/09/04 Tue PM 05:26:31 GMT To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: Stupid lens survery You argue pro cat stew. So I don't take you seriously. Mark! Tim Typo Mostly Harmless - Original Message - From: David

Re: PAW 2007 - 37 - GDG

2007-09-05 Thread mike wilson
From: Godfrey DiGiorgi [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2007/09/04 Tue PM 08:06:30 GMT To: DUG [EMAIL PROTECTED], PDML List PDML@pdml.net, PAW [EMAIL PROTECTED], SeePhoto Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: PAW 2007 - 37 - GDG I've been seeing this foot/bike overpass nearby that crosses the

RE: PESO: Harlech Castle 2

2007-09-05 Thread mike wilson
From: Tom C [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2007/09/04 Tue PM 10:06:11 GMT To: pdml@pdml.net Subject: RE: PESO: Harlech Castle 2 Lovely shot! I hate those pathetic stair railings the law must make you put up though. More likely insurance. Have to keep the profit margins up. Tom C.

Re: Re: OT - Cat Stew

2007-09-05 Thread mike wilson
From: Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED] I agree. If you are going to control animal numbers and a cull is necessary, shooting - as long as it is with a rifle and not a shotgun (unless at point blank range) - is fine. As long as death is instant. Traps are a no-no. Anything that produces prolonged

RE: Sometimes it's hard to shoot Pentax

2007-09-05 Thread Malcolm Smith
Brendan MacRae wrote: Well, I don't know anthing about it, I haven't read any of the reviews on it, and I don't make those decisions anyway the owner does. There's a lot of great gear out there that we don't carry. At that point he handed me the charge slip to sign and I took my yellow

Re: Published! link below -

2007-09-05 Thread keith_w
ann sanfedele wrote: Keith -- instead of buying it from Merrill? gr or did you mean ebay? No, Amazon.com. This is the link to the listing on ebay -- and the signed book... Wasn't aware of that source, when you mentioned it to me. You're clear, because when one mentions something more

Re: PESO: Sun Sprite

2007-09-05 Thread Paul Stenquist
Thanks Jack. It's full frame, no crop. Paul On Sep 4, 2007, at 11:13 PM, Jack Davis wrote: What a cutie! I think it works as a result of there being a little snipped off of both the head and feet. Good crop.(?) Jack --- Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Grace in the grass. Shot with

Re: PESO: Sun Sprite

2007-09-05 Thread Paul Stenquist
She is a pixie. (Actually, she says she's a princess :-). Thanks to all who had a look. Paul On Sep 4, 2007, at 11:31 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: Nice work. Looks like a pixie ... :-) G On Sep 4, 2007, at 6:41 PM, Paul Stenquist wrote: Grace in the grass. Shot with continuous autofocus

Re: PESO: A helping hand

2007-09-05 Thread Paul Stenquist
Thanks Bruce. I rarely take pictures of other kids, because it can cause problems. but I had already spoken to this girl's mother, so it seemed okay. Gave her my e-mail address and told her I'd send her some pics as well, but I haven't heard from her. I've done that a few times in the past

Re: Wedding Experience (long)

2007-09-05 Thread Paul Stenquist
Yes, the uppermost center will give you a good head or even eye focus point when shooting vertical. Sometimes I drop it down to the second sensor (from the top) if I want to frame looser. I usually leave the camera on the setting that allows sensor selection and work the little joystick

Re: PESO - Getting the News

2007-09-05 Thread cbwaters
Great capture Marco. Maybe just a little too much background on the right, but maybe not. CW - Original Message - From: Marco Alpert [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net Sent: Wednesday, September 05, 2007 12:14 AM Subject: PESO - Getting the News

Re: First Try with Astro Photography

2007-09-05 Thread Beaker
On Sep 4, 2007, at 2:37 PM, Bob Blakely wrote: Interesting. The chromatic aberration produced by the lens can clearly be seen. This would not have been evident if the moon were properly exposed - but then you wouldn't have recorded any of the sisters. For stars, nebulae, etc. (not the

Re: PESO - Getting the News

2007-09-05 Thread Paul Stenquist
Nicely rendered. Great tonal values. Excellent framing. Paul http://www.alpert.com/marco/photo07/peso6.html Comments, as always, welcomed. -Marco -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- No virus found in this

Big Elektra stardust 80 studio flash (voltage and features)

2007-09-05 Thread Roman
Any information of Big Elektra studio flash voltage (suitable for DSLR or would fry my camera?), also appreciate information on your preferred studio light/flash sets. Any useful advice would be appreciated. Product page in German

Re: Published! link below -

2007-09-05 Thread ann sanfedele
The irony here was that I was trying to help his sales by telling you guys about it :) oh well. anyway, enjoy it Keith, it is a fun read ann keith_w wrote: ann sanfedele wrote: Keith -- instead of buying it from Merrill? gr or did you mean ebay? No, Amazon.com. This

Re: Sometimes it's hard to shoot Pentax

2007-09-05 Thread Jack Davis
I could have guessed Pardees, Brendon. Just seemed to fit. Jack --- Brendan MacRae [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Actually, it was Pardees. I had called Camera Arts but they were out of the white backgrounds. I like Action Camera. I've given them a quite a bit of business over the last year. I

Re: Non-Pentax Lenses for the Gallery

2007-09-05 Thread Jack Davis
Yes, I'm sure many agree. I think the answer is wrong and I plan to ask again next week. Jack --- mike wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Jack Davis [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2007/09/04 Tue PM 03:17:48 GMT To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Non-Pentax Lenses for

Re: PAW 2007 - 37 - GDG

2007-09-05 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
On Sep 5, 2007, at 1:08 AM, mike wilson wrote: http://homepage.mac.com/ramarren/photo/PAW7/37.htm That breaks a few rules. 8-) I see a red halo on the rider's back. Artefact or real? It's a color photo ... The rider was wearing a red sweater. ;-) Thanks for commenting. Godfrey --

Re: Metering Question

2007-09-05 Thread Glen Tortorella
Thank you Godfrey, et. al... Godfrey: when you say that good modern cameras allow for both CW and multi-segment, do you mean this in terms of a setting (a switch) made on the camera body? I ask because my ZX-M goes into CW mode when using an older lens (i.e. an M-series lens). Is this

Re: Metering Question

2007-09-05 Thread Glen Tortorella
I figured you meant this, P.J. I am a master of the typo...and I am a professional writer :-) I very much appreciate your commentary. Thanks, Glen On Sep 5, 2007, at 12:03 AM, P. J. Alling wrote: Maybe I shouldn't post when I'm tired. That quote should read, ...why doesn't this damed

Re: OT - Cat Stew

2007-09-05 Thread P. J. Alling
I almost hate to admit this, but I've accidentally rim over a cat at speed, when one darted into the road at night. (I went back to check on the animal, no collar and it must have died almost instantly, bit still disturbing). No damage was done to my vehicle at all. They're just not big

Re: Sometimes it's hard to shoot Pentax

2007-09-05 Thread Glen Tortorella
These are excellent comments, Brendan. You highlight many important issues we Pentaxians face...and things we feel. Regards, Glen On Sep 4, 2007, at 11:24 PM, Brendan MacRae wrote: So, after my fruitless search for the 16-50mm f2.8 over the last coupe of days (except for the 5 available

Re: OT: Nice to know

2007-09-05 Thread wendy beard
The equator. I know that, because there is a sign on the other side of the road (southbound) telling me I'm halfway to the equator :-) On 9/4/07, P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: To which I as the question, starting from where? wendy beard wrote:

Re: Sometimes it's hard to shoot Pentax

2007-09-05 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
Brendan MacRae wrote: Well, I don't know anthing about it, I haven't read any of the reviews on it, and I don't make those decisions anyway the owner does. There's a lot of great gear out there that we don't carry. At that point he handed me the charge slip to sign and I took my yellow copy

Re: Metering Question

2007-09-05 Thread Jaume Lahuerta
Normally there is a setting that lets you switch between multisegment, CW and spot metering. (Spot is when the reading is taken only in a small circle in the center of the image). Unfortunately, the MZ-M (ZX-M in the US) does not have it, and this is one of the reasos for my upgrade to the

PESO: Visual Pollution

2007-09-05 Thread wendy beard
There was a PUG theme of the same name a month or so back. I thought of it as I passed this scene while driving along the Thousand Islands parkway http://www.pbase.com/wendybeard/image/84578732 and a little closer http://www.pbase.com/wendybeard/image/84578729 What were these people thinking!

Re: Re: OT - Cat Stew

2007-09-05 Thread Gonz
I hit a large coyote with a minivan once, at about 75 miles per hour. It just ran into the highway at night, and afraid a sudden maneuver would flip the vehicle, I just tried to keep it away from the path of the tires and center the van. The impact cracked the plastic skirt under the front bumper

Re: Metering Question

2007-09-05 Thread Glen Tortorella
Thank you, Jaume. The MZ-5n (ZX-5n) looks interesting. Is there any difference in the Euro and American versions (i.e. MZ and ZX)? Also, do the higher models in this series have the same functionality (ZX-10, 50, 60, etc.)? Thanks, Glen On Sep 5, 2007, at 10:03 AM, Jaume Lahuerta wrote:

Re: Metering Question

2007-09-05 Thread John Whittingham
On Wed, 5 Sep 2007 07:03:25 -0700 (PDT), Jaume Lahuerta wrote Normally there is a setting that lets you switch between multisegment, CW and spot metering. (Spot is when the reading is taken only in a small circle in the center of the image). Unfortunately, the MZ-M (ZX-M in the US) does

Re: Metering Question

2007-09-05 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
Sorry, but I'm completely unfamiliar with Pentax film SLR bodies other than the MX, which simply had CW Averaging and nothing else. All this stuff was much simpler in the past. Nikon pioneered the CW Averaging meter pattern way back when they shipped the Nikon F Photomic FTn in 1969. There

Re: Metering Question

2007-09-05 Thread Glen Tortorella
Thanks...does the ZX-5n accept the FG battery pack (AA, like on the ZX-M)? Thanks again, Glen On Sep 5, 2007, at 10:07 AM, John Whittingham wrote: On Wed, 5 Sep 2007 07:03:25 -0700 (PDT), Jaume Lahuerta wrote Normally there is a setting that lets you switch between multisegment, CW and

Re: PESO - Night Ferry

2007-09-05 Thread Adam Maas
Cotty wrote: Taken on the Ward's Island Ferry, on my way back from taking Skyline at Twilight (yesterday's PESO): http://tinyurl.com/2pbas2 Boy that has a gritty feel to it. Could be a still from a movie. Good atmosphere. Er, why is everyone down the other end of the boat? (hint- Right

Re: Metering Question

2007-09-05 Thread Adam Maas
The only difference between an MZ and a ZX is the name. Lower numbers in this series indicate better bodies (the best is the MZ-S). Generally there's little reason today to pick any body below the MZ-5n in the line, they aren't enough cheaper to make up for the features you lose. MZ-5n's are

Re: Metering Question

2007-09-05 Thread Jaume Lahuerta
No, there is no difference except for the name. I wouldn't say that the 10, 50, 60 are higher models at all, although it is difficult to explain since the numbers do not follow clear logics (at least to me). The bottom down models were the MZ-50, replaced by the 30 and then by the 60. Teh are

Re: Metering Question

2007-09-05 Thread Adam Maas
Yes. -Adam Glen Tortorella wrote: Thanks...does the ZX-5n accept the FG battery pack (AA, like on the ZX-M)? Thanks again, Glen On Sep 5, 2007, at 10:07 AM, John Whittingham wrote: On Wed, 5 Sep 2007 07:03:25 -0700 (PDT), Jaume Lahuerta wrote Normally there is a setting that lets

Re: Metering Question

2007-09-05 Thread Jaume Lahuerta
Well, actually there are a few more differences, like bracketing, viewfinder,...as I said in my previous post, take a look at Boz's site for a complete list: http://www.bdimitrov.de/kmp/ And yes, the 5n accepts the battery pack (I would say that all the MZ's except for the MZ-S accept it...)

Re: Metering Question

2007-09-05 Thread Adam Maas
Typically film cameras have either a metering switch, or it's linked to some other control (film Rebels will switch metering patterns when set to Manual or using the AE Lock, my old Nikon FA switched metering modes when set to Manual, when a button was pressed/locked or when a AI-converted lens

PESO: Pink Sun Banding

2007-09-05 Thread Jack Davis
This AM my wife told me there was a pretty pink sun rising. I shot it as a lark, really, but am surprised to see the degree of vertical banding accross the frame. Thought that was dealt with through a firmware download some time back. This is likely a supreme test, however. Opinions?

Re: Metering Question

2007-09-05 Thread Glen Tortorella
Thanks very much, Adam... This is good news, as I like the FG pack. Is there any difference between the ZX-5 and the ZX-5n? Regards, Glen On Sep 5, 2007, at 10:52 AM, Adam Maas wrote: Yes. -Adam Glen Tortorella wrote: Thanks...does the ZX-5n accept the FG battery pack (AA, like on

Lens 'tasting' (was: Re: Non-Pentax Lenses for the Gallery)

2007-09-05 Thread Axel Belinfante
Hmm... this kind of makes me wonder, to turn the issue around, whether there exist people similar to wine-tasters who can 'taste' from the image such important factors as make, plant, focal distance, aperture, whether it was a good year when the lens blossomed -- i'm aware that there is something

Re: Metering Question

2007-09-05 Thread Adam Maas
The main difference is in control layout. The MZ-5 has the metering selector around the exposure compensation dial and the drive mode selector colocated with the on/off switch around the shutter release. The MZ-5n moves the metering selector switch to the shutter speed dial, and the drive mode

Re: PESO

2007-09-05 Thread Rebekah
Thanks for everyone's comments on this, and I'll do my best to fix the background a bit :)) Looks like he's using his tongue, trying to get that raspberry seed from between his teeth! g Actually, you're pretty close - I think he was struggling with some peanut butter at the moment :oP rg2 On

Re: Metering Question

2007-09-05 Thread P. J. Alling
There are a couple of differences, but the most important one is that the ZX-5n has depth of field preview, the 5 does not. Glen Tortorella wrote: Thanks very much, Adam... This is good news, as I like the FG pack. Is there any difference between the ZX-5 and the ZX-5n? Regards, Glen

Re: Effing brilliant!

2007-09-05 Thread Steve Desjardins
O. . . A Gaussian distribution of 's! Steve the Nerd ann sanfedele [EMAIL PROTECTED] 9/4/2007 7:11 PM Mark Roberts wrote: P. J. Alling wrote: ann sanfedele wrote: P. J. Alling wrote: Norm Baugher wrote: David Savage wrote: Kenneth Waller [EMAIL

Re: Metering Question

2007-09-05 Thread John Whittingham
On Wed, 05 Sep 2007 11:13:47 -0400, Adam Maas wrote The main difference is in control layout. The MZ-5 has the metering selector around the exposure compensation dial and the drive mode selector colocated with the on/off switch around the shutter release. The MZ-5n moves the metering

Re: First Try with Astro Photography

2007-09-05 Thread Bob Blakely
For the moon, f5.6-f/16 (depending on phase), 1/100, ISO 100. Regards, Bob... Life isn't like a box of chocolates . . it's more like a jar of jalapenos. What you do today, might burn your butt tomorrow. - Original Message -

Film Gone?

2007-09-05 Thread Glen Tortorella
Hi all, Is it true that both Fuji and Kodak have announced plans to stop producing film? A dealer mentioned this to me, and I would like to know if it is true. Thanks, Glen -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net

Re: OT: Nice to know

2007-09-05 Thread P. J. Alling
So you're really 1/4 of the way to the North Pole, if you're starting from the South Pole... wendy beard wrote: The equator. I know that, because there is a sign on the other side of the road (southbound) telling me I'm halfway to the equator :-) On 9/4/07, P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Metering Question

2007-09-05 Thread Axel Belinfante
regarding metering selector the k10d layout is then like MZ-5, not like MZ-5n. interesting. The main difference is in control layout. The MZ-5 has the metering selector around the exposure compensation dial and the drive mode selector colocated with the on/off switch around the shutter

Re: Film Gone?

2007-09-05 Thread Adam Maas
The dealer is full of shit (as usual on this subject, Dealers seem to say this a lot). Fuji remains heavily committed to film, and even Kodak (which has been making occasional noises about the death of film) has just updated the Portra line. -Adam Glen Tortorella wrote: Hi all, Is it

Re: OT - Cat Stew

2007-09-05 Thread graywolf
I ran off the road once to avoid a deer. $2600 worth of damage to a diesel Escort hardly any damage to the bodywork but the undercarriage was pretty much wiped out, I did not realize in the dark that the field was 4 feet lower than the road. I figured next time I would hit the SOB; it would

Re: OT Things looking up??

2007-09-05 Thread graywolf
OTOH, a set of false teeth is not going to give you a hernia. Why, I once carried in six sets in one load... John Sessoms wrote: From: Bob W n the other hand (if you'll forgive the expression), drivers and drivers' mates in furniture delivery vans are the salt of the earth. I once had a

Re: Metering Question

2007-09-05 Thread Glen Tortorella
Thanks...I will check the Web page you mention. I just spoke to a dealer, and he was quite puzzled as to why I would want a Pentax ZX-5n--or any film camera. He said that both Kodak and Fuji will soon stop making film. So, are we wasting our time discussing useless antiques (i.e. ZX-5ns,

Re: PESO: Pink Sun Banding

2007-09-05 Thread Digital Image Studio
On 06/09/07, Jack Davis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This AM my wife told me there was a pretty pink sun rising. I shot it as a lark, really, but am surprised to see the degree of vertical banding accross the frame. Thought that was dealt with through a firmware download some time back. This is

Re: Peso: Off the wind

2007-09-05 Thread Christian
John Graves wrote: http://www.flickr.com/photos/jhg2/1312835645/ John G. Beautiful shot. Beautiful boat. Technically it's sailing on the wind as off the wind would be sailing with the wind from the stern quarters i.e. downwind. -- Christian http://photography.skofteland.net -- PDML

Re: Metering Question

2007-09-05 Thread Jaume Lahuerta
IIRC the MZ-5 does not have the exposure lock button, which I find very useful (specially when spot metering). The MZ-M does have this button, though. - Mensaje original De: Adam Maas [EMAIL PROTECTED] Para: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Enviado: miércoles, 5 de septiembre,

Re: PESO: Pink Sun Banding

2007-09-05 Thread pnstenquist
Nice shot. I would paint the banding out of the pic. As to the cause, could be a one-time hiccup. Digital s__t happens. Paul -- Original message -- From: Jack Davis [EMAIL PROTECTED] This AM my wife told me there was a pretty pink sun rising. I shot it as a

Re: OT - Cat Stew

2007-09-05 Thread Charles Robinson
On Sep 5, 2007, at 9:14, Gonz wrote: My sister-in-law is a nurse and once she was called late at night due to a bad accident. A family of four lost three people due to the driver trying to avoid a raccoon crossing the highway and running their car off the highway and flipping it. A general

Re: Metering Question

2007-09-05 Thread Adam Maas
Moron dealer wants to sell another digital. Film isn't dead. Some forms are likely going to disappear in the next few years (cheap C-41 colour, Kodachrome, possibly 35mm slide) but I'd expect to see BW and MF/LF slide continue on for just about ever. -Adam Glen Tortorella wrote: Thanks...I

Re: PESO - Duki

2007-09-05 Thread Christian
Cotty wrote: I'm laying myself wide open here, in light of a recent thread but what the heck. All done in the camera - minimal post processing - levels adjustment and conversion to B+W with Power Retouche in CS. I think this shot illustrates the fantastic minimal depth of field that can be

Re: OT: Nice to know

2007-09-05 Thread graywolf
You are being a smart ass, Peter. One, would with no other reference, figure it was from zero latitude, if it was from anything else a reference would be needed. Reference from zero can always be assumed. Not too far from from my apartment is a sign that says Eastern Continental Divide 3360

Re: Film Gone?

2007-09-05 Thread graywolf
Kodak has moved their film production offshore (actually, I imagine that just means they have shut down their US and European film plants mostly due to environmental regulations*), Fuji continues to introduce new films. Film may no longer be mainstream, but it is far from dead. I would imagine

Re: Metering Question

2007-09-05 Thread David Savage
On 9/5/07, Glen Tortorella [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all, Is multi-segment metering always better than center-weighted metering? Simple answer, No. Cheers, Dave -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net

Re: OT: Nice to know

2007-09-05 Thread P. J. Alling
Thanks for the straw man Graywolf. Tom, being halfway to the North pole from the equator is no more obvious than being half way to the North Pole from the South Pole. Hell the sign could have meant that they were half way to the north pole from Denver CO. With no further information available.

Re: Metering Question

2007-09-05 Thread P. J. Alling
The sad fact is that when Kodak or Fuji doesn't stop making film shortly the salesdroid will probably no longer be working there so you can't go rub his nose in it. Glen Tortorella wrote: Thanks...I will check the Web page you mention. I just spoke to a dealer, and he was quite puzzled as to

Re: Film Gone?

2007-09-05 Thread P. J. Alling
The Harvard MBA's that run Kodak would love to stop making film, (short sighted bastards that they are), but Fuji seems to be fully committed to film for the foreseeable future. Your salesdroid has been reading too much crap on the Internet. Glen Tortorella wrote: Hi all, Is it true that

PESO - If a tree fell ....

2007-09-05 Thread Kenneth Waller
Check out http://mypeoplepc.com/members/kwaller/offwallphoto/id2.html Comments appreciated - thanks in advance. Kenneth Waller http://tinyurl.com/272u2f -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net

Re: Film Gone?

2007-09-05 Thread Glen Tortorella
Just what I had suspected, Adam. This dealer sounded like a phony, anyway. Thanks, Glen On Sep 5, 2007, at 11:37 AM, Adam Maas wrote: The dealer is full of shit (as usual on this subject, Dealers seem to say this a lot). Fuji remains heavily committed to film, and even Kodak (which

Re: Film Gone?

2007-09-05 Thread Glen Tortorella
Indeed... Glen On Sep 5, 2007, at 12:28 PM, P. J. Alling wrote: The Harvard MBA's that run Kodak would love to stop making film, (short sighted bastards that they are), but Fuji seems to be fully committed to film for the foreseeable future. Your salesdroid has been reading too much

Re: Sometimes it's hard to shoot Pentax

2007-09-05 Thread Tom C
Foveon X3 in K10D? Tom C. From: Glen Tortorella [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: Sometimes it's hard to shoot Pentax Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2007 09:35:51 -0400 These are excellent comments,

Re: PESO - Getting the News

2007-09-05 Thread Kenneth Waller
Well done. I especially like the DOF chosen. Kenneth Waller http://tinyurl.com/272u2f - Original Message - From: Marco Alpert [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: PESO - Getting the News http://www.alpert.com/marco/photo07/peso6.html Comments, as always, welcomed. -Marco --

Re: PESO: Pink Sun Banding

2007-09-05 Thread Jack Davis
I don'T know from VPN. (?) Jack --- Digital Image Studio [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 06/09/07, Jack Davis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This AM my wife told me there was a pretty pink sun rising. I shot it as a lark, really, but am surprised to see the degree of vertical banding accross the

Re: Sometimes it's hard to shoot Pentax

2007-09-05 Thread P. J. Alling
It could be worse, the last full service shop, within reasonable driving distance, carries Pentax. There's one salesman in particular who while perfictly willing to show you a K10d K100d etc., makes a point that he's sold x number of them but, y number were returned by unhappy customers,

Re: Sometimes it's hard to shoot Pentax

2007-09-05 Thread graywolf
You spend a decade or two making ho-hum cameras, and that is what your market image becomes. It is far harder to overcome a image like that than it is to start from scratch. Strangely, there is an immense amount of merchandising research results published but I have found that most people

Re: PESO: Pink Sun Banding

2007-09-05 Thread Jack Davis
I'll call it digital gas..for now. We still have a fairly dense high fog, so think I'll try another shot. Sun, however, is not a bright area rather than a disk. Don't feel the original warrants any PS time, but thanks, Paul. Jack --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Nice shot. I would paint the banding

Re: Metering Question

2007-09-05 Thread Tom Cakalic
Frankly, I find multi-segment metering to be not too different than center-weighted metering. I say this from an anecdotal basis not one of measurement. In the end the expected exposure is supposed to hopefully be overall best possible exposure. The thing is, the camera is not smart enough

Re: OT: Nice to know

2007-09-05 Thread graywolf
Oh, I am sorry Peter, I attributed your comments as a smart ass reply, obviously I was wrong. P. J. Alling wrote: Thanks for the straw man Graywolf. Tom, being halfway to the North pole from the equator is no more obvious than being half way to the North Pole from the South Pole. Hell the

Re: Sometimes it's hard to shoot Pentax

2007-09-05 Thread P. J. Alling
What, you believe everything you read? Sturgeons law needs to be updated, to 90% of everything on the Internet is crud. Tom C wrote: Foveon X3 in K10D? Tom C. From: Glen Tortorella [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net To: Pentax-Discuss Mail

Re: Metering Question

2007-09-05 Thread Glen Tortorella
'Tis true :-) Glen On Sep 5, 2007, at 12:26 PM, P. J. Alling wrote: The sad fact is that when Kodak or Fuji doesn't stop making film shortly the salesdroid will probably no longer be working there so you can't go rub his nose in it. Glen Tortorella wrote: Thanks...I will check the

Re: PESO - If a tree fell ....

2007-09-05 Thread Jack Davis
Tree trunks come off fairly purple on my monitor. Nice setting. Jack --- Kenneth Waller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Check out http://mypeoplepc.com/members/kwaller/offwallphoto/id2.html Comments appreciated - thanks in advance. Kenneth Waller http://tinyurl.com/272u2f -- PDML

Re: Sometimes it's hard to shoot Pentax

2007-09-05 Thread Tom C
I won't buy a K10D until they get rid of the VPN Jack just showed us. Producing results like that is akin to reaching into a box of 3-year old expired film that's been sitting out in the sun, blindfolded, loading it in your camera and expecting something decent. Tom C. From: P. J.

Re: Re: OT - Cat Stew

2007-09-05 Thread Kenneth Waller
A good rule of thumb in deer country (or any where else) is not to swerve to avoid animals in your vehicles path. Kenneth Waller http://tinyurl.com/272u2f - Original Message - From: Gonz [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Re: OT - Cat Stew I hit a large coyote with a minivan once, at

Re: PESO - If a tree fell ....

2007-09-05 Thread Bruce Dayton
Excellent shot. The composition is right on. Well done, as usual. -- Bruce Wednesday, September 5, 2007, 9:36:43 AM, you wrote: KW Check out KW http://mypeoplepc.com/members/kwaller/offwallphoto/id2.html KW Comments appreciated - thanks in advance. KW Kenneth Waller KW

Re: PESO - If a tree fell ....

2007-09-05 Thread Tom C
Same here with the purple tinge. I like the composition but there is a certain degree of softness to the entire image that bothers me. Tom C. From: Jack Davis [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: PESO - If a

Re: Metering Question

2007-09-05 Thread Glen Tortorella
Thank you very much for this input. I have considered these points. Your anecdotal reasoning seems rather sound. The common sense perspective would dictate: all metering systems have flaws, and the human mind far surpasses anything a camera can do. Thanks, Glen On Sep 5, 2007, at 12:29

Re: OT: Nice to know

2007-09-05 Thread P. J. Alling
Well, I was kind of being a smart ass, but it was with a point. graywolf wrote: Oh, I am sorry Peter, I attributed your comments as a smart ass reply, obviously I was wrong. P. J. Alling wrote: Thanks for the straw man Graywolf. Tom, being halfway to the North pole from the equator

Re: OT: Nice to know

2007-09-05 Thread Kenneth Waller
So you're really 1/4 of the way to the North Pole, if you're starting from the South Pole... ? More like 3/4 of the way to the North Pole if you're starting from the South Pole. Kenneth Waller http://tinyurl.com/272u2f - Original Message - From: P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Sometimes it's hard to shoot Pentax

2007-09-05 Thread Tom C
Obviously I didn't believe that. Tom C. From: P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: Sometimes it's hard to shoot Pentax Date: Wed, 05 Sep 2007 12:46:48 -0400 What, you believe everything you

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