Re: OT: Ever wanted to see a Parcel Package Route Map
On Tue, Mar 13, 2012 at 5:47 PM, Charles Robinson charl...@visi.com wrote: On Mar 13, 2012, at 10:33, Jeffery Johnson wrote: Yeah sometimes I can be a bit obsessive so I located the following site to track packages giving you a visual map: http://www.packagemapping.com/ Here's my brother's most-recent iPad (iPad 2, refurbished) purchase if you need a number to see how it looks: http://www.packagemapping.com/?action=trackshipper=upsmitracknum=497394749006uniqueID=; Told ya the world was flat Dave -Charles -- Charles Robinson - charl...@visi.com Minneapolis, MN http://charles.robinsontwins.org http://www.facebook.com/charles.robinson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Documenting Life in Rural Ontario. www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ York Region, Ontario, Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: GESO: Photowalk -- 3/13/2012
First dog shot and all of the building shots are nice. Nice perspective on the last flower shot Dave On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 1:18 AM, Walt Gilbert ldott...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all, But for the extremely sunny conditions, it was the perfect day to get out on a photowalk. So, for the first time since winter kicked in, I decided to take the K-x and K1000D out, fitted with the A 50/1.7 and the Promaster 70-300/4.5-5.6 respectively, and put them through the paces. Here are the preliminary keepers from the afternoon: http://www.flickriver.com/photos/walt_gilbert/sets/72157629581602575/ Any input is appreciated. I was just happy to get out of range of the cordless phone. Thanks! Walt -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Documenting Life in Rural Ontario. www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ York Region, Ontario, Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Yellow Sunset Through Palm
Pretty photo Dave On Tue, Mar 13, 2012 at 4:22 PM, Daniel J. Matyola danmaty...@gmail.com wrote: http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=15039260size=md Comments are invited. Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Documenting Life in Rural Ontario. www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ York Region, Ontario, Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Mid-winter by the Lake
Nice peaceful feel to it Dave On Tue, Mar 13, 2012 at 8:35 PM, frank theriault knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote: Taken maybe a month ago, when by mid-afternoon the sun was low in the sky: http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.com/2012/03/mid-winter-by-lake.html Hope you enjoy. Comments welcome. cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Documenting Life in Rural Ontario. www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ York Region, Ontario, Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Snowdrop
Nice, Good detail and exposure and nice pleasant back drop Dave On Tue, Mar 13, 2012 at 8:51 PM, Paul Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote: My annual snowdrop photo. They bloomed Sunday, but I just got around to shooting one today. K-5 with the Vivitar Seres 1 90/2.5 macro (first version), f11 @ 1/125, ISO 800. Love being able to push the ISO for macro shots with the K-5. Love the bokeh of that classic Vivitar lens as well. http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=15348632size=lg -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Documenting Life in Rural Ontario. www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ York Region, Ontario, Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO -- The Tower III
Very nice. Dave On Mon, Mar 12, 2012 at 8:56 PM, P. J. Alling webstertwenty...@gmail.com wrote: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1604247/PESO/PESO%20--%20thetoweriii.html Equipment: Pentax K20D w/smc Pentax FA 20-35mm f4.0 As usual comments are welcome but may be totally ignored. -- Don't lose heart! They might want to cut it out, and they'll want to avoid a lengthily search. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Documenting Life in Rural Ontario. www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ York Region, Ontario, Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
OT - Online critics
So I came across this via FB today... There is a flickr group called deleteme where images in the groups pool of photos is voted on to either be be retained of deleted. Someone decided to test members visual literacy photographic knowledge by submitting this photo (read the comments): http://www.flickr.com/photos/andrerabelo/70458366/ Cheers, Dave -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Wanted: Pentax 6x7 body cap and 67 lens rear caps
I may have, let me have a look in my piles o stuff Dave On Tue, Mar 13, 2012 at 11:28 PM, Darren Addy pixelsmi...@gmail.com wrote: On the off chance that some of my fellow PDMLers have a draw of Pentax Detritus (he was the Roman god of junk drawers) I beseech thee. I need a Pentax 6x7 body cap and two 67 lens rear caps. Should my wail fail, I shall be forced to cast my eyes upon that infernal auction site... and we all know how dangerous that can be (in more ways than one). Drop me a line should you have something available. Darren Addy Kearney, Nebraska -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Documenting Life in Rural Ontario. www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ York Region, Ontario, Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Lightroom 4 released
On Tue, Mar 13, 2012 at 8:25 PM, John Francis jo...@panix.com wrote: On Tue, Mar 06, 2012 at 08:21:42AM -0600, George Sinos wrote: Lightroom 4 was released as we've been expecting. What's unexpected is the lower $149 price. The upgrade price is down to $79. Great. That's $79 for the software, and $1799 for a new notebook http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=6710849CatId=4939 (plus a little extra to upgrade the memory - I think it will take 16G). LOL I had to upgrade my iBook to iMac to do the lightroom 2-3 upgrade. BTW my copy of LR2, ordered Saturday, came last night via FedEx. Not bad, now to the upgrade cave software man. Dave -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Documenting Life in Rural Ontario. www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ York Region, Ontario, Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Lightroom 4 released
On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 5:41 AM, David J Brooks pentko...@gmail.com wrote: That should be LR4 not LR2. Thats what happens when you type in the dark. Dave BTW my copy of LR2, ordered Saturday, came last night via FedEx. Not bad, now to the upgrade cave software man. Dave -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Documenting Life in Rural Ontario. www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ York Region, Ontario, Canada -- Documenting Life in Rural Ontario. www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ York Region, Ontario, Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Peso roof line
From Sundays walk. The buildings down town Stouffville are old, and usually build very close to each other. http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=15350193 K-5 D FA 50 f2.8 and f5.6 ISO 160 Dave -- Documenting Life in Rural Ontario. www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ York Region, Ontario, Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Anybody still shooting wet plates?
Plinking in the rain? No seriously, there is a guy in Hamburg who holds wet plate workshops if you are ever in the area. There was an article about his work in photographie magazine a while ago, it was pretty cool. Cheers Ecke 2012/3/13 Darren Addy pixelsmi...@gmail.com: Sorry, just trying to find a cooler niche in the wake of the Anybody still shooting film? subject line. : ) Darren Addy Kearney, Nebraska -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: GESO Letting loose
I suppose it's only because of my newness to the process that I saw all this background activity that was going on completely unnoticed. Eventually I may start ignoring the man behind the curtains myself -- but I hope I retain to the ability to see him. My inner child's eyes. The makeup artist requested and now has these shots for his portfolio. The models love them too. Thank you very much, Frank! On Tue, Mar 13, 2012 at 10:39 PM, knarftheria...@gmail.com knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote: I'm sure I'm not supposed to, but my favourite shots are the first three, of the makeup artist doing his work and then the model looking very pleased at the result. Brings some humanity to the whole fashion/modelling thing. The fashion shots are wonderful, too. My fave is Paper. Sounds and looks like a terrific afternoon. Certainly a success if we can judge from the results. Cheers, frank What can be asserted without proof can be dismissed without proof. -- Christopher Hitchens --- Original Message --- From: Bruce Walker bruce.wal...@gmail.com Sent: March 13, 2012 3/13/12 To: Pentax Discuss Mailing List PDML@pdml.net Subject: GESO Letting loose Cut to the chase: http://goo.gl/mbTQU ... scroll down 7 shots to where the BW's start. On the weekend I attended a workshop on directing and posing models in the studio. A very cozy affair, our teacher Neeto da Silva held it in her home studio that she sets up in a lovely low-rise apartment around the corner from the old and iconic Maple Leaf Gardens in downtown Toronto. I met Neeto at the very first studio collaborative TF shoot I attended. Another photog and I were hugely impressed by her easy command of the set and the models, and discussed it with her. In some follow up email she agreed to tailer a workshop for the other photog and myself, and arranged to have two models and a makeup artist on hand. The shots in this GESO are mostly behind-the-scenes candids, but also three shots from a flying hair sequence. Both of the models had gorgeous, long hair and we were directed to use that and have fun with it. It took me a while to really let loose and get creative, but I did and I'm still feeling the high from this workshop, 3 days later. For equipment junkies: K20D, DA* 50-135/2.8, ISO 100. f/8 give or take. 2 x Elinchrom BX500 NI monolights with Profoto softboxes (24 I think). The candids are ISO 1600, various wide apertures (see the individual shots), natural room light from floor to ceiling windows. Comments welcome! -- -bmw -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- -bmw -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: GESO Letting loose
Thank you, Paul. Appreciate it! On Tue, Mar 13, 2012 at 10:46 PM, Paul Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote: Nice set. Letting Loose is my favorite, but I like them all. The backstage shots are high interest and well done. On Mar 13, 2012, at 9:14 AM, Jack Davis wrote: My choice is the first BW hair shot. Fan, however, is VERY strong in all. Exposures are well handled. Jack From: Bruce Walker bruce.wal...@gmail.com To: Pentax Discuss Mailing List PDML@pdml.net Sent: Tuesday, March 13, 2012 4:48 AM Subject: GESO Letting loose Cut to the chase: http://goo.gl/mbTQU ... scroll down 7 shots to where the BW's start. On the weekend I attended a workshop on directing and posing models in the studio. A very cozy affair, our teacher Neeto da Silva held it in her home studio that she sets up in a lovely low-rise apartment around the corner from the old and iconic Maple Leaf Gardens in downtown Toronto. I met Neeto at the very first studio collaborative TF shoot I attended. Another photog and I were hugely impressed by her easy command of the set and the models, and discussed it with her. In some follow up email she agreed to tailer a workshop for the other photog and myself, and arranged to have two models and a makeup artist on hand. The shots in this GESO are mostly behind-the-scenes candids, but also three shots from a flying hair sequence. Both of the models had gorgeous, long hair and we were directed to use that and have fun with it. It took me a while to really let loose and get creative, but I did and I'm still feeling the high from this workshop, 3 days later. For equipment junkies: K20D, DA* 50-135/2.8, ISO 100. f/8 give or take. 2 x Elinchrom BX500 NI monolights with Profoto softboxes (24 I think). The candids are ISO 1600, various wide apertures (see the individual shots), natural room light from floor to ceiling windows. Comments welcome! -- -bmw -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- -bmw -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: GESO: Photowalk -- 3/13/2012
Very good stuff, Walt. I love seeing that flowering tree -- is it a cherry, or apple? I like that crumbling window, but I think a more squarish crop, in tight, might be better. I'd try an 8x10 format. On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 1:18 AM, Walt Gilbert ldott...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all, But for the extremely sunny conditions, it was the perfect day to get out on a photowalk. So, for the first time since winter kicked in, I decided to take the K-x and K1000D out, fitted with the A 50/1.7 and the Promaster 70-300/4.5-5.6 respectively, and put them through the paces. Here are the preliminary keepers from the afternoon: http://www.flickriver.com/photos/walt_gilbert/sets/72157629581602575/ Any input is appreciated. I was just happy to get out of range of the cordless phone. Thanks! Walt -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- -bmw -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Peso roof line
I really like your composition, Dave. All the diagonal lines make it subtly dynamic. On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 5:53 AM, David J Brooks pentko...@gmail.com wrote: From Sundays walk. The buildings down town Stouffville are old, and usually build very close to each other. http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=15350193 K-5 D FA 50 f2.8 and f5.6 ISO 160 Dave -- Documenting Life in Rural Ontario. www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ York Region, Ontario, Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- -bmw -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Snowdrop
Larry, I'm surprised that you of all people don't know the difference between a drop and a flake. From: Larry Colen I thought it was Mark C that was shooting snow drops. On 3/13/2012 5:51 PM, Paul Stenquist wrote: My annual snowdrop photo. They bloomed Sunday, but I just got around to shooting one today. K-5 with the Vivitar Seres 1 90/2.5 macro (first version), f11 @ 1/125, ISO 800. Love being able to push the ISO for macro shots with the K-5. Love the bokeh of that classic Vivitar lens as well. http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=15348632size=lg Nicely done, great choice of focus point, background, composition etc. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO -- The Tower IV
Like this, Peter! Believe I'd prefer the little red thing go away, however. It's a bit of a distraction that would be difficult for me to explain. :-) Jack - Original Message - From: P. J. Alling webstertwenty...@gmail.com To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Cc: Sent: Tuesday, March 13, 2012 9:07 PM Subject: PESO -- The Tower IV http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1604247/PESO/PESO%20--%20thetoweriv.html Equipment: Pentax K20D w/smc Pentax FA 20-35mm f4.0 As usual comments are welcome but may be totally ignored. -- Don't lose heart! They might want to cut it out, and they'll want to avoid a lengthily search. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: 4x% Kodachromes from WWII
From: John Coyle
I started with blue flash-bulbs in 1967. They had a long burn time (1/40 to
1/60 second)
with a rapid climb to full output, then an even peak output followed by rapid
drop-off at
the end of the burn. The 'M' setting on the camera I was using at the time (a
Voigtlander
Vito CD) was what you used for these bulbs, although the camera also had an 'X'
setting
for them new-fangled electronic flashes.
The settings ensured that the shutter opened first, then the flash fired. The
shutter
speed had to be set at 1/30 or slower, so that the flash output occurred while
the shutter
was fully open, otherwise you'd get a black bar at one side or the other, where
the film
was unexposed. Aperture was calculated from the guide number of the flash and
the speed
of the film, and I found I could seldom close down beyond f8, even at 400 ASA.
The bulbs
were coated with a blue substance to match the colour temperature of noon
daylight, so
fill-in flash was possible.
There was a third shutter setting option, FP ('flash-peak'), which would allow
the use of
bulbs designed for focal-plane shutters, and these you could use at speeds from
1/30th
upwards to 1/1000th, although I never had a camera with that facility until I
got a
Rolleicord, where you could use the 'V' setting to fire the flash at any speed
- basically
because the shutter was a between-lens type.
Open to correction on some of the technicalities, it's been a long time since
I had to
think about such matters!
I think the M-sync fired the bulb first and then opened the shutter.
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Re: Wanted: Pentax 6x7 body cap and 67 lens rear caps
From: Darren Addy On the off chance that some of my fellow PDMLers have a draw of Pentax Detritus (he was the Roman god of junk drawers) I beseech thee. I need a Pentax 6x7 body cap and two 67 lens rear caps. Should my wail fail, I shall be forced to cast my eyes upon that infernal auction site... and we all know how dangerous that can be (in more ways than one). Drop me a line should you have something available. KEH is showing an EX condition body cap ($10) two rear lens caps, EX ($9) BGN ($7). -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: 4x% Kodachromes from WWII
On 3/14/2012 8:32 AM, John Sessoms wrote:
From: John Coyle
I started with blue flash-bulbs in 1967. They had a long burn time
(1/40 to 1/60 second)
with a rapid climb to full output, then an even peak output followed
by rapid drop-off at
the end of the burn. The 'M' setting on the camera I was using at
the time (a Voigtlander
Vito CD) was what you used for these bulbs, although the camera also
had an 'X' setting
for them new-fangled electronic flashes.
The settings ensured that the shutter opened first, then the flash
fired. The shutter
speed had to be set at 1/30 or slower, so that the flash output
occurred while the shutter
was fully open, otherwise you'd get a black bar at one side or the
other, where the film
was unexposed. Aperture was calculated from the guide number of the
flash and the speed
of the film, and I found I could seldom close down beyond f8, even at
400 ASA. The bulbs
were coated with a blue substance to match the colour temperature of
noon daylight, so
fill-in flash was possible.
There was a third shutter setting option, FP ('flash-peak'), which
would allow the use of
bulbs designed for focal-plane shutters, and these you could use at
speeds from 1/30th
upwards to 1/1000th, although I never had a camera with that facility
until I got a
Rolleicord, where you could use the 'V' setting to fire the flash at
any speed - basically
because the shutter was a between-lens type.
Open to correction on some of the technicalities, it's been a long
time since I had to
think about such matters!
I think the M-sync fired the bulb first and then opened the shutter.
FP sync did that, the standard luminance chart for FP bulbs shows a
sharp spike which then trails off at a relatively constant light out put
for quite some time afterwords, I tried to find an image of that chart
but couldn't. Just imagine a chart of these arbitrary numbers
Flash fires -- 0 1 15 20 15 14 14 14 14 13 13 13 12 11 9 7 5 3 1 0
The shutter opens when the value drops to 15 to insure that the film is
relatively evenly exposed. That's what FP bulbs were all about.
M sync the shutter begins to open then the flash fires (on a leaf
shutter before the shutter is fully open, but on a focal plane shutter
after the shutter is fully open to capture as much of the light as
possible.
The chart for M bulbs is more like this
Flash fires - 0 1 15 20 15 10 5 3 2 1
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Re: PESO: Snowdrop
Paul, I always look forward to your annual snowdrop shot. This is a particularly nice one--very graceful, and you're right about the lovely bokeh. Rick http://photo.net/photos/RickW - Original Message - From: Paul Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Cc: Sent: Tuesday, March 13, 2012 8:51 PM Subject: PESO: Snowdrop My annual snowdrop photo. They bloomed Sunday, but I just got around to shooting one today. K-5 with the Vivitar Seres 1 90/2.5 macro (first version), f11 @ 1/125, ISO 800. Love being able to push the ISO for macro shots with the K-5. Love the bokeh of that classic Vivitar lens as well. http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=15348632size=lg -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
GESO - Magnum Contacts
Popped into the curator talk at Stills Gallery tonight for the Magnum Contacts show. Beautiful presentation, and the talk was funny, informative and charming. Highly recommended if you are in Sydney for the next week. Bonus, there are some gob smacking huge Trent Parke prints on the other side of the gallery, itself worth a visit http://members.iinet.net.au/~derbyc/12/12_03/12_03_magnumcontact/index.htm -- der...@iinet.net.au http://members.iinet.net.au/~derbyc -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
PESO 2012 - 041 - GDG
I was browsing through the photos from my trip in October 2011. This one on the train station at Belfast caught my eye ... http://www.flickr.com/photos/gdgphoto/6981956135/lightbox/ or http://www.flickr.com/photos/gdgphoto/6981956135/ enjoy! Godfrey - http://godfreydigiorgi.posterous.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
OT: Happy Pi Day
3/14 is Pi Day! http://www.piday.org/ By happy coincidence, it is also Albert Einstein's Birthday. Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Yellow Sunset Through Palm
Thanks, Dave. Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 4:55 AM, David J Brooks pentko...@gmail.com wrote: Pretty photo Dave On Tue, Mar 13, 2012 at 4:22 PM, Daniel J. Matyola danmaty...@gmail.com wrote: http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=15039260size=md Comments are invited. Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO -- The Tower IV
Nice perspective and effective use of the shadows. I like the little red thing. It is incongruous, and adds a bit of mystery and reality at the same time. Litter happens. Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 12:07 AM, P. J. Alling webstertwenty...@gmail.com wrote: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1604247/PESO/PESO%20--%20thetoweriv.html Equipment: Pentax K20D w/smc Pentax FA 20-35mm f4.0 As usual comments are welcome but may be totally ignored. -- Don't lose heart! They might want to cut it out, and they'll want to avoid a lengthily search. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Peso roof line
I like the interesting mix of textures and architectural details. Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 5:53 AM, David J Brooks pentko...@gmail.com wrote: From Sundays walk. The buildings down town Stouffville are old, and usually build very close to each other. http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=15350193 K-5 D FA 50 f2.8 and f5.6 ISO 160 Dave -- Documenting Life in Rural Ontario. www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ York Region, Ontario, Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: GESO: Photowalk -- 3/13/2012
A very nice gallery. I especially like to two featuring old barns or garages and the two dog images. Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 1:18 AM, Walt Gilbert ldott...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all, But for the extremely sunny conditions, it was the perfect day to get out on a photowalk. So, for the first time since winter kicked in, I decided to take the K-x and K1000D out, fitted with the A 50/1.7 and the Promaster 70-300/4.5-5.6 respectively, and put them through the paces. Here are the preliminary keepers from the afternoon: http://www.flickriver.com/photos/walt_gilbert/sets/72157629581602575/ Any input is appreciated. I was just happy to get out of range of the cordless phone. Thanks! Walt -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO -- The Tower IV
Yes, Better with the red thing than without... Regards, Bob S. On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 9:13 AM, Daniel J. Matyola danmaty...@gmail.com wrote: Nice perspective and effective use of the shadows. I like the little red thing. It is incongruous, and adds a bit of mystery and reality at the same time. Litter happens. Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 12:07 AM, P. J. Alling webstertwenty...@gmail.com wrote: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1604247/PESO/PESO%20--%20thetoweriv.html Equipment: Pentax K20D w/smc Pentax FA 20-35mm f4.0 As usual comments are welcome but may be totally ignored. -- Don't lose heart! They might want to cut it out, and they'll want to avoid a lengthily search. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: GESO: Photowalk -- 3/13/2012
Thank you, David. The flowers are just about perfectly situated for photographing, sitting on top of a steep roadside embankment, about seven feet above the road. Just a hop over a shallow ditch and about two steps up the side of the embankment, and you're right there. The biggest challenge is not sliding down the embankment. -- Walt On 3/14/2012 3:54 AM, David J Brooks wrote: First dog shot and all of the building shots are nice. Nice perspective on the last flower shot Dave On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 1:18 AM, Walt Gilbertldott...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all, But for the extremely sunny conditions, it was the perfect day to get out on a photowalk. So, for the first time since winter kicked in, I decided to take the K-x and K1000D out, fitted with the A 50/1.7 and the Promaster 70-300/4.5-5.6 respectively, and put them through the paces. Here are the preliminary keepers from the afternoon: http://www.flickriver.com/photos/walt_gilbert/sets/72157629581602575/ Any input is appreciated. I was just happy to get out of range of the cordless phone. Thanks! Walt -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
I never enter photo contests BUT...
I did this one. Theme: Landscape. Most Likes wins. Should anyone care to register at the (relatively new) camera-enthusiast.com forum, then they can Like their favorite image. If it happens to be mine, I thank you, but there are many worthy images there (and not a lot of Likes on any of them so far). My entry is the previously well-liked PESO image I took of a Kansas Gust Front: http://www.flickr.com/photos/pixelsmithy/4722534814/in/photostream/ The gallery of contest entries is found here: http://www.camera-enthusiast.com/forums/useralbums/fuji-x10-giveaway-submissions.7/view (Mine is in the last row, Waay down there, as I type this). Darren Addy Kearney, Nebraska -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Pentax Forums in depth review of the K-01
- Mensaje original - De: Larry Colen l...@red4est.com Asunto: Pentax Forums in depth review of the K-01 http://www.pentaxforums.com/reviews/pentax-k-01-review/ It is a bit sad to read that autofocus is still Pentax Achilles' heel, now with contrast detection AF. But for me, and after my experience with a Sony NEX, the real problem of this camera is the lack of articulated LCD screen and (at least optional) electronic viewfinder. And this time it is not a problem of space, I would say... Regards,Jaume -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: I never enter photo contests BUT...
Nice, Darren On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 10:40 AM, Darren Addy pixelsmi...@gmail.com wrote: I did this one. Theme: Landscape. Most Likes wins. Should anyone care to register at the (relatively new) camera-enthusiast.com forum, then they can Like their favorite image. If it happens to be mine, I thank you, but there are many worthy images there (and not a lot of Likes on any of them so far). My entry is the previously well-liked PESO image I took of a Kansas Gust Front: http://www.flickr.com/photos/pixelsmithy/4722534814/in/photostream/ The gallery of contest entries is found here: http://www.camera-enthusiast.com/forums/useralbums/fuji-x10-giveaway-submissions.7/view (Mine is in the last row, Waay down there, as I type this). Darren Addy Kearney, Nebraska -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: GESO: Photowalk -- 3/13/2012
On 3/14/2012 6:35 AM, Bruce Walker wrote: Very good stuff, Walt. I love seeing that flowering tree -- is it a cherry, or apple? Thank you, Bruce! I believe that's a Bradford pear tree, if I'm not mistaken. They're beautiful when they blossom in spring, and grow really fast. But, from my experience, you have to be hyper vigilant about keeping them pruned. Otherwise, they shed limbs like crazy and split at the slightest provocation. I like that crumbling window, but I think a more squarish crop, in tight, might be better. I'd try an 8x10 format. I toyed with that crop aspect at first, but for some reason, my eye wanted to see more of the brickwork. I'll have to revisit it since you mentioned it. Thanks for the input! -- Walt On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 1:18 AM, Walt Gilbertldott...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all, But for the extremely sunny conditions, it was the perfect day to get out on a photowalk. So, for the first time since winter kicked in, I decided to take the K-x and K1000D out, fitted with the A 50/1.7 and the Promaster 70-300/4.5-5.6 respectively, and put them through the paces. Here are the preliminary keepers from the afternoon: http://www.flickriver.com/photos/walt_gilbert/sets/72157629581602575/ Any input is appreciated. I was just happy to get out of range of the cordless phone. Thanks! Walt -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO -- The Tower IV
I agree. Red thing should stay. :-) Nice! On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 10:22 AM, Bob Sullivan rf.sulli...@gmail.com wrote: Yes, Better with the red thing than without... Regards, Bob S. On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 9:13 AM, Daniel J. Matyola danmaty...@gmail.com wrote: Nice perspective and effective use of the shadows. I like the little red thing. It is incongruous, and adds a bit of mystery and reality at the same time. Litter happens. Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 12:07 AM, P. J. Alling webstertwenty...@gmail.com wrote: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1604247/PESO/PESO%20--%20thetoweriv.html Equipment: Pentax K20D w/smc Pentax FA 20-35mm f4.0 As usual comments are welcome but may be totally ignored. -- Don't lose heart! They might want to cut it out, and they'll want to avoid a lengthily search. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- -bmw -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Pentax Forums in depth review of the K-01
From my reading of the review, it doesn't say that the K-01's contrast detection AF is much worse than anyone else's, just that it's worse than phase detection AF. This is still true in general for mirrorless system cameras. I'm not saying it's great but merely that they didn't compare the contrast detection AF with anything else. On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 10:42 AM, Jaume Lahuerta jlah...@yahoo.com wrote: - Mensaje original - De: Larry Colen l...@red4est.com Asunto: Pentax Forums in depth review of the K-01 http://www.pentaxforums.com/reviews/pentax-k-01-review/ It is a bit sad to read that autofocus is still Pentax Achilles' heel, now with contrast detection AF. But for me, and after my experience with a Sony NEX, the real problem of this camera is the lack of articulated LCD screen and (at least optional) electronic viewfinder. And this time it is not a problem of space, I would say... Regards,Jaume -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Steve Desjardins -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Lightroom 4 released
On Mar 9, 2012, at 13:50, Tim Bray wrote: Just been using it for a couple days, but the new 2012 process, uh... makes my pictures look better. I've been struggling with one issue - sometimes I'll hit the auto button in the TONE box to get my exposure into the ballpark before fiddling. With LR3 it was always pretty darned close. With LR4 I get consistently at least a couple of stops too dark - like the only thing it's doing is throwing the entire exposure to the left to preserve the highlights. Anyone else see that when they hit that auto button? -Charles -- Charles Robinson - charl...@visi.com Minneapolis, MN http://charles.robinsontwins.org http://www.facebook.com/charles.robinson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: I never enter photo contests BUT...
ponder-out-loud Why is there never an image-enthusiast.com site? /ponder-out-loud On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 10:40 AM, Darren Addy pixelsmi...@gmail.com wrote: I did this one. Theme: Landscape. Most Likes wins. Should anyone care to register at the (relatively new) camera-enthusiast.com forum, then they can Like their favorite image. If it happens to be mine, I thank you, but there are many worthy images there (and not a lot of Likes on any of them so far). My entry is the previously well-liked PESO image I took of a Kansas Gust Front: http://www.flickr.com/photos/pixelsmithy/4722534814/in/photostream/ The gallery of contest entries is found here: http://www.camera-enthusiast.com/forums/useralbums/fuji-x10-giveaway-submissions.7/view (Mine is in the last row, Waay down there, as I type this). Darren Addy Kearney, Nebraska -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- -bmw -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT - Online critics
These kind of tests also reveal something of the nature of famous photos. A lot of folks don't like Picasso either. ;-) On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 5:10 AM, David Savage ozsav...@gmail.com wrote: So I came across this via FB today... There is a flickr group called deleteme where images in the groups pool of photos is voted on to either be be retained of deleted. Someone decided to test members visual literacy photographic knowledge by submitting this photo (read the comments): http://www.flickr.com/photos/andrerabelo/70458366/ Cheers, Dave -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Steve Desjardins -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: GESO: Photowalk -- 3/13/2012
Thanks, Dan! Those are old Burley tobacco barns that don't get much use these days as very few farmers grow it anymore. The old saying goes, you have to be strong in the back and weak in the mind to grow tobacco -- and I guess all the old guys' backs have finally given out. The dog was too good-looking a beast not to get a few shots of him -- extremely friendly and kind of a goofball. I'd have probably spent the rest of my daylight playing with him if he hadn't lost interest an gone on about his business. I got a few other shots of him that I liked, but am still working to see what I want to do with them. Thanks again! -- Walt On 3/14/2012 9:19 AM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote: A very nice gallery. I especially like to two featuring old barns or garages and the two dog images. Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 1:18 AM, Walt Gilbertldott...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all, But for the extremely sunny conditions, it was the perfect day to get out on a photowalk. So, for the first time since winter kicked in, I decided to take the K-x and K1000D out, fitted with the A 50/1.7 and the Promaster 70-300/4.5-5.6 respectively, and put them through the paces. Here are the preliminary keepers from the afternoon: http://www.flickriver.com/photos/walt_gilbert/sets/72157629581602575/ Any input is appreciated. I was just happy to get out of range of the cordless phone. Thanks! Walt -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT: Ever wanted to see a Parcel Package Route Map
The world is flat. It's just that space-time is curved. On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 4:49 AM, David J Brooks pentko...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Mar 13, 2012 at 5:47 PM, Charles Robinson charl...@visi.com wrote: On Mar 13, 2012, at 10:33, Jeffery Johnson wrote: Yeah sometimes I can be a bit obsessive so I located the following site to track packages giving you a visual map: http://www.packagemapping.com/ Here's my brother's most-recent iPad (iPad 2, refurbished) purchase if you need a number to see how it looks: http://www.packagemapping.com/?action=trackshipper=upsmitracknum=497394749006uniqueID=; Told ya the world was flat Dave -Charles -- Charles Robinson - charl...@visi.com Minneapolis, MN http://charles.robinsontwins.org http://www.facebook.com/charles.robinson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Documenting Life in Rural Ontario. www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ York Region, Ontario, Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Steve Desjardins -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
OT: Interesting stitched image
I thought this was an interesting image: http://i.imgur.com/wy1r4.jpg It is said to have been stitched from 11 shots. I don't know who took it; the only information I have is from the website where I found the image: http://www.bspcn.com/2012/03/13/this-is-a-11-shot-image-stitched-together-to-make-one-image/ Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Lightroom 4 released
Oh damn, I hope that's not a new feature. I use the Auto button quite often when faced with an unknown or tricky exposure and it's usually a good start. Send them your feedback. The Lr boys are still iterating it and issuing patch updates, from the Twitter traffic I've seen. On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 10:50 AM, Charles Robinson charl...@visi.com wrote: On Mar 9, 2012, at 13:50, Tim Bray wrote: Just been using it for a couple days, but the new 2012 process, uh... makes my pictures look better. I've been struggling with one issue - sometimes I'll hit the auto button in the TONE box to get my exposure into the ballpark before fiddling. With LR3 it was always pretty darned close. With LR4 I get consistently at least a couple of stops too dark - like the only thing it's doing is throwing the entire exposure to the left to preserve the highlights. Anyone else see that when they hit that auto button? -Charles -- Charles Robinson - charl...@visi.com Minneapolis, MN http://charles.robinsontwins.org http://www.facebook.com/charles.robinson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- -bmw -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
PESO: Red Sunset with Palm
http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=15039257 Comments will be appreciated. Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT: Interesting stitched image
Whoa! Our local-contrast knobs go to 11. :-) Reminds me of the that 1977 Weather Report album cover. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heavy_Weather_(album) On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 10:58 AM, Daniel J. Matyola danmaty...@gmail.com wrote: I thought this was an interesting image: http://i.imgur.com/wy1r4.jpg It is said to have been stitched from 11 shots. I don't know who took it; the only information I have is from the website where I found the image: http://www.bspcn.com/2012/03/13/this-is-a-11-shot-image-stitched-together-to-make-one-image/ Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- -bmw -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT: Interesting stitched image
On Mar 14, 2012, at 9:58, Daniel J. Matyola wrote: I thought this was an interesting image: http://i.imgur.com/wy1r4.jpg It is said to have been stitched from 11 shots. I don't know who took it; the only information I have is from the website where I found the image: http://www.bspcn.com/2012/03/13/this-is-a-11-shot-image-stitched-together-to-make-one-image/ Man, that's been HDR'ed all to hell. Could have been a nice picture, now it's more like something on a movie poster or a science fiction paperback. I would like to see this one with a slightly-closer-to-real tone map! -Charles -- Charles Robinson - charl...@visi.com Minneapolis, MN http://charles.robinsontwins.org http://www.facebook.com/charles.robinson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Red Sunset with Palm
Oh, that's stunning colour, Dan. I'm bothered by the dark silhouette foreground. I experimentally cropped that with my fingers and I think it's stronger. try cropping across the bottom so the horizon is just barely in-frame. It becomes more of a study in texture and colour. Anyways, a beaut. On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 11:04 AM, Daniel J. Matyola danmaty...@gmail.com wrote: http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=15039257 Comments will be appreciated. Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- -bmw -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: I never enter photo contests BUT...
Man, that's a whole gang of images! I do like yours a lot, but I can't seem to get my Like to take. I'm sure I've said it before, but I've always wanted to do storm photography out on the plains. We get some decent storms here in KY that would make nice photos if it weren't for the topography. The best I've ever gotten was a big roll cloud, but it just doesn't look as dramatic as it would with a flatter, less cluttered horizon. Good luck! -- Walt On 3/14/2012 9:40 AM, Darren Addy wrote: I did this one. Theme: Landscape. Most Likes wins. Should anyone care to register at the (relatively new) camera-enthusiast.com forum, then they can Like their favorite image. If it happens to be mine, I thank you, but there are many worthy images there (and not a lot of Likes on any of them so far). My entry is the previously well-liked PESO image I took of a Kansas Gust Front: http://www.flickr.com/photos/pixelsmithy/4722534814/in/photostream/ The gallery of contest entries is found here: http://www.camera-enthusiast.com/forums/useralbums/fuji-x10-giveaway-submissions.7/view (Mine is in the last row, Waay down there, as I type this). Darren Addy Kearney, Nebraska -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: GESO - Magnum Contacts
Cool. Looks like a wonderful exhibit. Hope it eventually makes it to Toronto. Thanks for the report and wonderful photos. Cheers, frank What can be asserted without proof can be dismissed without proof. -- Christopher Hitchens --- Original Message --- From: Derby Chang der...@iinet.net.au Sent: March 14, 2012 3/14/12 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: GESO - Magnum Contacts Popped into the curator talk at Stills Gallery tonight for the Magnum Contacts show. Beautiful presentation, and the talk was funny, informative and charming. Highly recommended if you are in Sydney for the next week. Bonus, there are some gob smacking huge Trent Parke prints on the other side of the gallery, itself worth a visit http://members.iinet.net.au/~derbyc/12/12_03/12_03_magnumcontact/index.htm -- der...@iinet.net.au http://members.iinet.net.au/~derbyc -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Frosty
Thanks Walt and Dan! cheers, frank What can be asserted without proof can be dismissed without proof. -- Christopher Hitchens --- Original Message --- From: Walt Gilbert ldott...@gmail.com Sent: March 14, 2012 3/14/12 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: PESO - Frosty I like it very much, Frank! It's pleasantly evocative. -- Walt On 3/12/2012 8:50 PM, frank theriault wrote: The title refers to the frosty window I was shooting through (three of my fingers are to be seen reflected in the glass on her dark coat, but I was too lazy to remove them in PS). I haven't decided if I like this photo or not but I'll post it anyway: http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.com/2012/03/frosty.html It was taken about a month ago, the morning after one of our few snowfalls this winter. It had all melted by that afternoon. Hope you enjoy. Comments welcome. cheers, frank -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: I never enter photo contests BUT...
Worthy entry, Darren. I clicked on likes. Does that mean I voted for it? Jack - Original Message - From: Darren Addy pixelsmi...@gmail.com To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Cc: Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2012 7:40 AM Subject: I never enter photo contests BUT... I did this one. Theme: Landscape. Most Likes wins. Should anyone care to register at the (relatively new) camera-enthusiast.com forum, then they can Like their favorite image. If it happens to be mine, I thank you, but there are many worthy images there (and not a lot of Likes on any of them so far). My entry is the previously well-liked PESO image I took of a Kansas Gust Front: http://www.flickr.com/photos/pixelsmithy/4722534814/in/photostream/ The gallery of contest entries is found here: http://www.camera-enthusiast.com/forums/useralbums/fuji-x10-giveaway-submissions.7/view (Mine is in the last row, Waay down there, as I type this). Darren Addy Kearney, Nebraska -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: GESO: Photowalk -- 3/13/2012
Like 'em all, especially that Purina wall and double especially the front porch. Such a slice of Americana! And you caught the flag just right. Perfect! cheers, frank What can be asserted without proof can be dismissed without proof. -- Christopher Hitchens --- Original Message --- From: Walt Gilbert ldott...@gmail.com Sent: March 14, 2012 3/14/12 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: GESO: Photowalk -- 3/13/2012 Hi all, But for the extremely sunny conditions, it was the perfect day to get out on a photowalk. So, for the first time since winter kicked in, I decided to take the K-x and K1000D out, fitted with the A 50/1.7 and the Promaster 70-300/4.5-5.6 respectively, and put them through the paces. Here are the preliminary keepers from the afternoon: http://www.flickriver.com/photos/walt_gilbert/sets/72157629581602575/ Any input is appreciated. I was just happy to get out of range of the cordless phone. Thanks! Walt -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: OT - Online critics
I think it was posted here at least twice before. But it's still funny. If nothing else it shows how braking the rules can make for an outstanding photo. ;-) cheers, frank What can be asserted without proof can be dismissed without proof. -- Christopher Hitchens --- Original Message --- From: David Savage ozsav...@gmail.com Sent: March 14, 2012 3/14/12 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: OT - Online critics So I came across this via FB today... There is a flickr group called deleteme where images in the groups pool of photos is voted on to either be be retained of deleted. Someone decided to test members visual literacy photographic knowledge by submitting this photo (read the comments): http://www.flickr.com/photos/andrerabelo/70458366/ Cheers, Dave -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT: Interesting stitched image
On 3/14/12 11:04 AM, Bruce Walker wrote: Whoa! Our local-contrast knobs go to 11. :-) Reminds me of the that 1977 Weather Report album cover. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heavy_Weather_(album) Jaco is a bass god. Off to Grooveshark, boys. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT - Online critics
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Re: GESO: Photowalk -- 3/13/2012
Thank you, Frank! The Purina wall is one I've photographed dozens of times, but manages to keep frustrating me. The roof line of the building is extremely close to the top-left corner of that sign and it always ruins the image in my eye. And the flag on the front porch was the very thing that caught my eye. That particular home has lots of interesting photo fodder on the property -- weeping willows, a duck pond, old horse wagons, old gas station signs, etc -- and one of these days I'm going to see if I can get permission just to wander around on it taking photos. -- Walt On 3/14/2012 10:15 AM, knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote: Like 'em all, especially that Purina wall and double especially the front porch. Such a slice of Americana! And you caught the flag just right. Perfect! cheers, frank What can be asserted without proof can be dismissed without proof. -- Christopher Hitchens --- Original Message --- From: Walt Gilbertldott...@gmail.com Sent: March 14, 2012 3/14/12 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail Listpdml@pdml.net Subject: GESO: Photowalk -- 3/13/2012 Hi all, But for the extremely sunny conditions, it was the perfect day to get out on a photowalk. So, for the first time since winter kicked in, I decided to take the K-x and K1000D out, fitted with the A 50/1.7 and the Promaster 70-300/4.5-5.6 respectively, and put them through the paces. Here are the preliminary keepers from the afternoon: http://www.flickriver.com/photos/walt_gilbert/sets/72157629581602575/ Any input is appreciated. I was just happy to get out of range of the cordless phone. Thanks! Walt -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: GESO - Magnum Contacts
Won't be in Sydney this week, or even the next, but thanks for that gallery of shots, Derby. I see that your favourite kind of art fans were there for you, too. :-) On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 9:19 AM, Derby Chang der...@iinet.net.au wrote: Popped into the curator talk at Stills Gallery tonight for the Magnum Contacts show. Beautiful presentation, and the talk was funny, informative and charming. Highly recommended if you are in Sydney for the next week. Bonus, there are some gob smacking huge Trent Parke prints on the other side of the gallery, itself worth a visit http://members.iinet.net.au/~derbyc/12/12_03/12_03_magnumcontact/index.htm -- der...@iinet.net.au http://members.iinet.net.au/~derbyc -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- -bmw -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: 4x% Kodachromes from WWII
Bulbs like the Press 25, 25b's and GE 5, 5b's were, as I recall, good
for both M sync with leaf shutters and X sync with focal plane shutters,
but the shutter speed with X sync was maxed out at 1/30th. The b
designation indicated a blue bulb for daylight fill and daylight
balanced film. The clear bulbs were balanced for tungsten light. Later
flash for the amateur market used smaller bulbs like the M-5 and later
the peanut sized AG-1.
The FP bulbs, used w/a focal plane shutter, were good across nearly all
shutter speeds because of the long light peak.
Some of the larger graflex-type flashes used the Press 40 bulb, which
was about the size of a 60 watt light bulb.
-p
On 3/14/2012 7:54 AM, P. J. Alling wrote:
On 3/14/2012 8:32 AM, John Sessoms wrote:
From: John Coyle
I started with blue flash-bulbs in 1967. They had a long burn time
(1/40 to 1/60 second)
with a rapid climb to full output, then an even peak output followed
by rapid drop-off at
the end of the burn. The 'M' setting on the camera I was using at the
time (a Voigtlander
Vito CD) was what you used for these bulbs, although the camera also
had an 'X' setting
for them new-fangled electronic flashes.
The settings ensured that the shutter opened first, then the flash
fired. The shutter
speed had to be set at 1/30 or slower, so that the flash output
occurred while the shutter
was fully open, otherwise you'd get a black bar at one side or the
other, where the film
was unexposed. Aperture was calculated from the guide number of the
flash and the speed
of the film, and I found I could seldom close down beyond f8, even at
400 ASA. The bulbs
were coated with a blue substance to match the colour temperature of
noon daylight, so
fill-in flash was possible.
There was a third shutter setting option, FP ('flash-peak'), which
would allow the use of
bulbs designed for focal-plane shutters, and these you could use at
speeds from 1/30th
upwards to 1/1000th, although I never had a camera with that facility
until I got a
Rolleicord, where you could use the 'V' setting to fire the flash at
any speed - basically
because the shutter was a between-lens type.
Open to correction on some of the technicalities, it's been a long
time since I had to
think about such matters!
I think the M-sync fired the bulb first and then opened the shutter.
FP sync did that, the standard luminance chart for FP bulbs shows a
sharp spike which then trails off at a relatively constant light out put
for quite some time afterwords, I tried to find an image of that chart
but couldn't. Just imagine a chart of these arbitrary numbers
Flash fires -- 0 1 15 20 15 14 14 14 14 13 13 13 12 11 9 7 5 3 1 0
The shutter opens when the value drops to 15 to insure that the film is
relatively evenly exposed. That's what FP bulbs were all about.
M sync the shutter begins to open then the flash fires (on a leaf
shutter before the shutter is fully open, but on a focal plane shutter
after the shutter is fully open to capture as much of the light as
possible.
The chart for M bulbs is more like this
Flash fires - 0 1 15 20 15 10 5 3 2 1
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Re: OT - Online critics
On Mar 14, 2012, at 4:10, David Savage wrote: So I came across this via FB today... There is a flickr group called deleteme where images in the groups pool of photos is voted on to either be be retained of deleted. Someone decided to test members visual literacy photographic knowledge by submitting this photo (read the comments): http://www.flickr.com/photos/andrerabelo/70458366/ The general attitude seems to be that it's a bland shot - if you don't consider who shot it. Which brings to mind this question: Just because it was shot by a specific known person, does that make it a better image? Personally, I don't think so. -Charles -- Charles Robinson - charl...@visi.com Minneapolis, MN http://charles.robinsontwins.org http://www.facebook.com/charles.robinson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT - Online critics
On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 11:29 AM, Daniel J. Matyola danmaty...@gmail.com wrote: In a recent thread, many sharply criticized one of the most famous images of AA. Is HCB such a god that he is beyond criticism? I don't think that's really the issue here. Rather, I see two main points: (1) The commenters are oblivious to the fact that it's a famous photograph, showing a weakness in the commenters' understanding of the history of the art form they're critiquing. I see some merit to this argument, but, really, all of us have to decide where to focus our attention, and we all have strengths, weaknesses, and gaps in our knowledge. (2) Most of the complaints were about the technical quality, particularly sharpness. This illustrates a widespread belief, especially in this sort of Internet forum, that perfect technical quality is essential to a good photograph. If that's someone's well-considered belief, fine, but it seems like a lot of people hold this belief without really thinking about it, or without appreciating how many of photography's past works would be rejected under it. Today I was engaged in a discussion about whether the Nikon D700 and D800 are suitable for making large prints (in the sense of Maybe the D800 is, but maybe not the D700.) My response was that if that kind of statement seems reasonable to you, you're saying there haven't been many adequate prints in the history of photography. It's a narrow technical view that, even I as a sensor and instrumentation geek, am getting weary of. I'm glad for the ever-increasing capabilities of our equipment, but at some point you need to just look at the picture! -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: 4x% Kodachromes from WWII
On Mar 14, 2012, at 10:44, Paul Sorenson wrote: The FP bulbs, used w/a focal plane shutter, were good across nearly all shutter speeds because of the long light peak. BTW, Wikipedia informs me that the FP stands for flat peak - which makes sense. Interestingly coincidental that it's ideal for Focal Plane shutters (same two letters). -Charles -- Charles Robinson - charl...@visi.com Minneapolis, MN http://charles.robinsontwins.org http://www.facebook.com/charles.robinson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: 4x% Kodachromes from WWII
I always thought that with flashbulbs the bulb was fired prior to the
shutter to account for the delay between bulb firing and maximum bulb
output
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From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of John
Coyle
Sent: Tuesday, March 13, 2012 9:28 PM
To: 'Pentax-Discuss Mail List'
Subject: RE: 4x% Kodachromes from WWII
I started with blue flash-bulbs in 1967. They had a long burn time (1/40 to
1/60 second)
with a rapid climb to full output, then an even peak output followed by
rapid drop-off at
the end of the burn. The 'M' setting on the camera I was using at the time
(a Voigtlander
Vito CD) was what you used for these bulbs, although the camera also had an
'X' setting
for them new-fangled electronic flashes.
The settings ensured that the shutter opened first, then the flash fired.
The shutter
speed had to be set at 1/30 or slower, so that the flash output occurred
while the shutter
was fully open, otherwise you'd get a black bar at one side or the other,
where the film
was unexposed. Aperture was calculated from the guide number of the flash
and the speed
of the film, and I found I could seldom close down beyond f8, even at 400
ASA. The bulbs
were coated with a blue substance to match the colour temperature of noon
daylight, so
fill-in flash was possible.
There was a third shutter setting option, FP ('flash-peak'), which would
allow the use of
bulbs designed for focal-plane shutters, and these you could use at speeds
from 1/30th
upwards to 1/1000th, although I never had a camera with that facility until
I got a
Rolleicord, where you could use the 'V' setting to fire the flash at any
speed - basically
because the shutter was a between-lens type.
Open to correction on some of the technicalities, it's been a long time
since I had to
think about such matters!
John Coyle
Brisbane, Australia
-Original Message-
From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of
Steven Desjardins
Sent: Wednesday, 14 March 2012 3:32 AM
To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List
Subject: Re: 4x% Kodachromes from WWII
That's interesting, John. By the time I started doing serious photography,
electronic
flashes had taken over. I really don't know the characteristics of
flashbulbs.
On Tue, Mar 13, 2012 at 1:06 PM, John Sessoms jsessoms...@nc.rr.com wrote:
Flashbulbs
From: Bob Sullivan
Cool photos!
4x5 Kodachromes from the WWII era.
I wonder about the lighting set-up.
They are all well lit.
Wasn't it Kodachrome 14 or slower in those days?
The lighting is striking.
Regards, Bob S.
On Tue, Mar 13, 2012 at 8:22 AM, Bong Manayon bongmana...@gmail.com
wrote:
Wow. ?I showed them to my students who thought they were cos-players.
Bong
On Tue, Mar 13, 2012 at 10:04 AM, Steven Desjardins
drd1...@gmail.com
wrote:
A site I got form another forum:
http://pavel-kosenko.livejournal.com/303194.html?thread=22669914
Give them a minute to load. ?Well worth the look.
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Re: OT - Online critics
No, of course HCB is not beyond criticism. No one is. I recall when news of his death was announced on this list, several said that they just didn't get why he was considered such a great artist, he was little more than a common street photographer. Hey, to each his own. I think what is interesting in this critique is exactly that they weren't criticizing HCB (they didn't appear to know it was his) they were critiquing the photograph. I found it interesting that the most sanctimonious posters were those that criticized the breaking of rules. They wanted to look at what was wrong with the photo rather than look at it as a whole and just see that it worked - spectacularly well imho. I wonder if those same posters, had they known whose photo it was wouldn't have been fawning over it. ;-) If HCB followed all the rules he wouldn't have been who he was. Cheers, frank What can be asserted without proof can be dismissed without proof. -- Christopher Hitchens --- Original Message --- From: Daniel J. Matyola danmaty...@gmail.com Sent: March 14, 2012 3/14/12 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: OT - Online critics In a recent thread, many sharply criticized one of the most famous images of AA. Is HCB such a god that he is beyond criticism? Dan -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Pentax Forums in depth review of the K-01
On Tue, Mar 13, 2012 at 2:46 PM, Larry Colen l...@red4est.com wrote: http://www.pentaxforums.com/reviews/pentax-k-01-review/ AF mostly works That would be good for Frank, mostly.:-) Dave -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from i4est -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Documenting Life in Rural Ontario. www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ York Region, Ontario, Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT - Online critics
On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 11:47 AM, Charles Robinson charl...@visi.com wrote: The general attitude seems to be that it's a bland shot - if you don't consider who shot it. Which brings to mind this question: Just because it was shot by a specific known person, does that make it a better image? Personally, I don't think so. No, it's not a better image just because it's by someone famous. But sometimes I think that guys like AA and HCB have so many photographers following in their footsteps that their originals seem routine, or even cliched. So I think it can be helpful to take the historical context into account. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: I never enter photo contests BUT...
On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 10:15 AM, Jack Davis jdavi...@yahoo.com wrote: Worthy entry, Darren. I clicked on likes. Does that mean I voted for it? Thanks all, for the comments. I reloaded the page and the image has 11 views but no Likes. I believe you have to be logged-in (and thus HAVE a log-in [register]) for a Like to be registered. I wonder if more people aren't having difficulties - there are a suspiciously low number of likes on almost all the images. H. Storm photography is indeed a blast. To be in position to get the good stuff you have to chase, as in be willing to travel to find the good storms and then be in the proper position for either the cell or a particular feature of the cell (like a wall cloud or the funnel or tornado that it spawns). Since most storms are moving, that means attempting to move with them as they go through their cycles (both lifecycle from birth to death and their cycles of occlusion and growth). It helps to have an interest in weather/meteorology to understand how/where supercells will form and how they behave - which might be in the best position to have a longer life or more likely to be a tornado producer - if that is what you are seeking. Nobody wants to see a tornado be a threat to life or property, and fortunately the vast majority of them occur in open country (which we have a LOT of out here on the Plains). Those of you with Android or iPhones (or iPads) interested in weather would do well to purchase the RadarScope app. It not only brings NEXRAD Level 3 radar imagery in real time to your phone, but also shows your location (if in proximity to the storm) on GPS capable phones. Unbelievable technology for a mobile device for a pittance. Those of you interested in software with a similar capability for your desktop or laptop, checkout grlevelx.com . Darren Addy Kearney, Nebraska -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
re: Yellow Sunset Through Palm
Super framing and exposure of lovely scene. Message: 2 Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2012 16:22:45 -0400 From: Daniel J. Matyola danmaty...@gmail.com To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Yellow Sunset Through Palm Message-ID: caomwt1xnovk5gvpe35o1jujyeawah-hd+2u56dlm3hknxx6...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=15039260size=md Comments are invited. Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
PESO - Mid-winter by the Lake
Good picture for BW. Leads the eye well and wintery. Works for me. Message: 6 Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2012 19:35:23 -0500 From: frank theriault knarftheria...@gmail.com To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net Subject: PESO - Mid-winter by the Lake Message-ID: CALoSNQLjzyrT=ma4qn1gdcqugu9fohkaecaazi83itp1mep...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Taken maybe a month ago, when by mid-afternoon the sun was low in the sky: http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.com/2012/03/mid-winter-by-lake.html Hope you enjoy. Comments welcome. cheers, frank -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT - Online critics
Matthew Hunt wrote: On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 11:29 AM, Daniel J. Matyola danmaty...@gmail.com wrote: In a recent thread, many sharply criticized one of the most famous images of AA. Is HCB such a god that he is beyond criticism? I don't think that's really the issue here. Rather, I see two main points: (1) The commenters are oblivious to the fact that it's a famous photograph, showing a weakness in the commenters' understanding of the history of the art form they're critiquing. snip (2) Most of the complaints were about the technical quality, particularly sharpness. This illustrates a widespread belief, especially in this sort of Internet forum, that perfect technical quality is essential to a good photograph. snip Also: (3) That's an awesome photograph! -- Mark Roberts - Photography Multimedia www.robertstech.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: PESO: Snowdrop
Looks like the lens did its job. And the operator held his end as well. Seems like fine work to me. Message: 7 Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2012 20:51:57 -0400 From: Paul Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: PESO: Snowdrop Message-ID: b7f4f445-7257-4ba4-b4d8-a5623ccb7...@comcast.net Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii My annual snowdrop photo. They bloomed Sunday, but I just got around to shooting one today. K-5 with the Vivitar Seres 1 90/2.5 macro (first version), f11 @ 1/125, ISO 800. Love being able to push the ISO for macro shots with the K-5. Love the bokeh of that classic Vivitar lens as well. http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=15348632size=lg -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT: Interesting stitched image
One of the best concerts I've ever attended was in the early 2000's (2002?) with Joe Zawinul and his band of A-listers appearing at an outdoor venue in Toronto called the Harbourfront Centre Concert Stage. It wasn't Weather Report, but it *was*. :-) Sadly, I didn't pick up a camera until some years later. On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 11:22 AM, Doug Brewer d...@alphoto.com wrote: On 3/14/12 11:04 AM, Bruce Walker wrote: Whoa! Our local-contrast knobs go to 11. :-) Reminds me of the that 1977 Weather Report album cover. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heavy_Weather_(album) Jaco is a bass god. Off to Grooveshark, boys. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- -bmw -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Effluence
Well worth the effort too. I probably have some pics that would benifit from that treatment. Thanks. Message: 15 Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2012 22:03:09 -0400 From: Mark C pdml-m...@charter.net To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: PESO: Effluence Message-ID: 4f5ffc5d.2000...@charter.net Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed On 3/13/2012 2:49 PM, Don Guthrie wrote: Congratulations. I like the presentation. Are you really 2 years behind in your catalog? Thanks. Not really two years behind - in this case I could not get the right tonal adjustment in Photoshop. The original scan was way too dark in the center pool. I stumbled into the image this weekend and ran it through Photomatix - which resulted in a an image was a total mess. But that image, when blended as a layer over the original, fixed the problem with the tonality. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT - Online critics
On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 5:10 AM, David Savage ozsav...@gmail.com wrote: There is a flickr group called deleteme where images in the groups pool of photos is voted on to either be be retained of deleted. Someone decided to test members visual literacy photographic knowledge by submitting this photo (read the comments): http://www.flickr.com/photos/andrerabelo/70458366/ Also, if you haven't seen Mike Johnston's (fictitious) sends-up of this kind of critique, here they are: http://theonlinephotographer.blogspot.com/2006/06/great-photographers-on-internet.html http://theonlinephotographer.typepad.com/the_online_photographer/2009/11/great-photographers-on-the-internet-part-ii.html -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT - Online critics
On 3/14/2012 10:48 AM, Matthew Hunt wrote: On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 11:29 AM, Daniel J. Matyola danmaty...@gmail.com wrote: In a recent thread, many sharply criticized one of the most famous images of AA. Is HCB such a god that he is beyond criticism? I don't think that's really the issue here. Rather, I see two main points: (1) The commenters are oblivious to the fact that it's a famous photograph, showing a weakness in the commenters' understanding of the history of the art form they're critiquing. I see some merit to this argument, but, really, all of us have to decide where to focus our attention, and we all have strengths, weaknesses, and gaps in our knowledge. As a neophyte, this is something I can appreciate more than most on the list, I suppose. That's why I'm so hesitant to offer critiques on others' works and instead choose to learn from the critiques that others offer. A case in point: Mark's photo of the columns from a few days ago. My eye really wanted to see that image in a horizontal perspective. But, after looking at it again, I understood that it simply wouldn't have worked nearly as well that way -- perhaps for the very fact that it would have been a concession to the eye's natural inclination. (2) Most of the complaints were about the technical quality, particularly sharpness. This illustrates a widespread belief, especially in this sort of Internet forum, that perfect technical quality is essential to a good photograph. If that's someone's well-considered belief, fine, but it seems like a lot of people hold this belief without really thinking about it, or without appreciating how many of photography's past works would be rejected under it. Today I was engaged in a discussion about whether the Nikon D700 and D800 are suitable for making large prints (in the sense of Maybe the D800 is, but maybe not the D700.) My response was that if that kind of statement seems reasonable to you, you're saying there haven't been many adequate prints in the history of photography. It's a narrow technical view that, even I as a sensor and instrumentation geek, am getting weary of. I'm glad for the ever-increasing capabilities of our equipment, but at some point you need to just look at the picture! This phenomenon actually makes me revel in my blissful ignorance. Not having any preconceived notions of what a photo should look like when I take it, I tend to gravitate toward taking photos that look how I want them to look. Having a great deal of technical knowledge can obviously help to achieve that end, obviously. But, there's a certain freedom in not being burdened with the strictures of technical perfection. That's not to say I wouldn't love to have all the knowledge that the gearheads on the list have; it would certainly help me to cut back on the number of clunkers I shoot. But, for the time being, I find it extremely satisfying when my images come out the way I envisioned them when I hit the shutter button. And if that turns out to be pretty crappy, at least I'll know the problem is in my eye and not the camera -- which is a much less expensive problem to fix. -- Walt -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT - Online critics
Beautifully segmented composition. Jack From: Mark Roberts postmas...@robertstech.com To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2012 9:14 AM Subject: Re: OT - Online critics Matthew Hunt wrote: On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 11:29 AM, Daniel J. Matyola danmaty...@gmail.com wrote: In a recent thread, many sharply criticized one of the most famous images of AA. Is HCB such a god that he is beyond criticism? I don't think that's really the issue here. Rather, I see two main points: (1) The commenters are oblivious to the fact that it's a famous photograph, showing a weakness in the commenters' understanding of the history of the art form they're critiquing. snip (2) Most of the complaints were about the technical quality, particularly sharpness. This illustrates a widespread belief, especially in this sort of Internet forum, that perfect technical quality is essential to a good photograph. snip Also: (3) That's an awesome photograph! -- Mark Roberts - Photography Multimedia www.robertstech.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: OT: Ever wanted to see a Parcel Package Route Map
Yes the world is indeed flat. That is why I don't wonder off to far from home as I don't want to fall off the edge. -Original Message- From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Steven Desjardins Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2012 9:53 AM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: OT: Ever wanted to see a Parcel Package Route Map The world is flat. It's just that space-time is curved. On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 4:49 AM, David J Brooks pentko...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Mar 13, 2012 at 5:47 PM, Charles Robinson charl...@visi.com wrote: On Mar 13, 2012, at 10:33, Jeffery Johnson wrote: Yeah sometimes I can be a bit obsessive so I located the following site to track packages giving you a visual map: http://www.packagemapping.com/ Here's my brother's most-recent iPad (iPad 2, refurbished) purchase if you need a number to see how it looks: http://www.packagemapping.com/?action=trackshipper=upsmitracknum=49 7394749006uniqueID= Told ya the world was flat Dave -Charles -- Charles Robinson - charl...@visi.com Minneapolis, MN http://charles.robinsontwins.org http://www.facebook.com/charles.robinson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Documenting Life in Rural Ontario. www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ York Region, Ontario, Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Steve Desjardins -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1424 / Virus Database: 2113/4870 - Release Date: 03/14/12 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Lightroom 4 released
Ok, I did a little poking at it. Basically, with Process 2012 selected, if you click the Auto button in the Basic panel Exposure area on a photo which has more than 5-10% of the image area at or beyond the white saturation point, Lr4 will do its best to pull the exposure down so that the whites and highlights are below the saturation threshold. On any more average scene, it will render exposure that is quite close to on the mark. Tapping the J key in the Develop module will turn on the white and black saturation clipping indicators ... that will show you whether Auto is useful for that scene. G On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 7:50 AM, Charles Robinson charl...@visi.com wrote: On Mar 9, 2012, at 13:50, Tim Bray wrote: Just been using it for a couple days, but the new 2012 process, uh... makes my pictures look better. I've been struggling with one issue - sometimes I'll hit the auto button in the TONE box to get my exposure into the ballpark before fiddling. With LR3 it was always pretty darned close. With LR4 I get consistently at least a couple of stops too dark - like the only thing it's doing is throwing the entire exposure to the left to preserve the highlights. Anyone else see that when they hit that auto button? -Charles -- Charles Robinson - charl...@visi.com Minneapolis, MN http://charles.robinsontwins.org http://www.facebook.com/charles.robinson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Godfrey godfreydigiorgi.posterous.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: I never enter photo contests BUT
I did this one. Theme: Landscape. Most Likes wins. Should anyone care to register at the (relatively new) camera-enthusiast.com forum, then they can Like their favorite image. If it happens to be mine, I thank you, but there are many worthy images there (and not a lot of Likes on any of them so far). My entry is the previously well-liked PESO image I took of a Kansas Gust Front: http://www.flickr.com/photos/pixelsmithy/4722534814/in/photostream/ The gallery of contest entries is found here: http://www.camera-enthusiast.com/forums/useralbums/fuji-x10-giveaway-submissions.7/view (Mine is in the last row, Waay down there, as I type this). Darren Addy Kearney, Nebraska I like the storm shot Darren. Photo contest rant follows. There seems to be no good way to run a contest. Subjectivity always enters into the picture. However this kind of contest seems to have more problems than the kind in which a select set of judges passes judgement. A big complaint from posters in this contest is that images near the top of the list seem to acquire more votes. That's entirely logical, those voting are not required to look at every image before voting. Hence as interest wanes or time slips by the images lower on the list tend to get fewer votes, regardless of their merit. A recent monthly photo contest run by an insurance company here in Idaho had a similar format, except that anyone that registered on the site was eligible to vote. So it was not really a photo contest, it was a popularity contest. Those that could encourage or ask the most number of friends to vote would garner the most votes, regardless of image merit. How is that remotely fair? I wrote the company regarding the issue, and their response was that they designed it to be a popularity contest. So much for that. Tom C. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Boston Public Library
http://www.robertstech.com/pages/fotoblog/7da00222.htm I think I like this one. Not certain, but probably. I'm half worried that I overdid the processing but then I think reality is overrated anyway... -- Mark Roberts - Photography Multimedia www.robertstech.com I like it quite a bit Mark. Numerous hotels tend to purchase locally themed photography for decor, often though out the entire building. I could easily see this hanging in some 4 or 5 star hotel in downtown Boston. Tom C. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: I never enter photo contests BUT
I agree with your assessment, Tom. I think the point of most web site related contests is just to draw eyeballs or provide one more reason to come back, reload the page, whatever. In this case, it is also to spur more registrations for the privilege of entering or voting. No contest prize is given out of the goodness of any entities heart. It is being offered in exchange for something of greater value to the contest holder (advertising exposure, word-of-mouth, etc.) Darren Addy Kearney, Nebraska -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT - Online critics
On Mar 14, 2012, at 11:14, Mark Roberts wrote: Also: (3) That's an awesome photograph! Can someone explain to me what it is about that photo which they like? I don't mean to sound rude, but for me it's dull as dirty dishwater. Slice of life which is great if you have ever visited there or lived there and want to remember a feeling, but as a photograph in its own it leaves me bored. -Charles -- Charles Robinson - charl...@visi.com Minneapolis, MN http://charles.robinsontwins.org http://www.facebook.com/charles.robinson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Lightroom 4 released
On Mar 14, 2012, at 11:38, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: Ok, I did a little poking at it. Basically, with Process 2012 selected, if you click the Auto button in the Basic panel Exposure area on a photo which has more than 5-10% of the image area at or beyond the white saturation point, Lr4 will do its best to pull the exposure down so that the whites and highlights are below the saturation threshold. On any more average scene, it will render exposure that is quite close to on the mark. Tapping the J key in the Develop module will turn on the white and black saturation clipping indicators ... that will show you whether Auto is useful for that scene. My last batch of photos were taken on and around a frozen snow-covered lake. I guess that explains that. I'm sad to see this behavior, but I can adjust. Thanks for the analysis, Godfrey! -Charles -- Charles Robinson - charl...@visi.com Minneapolis, MN http://charles.robinsontwins.org http://www.facebook.com/charles.robinson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Lightroom 4 released
Here's a feature request then: Spot-Meter for the Auto. Like the WB eye-dropper. Is there a FR form? On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 12:38 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi gdigio...@gmail.com wrote: Ok, I did a little poking at it. Basically, with Process 2012 selected, if you click the Auto button in the Basic panel Exposure area on a photo which has more than 5-10% of the image area at or beyond the white saturation point, Lr4 will do its best to pull the exposure down so that the whites and highlights are below the saturation threshold. On any more average scene, it will render exposure that is quite close to on the mark. Tapping the J key in the Develop module will turn on the white and black saturation clipping indicators ... that will show you whether Auto is useful for that scene. G On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 7:50 AM, Charles Robinson charl...@visi.com wrote: On Mar 9, 2012, at 13:50, Tim Bray wrote: Just been using it for a couple days, but the new 2012 process, uh... makes my pictures look better. I've been struggling with one issue - sometimes I'll hit the auto button in the TONE box to get my exposure into the ballpark before fiddling. With LR3 it was always pretty darned close. With LR4 I get consistently at least a couple of stops too dark - like the only thing it's doing is throwing the entire exposure to the left to preserve the highlights. Anyone else see that when they hit that auto button? -Charles -- Charles Robinson - charl...@visi.com Minneapolis, MN http://charles.robinsontwins.org http://www.facebook.com/charles.robinson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Godfrey godfreydigiorgi.posterous.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- -bmw -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO -- The Tower IV
It's hard to tell in the web sized image but the little red thing is somebodies lost scarf. On 3/14/2012 10:13 AM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote: Nice perspective and effective use of the shadows. I like the little red thing. It is incongruous, and adds a bit of mystery and reality at the same time. Litter happens. Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 12:07 AM, P. J. Alling webstertwenty...@gmail.com wrote: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1604247/PESO/PESO%20--%20thetoweriv.html Equipment: Pentax K20D w/smc Pentax FA 20-35mm f4.0 As usual comments are welcome but may be totally ignored. -- Don't lose heart! They might want to cut it out, and they'll want to avoid a lengthily search. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Don't lose heart! They might want to cut it out, and they'll want to avoid a lengthily search. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO -- The Tower IV
Yes, well you simply must keep it in there. Makes the photo imho. That and wonderful composition and very good exposure/rendering. Love it! cheers, frank What can be asserted without proof can be dismissed without proof. -- Christopher Hitchens --- Original Message --- From: P. J. Alling webstertwenty...@gmail.com Sent: March 14, 2012 3/14/12 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: PESO -- The Tower IV It's hard to tell in the web sized image but the little red thing is somebodies lost scarf. On 3/14/2012 10:13 AM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote: Nice perspective and effective use of the shadows. I like the little red thing. It is incongruous, and adds a bit of mystery and reality at the same time. Litter happens. Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 12:07 AM, P. J. Alling webstertwenty...@gmail.com wrote: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1604247/PESO/PESO%20--%20thetoweriv.html Equipment: Pentax K20D w/smc Pentax FA 20-35mm f4.0 As usual comments are welcome but may be totally ignored. -- Don't lose heart! They might want to cut it out, and they'll want to avoid a lengthily search. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Don't lose heart! They might want to cut it out, and they'll want to avoid a lengthily search. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Lightroom 4 released
A while back I started setting the camera profile before doing anything else. It seemed to make a difference as to how auto rendered images. I don't know if that's true or if it is my imagination. Sometimes workflow is guided as much by superstition as by fact. gs George Sinos gsi...@gmail.com www.georgesphotos.net plus.georgesinos.com On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 12:11 PM, Charles Robinson charl...@visi.com wrote: On Mar 14, 2012, at 11:38, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: Ok, I did a little poking at it. Basically, with Process 2012 selected, if you click the Auto button in the Basic panel Exposure area on a photo which has more than 5-10% of the image area at or beyond the white saturation point, Lr4 will do its best to pull the exposure down so that the whites and highlights are below the saturation threshold. On any more average scene, it will render exposure that is quite close to on the mark. Tapping the J key in the Develop module will turn on the white and black saturation clipping indicators ... that will show you whether Auto is useful for that scene. My last batch of photos were taken on and around a frozen snow-covered lake. I guess that explains that. I'm sad to see this behavior, but I can adjust. Thanks for the analysis, Godfrey! -Charles -- Charles Robinson - charl...@visi.com Minneapolis, MN http://charles.robinsontwins.org http://www.facebook.com/charles.robinson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT: Happy Pi Day
But Pi is *wrong*: http://tauday.com/tau-manifesto On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 6:52 AM, Daniel J. Matyola danmaty...@gmail.com wrote: 3/14 is Pi Day! http://www.piday.org/ By happy coincidence, it is also Albert Einstein's Birthday. Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Snowdrop
On Mar 14, 2012, at 4:55 AM, John Sessoms wrote: Larry, I'm surprised that you of all people don't know the difference between a drop and a flake. The last set were fast on their way to being drops from being flakes. -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from i4est -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT: Happy Pi Day
On Mar 14, 2012, at 6:52 AM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote: 3/14 is Pi Day! http://www.piday.org/ By happy coincidence, it is also Albert Einstein's Birthday. And even happier coincidence, a good day to have steak. -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from i4est -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: 4x% Kodachromes from WWII
From: P. J. Alling
On 3/14/2012 8:32 AM, John Sessoms wrote:
From: John Coyle
I started with blue flash-bulbs in 1967. They had a long burn time
(1/40 to 1/60 second)
with a rapid climb to full output, then an even peak output followed
by rapid drop-off at
the end of the burn. The 'M' setting on the camera I was using at
the time (a Voigtlander
Vito CD) was what you used for these bulbs, although the camera also
had an 'X' setting
for them new-fangled electronic flashes.
The settings ensured that the shutter opened first, then the flash
fired. The shutter
speed had to be set at 1/30 or slower, so that the flash output
occurred while the shutter
was fully open, otherwise you'd get a black bar at one side or the
other, where the film
was unexposed. Aperture was calculated from the guide number of the
flash and the speed
of the film, and I found I could seldom close down beyond f8, even at
400 ASA. The bulbs
were coated with a blue substance to match the colour temperature of
noon daylight, so
fill-in flash was possible.
There was a third shutter setting option, FP ('flash-peak'), which
would allow the use of
bulbs designed for focal-plane shutters, and these you could use at
speeds from 1/30th
upwards to 1/1000th, although I never had a camera with that facility
until I got a
Rolleicord, where you could use the 'V' setting to fire the flash at
any speed - basically
because the shutter was a between-lens type.
Open to correction on some of the technicalities, it's been a long
time since I had to
think about such matters!
I think the M-sync fired the bulb first and then opened the shutter.
FP sync did that, the standard luminance chart for FP bulbs shows a
sharp spike which then trails off at a relatively constant light out put
for quite some time afterwords, I tried to find an image of that chart
but couldn't. Just imagine a chart of these arbitrary numbers
Flash fires -- 0 1 15 20 15 14 14 14 14 13 13 13 12 11 9 7 5 3 1 0
The shutter opens when the value drops to 15 to insure that the film is
relatively evenly exposed. That's what FP bulbs were all about.
M sync the shutter begins to open then the flash fires (on a leaf
shutter before the shutter is fully open, but on a focal plane shutter
after the shutter is fully open to capture as much of the light as
possible.
The chart for M bulbs is more like this
Flash fires - 0 1 15 20 15 10 5 3 2 1
http://camerapedia.wikia.com/wiki/Flash_sync
Some older cameras support M sync, which supports flash sync with (now
obsolete) medium-speed electric flash bulbs. Because flash bulbs take
some time to generate their maximum light output, M-sync is timed to
fire the flash slightly earlier, then opening the shutter so as to
coincide with that peak output.
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Re: PESO -- The Tower IV
From: Bob Sullivan Yes, Better with the red thing than without... Regards, Bob S. Better red than dead ?? 8-D On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 9:13 AM, Daniel J. Matyola danmaty...@gmail.com wrote: Nice perspective and effective use of the shadows. ?I like the little red thing. ?It is incongruous, and adds a bit of mystery and reality at the same time. ?Litter happens. Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 12:07 AM, P. J. Alling webstertwenty...@gmail.com wrote: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1604247/PESO/PESO%20--%20thetoweriv.html Equipment: Pentax K20D w/smc Pentax FA 20-35mm f4.0 As usual comments are welcome but may be totally ignored. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Lightroom 4 released
On Mar 14, 2012, at 7:50 AM, Charles Robinson wrote: On Mar 9, 2012, at 13:50, Tim Bray wrote: Just been using it for a couple days, but the new 2012 process, uh... makes my pictures look better. I've been struggling with one issue - sometimes I'll hit the auto button in the TONE box to get my exposure into the ballpark before fiddling. With LR3 it was always pretty darned close. With LR4 I get consistently at least a couple of stops too dark - like the only thing it's doing is throwing the entire exposure to the left to preserve the highlights. Anyone else see that when they hit that auto button? I'm still on LR3, but the behavior that I consistently get is that when I hit auto, it'll crank the brightness too high, and I'll have to drop the brightness to make things more reasonable. -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from i4est -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT - Online critics
On Mar 14, 2012, at 8:48 AM, Matthew Hunt wrote: I'm glad for the ever-increasing capabilities of our equipment, but at some point you need to just look at the picture! Mark! -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from i4est -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT - Online critics
On Mar 14, 2012, at 10:09 AM, Charles Robinson wrote: On Mar 14, 2012, at 11:14, Mark Roberts wrote: Also: (3) That's an awesome photograph! Can someone explain to me what it is about that photo which they like? I don't mean to sound rude, but for me it's dull as dirty dishwater. Slice of life which is great if you have ever visited there or lived there and want to remember a feeling, but as a photograph in its own it leaves me bored. I like it, can't say as I love it though. There is something about the composition that draws my eye around in a pleasing way. For me the things that make it pleasing have almost nothing to do with the subject matter, or the technical prowess of the photo. As an aside, at one point I wanted to design an experiment where you would measure the movements of peoples eyes as they looked at a picture, and do an analysis of the movements in the frequency domain, to see if visually pleasing shapes worked off movements with similar sorts of harmonic relationships as pleasing combinations of notes. -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from i4est -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT - Online critics
From: Steven Desjardins These kind of tests also reveal something of the nature of famous photos. A lot of folks don't like Picasso either. On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 5:10 AM, David Savage ozsav...@gmail.com wrote: So I came across this via FB today... There is a flickr group called deleteme where images in the groups pool of photos is voted on to either be be retained of deleted. Someone decided to test members visual literacy photographic knowledge by submitting this photo (read the comments): http://www.flickr.com/photos/andrerabelo/70458366/ Cheers, It bothers me that the main argument against deleting it is who the photographer was, and not the image itself. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: OT: Interesting stitched image
From: Daniel J. Matyola I thought this was an interesting image: http://i.imgur.com/wy1r4.jpg It is said to have been stitched from 11 shots. I don't know who took it; the only information I have is from the website where I found the image: http://www.bspcn.com/2012/03/13/this-is-a-11-shot-image-stitched-together-to-make-one-image/ Dan Matyola It is interesting, but a bit heavy handed with HDR for my taste. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Lightroom 4 released
Larry, You seem to shoot a lot in dark situations. Any auto mode is going to try to get the scene average up to near 18% gray, modulo trying to prevent highlight clipping. Bruce, An auto setting mode based on a selected sample area (of adjustable size) would be cool. There's a Lightroom forum on the Adobe site somewhere ... I have the address at home, not here. That would be a good feature request. In practice, I almost never use the auto mode at all. Most of the time, I can rough in adjustment for most of an entire session with two/three clicks in the Quick Develop panel before I even open a single image in the Develop module. I only click auto now and then, normally, to see what LR thinks of my exposures. Most of the time it doesn't change the photo enough to even notice what it did without looking at the sliders. On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 11:28 AM, Larry Colen l...@red4est.com wrote: On Mar 14, 2012, at 7:50 AM, Charles Robinson wrote: On Mar 9, 2012, at 13:50, Tim Bray wrote: Just been using it for a couple days, but the new 2012 process, uh... makes my pictures look better. I've been struggling with one issue - sometimes I'll hit the auto button in the TONE box to get my exposure into the ballpark before fiddling. With LR3 it was always pretty darned close. With LR4 I get consistently at least a couple of stops too dark - like the only thing it's doing is throwing the entire exposure to the left to preserve the highlights. Anyone else see that when they hit that auto button? I'm still on LR3, but the behavior that I consistently get is that when I hit auto, it'll crank the brightness too high, and I'll have to drop the brightness to make things more reasonable. -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from i4est -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Godfrey godfreydigiorgi.posterous.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT - Online critics
From: Daniel J. Matyola In a recent thread, many sharply criticized one of the most famous images of AA. Is HCB such a god that he is beyond criticism? Dan Apparently. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT: Interesting stitched image
Agreed. Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 2:43 PM, John Sessoms jsessoms...@nc.rr.com wrote: From: Daniel J. Matyola I thought this was an interesting image: http://i.imgur.com/wy1r4.jpg It is said to have been stitched from 11 shots. I don't know who took it; the only information I have is from the website where I found the image: http://www.bspcn.com/2012/03/13/this-is-a-11-shot-image-stitched-together-to-make-one-image/ Dan Matyola It is interesting, but a bit heavy handed with HDR for my taste. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
