RE: The Robb-Cakalic Expedition Book 1

Tom C wrote: > Some things you may not know about William: Quite made my evening that has! Night night all. Malcolm

RE: Pentax £100,000 giveaway. Not SPAM....

mike.wilson wrote: > Can anyone spot in the page a question that asks you > precisiely what you bought? You are given five generic > options on the previous page. This seems to alter only > questions 7 & 9. > > http://comserv.prodregister.com/pentax/tfe01.shtml I note it goes into a secure

Re: Interesting reading

William Robb wrote: > What I find amazing is that all these well educated multi degree'd > people end up working minumum wage jobs when if they had chosen more > wisely they could be making $25.00/hr. or more working in a trade, > with less stress. > > I have several co-workers in my store with 2

OT: BBC Programme 'Countryfile'.

Just watched this programme where they were judging pictures for a calendar sent in by the viewers on various nature themes. They showed a slide sent in depicting a larvae on a twig, with a long Latin name, which looked just like a bit of red striped toothpaste. Which is exactly what it turned out

RE: PAW PESO - Spare some sex?

Shel Belinkoff wrote: > You know, I've been lambasted here many times for presenting > such photos, and have always wondered about how it is that so > many people here fall all over themselves when it comes to > complimenting sunsets and waterfalls and insects of pretty > colors and odd shaped

The power of photography, was: PAW PESO - Spare some sex?

Shel Belinkoff wrote: > If one were to look at all the photos I've posted here you'd > see a broad range of subjects, many light hearted and perhaps > funny (to me, anyway). > The homeless photos are decidedly in a minority. What is > interesting, however, is that so many remember only the >

RE: The power of photography, was: PAW PESO - Spare some sex?

Bob W wrote: > it's a bit of a stretch to generalise from discussion about > one particular photograph to the whole subject of > professional photojournalism. Guilty as charged Bob, but with as many posts as the PDML gets per day, there are too many specifics to hit. Treat it as an observation.

RE: The power of photography, was: PAW PESO - Spare some sex?

Collin Brendemuehl wrote: > In this venue, film will provide that durable history. > Because negatives endure. > Take lots of pictures. Record everything and everyone. > And document it. Journal it. > Peserve it. Creative Memories-it. > Make it an important part of life. > Because it is. More

RE: The power of photography, was: PAW PESO - Spare some sex?

Shel Belinkoff wrote: > Auggie Wren's Christmas Story > By Paul Auster Ah yes! Thanks for reminding me of this Shel, I am sure I have your full posting on a Zip disc. Malcolm

RE: The power of photography, was: PAW PESO - Spare some sex?

Bob W wrote: Hi Bob, Comments interspaced: > > There is one thing I have wanted to do for a while, which I > read in a > > photographic magazine (but it takes a lot of doing). In the > magazine > > example, it was a tree in a field, > > I know of a similar series - perhaps the same one. It

RE: The power of photography, was: PAW PESO - Spare some sex?

Jostein wrote: Hi Jostein, Comments interspaced: > > Considering we are bombarded every day by images from television, > computer > > screens, papers and magazines and advertising hoardings, it's > amazing we > > have the capacity to be stopped in our tracks from time to > time by a > > partic

RE: *ist D discontinued ?

Christian wrote: > Point taken that DSLRs are "disposable" And no I don't > expect to be using > my current DSLR in 30 to 40 years. I expect to be using > whatever is mostly > current at that time. Well, you have to laugh. Do you all remember the excitement not that long ago about the introdu

RE: *ist D discontinued ?

Graywolf wrote: > Now just what does it take to equal the Anti-Digital > Intentional Photography Camera*? > > *My Crown Graphic 45, for those who don't know. I added the > "Intentional Photography" (from another thread) because it > does one shot at a time . Kodak Holosuite Plus. So good, you

RE: RE: *ist D discontinued ?

mike wilson wrote: > Not necessarily. On the route of this plethora of "upgrades" > the company finds that it has to relocate its manufacturing > (which it has already removed most of the human element from) > to outer Mongolia or some other place where labour is cheap > and unprotected, in o

RE: Cheap (?) Photoshop CS2 upgrade

William Robb wrote: > Either pay full price or steal the product? > Surely there must be other acceptable options. World politics perfectly described in two lines. M

RE: PAW: Biker Bob, R.I.P.

Steve Desjardins wrote: > We talk a lot about the art and process and digital and film, etc. I > still think the greatest impact of photography is that it can > extend a moment in time for us fragile and mortal beings. > Nice shot and story. I very strongly agree with that; it's the images w

RE: Re: Paw: The scent of early summer

mike wilson wrote: > On an industrial estate in town (east coast of England) next > to the sea, is a tripe factory. Luckily, the prevailing > winds are westerly. When they change, business drops off in > the town centre. We used to have a brewery on the west side > of town. Boiling hops is

RE: Re: Paw: The scent of early summer

mike wilson wrote: > > Any chance of sending some rain down south? > Would sir like the three inches in two hours storm (a la > Sunday evening) or the full monsoon? Hmm! Tricky one. I'd rather like to gradually phase a monsoon in, with an option on a big storm. Might be able to take some pict

RE: Re: Paw: The scent of early summer

mike wilson wrote: > You must be living in a different country to me. Are you on > chalk? We have a clay substrate here and it takes much > longer for the rainwater to disperse, if it's not causing > flash floods. I can guide this back on topic to photography at this point, because in the la

RE: Your Favorite Pentax Camera

Shel Belinkoff wrote: > So, what's your favorite Pentax - even if it's one that you > don't use or use very much. LX. Malcolm

RE: Your Favorite Pentax Camera

Shel Belinkoff wrote: > I was thinking about this little "survey" earlier, and how > few of the replies indicated that the digital cameras were > their favorites. I've not counted replies and made any > effort to organize or tally the results, but, just from > reading, it seems, even amongst

RE: Time to apply for press passes

mike wilson wrote: > Olympic games in London 2012. > > OPDML, anyone? Time to move :-( Malcolm

RE: RE: Time to apply for press passes

mike wilson wrote: > > > Olympic games in London 2012. > > > > > > OPDML, anyone? > > > > Time to move :-( > > > > Malcolm > > I think the virus spreads as far as Manchester. It's good for sport here, right now. For the future? What concerns me is that resources will not be used well. There

RE: RE: Time to apply for press passes

frank theriault wrote: > I think that the rest of the world learned from Montreal '76. > I doubt that debacle will ever be repeated. In fact, IIRC, > the Olympic Commitee now makes sure that a proper funding > plan will be in place for each bid, to avoid such problems. I hope you're right, b

RE: Time to apply for press passes

Steve Jolly wrote: > IIRC they're building one enormous athletics stadium that > will stay after the event, but many of the other events will > be re-using existing facilities (eg Wimbledon, Wembley, > Lords, the Dome) or held in stadia that will be dismantled > afterwards and shipped off to d

RE: Survey:istD reliability

Dave Brooks wrote: > One last question,i hope, foilks.:-) > > Of the folks on this list, or friends of folks on this list: > 1- How many have bought the camera and had to return it soon > after with a malfunction ie: > backfocus > problems,battery probl

RE: Pentax lens screw sizes, help please

Bob W wrote: > not all of Europe. Here in the UK people of my generation and > older are like some kind of measuring-system axolotls, stuck > forever in a transitional phase. We accept post weight in grams, but still buy (or at least ask) for meat by the pound or fraction thereof. We buy petrol

RE: OT: What did you get for Christmas?

Lots of photo opportunities. Malcolm

RE: PAW - Memorial for Janie

frank theriault wrote: > Toronto is still a pretty safe place. There were 78 murders in 2005. > For a city of some 2.5 million people, that's low by any standard. > That number is a bit higher than average, but not shockingly > so; indeed, it's not the record. > > The problem is that 52 of th

RE: February PUG is open a bit early

Adelheid wrote: > the February PUG is open. > > It can be found at http://pug.komkon.org Very good entries indeed! My personal favourites; Fallen Posts; Geometric Landscape & Silver Stars. Malcolm

RE: GFM Nature Photography Weekend registration is open

frank theriault wrote: > You remember how hard it was getting back ~into~ Canada last year? > Security? What security? Have you got a passport at last, or are you going UPS? Malcolm

RE: Spherical K15mm 3.5 shots...

Cotty wrote: > Lovely house - and well done to the family in doing so much 'conversion of packing to home' in so little time! Malcolm

RE: Tokina Doubler

Don Williams wrote: > Zen would say: "If you don't use them is there any difference > to the quality." I think Zen ought to say if he's a Pentax user first. Malcolm

RE: PAW - En Masse

frank theriault wrote: > http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=4107177&size=lg Too damn realistic, as it reminded me of all the horrors of commuting, which I no longer (fortunately) do. Malcolm

RE: Looks like GFM has sold out

Ann Sanfedele wrote: > Frank better remember his bunny ears -- otherwise he'd just > fade into the background Passport photo? Tell me you didn't Frank Malcolm

RE: Looks like GFM has sold out

frank theriault wrote: > > Passport photo? Tell me you didn't Frank > > > > http://photo.net/shared/portrait-bits.tcl?user_id=492668 LOL! Malcolm

RE: OT - GFM blows hard

frank theriault wrote: > On 1/29/06, William Robb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > Boone, N.C., and in good health, I believe Other interests > have taken > > him away from us for the time being. > > What? You mean there's a universe outside of PDML? And it's often very difficult to foll

RE: Interesting marketing

John Francis wrote: > I'm going to pay another visit to the dealership, and let the > sales manager know: > > 1) How much I appreciate their low-pressure showroom staff > > 2) Just how much I dislike having some arrogant little twit > telling me I don't know what I want, and to instead

RE: OT - PESO - Farm and Copse

mike wilson wrote: > >> The sky is beautifully captured. > > Ever so slightly better indeed. > > > > Now, kind sir, would you please explain what Copse means? > > Similar, but not exactly the same as, spinney. 8-))) > > Small gro

RE: OT - PESO - Farm and Copse

mike wilson wrote: > >>>Now, kind sir, would you please explain what Copse means? > >> > >>Similar, but not exactly the same as, spinney. 8-))) > >> > >>Small group of trees. > > > > > > Copse in London translates as 'Luxury development of flats > or houses > > available shortly'. > > > > Ma

RE: OT - PESO - Farm and Copse

mike wilson wrote: > > Hey! I live in a floodplain! > > > > This is brought home to me quite regularly when I walk > along the side > > of the river when there's a very high tide lapping over the berm - > > which is at the height of the 1st floor windows of the > nearest houses... > > > > I

RE: SMC DA 12-24/4 - request for RAW files

Boris Liberman wrote: > Gentlemen, just to make sure you realise - pisat' in Russian > (and probably Polish) has two meanings: to write and to urinate. Well, it is cold there - writing in the snow? Malcolm

RE: Writing in the snow -- was SMC DA 12-24 etc.

Don Williams wrote: > That's a 'rural legend'. It doesn't happen. > Not at -48C anyway which is the coldest its been here since > we came to Finland. Other much more uncomfortable things > happen to anatomy casually or promiscuously exposed in very > cold weather. Its a good idea not to do any

RE: List burps

Bob W wrote: > Hmm. Looks to me like the list is throwing up some old posts > from a few days ago. Either that or the Big Crunch has > started and we can all read the bits of the religion thread > we missed first time around... This happens to me at least once a month and it makes things at ti

RE: Religon, Christ vs. the Other Guy

Graywolf wrote: > Did anyone miss me? Course we did - haven't you a regular message to post regarding PDML rules? :-) Malcolm

RE: Question: Should I buy an ist D?

Jens Bladt wrote: > But if I was starting from scratch, I'm quite certain I'd go > elsewhere. > A lot of photographers do, you know. PDML = Pentax Defection Mailing List. A lot of people shifted both before AND after the launch of the *ist D. I didn't regret buying mine then or now - it does wh

RE: what's the name of the new Pentax 10MP camera?

Michel Carrère-Gée wrote: > A new name ? > No more *ist ? > "newname" D ? *ist D'oh! Malcolm

RE: PESO - Dawn's Early Light

Tom C wrote: http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=4181984&size=lg http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=4181617&size=lg Mental note to self: don't look at these links and then look out of own window. Malcolm

RE: How to behave at eBay

Tim Øsleby wrote: > I want to bid at a shipment only in US item. I have sent the > buyer a message asking if he can send it to Europe despite > what he has sayd. I have also suggested a send to a US > citizen and he will ship it on to me solution. No reply so far. > If I bid, despite this, wil

RE: PESO: Another Tweet for Taylor

mike wilson wrote: > Have you ever tried a rifle stock/photosniper type of setup? > They work very well but there are possible dangers involved > with their useage these days. **possible**? Walk around a city with that to enter a whole world of misery. Malcolm

RE: which camera to buy?

William Robb wrote: > I recall calling the istD a crippled whore. Funny how they never ran with that slogan on huge billboards (might have won some bizarre awards for advertising photography) ... Malcolm

RE: Peso: Saskatchewan Lingerie

William Robb wrote: > http://users.accesscomm.ca/wrobb/pictures/peso/IMGP0308.html That's fantastic :-) Great capture! Malcolm

RE: PESO - Morning coffee

Tim Øsleby wrote: >95% of serial killers ate bread at least once a week. 75% of serial >killers ate bread daily. Disturbing new study! Eating bread increases >the likelihood that your children will grow up to be serial killers! So today's cereal killers are tomorrows serial killers? Malcolm

RE: Tel Aviv

Boris Liberman wrote: > http://not.contaxg.com/document.php?id=12495 Love it. I can imagine this on my wall. Malcolm

RE: Our tree

wendy beard wrote: > http://www.pbase.com/image/55816027 > > It's ours since Tuesday. Along with the land behind it as far > as the farm. > Look out for interesting (or not) updates in a couple of > months as we start our building project. > I'll try and use the DS for all the documentation sho

RE: How do you select your camera for the day? was: OT: Non-Pentax eBay Auction Question

Easy: *ist D - everyday shots, pictures for e-mail, grab shots MX - B&W LX - Colour slides 67 - Resulting from a picture taken by any of the above that would benefit from more time and a bigger format. Malcolm

RE: Bailing out.

Bob Shell wrote: > Art is art. How you create it is irrelevant. Tracey Emin? Malcolm

RE: Bailing out.

Bob Shell wrote: > >> Art is art. How you create it is irrelevant. > > > > Tracey Emin? > > > Not sure the relevance. Ms. Emin has created many controversial creations and when questioned usually falls back to this statement. It is of course valid, as so many view art in different ways/styles/

RE: OT - Appointment Calendar

Shel Belinkoff wrote: > I need - and prefer not to have - bells and whistles like > reminder chimes, pop-ups, panting puppy dogs with wagging tails, etc. The obvious answer is to get married - job sorted. Failing that, more seriously, I've always relied on a paper version: A5 page to a diary. N

RE: OT - Appointment Calendar

Shel Belinkoff wrote: > If a paper diary were acceptable I'd not have asked for an > appointment calendar for the computer. Nice to know it works > for you though. Just think of it as practice for when you go into a shop to buy what you want. You know the salesperson will direct you to somethi

April 2006 PUG.

Another brilliant showing but I do have three equal favourites: Missing the show - Dan Matyola Jumble of floats - Harald Rust It's cleaning time - Boris Liberman Thanks for cheering my day up! Malcolm

RE: First success

Boris Liberman wrote: > I submitted this work: > > http://www.penta-club.ru/forum/index.php?showtopic=6267 Fantastic photograph again! Malcolm

RE: to n9ybx & Dayton

Collin wrote: > Any other Hams coming? > I'll be there on Sat. for certain. One I'd love to do - especially to get some more microwave equipment. One year...and a big suitcase.. Malcolm

RE: PESO - By the Tyne

Jostein wrote: > http://www.oksne.net/paw/20060403-0139.html Beautiful. Malcolm

RE: Rebate Offer Scumbags

David Savage wrote: > I am not a big fan of the rebate concept. IMO, it would be > much easier if the store just reduced the price by the > "rebate" amount & then claim the difference from the > manufacturer / wholesaler. > > But I'm no retailing expert. And Bob Shell wrote: >I think a lot o

RE: Rebate Offer Scumbags

Aaron Reynolds wrote: > > I would much rather the store reduced the price > > Thing is, if Pentax reduced the cost to the retailer by $100, > the retailer would say "hrm, is anyone else going to reduce > the price? Why don't I just offer $20 off?" That, or > they'll buy triple what they norm

RE: OT: Anyone got an olive?

Bob W wrote: > Don't worry, doc. It's over 8,000 light years away - I'm not > planning to go there and drink any of it. > > The olive would have gone off. Assuming you could persuade NASA to blast you off there with your olive, how long would it take? Malcolm

RE: Re: OT: Anyone got an olive?

mike wilson wrote: > It's the olives. He's not used to fresh vegetables. Anyway, it's too far to go for a drink :-) One light year is 5900 billion miles (ish). Multiply that x 8000 and you'll want more than a drink with an olive in it when you get there. Anyone care to work out how long it would

RE: PESO Durham cormorant

Jostein wrote: > http://www.oksne.net/paw/DurhamCormorant.html I like it. There's an under-wing deodorant advert in there too :-) Malcolm

RE: OT: Anyone got an olive?

Bob W wrote: > There is a far easier way to get there: > > 1.Buy a bottle of tequila. > > 2.Remove the worm. > That leaves a worm hole in the tequila. > > 3.Drink the tequila. > You will fall through the worm hole. LOL! One tequila, two tequila, three tequila, floo

Columbia.

25 years ago today, the first space shuttle Columbia took off. I like millions of others around the world watched the televised broadcast - did anyone here actually see it live and take photographs? Feel old now :-( Malcolm

RE: Columbia.

David Savage wrote: > 25 years ago I was 3. I was 3 once; just it wasn't 25 years ago. So whilst some of us watched the big bird, you watched 'Big Bird' ;-) Malcolm

RE: Columbia.

Bob Shell wrote: > Funny, but I worked for Shutterbug magazine for almost 30 years. > Shutterbug's offices are in Titusville, FL, and just happen > to be right across the Indian River from the shuttle launch > site. The river bank behind our offices was just about the > closest you could ge

RE: GESO - Foggy Morning

Tom C wrote: > Foggy Ridge (from home) > > http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=4327774&size=lg I could imagine this as a billboard size picture, as the backdrop for a film advert. Nice. > Forest 5 > > http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=4327828 My favourite. The light works re

RE: PESO - Bitch in the Beaches

frank theriault wrote: > http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=4312076&size=lg It's certainly different! Is it a hamster with a full body kit added? Malcolm

RE: [OT] PESO: Alien spaceship

Ralf R. Radermacher wrote: > http://www.photosight.ru/photo.php?photoid=1375550 That's amazing - looks almost hand painted as well. Malcolm

RE: Outdated Kodachrome 64 slide film any good?

Markus Maurer wrote: > I have the opportunity to get some Kodakchrome 64 slide film > dated 2003 including development and framing and postage for > around 2 dollars a 36 exposure roll. No doubt this has been answered already, but I'm getting little PDML post in today. I asked this question he

RE: Fatherly question

Bruce Dayton wrote: > I would strongly recommend that for younger children you get > a digital camera that can display the image on the camera > after. My younger ones don't usually even care what happens > to the image later on, but are keenly interested right at the > time of shooting. I t

RE: PESO - Contemplation

Cotty wrote: > > > Boris, > > Seeing as I was about the only one here that liked this pic, > I'll just say again what a good shot it is. Due to the bizarre way my e-mail is arriving I've only just seen it. Actually, I think Boris is on cracking

RE: Happy Easter

Shel Belinkoff wrote: > http://home.earthlink.net/~shel-pix/easterbunnies.jpg Yum! Happy Easter! Malcolm

RE: PESO: Easter Beast

Paul Stenquist wrote: > http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=4344470&size=lg Gosh! Soon be summer - nice capture. Malcolm

RE: PESO - huntsman

David Nelson wrote: > http://davidavid.whatsbeef.net/huntsman.jpg This is what 2000mm lenses were designed for - and that's closer than I'd want to be to take this shot. Scary photograph. Malcolm

RE: PESO: Obelisk Path.

Paul Stenquist wrote: > This is a little too large to view on my 1680 x 1050 screen. > It's an interesting look at an attractive area, but it > doesn't really grab me. > It looks a bit soft, almost like an unsharpened digital. It > might also benefit from more saturation and contrast. > > htt

RE: Amusing blog

Bob W wrote: > I stumbled upon this blog while googling*. > *3 or 4 years ago that sentence would have been gibberish. Or overheard in a pub in a farming community? Malcolm

RE: How Pentax Could Survive

William Robb wrote: > > I don't think birds have a scrotum sack. > > There may be a few transexuals that haven't had the big > operation yet Now I thought you had just invested in quality tools and gained experience in chopping bits off. Could be some money to be made here... Malcolm

RE: Pentax Future? What's next for Pentax...

Graywolf wrote: > Well, I guess I can post a copy of a comment I made to Annsan, > > --quote--- > Ah yes, digital saves money. Let's see, I bougtht the used > Olympus C-5050Z for $200. I imediately started making 8.5x11 > prints. The printer went belly up so I had to buy a new one

RE: ist D Battery Grip

Doug Franklin wrote: > Just for giggles, how many *ist D users out there are using > the battery grip for it? I've got the MZ-S and its grip, and > the grip is really handy, both for the AA batteries and the > vertical grip. Is the grip for the *ist D as helpful and useful? Yes, it's the sma

RE: Starring Knarf

Dario Bonazza wrote: > You can also get a "purist" version: > http://www.dariobonazza.com/provv/blurbw.jpg LOL! Malcolm

RE: matching shoulders

frank theriault typed with one hand: > well, today started with a bang! Nasty, glad to hear you wore a helmet and I wish you a speedy recovery. The relevance of a missing bell is lost on me, particularly when in traffic in a city, drivers with radios on etc would be hard pressed to hear it, when

RE: matching shoulders

Keith whaley wrote: > Part of Frank's settlement ought to be to have that obviously > biased traffic cop reassigned to the garbage truck detail... > > Speaking of helmets, our local motorcycle shop has about 8 > "used" helmets hung up above their accessories counter, > showing how much abrasio

RE: BAD NEWS: Pentax +Samsung DSLRs

John Forbes wrote: > Ach, that's nowt. My Quad 303 amp, purchased in Jamaica in > 1976, still gives excellent service, though I did have the > capacitors changed nine years ago. I'll change them again in 2016. > > I'm sorry I don't still have the electrostatic speakers. In a world where only

RE: broke my istD

Skye wrote: > I took it on a one-week trip to costa rica and it stopped > working (or > > displayed erratic behaviour) for about half a day while I > was there, > > and finally started up again. I just kept taking the > batteries out and > > letting it sit for a couple of hours, and putting

RE: BAD NEWS: Pentax +Samsung DSLRs

Cotty wrote: > >and a > >receiver that still works perfectly and is very sensitive that was > >built in the middle part of WW2. > > Cool! Can you still hear 'Listen With Mother' on it? LOL! It's put away in storage at the moment as with growing children, space is at a premium and it needs a stu

RE: More Texas Photo Issues

Bob Shell wrote: > My feeling is that I should be able to photograph anything I > can see from a public place without concealing the fact that > I am making photographs. So long as I am not trespassing on > private property or hiding what I am doing from the subject > of said photographs, no

Lens length; was More Texas Photo Issues

William Robb wrote: > Wasn't it mentioned a while back about some rule at a > concert, something > about no lenses physically longer than a couple of inches? > I recall it as being an absurd way to measure the > appropriateness of a lens. Bob S. made the observation of a 4 inch limit, so the d

RE: Lens length

William Robb wrote: > Case or excuse, one or tother. > To be fair if the venue is privately owned, the venue owner > can prtty much > make up whatever rules he wants regarding this, and the > ticket buyer can > accept or go home. Indeed they can, but it isn't just venues such as this that are

RE: I'm back & 5D news

Amita Guha wrote: > Then it's a good thing I'm sticking with Pentax. :) Is that > the kind of thing you guys were discussing while I was gone? :) There was a brief exchange on camera engineering you missed. Really needs to be read from start to finish though. Apparently. Shel has entered the di

BMWs; was Self Portrait?

Paul Stenquist wrote: > True enough of the classic Bimmers. Contemporary BMWs with > stability control and traction control do fine. That's pretty > much true of any rear driver. Without an extremely talented > driver or an equally talented computer, they can be a handful > in the rain. That b

RE: BMWs; was Self Portrait?

Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: > Those are very old sedans now, most have succumbed to rust > and mileage. BMW sold both the 2500 and 2800 in the US, about > 30 years ago. At some point, about 1972 or so, the US > distributor came up with a 2800 series sedan package and > named the the BMW Bavaria. I

RE: PESO - Fallen Leaf

Shel Belinkoff wrote: > IKEA means something to me. I know it's a furniture and more store. > There's one about 10 miles from my house. It was the > reference to the IKEA ~poster~ that I didn't understand. > I've never been inside an IKEA store, never seen their wares, > and certainly am u

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