PESO: Changes in Latitudes, Changes in Attitudes

2011-01-19 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
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Re: OT: Speaking of art . . .

2011-01-19 Thread David Mann
On Jan 19, 2011, at 3:00 AM, Bob Sullivan wrote: I have an old toaster. How many slices of toast would I have to do before I produced a 'Holy Image'? 10^5, 10^6, 10^7,... I don't think he's done The Last Supper, but... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toast_as_art:_Maurice_Bennett -- PDML

Re: OT: Oracle Account - just how stupid can you get?

2011-01-19 Thread David Mann
On Jan 19, 2011, at 7:33 AM, steve harley wrote: not to mention that OpenOffice was just a speck in Oracle's recent purchase of Sun, so it's probably still operating much as Sun operated it, on a corporate-backed open source model which often entails onerous bureaucracy wading into the

Re: PESO: Changes in Latitudes, Changes in Attitudes

2011-01-19 Thread Boris Liberman
You're not traveling too fast, do you, Dan? /wink wink/ On 1/19/2011 10:38 AM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote: http://blogs.delphiforums.com/n/blogs/blog.aspx?nav=mainwebtag=djm1963entry=58 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE

Re: Now - about the Pentax Users Gallery... some questions, for you who are in it

2011-01-19 Thread David Mann
On Jan 19, 2011, at 9:47 AM, John Sessoms wrote: They're listening to the same corporate lawyers who require electric heaters to have a specific warning label telling you not to use them while you're in the bathtub. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-12198709 Dave -- PDML

Re: Being angry at Boris (wink)

2011-01-19 Thread Thibouille
Yep, Car Museum. I didn't think there would be really interesting photos to be taken there and was pleasantly surprised. 2011/1/19 Boris Liberman bori...@gmail.com: Well, I still own that lens and used it recently. Let me see - it was either the Car Museum in Brussels or just one of these

RE: we had snow the other day

2011-01-19 Thread Bob W
On 1/19/2011 6:07 AM, Christine Aguila wrote: In 1988 or 89, can't remember which, we had a really cold winter. A friend's cousin came for a winter visit. He was from Greece. He I were walking downtown on a particularly cold day. At one point he turned to me and said, I can't feel my

Amazon has used K-5s

2011-01-19 Thread Larry Colen
They list two used ones for $1338. I can't help but be tempted, but also to wonder why they have used ones. -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from i4est -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please

Re: Amazon has used K-5s

2011-01-19 Thread eckinator
I trust amazon in principle but I'd think they were returned for a reason. Something to do with the blob craze maybe? 2011/1/19 Larry Colen l...@red4est.com: They list two used ones for $1338.  I can't help but be tempted, but also to wonder why they have used ones. -- Larry Colen

Looking for an enlarger

2011-01-19 Thread Thibouille
Mine really is to much of a crap (better than nothing but still). So I'm looking for an enlarger capable of 35mm, 6x6 minimum. 6x7 and 4x5 as well would be ideal. Good optics with it and necessary accessories for those neg sizes would be welcome. Something like Durst M6xx or something. I guess

Re: Amazon has used K-5s

2011-01-19 Thread Larry Colen
On Jan 19, 2011, at 2:31 AM, eckinator wrote: I trust amazon in principle but I'd think they were returned for a reason. Something to do with the blob craze maybe? That's my guess. So I'm wondering what the return policy, or Pentax warranty is on them. -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com

Re: PESO: Changes in Latitudes, Changes in Attitudes

2011-01-19 Thread Brian Walters
On Wed, 19 Jan 2011 03:38 -0500, Daniel J. Matyola danmaty...@gmail.com wrote: http://blogs.delphiforums.com/n/blogs/blog.aspx?nav=mainwebtag=djm1963entry=58 Global Warming, perhaps? Cheers Brian ++ Brian Walters Western Sydney Australia

Re: Amazon has used K-5s

2011-01-19 Thread eckinator
I'm afraid I wouldn't know - not my domestic market... my best advice would be to go right to the source and ask the horse... 2011/1/19 Larry Colen l...@red4est.com: On Jan 19, 2011, at 2:31 AM, eckinator wrote: I trust amazon in principle but I'd think they were returned for a reason.

Re: PESO - Crossing

2011-01-19 Thread frank theriault
On Wed, Jan 19, 2011 at 1:34 AM, Boris Liberman bori...@gmail.com wrote: It is a good photo, but I think you tripped the shutter just a split second too late. The tip of the head of the old lady almost touches the round corner of the walkway across the street. That's a nitpick, but it is there.

Re: PESO we had snow too :)

2011-01-19 Thread frank theriault
On Mon, Jan 17, 2011 at 9:22 PM, Bruce Walker bruce.wal...@gmail.com wrote: It was our turn for some decorative snow this morning. It was -20C with almost no wind, and about 6-8 of super light'n'fluffy stuff fell. I got about 50 shots in the back yard, of which this was one of the best ...

Re: PESO - Crossing

2011-01-19 Thread Boris Liberman
On 1/19/2011 1:47 PM, frank theriault wrote: Almost, but not quite. Besides, if I'd have pressed a second earlier, her feet would be touching the arc of the sidewalk below her feet, rather than being just above it as she is now. Indeed. That's the trickiest part - to have the timing right.

Re: PESO: Changes in Latitudes, Changes in Attitudes

2011-01-19 Thread frank theriault
On Wed, Jan 19, 2011 at 3:38 AM, Daniel J. Matyola danmaty...@gmail.com wrote: http://blogs.delphiforums.com/n/blogs/blog.aspx?nav=mainwebtag=djm1963entry=58 Someone's on vacation... ;-) Lovely shots, Dan! cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept.  -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML

Re: peso-sunset

2011-01-19 Thread frank theriault
On Wed, Jan 19, 2011 at 2:10 AM, Sasha Sobol sa...@asobol.com wrote: http://www.flickr.com/photos/sobol/5365866115/ It was foggy most of the day - we were near the ocean, could hear it but could not see. It was very windy and by the end of the day we caught some light. Lovely. cheers,

Re: PESO - Rivers's Dusk Blanket

2011-01-19 Thread frank theriault
On Mon, Jan 17, 2011 at 6:31 PM, David J Brooks pentko...@gmail.com wrote: Super shot. Great feel to it Agreed. cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept.  -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to

Re: OT: Speaking of art . . .

2011-01-19 Thread frank theriault
On Tue, Jan 18, 2011 at 8:17 AM, Stan Halpin s...@stans-photography.info wrote: Someone with way too much time on their hands! http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1347834/Da-Vinci-masterpiece-The-Last-Supper-recreated-laundry-fluff.html?ito=feeds-newsxml Now ~that's~ dedication... cheers,

Re: PDML Photo Annual - Week 1 report

2011-01-19 Thread frank theriault
On Mon, Jan 17, 2011 at 4:56 PM, Mark Roberts m...@robertstech.com wrote: snip We're just trying to keep out people who sign up at the last minute only for the purpose of getting a photo in the book. There are such people? ;-) cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept.  -Henri

Re: OT: Speaking of art . . .

2011-01-19 Thread eckinator
2011/1/19 frank theriault knarftheria...@gmail.com: Now ~that's~ dedication... naah. religious art gives from your middle. true believers use bellybutton lint. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please

Re: PDML Photo Annual - Week 1 report

2011-01-19 Thread eckinator
2011/1/19 Joseph McAllister pentax...@mac.com: Actually, Mark has a Bot than scans all the messages in the archive for the year. If it finds no mention of your Pentax body or lens usage; purchase; a complaint; a repair, you are disqualified from submitting a photo to the annual. you

Re: Now - about the Pentax Users Gallery... some questions, , for you who are in it

2011-01-19 Thread eckinator
2011/1/19 John Sessoms jsessoms...@nc.rr.com: This is the cop flailing around adding ridiculous charges hoping to find *something* that will stick in hopes of justifying having stepped on his own foreskin. no idea if that expression is old or markworthy but I'll remember it =) -- PDML

Re: Now - about the Pentax Users Gallery... some questions, , for you who are in it

2011-01-19 Thread eckinator
2011/1/19 John Sessoms jsessoms...@nc.rr.com: Actually, the cops can arrest you just about anywhere in the world (not just in the U.S.) simply because you look funny. true. and detain me for 24 hours before they have to convince a DA that they have a case. I'm OK with that. Just not with their

Re: Peso The birthday girl

2011-01-19 Thread Boris Liberman
Ditto! On 1/17/2011 9:09 PM, Paul Stenquist wrote: A great family pic. You should frame a print for grandma. Paul On Jan 17, 2011, at 1:55 PM, David J Brooks wrote: http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ She's the one on the left. Held a brunch for her 89th on Saturday. Had to get one shot.

Re: OT: Speaking of art . . .

2011-01-19 Thread Bob Sullivan
Rats, Just when I had my nitch figured out, I find somebody else in it! Regards, Bob S. On Wed, Jan 19, 2011 at 2:38 AM, David Mann d...@multisport.net.nz wrote: On Jan 19, 2011, at 3:00 AM, Bob Sullivan wrote: I have an old toaster. How many slices of toast would I have to do before I

Re: GESO: Hockey, the morning after

2011-01-19 Thread Boris Liberman
Well, the last time I saw ice hockey on TV was many years ago in another country. But your photos immediately reminded me how violent this sport really is. It is that of finesse and of tremendous physical power necessary to perform well. Thanks for sharing! On 1/16/2011 7:58 PM, Elizabeth

Re: Looking for an enlarger

2011-01-19 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
The 4x5 capable enlarger I had for years was like this one: Beseler 45 M http://cgi.ebay.com/Large-Vintage-Beseler-45M-45-M-Enlarger-/350428819179?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0hash=item51972f6eeb#ht_4742wt_1141 or http://tinyurl.com/492b27t Great enlarger. Handled every format. That's what I'd look for

Re: PESO - Room for One More

2011-01-19 Thread Boris Liberman
Excellent, Frank. Reminded me of some days of my youth. Moscow subway could sometime be associated with cans of canned fish. I wonder if a bit of a platform on the bottom got in the frame and was cropped out in post... On 1/14/2011 1:10 PM, frank theriault wrote: Another rush hour on the

Re: PESO - Tribute

2011-01-19 Thread David J Brooks
I thought you might be able to get to that procession. Great shot. Somber day. Dave On Tue, Jan 18, 2011 at 9:17 PM, frank theriault knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote: The other day a police officer was run down trying to stop a stolen snow plow.  He succumbed to his injuries. He was 35 years

Re: PESO- Catching Up

2011-01-19 Thread Boris Liberman
My immediate reaction was that you were taking a shot at film stage where some historical movie about early years of V.I. Lenin in London were being filmed... On 1/18/2011 12:11 AM, Paul Stenquist wrote: Another coffee shop pic: http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=12320613 I had just

Re: Looking for an enlarger

2011-01-19 Thread Darren Addy
Any of the Omega D series are professional units that most people find are less fiddley than the two column Beseler design. I've got an Omega with a cold light head, and a black Beseler 45 with Dual Dichro head (color heads are useful for dialing in polycontrast filter equiv.). The Omegas were

So 6 photos of mine ready for review on the Pentax gallery

2011-01-19 Thread Ann Sanfedele
I'm gathering that you guys that are in already are among those voting as to whether I get in the gallery? I never thought I'd be doing this at all so forgive me if this is a topic that has been widely rehashed. also, guess I can't vote for others myself if I don't yet have at least one

PESO: Metrodome/Metrodish interior panorama

2011-01-19 Thread Charles Robinson
Our collapsed Metrodome is far from being fixed/inflated yet. Looks pretty sad from the inside. This is a zoomify Pano export from Photoshop - I'm pretty sure it's flash-based. http://charles.robinsontwins.org/photos/2011/pano/metrodish/metrodish_pano.html -Charles -- Charles Robinson -

Re: peso-sunset

2011-01-19 Thread Ann Sanfedele
Sasha Sobol wrote: http://www.flickr.com/photos/sobol/5365866115/ It was foggy most of the day - we were near the ocean, could hear it but could not see. It was very windy and by the end of the day we caught some light. --Sasha Sasha, That one has a very painterly feel to it, like a 19th

Re: So 6 photos of mine ready for review on the Pentax gallery

2011-01-19 Thread Jack Davis
No, last I heard, you don't need to have at least one in the gallery in order to vote. If you choose to put up the 6 images on this list, I'll understand. I'll do my best to judge fairly and not let my admiration for you temper my judgment. I'll try, at least. Jack --- On Wed, 1/19/11, Ann

Re: peso-sunset

2011-01-19 Thread Ken Waller
Nice idea but the amount of dark foreground detracts from the layers above. Kenneth Waller http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller - Original Message - From: Sasha Sobol sa...@asobol.com Subject: peso-sunset http://www.flickr.com/photos/sobol/5365866115/ It was foggy most

Re: So 6 photos of mine ready for review on the Pentax gallery

2011-01-19 Thread Ann Sanfedele
Jack Davis wrote: No, last I heard, you don't need to have at least one in the gallery in order to vote. If you choose to put up the 6 images on this list, I'll understand. I'll do my best to judge fairly and not let my admiration for you temper my judgment. I'll try, at least. Jack Oh I

Re: peso-sunset

2011-01-19 Thread Sasha Sobol
Frank, Annd and Ken - thanks. Ann, I do like that shot with ship (http://www.flickr.com/photos/sobol/5368828807/in/photostream/). I have not posted it as peso because I feel I am overloading the group with my stuff recently. --Sasha On Wed, Jan 19, 2011 at 8:28 AM, Ken Waller

Re: Model releases

2011-01-19 Thread Cotty
On 18/1/11, Mark Roberts, discombobulated, unleashed: Quite right. These kind of threads always devolve into non-lawyers spouting legal opinions with unjustified certainty. Not to mention the guns, abortion and the holocaust. I'll pop back in later when it gets exciting :) -- Cheers, Cotty

Re: PESO - Of one mind

2011-01-19 Thread Steven Desjardins
I'm trying to ignore the fact that this photo was taken with the DA*60-250. I mean, it's just wonderful IQ, photographic skill aside. I like a lens with a little reach, so this one is scary from a financial perspective.. On Wed, Jan 19, 2011 at 1:32 AM, Boris Liberman bori...@gmail.com wrote:

Pentax Gallery observation - this should be safe from controversy

2011-01-19 Thread Ann Sanfedele
so I started voting... btw it turned out I'd been in for 4 years... had forgotten I was. Glad that it is anonymous on all fronts... but after spending about 45 minutes doing the voting chore I wondered if the site automatically screened out the voters submissions - since I didnt see mine come

Re: PESO: Metrodome/Metrodish interior panorama

2011-01-19 Thread Bob Sullivan
Charles, It looks like the roof has tiedowns all around. Those highway department lane separation barriers are spotted around the floor in pairs. Are they afraid the roof will blow away? Regards, Bob S. On Wed, Jan 19, 2011 at 9:52 AM, Charles Robinson charl...@visi.com wrote: Our collapsed

Re: GESO - Chicago White Sox

2011-01-19 Thread Ann Sanfedele
Later reply - but have to say I didn't at all think you were being critical of my observations... I was just making Chicago joky comments re Cubs vs WSox and how little I pay attention to baseball these days : -) ann Chris Mitchell wrote: Ann Sanfedele wrote: actually I hardly looked

Pentax 645D beats out the iPhone at least.

2011-01-19 Thread David J Brooks
http://www.photographyreview.com/qikResults_2617crx.aspx Hope the link works Dave -- Documenting Life in Rural Ontario. www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ York Region, Ontario, Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net

Re: Pentax 645D beats out the iPhone at least.

2011-01-19 Thread David J Brooks
On Wed, Jan 19, 2011 at 1:53 PM, David J Brooks pentko...@gmail.com wrote: http://www.photographyreview.com/qikResults_2617crx.aspx Hope the link works Dave And it does. -- Documenting Life in Rural Ontario. www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ York Region,

Re: Pentax Gallery observation - this should be safe from controversy

2011-01-19 Thread David J Brooks
On Wed, Jan 19, 2011 at 1:31 PM, Ann Sanfedele ann...@nyc.rr.com wrote: so I started voting... What I did notice was that out of perhaps 75 images I looked at , only two were taken with film cameras and scanned, and only one was taken with the ist D. All 5 of my accepted photos are with the

Re: Pentax Gallery observation - this should be safe from controversy

2011-01-19 Thread Jack Davis
Your wonderment is right, you don't get the chance to vote on your own stuff. None of us do. ;) Jack --- On Wed, 1/19/11, Ann Sanfedele ann...@nyc.rr.com wrote: From: Ann Sanfedele ann...@nyc.rr.com Subject: Pentax Gallery observation - this should be safe from controversy To:

Re: PDML Photo Annual - Week 1 report

2011-01-19 Thread David J Brooks
On Wed, Jan 19, 2011 at 2:39 AM, Joseph McAllister pentax...@mac.com wrote: On Jan 17, 2011, at 15:26 , David J Brooks wrote: On Mon, Jan 17, 2011 at 4:56 PM, Mark Roberts m...@robertstech.com wrote: William Robb wrote: Technically, I wasn't a subscribed member of the PDML on Dec 31, can I

Re: PESO - Moored

2011-01-19 Thread David J Brooks
Nice line work and conversion dave On Tue, Jan 18, 2011 at 9:10 PM, Rick Womer rwomer1...@yahoo.com wrote: Another from Guilford harbor: http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=12325677size=lg (K7, FA 24-90) Rick -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net

RE: PESO - Tribute

2011-01-19 Thread John Sessoms
From: frank theriault The other day a police officer was run down trying to stop a stolen snow plow. He succumbed to his injuries. He was 35 years old. He left behind a wife and a 1 1/2 year old boy. The thief, a homeless person, has been charged with murder. His funeral was today. As is

Re: Pentax 645D beats out the iPhone at least.

2011-01-19 Thread AlunFoto
So, Everyone do their civil duty, folks! :-) Jostein 2011/1/19 David J Brooks pentko...@gmail.com: On Wed, Jan 19, 2011 at 1:53 PM, David J Brooks pentko...@gmail.com wrote: http://www.photographyreview.com/qikResults_2617crx.aspx Hope the link works Dave And it does. -- Documenting

Re: Pentax 645D beats out the iPhone at least.

2011-01-19 Thread P. J. Alling
Well, I surprised that large a percentage of the general public even know what a 645D is. Looks like there are a total 0f 111 votes, if everyone on the list goes and votes we can really take the Pentax up a few notches. On 1/19/2011 1:53 PM, David J Brooks wrote:

Re: Pentax 645D beats out the iPhone at least.

2011-01-19 Thread steve harley
On 2011-01-19 12:48 , P. J. Alling wrote: Looks like there are a total 0f 111 votes, if everyone on the list goes and votes we can really take the Pentax up a few notches. to that end a direct link to the question-asking aspect of the poll:

Re: PAW54 - Tram window

2011-01-19 Thread John Sessoms
From: Ann Sanfedele John Sessoms wrote: From: DagT Thanks John and all the rest! I have been looking at this kind of reflections before, but now I was on a trip with my oldest and his reflection worked all right. I didn?t tell him how to sit, just told him what I was doing and showed him

Re: PAW54 - Tram window

2011-01-19 Thread DagT
DagT http://www.thrane.name Den 19. jan. 2011 kl. 21.07 skrev John Sessoms: From: Ann Sanfedele John Sessoms wrote: From: DagT Thanks John and all the rest! I have been looking at this kind of reflections before, but now I was on a trip with my oldest and his reflection worked all

Re: PDML posters that never were

2011-01-19 Thread Miserere
On 18 January 2011 13:27, Mark Roberts m...@robertstech.com wrote: I've been brushing up on my Photoshop skills in preparation for the upcoming semester by creating some promotional posters for PDML books of the past and the exhibit in Chicago from last year. These were designed to be 16 x 20

Model releases/commerical use/etc

2011-01-19 Thread Elizabeth Masoner
Ok, I give up, I can¹t stay out of the conversation (I don¹t have anymore wall space that would like good with a fist punched through it). If I wait longer to email again I won¹t be polite so I¹ll email now while I still have some reasonable control over my language. Just read this ­ it goes

Re: OT: Speaking of art . . .

2011-01-19 Thread eckinator
2011/1/19 Bob Sullivan rf.sulli...@gmail.com: Rats, Just when I had my nitch figured out, I find somebody else in it! Regards,  Bob S. sounds like you have a sonofabitch nitch snitch in your inner circle... -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net

Re: Now - about the Pentax Users Gallery... some questions,, for you who are in it

2011-01-19 Thread John Sessoms
From: Boris Liberman On 1/19/2011 1:04 AM, John Sessoms wrote: You do not need a model release OR a property release for non-commercial use of any photograph taken in or from a public place. Non-commercial use means you are not using the photograph to sell a product - you can sell copies

Re: OT: Speaking of art . . .

2011-01-19 Thread Darren Addy
The DailyMail link that should be most interesting to PDML is: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1348572/Birds-captured-1-8000th-second-amateur-British-wildlife-photographer.html or http://tinyurl.com/5sk79n4 My Z-1p goes to 1/8000th. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net

Re: Model releases/commerical use/etc

2011-01-19 Thread eckinator
relax. many people = many opinions.what's the big whoop? cheers ecke 2011/1/19 Elizabeth Masoner lizmaso...@bellsouth.net: Ok, I give up, I can¹t stay out of the conversation (I don¹t have anymore wall space that would like good with a fist punched through it).  If I wait longer to email

Re: OT: Speaking of art . . .

2011-01-19 Thread Darren Addy
The caption at the bottom of the article calls him Rot instead of Roy. They clearly need some copy editors at the Daily Mail. On Wed, Jan 19, 2011 at 2:48 PM, Darren Addy pixelsmi...@gmail.com wrote: The DailyMail link that should be most interesting to PDML is:

Re: The PUG is Hungry....

2011-01-19 Thread John Sessoms
From: Brian Walters On Tue, 18 Jan 2011 18:08 -0500, David J Brooks pentko...@gmail.com wrote: On Sun, Jan 16, 2011 at 4:39 PM, Brian Walters supera1...@fastmail.fm wrote: the PUG needs to be fed! February theme: Life's Simple Pleasures. Does cheeze wiz count I had to Google

Re: The PUG is Hungry....

2011-01-19 Thread eckinator
2011/1/19 John Sessoms jsessoms...@nc.rr.com: [...] same relationship to dairy products as Vegemite does to vegetables. is it made from mites then? -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the

Re: Amazon has used K-5s

2011-01-19 Thread Jim King
eckinator wrote on Wed, 19 Jan 2011 02:58:04 -0800 I'm afraid I wouldn't know - not my domestic market... my best advice would be to go right to the source and ask the horse... Just be sure that you are talking to the right end of the horse... Regards, Jim -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail

Re: Model releases/commerical use/etc

2011-01-19 Thread Bruce Walker
Explanation: http://xkcd.com/386/ On 11-01-19 3:48 PM, eckinator wrote: relax. many people = many opinions.what's the big whoop? cheers ecke 2011/1/19 Elizabeth Masonerlizmaso...@bellsouth.net: Ok, I give up, I can¹t stay out of the conversation (I don¹t have anymore wall space that would

Re: Model releases/commerical use/etc

2011-01-19 Thread Paul Stenquist
Well, if she's right every newspaper in the country and most of the magazines are in big trouble. Go put your fist through a wall. On Jan 19, 2011, at 3:40 PM, Elizabeth Masoner wrote: Ok, I give up, I can’t stay out of the conversation (I don’t have anymore wall space that would like good

Re: we had snow the other day

2011-01-19 Thread Miserere
On 18 January 2011 23:07, Christine Aguila cagu...@earthlink.net wrote: In 1988 or 89, can't remember which, we had a really cold winter.  A friend's cousin came for a winter visit.  He was from Greece.  He I were walking downtown on a particularly cold day.   At one point he turned to me

Re: Pentax 645D beats out the iPhone at least.

2011-01-19 Thread Steven Desjardins
We're catching up. Actually, the 645D has made a number of camera of the year lists. On Wed, Jan 19, 2011 at 2:58 PM, steve harley p...@paper-ape.com wrote: On 2011-01-19 12:48 , P. J. Alling wrote: Looks like there are a total 0f 111 votes, if everyone on the list goes and votes we can

Re: OT: Speaking of art . . .

2011-01-19 Thread P. J. Alling
All of the images look a bit over sharpened. On 1/19/2011 3:48 PM, Darren Addy wrote: The DailyMail link that should be most interesting to PDML is: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1348572/Birds-captured-1-8000th-second-amateur-British-wildlife-photographer.html or

Re: Model releases/commerical use/etc

2011-01-19 Thread Elizabeth Masoner
For the 50 billionth time Paul. In EVERYTHING I've said I have NEVER said newspapers fall under this. On 1/19/11 3:02 PM, Paul Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote: Well, if she's right every newspaper in the country and most of the magazines are in big trouble. Go put your fist through

Re: Model releases/commerical use/etc

2011-01-19 Thread Paul Stenquist
Don't mean to be rude, but we debate many issues here, most far more contentiously than this. But like most of our debates, this one invites a variety of opinions, each with an element of truth. No need to get upset because others don't agree with you. All newspapers and mags are intended to

Re: The PUG is Hungry....

2011-01-19 Thread Ken Waller
Kenneth Waller http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller - Original Message - From: eckinator eckina...@gmail.com Subject: Re: The PUG is Hungry 2011/1/19 John Sessoms jsessoms...@nc.rr.com: [...] same relationship to dairy products as Vegemite does to vegetables. is

Re: Model releases/commerical use/etc

2011-01-19 Thread Paul Stenquist
But according to the copy you entered below, any endeavor designed to create income, newspapers would be subject to this requirement as well. I shoot more for magazines than newspapers. I haven't had to secure model releases for those pubs either. It just doesn't happen very often in the real

Re: Pentax 645D beats out the iPhone at least.

2011-01-19 Thread Peter Jordan
My one vote got it up to tied first. Cmon, we can beat those Nikonistas On 19 Jan 2011, at 19:58, steve harley wrote: On 2011-01-19 12:48 , P. J. Alling wrote: Looks like there are a total 0f 111 votes, if everyone on the list goes and votes we can really take the Pentax up a few notches.

Re: Now - about the Pentax Users Gallery... some questions, ,, for you who are in it

2011-01-19 Thread John Sessoms
From: eckinator 2011/1/19 John Sessoms jsessoms...@nc.rr.com: Actually, the cops can arrest you just about anywhere in the world (not just in the U.S.) simply because you look funny. true. and detain me for 24 hours before they have to convince a DA that they have a case. I'm OK with that.

Re: PESO: Metrodome/Metrodish interior panorama

2011-01-19 Thread Charles Robinson
On Jan 19, 2011, at 12:42, Bob Sullivan wrote: Charles, It looks like the roof has tiedowns all around. Those highway department lane separation barriers are spotted around the floor in pairs. Are they afraid the roof will blow away? My guess is that they don't want wind and/or interior

Re: Pentax 645D beats out the iPhone at least.

2011-01-19 Thread Darren Addy
On Wed, Jan 19, 2011 at 3:09 PM, Peter Jordan pjp...@btinternet.com wrote: My one vote got it up to tied first. Cmon, we can beat those Nikonistas Rather pointless when the poll Expires: 2012-01-04. Can't WAIT to see what the 2010 Camera of the Year is when the poll closes in 2012! : \ -- PDML

Re: Model releases/commerical use/etc

2011-01-19 Thread steve harley
On 2011-01-19 13:40 , Elizabeth Masoner wrote: Just read this =AD it goes into the when/why/how more succinctly than anything any of us have typed so far. http://www.andrewkantor.com/useful/Legal-Rights-of-Photographers.pdf interesting and valuable, but not at all succinct With regards to

Re: PESO: Metrodome/Metrodish interior panorama

2011-01-19 Thread Bob Sullivan
Charles, It's an interesting picture with lots of detail. That stadium is responsible for a lot of change in (US) pro football. After the Vikings team had a lot of success in it, the other cold weather cities took notice. The slow, sure footed players of the northern cities outdoor stadiums were

Re: Now - about the Pentax Users Gallery... some questions, ,, for you who are in it

2011-01-19 Thread eckinator
2011/1/19 John Sessoms jsessoms...@nc.rr.com: Keep in mind a conviction is not necessarily the final disposition of such a case. Often when the accused is convicted at the lowest level of the court where the charges are first heard, he/she has to appeal the conviction and it is over-turned

Re: Pentax 645D beats out the iPhone at least.

2011-01-19 Thread P. J. Alling
Oh come on, where's your sense of,. hum, obnoxiousness. Maybe if we vote it camera of the year /today/ other less informed voters will look it up and decide we're right. On 1/19/2011 4:22 PM, Darren Addy wrote: On Wed, Jan 19, 2011 at 3:09 PM, Peter Jordanpjp...@btinternet.com wrote: My

Re: Pentax 645D beats out the iPhone at least.

2011-01-19 Thread eckinator
2011/1/19 Darren Addy pixelsmi...@gmail.com: Rather pointless when the poll Expires: 2012-01-04. Can't WAIT to see what the 2010 Camera of the Year is when the poll closes in 2012! I bet their backup server runs Retrospect... -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net

Re: Model releases/commerical use/etc

2011-01-19 Thread Elizabeth Masoner
And as I've said repeatedly (hence the frustration as you are either extremely dense or deliberately dodging those sentences just so you can argue more), the courts have made numerous exceptions for newspapers. Newspapers, not magazines. News stories fall under parts of the fair use clauses and

Re: PESO: Metrodome/Metrodish interior panorama

2011-01-19 Thread Charles Robinson
On Jan 19, 2011, at 15:24, Bob Sullivan wrote: Charles, It's an interesting picture with lots of detail. That stadium is responsible for a lot of change in (US) pro football. After the Vikings team had a lot of success in it, the other cold weather cities took notice. The slow, sure footed

PESO: Salt

2011-01-19 Thread Charles Robinson
Driving in Minnesota in the wintertime means you have to put up with a lot of crap trying very hard to destroy your car. This is my first shot with my new 35mm f/2.4 lens. Seems like a nice (lightweight!) performer so far. http://charles.robinsontwins.org/photos/2011/IMGP7522.jpg -Charles

Re: OT: Speaking of art . . .

2011-01-19 Thread Bruce Walker
On 11-01-19 3:48 PM, Darren Addy wrote: The DailyMail link that should be most interesting to PDML is: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1348572/Birds-captured-1-8000th-second-amateur-British-wildlife-photographer.html or http://tinyurl.com/5sk79n4 My Z-1p goes to 1/8000th. This article

Re: Model releases/commerical use/etc

2011-01-19 Thread Paul Stenquist
You really don't have to resort to insults. This isn't a big deal. But as I said, I shoot for magazines as well, and I don't have to provide releases. Some are Sunday supplement magazines that are published by newspapers, but others are newsstand/subscription automotive buff books. In any

Re: Model releases/commerical use/etc

2011-01-19 Thread P. J. Alling
That's the disagreement,l they aren't exceptions they're the rule. On 1/19/2011 4:31 PM, Elizabeth Masoner wrote: And as I've said repeatedly (hence the frustration as you are either extremely dense or deliberately dodging those sentences just so you can argue more), the courts have made

Re: Amazon has used K-5s

2011-01-19 Thread eckinator
2011/1/19 Jim King jamesk8...@mac.com: Just be sure that you are talking to the right end of the horse... you mean find someone there who actually /knows/ and has the authority to /say/? c'mon, get real... ]=) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net

Re: tiny geso (or inflated peso?)

2011-01-19 Thread Richard D Bush
Sasha, You better like your new camerawith that lens, you're shooting about $2,300 worth of new, nice gear! I have a K5 on order right now. (This is my first major step up since buying a K10D at the end of 1007.) I ordered it with the weather sealed version of the 18-55 and the extra

Re: Amazon has used K-5s

2011-01-19 Thread Paul Stenquist
Probably returns that Pentax repaired. Paul On Jan 19, 2011, at 5:22 AM, Larry Colen wrote: They list two used ones for $1338. I can't help but be tempted, but also to wonder why they have used ones. -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from i4est -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail

Re: PESO: Salt

2011-01-19 Thread Richard D Bush
Get that car to a car wash post haste. RB On Jan 19, 2011, at 2:34 PM, Charles Robinson wrote: Driving in Minnesota in the wintertime means you have to put up with a lot of crap trying very hard to destroy your car. This is my first shot with my new 35mm f/2.4 lens. Seems like a nice

Re: PESO: Salt

2011-01-19 Thread Charles Robinson
On Jan 19, 2011, at 16:39, Richard D Bush wrote: Get that car to a car wash post haste. Not worth it, yet! Each commute to/from work covers it in the same white coat. As long as it stays cold (should be down to -20F by this weekend) the salt doesn't do much. It's when things start to thaw

Re: Pentax 645D beats out the iPhone at least.

2011-01-19 Thread John Sessoms
From: steve harley On 2011-01-19 12:48 , P. J. Alling wrote: Looks like there are a total 0f 111 votes, if everyone on the list goes and votes we can really take the Pentax up a few notches. to that end a direct link to the question-asking aspect of the poll:

Re: OT: Speaking of art . . .

2011-01-19 Thread John Sessoms
From: Darren Addy The DailyMail link that should be most interesting to PDML is: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1348572/Birds-captured-1-8000th-second-amateur-British-wildlife-photographer.html or http://tinyurl.com/5sk79n4 My Z-1p goes to 1/8000th. How good can it be if there ain't

Re: Pentax 645D beats out the iPhone at least.

2011-01-19 Thread Darren Addy
Yeah. Appears to be cookie-based, not IP based. You can vote from each of your installed web browsers. If you don't accept cookies, you can probably vote all day long. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML,

Re: Model releases/commerical use/etc

2011-01-19 Thread John Sessoms
I find myself in agreement with Paul? Probably means it's time for me to butt out of this conversation. 8-D From: Paul Stenquist Well, if she's right every newspaper in the country and most of the magazines are in big trouble. Go put your fist through a wall. On Jan 19, 2011, at 3:40 PM,

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